Why Do Liberal/Progressives Seek To Impose Their Views On Others?

[EricJ]

Why do right-wing idiots post straw men in online forums?

 

[bripat9643]

The usual complaint from libs about conservatives is that they seek to impose their views. Like everything else this is true, but only about libs. Consider gay marriage. Many states voted to amend their constitutions or enact other legislation that defined marriage as one man one woman. Libs werent successful making their case to the public (it was a loser issue at the pols) so they whined to some activist judges, who imposed gay marriage over the will of the people.

Oh, Rabbid, the thing is, we have a constitution that gives rights to individuals. If a majority of a state voted to confiscate your guns, you'd be pointing at the Second Amendment and saying, "See, see...this give me a right to my gun">

"Really, are you in a well-regulated militia?"

Or consider the Oregon bakers, whose business has been destroyed by lesbians offended that they wouldnt bake their wedding cake. And the bakers arent bigots, as often assumed. The lesbians picked the place because they were frequent customers there.

Isn't an argument there. Public Accommodation Laws say they have to serve any customers who have the money for services they offer. This has been black letter law for 50 years.

Or look at the demonization of smoking and smokers, who are considered one step above child molester in the media.

Why is this a partisan issue? Most conservatives don't want to try to eat their dinner in a room full of cigarette smoke, either. You do realize that smoking is bad for you, right? Now, I think a lot of the science on second hand smoke is dubious. But most folks have no problem with smoke-free workplaces. Maybe you need to talk to your big corporations, they were for it before the government was.

Or Common Core, which seeks to impose a national standard on what has traditionally been a local issue.

and why is this a bad thing? Are you saying that a HS Diploma from Florida should be worth less than one from Illinois? The USA drags behind every other industrialized nation in math and science. All those countries have national standards.

Public accommodation laws only refer to race, religion and national origin. They don't mention sexual orientation.

 

[NYcarbineer]

32,000 gun deaths and 78,000 gun injuries every year. It would be nice if you guys kept the carnage to yourselves, but the rest of us end up paying for it. It is estimated gun violence costs this country 300 billion a year. so, yeah, we should have a say about who gets a gun, and just because some Slave Rapists couldn't properly word a Militia Amendment, is not a good reason for the insanity.

Queers swap around more stds than anyone else. You support that. It cost us all, so go fuck off.

What's the STD transmission rate of same sex married couples?

Don't know, don't really care.

Of course you don't because the facts take a big fat shit on your nonsensical blather.

It's irrelevant. T he fact is that STD rates among homosexuals far exceed the rate among heterosexuals. part of that is the fact that homosexuals have many more partners per year than heterosexuals.

Why is it irrelevant? Is it irrelevant whether someone is married to one person or whether they have several different sex partners a week?

Are lesbians more promiscuous than heterosexual men?

 

[sealybobo]

The usual complaint from libs about conservatives is that they seek to impose their views. Like everything else this is true, but only about libs. Consider gay marriage. Many states voted to amend their constitutions or enact other legislation that defined marriage as one man one woman. Libs werent successful making their case to the public (it was a loser issue at the pols) so they whined to some activist judges, who imposed gay marriage over the will of the people.
Or consider the Oregon bakers, whose business has been destroyed by lesbians offended that they wouldnt bake their wedding cake. And the bakers arent bigots, as often assumed. The lesbians picked the place because they were frequent customers there.
Or look at the demonization of smoking and smokers, who are considered one step above child molester in the media.
Or Common Core, which seeks to impose a national standard on what has traditionally been a local issue.
Or, but you get the point here.
Progs cant help themselves from wanting to make America look like their vision, where everyone practices safe sex and recylces to prevent global warming.
This isnt a free society. This is fascism in action.

Cause we want to live in a fair and free society.

How is forcing people to do things either fair or free?

Cause if you dont pay ss we will have to take care of your old broke ass and if you call 911 we will have to save your sorry life

Is it fair that some low skilled worker that earns minimum wage his/her entire working career will get out of SS far more than they put in after just a few years while people like my dad who earned a high wage and now draws, unless he lives to a very old age, won't get out what he was forced to put in?

Why do you ASSume that those of us who would rather invest our own money as we see fit will have to be taken care of. I have invested wisely and as it stands now, SS will be a bonus. I'll be more than happy to take it whether I need it or not for the sole reason that I was forced to put into it. I will gladly do so whether someone else needs it more than me.

Not everyone is as smart or as successful as you. I met a woman yesterday living on $700 a month. If we didn't make her pay into ss shed have nothing.

The next generation isnt saving shit. They're going to need ss. Americans no longer make enough to save.

 

[Wry Catcher]

Deep down they are fascist and feel their views are the only views that is acceptable.

so if they can't sweet talk you into bowing to them.... they'll just berate you and beat you down.

the most intolerant people I have come across.

LOL, Tolerance? Your post and Rabbi's thread are not the archetype example for tolerance. BTW, telling someone the truth, which they may not acknowledge - even to their self, is not to berate them or beat them down. In many cases it is offered so that someone like you may have some insight as to how they are perceived, if they are honest and take even the harshest of criticism to heart, and learn from it.

You are a lying sack of shit and a cocksucker with nothing to contribute here. Get lost.

Thanks once again for sharing Rabbi(t). Your vulgarity and obsession with homosexual activity is pathological - get some help.

 

[Wry Catcher]

Queers swap around more stds than anyone else. You support that. It cost us all, so go fuck off.

What's the STD transmission rate of same sex married couples?

Don't know, don't really care.

Of course you don't because the facts take a big fat shit on your nonsensical blather.

It's irrelevant. T he fact is that STD rates among homosexuals far exceed the rate among heterosexuals. part of that is the fact that homosexuals have many more partners per year than heterosexuals.

Why is it irrelevant? Is it irrelevant whether someone is married to one person or whether they have several different sex partners a week?

Are lesbians more promiscuous than heterosexual men?

Rabbi can't speak for either group, better to ask him about Warriors predilections.

 

[The Rabbi]

Democrats favor corporate welfare.
Who bailed out Chrysler? Who bailed out GM? Who bailed out banks? Who turned insurance companies into highly regulated oligopolies? Who wants to pick winners and losers in the market place? Who has supported "green energy" companies?
It's liberals every time.

Whose trying to get rid of the ACA? Who won't raise taxes on the rich? Who's Israel's bitch?

It's the republican right.

Oops. what does that have to do with corporate welfare? I guess when proven wrong you have to deflect to the next item.
Speaking of which, Israel's strongest supporters are Democrats, like Chuck Schumer.

 

[The Rabbi]

The usual complaint from libs about conservatives is that they seek to impose their views. Like everything else this is true, but only about libs. Consider gay marriage. Many states voted to amend their constitutions or enact other legislation that defined marriage as one man one woman. Libs werent successful making their case to the public (it was a loser issue at the pols) so they whined to some activist judges, who imposed gay marriage over the will of the people.

Oh, Rabbid, the thing is, we have a constitution that gives rights to individuals. If a majority of a state voted to confiscate your guns, you'd be pointing at the Second Amendment and saying, "See, see...this give me a right to my gun">

"Really, are you in a well-regulated militia?"

Or consider the Oregon bakers, whose business has been destroyed by lesbians offended that they wouldnt bake their wedding cake. And the bakers arent bigots, as often assumed. The lesbians picked the place because they were frequent customers there.

Isn't an argument there. Public Accommodation Laws say they have to serve any customers who have the money for services they offer. This has been black letter law for 50 years.

Or look at the demonization of smoking and smokers, who are considered one step above child molester in the media.

Why is this a partisan issue? Most conservatives don't want to try to eat their dinner in a room full of cigarette smoke, either. You do realize that smoking is bad for you, right? Now, I think a lot of the science on second hand smoke is dubious. But most folks have no problem with smoke-free workplaces. Maybe you need to talk to your big corporations, they were for it before the government was.

Or Common Core, which seeks to impose a national standard on what has traditionally been a local issue.

and why is this a bad thing? Are you saying that a HS Diploma from Florida should be worth less than one from Illinois? The USA drags behind every other industrialized nation in math and science. All those countries have national standards.

Public accommodation laws only refer to race, religion and national origin. They don't mention sexual orientation.

Public accomodation is imposing values on individuals. Regardless.

 

[The Rabbi]

Queers swap around more stds than anyone else. You support that. It cost us all, so go fuck off.

What's the STD transmission rate of same sex married couples?

Don't know, don't really care.

Of course you don't because the facts take a big fat shit on your nonsensical blather.

It's irrelevant. T he fact is that STD rates among homosexuals far exceed the rate among heterosexuals. part of that is the fact that homosexuals have many more partners per year than heterosexuals.

Why is it irrelevant? Is it irrelevant whether someone is married to one person or whether they have several different sex partners a week?

Are lesbians more promiscuous than heterosexual men?

You say that like those are mutually exclusive things.
The fact is that homosexuals have more STDs than heterosexuals as a group. This is simply inconvenient fact.

 

[The Rabbi]

What's the STD transmission rate of same sex married couples?

Don't know, don't really care.

Of course you don't because the facts take a big fat shit on your nonsensical blather.

It's irrelevant. T he fact is that STD rates among homosexuals far exceed the rate among heterosexuals. part of that is the fact that homosexuals have many more partners per year than heterosexuals.

Why is it irrelevant? Is it irrelevant whether someone is married to one person or whether they have several different sex partners a week?

Are lesbians more promiscuous than heterosexual men?

Rabbi can't speak for either group, better to ask him about Warriors predilections.

Who?
Do you have something to contribute here?

 

[Vigilante]

Money, control, power, and not necessarily in that order!

 

[idb]

The usual complaint from libs about conservatives is that they seek to impose their views. Like everything else this is true, but only about libs. Consider gay marriage. Many states voted to amend their constitutions or enact other legislation that defined marriage as one man one woman. Libs werent successful making their case to the public (it was a loser issue at the pols) so they whined to some activist judges, who imposed gay marriage over the will of the people.
Or consider the Oregon bakers, whose business has been destroyed by lesbians offended that they wouldnt bake their wedding cake. And the bakers arent bigots, as often assumed. The lesbians picked the place because they were frequent customers there.
Or look at the demonization of smoking and smokers, who are considered one step above child molester in the media.
Or Common Core, which seeks to impose a national standard on what has traditionally been a local issue.
Or, but you get the point here.
Progs cant help themselves from wanting to make America look like their vision, where everyone practices safe sex and recylces to prevent global warming.
This isnt a free society. This is fascism in action.

'Impose gay marriage'?!
Your example shows the opposite of what you are arguing.
Gay marriage isn't imposed on anyone...which States are requiring that everyone enter into same sex marriage?
Allowing gay marriages actually removes the imposition of one side's beliefs on the freedom of gays.
No one else is affected.
You failed at the very first post.

 

[idb]

See, you push values on people against their will. You are a fascist.

Guy, you had no problem pushing values on people when it was the white, Christian majority in charge, filling the restaurant with smoke and buying textbooks for Texas that don't teach about no evolution because Jesus would cry.

You just don't like it that you aren't making the calls anymore.

Thats totally wrong.
No one was obligated to eat in a smokng restaurant.
Local school boards choose textbooks.
As usual you've got nothing.

No one is obligated to marry someone of the same sex.

 

[JoeB131]

Thats totally wrong.
No one was obligated to eat in a smokng restaurant.
Local school boards choose textbooks.
As usual you've got nothing.

No, we just had to suck in their smoke. Seriously, we are all better off that we banned indoor smoking in public places.

As for textbooks, you need to read how the ignoramuses in Texas have screwed up the Textbook system.

 

[JoeB131]

Joe, that's completely utterly wrong. Only someone totally ignorant of those societies could post something so stupid.

Uh, no, guy, I have a degree in history. Now besides the fact that REAL historians dismiss the "Cold War Bullshit Numbers", the fact is, these places did not haev "gun control" like a Western European Democracy has.

Nazi Germany had a SHITLOAD of guns. So did Soviet Russia. So did China after WWII.

 

[The Rabbi]

Thats totally wrong.
No one was obligated to eat in a smokng restaurant.
Local school boards choose textbooks.
As usual you've got nothing.

No, we just had to suck in their smoke. Seriously, we are all better off that we banned indoor smoking in public places.

As for textbooks, you need to read how the ignoramuses in Texas have screwed up the Textbook system.

No, you didnt have to go there at all. Or did you miss that part?
As for Texas, what is it your business? You never lived there.

 

[The Rabbi]

Joe, that's completely utterly wrong. Only someone totally ignorant of those societies could post something so stupid.

Uh, no, guy, I have a degree in history. Now besides the fact that REAL historians dismiss the "Cold War Bullshit Numbers", the fact is, these places did not haev "gun control" like a Western European Democracy has.

Nazi Germany had a SHITLOAD of guns. So did Soviet Russia. So did China after WWII.

You have a degree in history? That's the funniest thing I've heard all day. You must have gotten it from the same place 1%er got his masters in business.

 

[Billo_Really]

Oops. what does that have to do with corporate welfare? I guess when proven wrong you have to deflect to the next item.
Speaking of which, Israel's strongest supporters are Democrats, like Chuck Schumer.

Well, you got me there on Israeli bitches.

But getting rid of the ACA and refusing to raise taxes on the rich, have a lot to do with corporate welfare. Getting rid of the ACA gets rid of legislation that prevents corporations from charging you with services they don't provide. Like cancelling your coverage due to pre-conditions. Refusing to tax the rich and make them pay the same rate everyone else pays, lets them keep 10% more of their income than the rest of us. We need to raise the tax rate on capital gains and dividends by 10%.

 

[Kondor3]

See, you push values on people against their will. You are a fascist.

Guy, you had no problem pushing values on people when it was the white, Christian majority in charge, filling the restaurant with smoke and buying textbooks for Texas that don't teach about no evolution because Jesus would cry.

You just don't like it that you aren't making the calls anymore.

Thats totally wrong.
No one was obligated to eat in a smokng restaurant.
Local school boards choose textbooks.
As usual you've got nothing.

No one is obligated to marry someone of the same sex.

No, but we (the non-Gay 97% of the country) are fast reaching the point where we will be obliged to recognize at-law the perversion called Gay Marriage; a state of affairs that cannot be allowed to stand, in the long run.

 

[idb]

See, you push values on people against their will. You are a fascist.

Guy, you had no problem pushing values on people when it was the white, Christian majority in charge, filling the restaurant with smoke and buying textbooks for Texas that don't teach about no evolution because Jesus would cry.

You just don't like it that you aren't making the calls anymore.

Thats totally wrong.
No one was obligated to eat in a smokng restaurant.
Local school boards choose textbooks.
As usual you've got nothing.

No one is obligated to marry someone of the same sex.

No, but we (the non-Gay 97% of the country) are fast reaching the point where we will be obliged to recognize at-law the perversion called Gay Marriage; a state of affairs that cannot be allowed to stand, in the long run.

Why should you have the right to impose your views on others and prevent them from marrying?