CDZ Why do some people feel threatened by Gay marriage & equality for Gays

[Tommy Tainant]

I never met an "out" gay person till I was 19. Although a few people I went to school with came out at some point as it became more acceptable.
My culture was not accepting of Gays and it was not easy for people to be honest about their sexuality. I think its a lot better these days.
Perhaps culture has something to do with it ?

 

[Fair&Balanced]

I never met an "out" gay person till I was 19. Although a few people I went to school with came out at some point as it became more acceptable.
My culture was not accepting of Gays and it was not easy for people to be honest about their sexuality. I think its a lot better these days.
Perhaps culture has something to do with it ?

I grew up in a town near a "gay town" so we knew what they were, but mostly we just drove by and threw beer cans at them and made fun of them. Met a guy in the National Guard who changed that, great guy, god father to my oldest . Life long friend. I don't give a crap who he's sleeping with.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

I suspect that there might be a few answers.

Perhaps its a hangover from a previous age where homosexuality was illegal and frowned upon ?

Possibly due to ignorance.

Possibly due to their religious teachings.

Maybe something in their own psyche that drives it.

My own view is quite simplistic. Its none of my business who people want to shag. And it doesnt affect me in any way if two people of the same sex want to get hitched. Good luck to them, we need more love in the world.

I would suggest that my view is a conservative one and is shared by the majority of decent conservatives.

In our lifetime homosexual activity could get you arrested, and it still could in some of the more backward countries of the world. Do you want to see us make common cause with the likes of Saudi Arabia ?

Ok only like one guy I know of actually got aressted for homosexuality. And that wasn't even about him being gay. A jealous lover called in a fake robbery to catch him with another guy and the guy was acting belligerent and the cops wanted to charge him with anything they could find.

Secondly this op is a loaded post. But to answer you're question since you can't seem make the giant leap of trying to understand and empathize yourself. They view marriage as a holy sacrament between them and God, and they don't want to see that turn into a mockery in front of God, so they turned to the government to force their way upon other people. Which is bad...but let's not pretend the other side does not wish to use the government in the same way. People against gay marriage are absolutely entitled to their own beliefs, they shouldn't be using government to get their way.

Thirdly, do you think Hillary is some mighty fortress for gay rights?? After all as a senator she did say that Heterosexual marriage is a fundamental pillar in America and should be protected as much as possible. And yes Saudia Arabia is one of the worst countries when it comes to human rights across almost all spectrums, so why do we keep supporting politicians who butter up to them for their donations?!?!? This includes Hillary, Obama, the Bush's and pretty much 80% of senate and congress.

Lastly, the Supreme Court ruled that gay marriage should be left to the states to decide back in 2012 or whenever that was. They then went against that ruling a mere 2 years later and said states have no say in the matter. There is no other way to look at their rulings and say they are not an activist Supreme Court, why is that bad. Because 9 unelected officials should have no place in acting on what their personal beliefs are. Let's imagine by some miracle October surprise, trump and hackers comes out with some really damning evidence on Clinton and trump wins. Now trump nominates judges who will be more supportive of his fascistic policies...do you really want the people in the Supreme Court to have the type of power to sway us into fascistic rule, much like they gave themselves the power in the most recent gay marriage ruling??

Trump seems gay friendly to me.

I dont think that Trump holds a strong position on any issue apart from Trump.

That of course isn't true. But brings up something amazing. The GOP voters REJECTED a candidate who did have a strong stance on gays in favor of one who doesn't and STILL that isnt good enough for some liberals. I think yall just like to complain.

But Trump is now courting the bigot vote.
Desperate Donald Trump Seeks Stronger Support From Christian Nationalists

 

[the_human_being]

I suspect that there might be a few answers.

Perhaps its a hangover from a previous age where homosexuality was illegal and frowned upon ?

Possibly due to ignorance.

Possibly due to their religious teachings.

Maybe something in their own psyche that drives it.

My own view is quite simplistic. Its none of my business who people want to shag. And it doesnt affect me in any way if two people of the same sex want to get hitched. Good luck to them, we need more love in the world.

I would suggest that my view is a conservative one and is shared by the majority of decent conservatives.

In our lifetime homosexual activity could get you arrested, and it still could in some of the more backward countries of the world. Do you want to see us make common cause with the likes of Saudi Arabia ?

Actually we look upon them as being filthy and carriers of germs, bacteria, and disease. I don't feel particularly at ease around anything that is unclean.

I think that this, and a few other posts are outside the rules,and spirit,of the CDZ.

Just being honest about how I feel around them.

 

[Fair&Balanced]

I suspect that there might be a few answers.

Perhaps its a hangover from a previous age where homosexuality was illegal and frowned upon ?

Possibly due to ignorance.

Possibly due to their religious teachings.

Maybe something in their own psyche that drives it.

My own view is quite simplistic. Its none of my business who people want to shag. And it doesnt affect me in any way if two people of the same sex want to get hitched. Good luck to them, we need more love in the world.

I would suggest that my view is a conservative one and is shared by the majority of decent conservatives.

In our lifetime homosexual activity could get you arrested, and it still could in some of the more backward countries of the world. Do you want to see us make common cause with the likes of Saudi Arabia ?

Ok only like one guy I know of actually got aressted for homosexuality. And that wasn't even about him being gay. A jealous lover called in a fake robbery to catch him with another guy and the guy was acting belligerent and the cops wanted to charge him with anything they could find.

Secondly this op is a loaded post. But to answer you're question since you can't seem make the giant leap of trying to understand and empathize yourself. They view marriage as a holy sacrament between them and God, and they don't want to see that turn into a mockery in front of God, so they turned to the government to force their way upon other people. Which is bad...but let's not pretend the other side does not wish to use the government in the same way. People against gay marriage are absolutely entitled to their own beliefs, they shouldn't be using government to get their way.

Thirdly, do you think Hillary is some mighty fortress for gay rights?? After all as a senator she did say that Heterosexual marriage is a fundamental pillar in America and should be protected as much as possible. And yes Saudia Arabia is one of the worst countries when it comes to human rights across almost all spectrums, so why do we keep supporting politicians who butter up to them for their donations?!?!? This includes Hillary, Obama, the Bush's and pretty much 80% of senate and congress.

Lastly, the Supreme Court ruled that gay marriage should be left to the states to decide back in 2012 or whenever that was. They then went against that ruling a mere 2 years later and said states have no say in the matter. There is no other way to look at their rulings and say they are not an activist Supreme Court, why is that bad. Because 9 unelected officials should have no place in acting on what their personal beliefs are. Let's imagine by some miracle October surprise, trump and hackers comes out with some really damning evidence on Clinton and trump wins. Now trump nominates judges who will be more supportive of his fascistic policies...do you really want the people in the Supreme Court to have the type of power to sway us into fascistic rule, much like they gave themselves the power in the most recent gay marriage ruling??

Trump seems gay friendly to me.

I dont think that Trump holds a strong position on any issue apart from Trump.

That of course isn't true. But brings up something amazing. The GOP voters REJECTED a candidate who did have a strong stance on gays in favor of one who doesn't and STILL that isnt good enough for some liberals. I think yall just like to complain.

But Trump is now courting the bigot vote.
Desperate Donald Trump Seeks Stronger Support From Christian Nationalists

So what Tommy? Hillary is seeking the BLM vote and they are every bit as hateful as any group that Trump has supporting him.

Hateful assholes are not limited to any one political ideology

 

[MaryL]

Tommy, please, get rid of those cute pictures of men... bonding. I don't care about homosexuals, enough said. You have a right to wave a red flag in front of a group of bulls. You would be better advised to use a little more discretion instead.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

Ok only like one guy I know of actually got aressted for homosexuality. And that wasn't even about him being gay. A jealous lover called in a fake robbery to catch him with another guy and the guy was acting belligerent and the cops wanted to charge him with anything they could find.

Secondly this op is a loaded post. But to answer you're question since you can't seem make the giant leap of trying to understand and empathize yourself. They view marriage as a holy sacrament between them and God, and they don't want to see that turn into a mockery in front of God, so they turned to the government to force their way upon other people. Which is bad...but let's not pretend the other side does not wish to use the government in the same way. People against gay marriage are absolutely entitled to their own beliefs, they shouldn't be using government to get their way.

Thirdly, do you think Hillary is some mighty fortress for gay rights?? After all as a senator she did say that Heterosexual marriage is a fundamental pillar in America and should be protected as much as possible. And yes Saudia Arabia is one of the worst countries when it comes to human rights across almost all spectrums, so why do we keep supporting politicians who butter up to them for their donations?!?!? This includes Hillary, Obama, the Bush's and pretty much 80% of senate and congress.

Lastly, the Supreme Court ruled that gay marriage should be left to the states to decide back in 2012 or whenever that was. They then went against that ruling a mere 2 years later and said states have no say in the matter. There is no other way to look at their rulings and say they are not an activist Supreme Court, why is that bad. Because 9 unelected officials should have no place in acting on what their personal beliefs are. Let's imagine by some miracle October surprise, trump and hackers comes out with some really damning evidence on Clinton and trump wins. Now trump nominates judges who will be more supportive of his fascistic policies...do you really want the people in the Supreme Court to have the type of power to sway us into fascistic rule, much like they gave themselves the power in the most recent gay marriage ruling??

Trump seems gay friendly to me.

I dont think that Trump holds a strong position on any issue apart from Trump.

That of course isn't true. But brings up something amazing. The GOP voters REJECTED a candidate who did have a strong stance on gays in favor of one who doesn't and STILL that isnt good enough for some liberals. I think yall just like to complain.

But Trump is now courting the bigot vote.
Desperate Donald Trump Seeks Stronger Support From Christian Nationalists

So what Tommy? Hillary is seeking the BLM vote and they are every bit as hateful as any group that Trump has supporting him.

Hateful assholes are not limited to any one political ideology

But this thread is about Gay marriage.

 

[Fair&Balanced]

Trump seems gay friendly to me.

I dont think that Trump holds a strong position on any issue apart from Trump.

That of course isn't true. But brings up something amazing. The GOP voters REJECTED a candidate who did have a strong stance on gays in favor of one who doesn't and STILL that isnt good enough for some liberals. I think yall just like to complain.

But Trump is now courting the bigot vote.
Desperate Donald Trump Seeks Stronger Support From Christian Nationalists

So what Tommy? Hillary is seeking the BLM vote and they are every bit as hateful as any group that Trump has supporting him.

Hateful assholes are not limited to any one political ideology

But this thread is about Gay marriage.

True. But I think we've exhausted that topic. Some people are just hateful and want to tell other people how to live their lives.

YOU feel strongly about gay marriage, and so you think attacks on it are more offensive than attacks on other things, but they aren't.

 

[MaryL]

Trump seems gay friendly to me.

I dont think that Trump holds a strong position on any issue apart from Trump.

That of course isn't true. But brings up something amazing. The GOP voters REJECTED a candidate who did have a strong stance on gays in favor of one who doesn't and STILL that isnt good enough for some liberals. I think yall just like to complain.

But Trump is now courting the bigot vote.
Desperate Donald Trump Seeks Stronger Support From Christian Nationalists

So what Tommy? Hillary is seeking the BLM vote and they are every bit as hateful as any group that Trump has supporting him.

Hateful assholes are not limited to any one political ideology

But this thread is about Gay marriage.

No fair, you peeked. Could ya do the rest of us a fav, and lay off the soft gay porn under your avatar. Just for ...aesthetic reasons.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

I dont think that Trump holds a strong position on any issue apart from Trump.

That of course isn't true. But brings up something amazing. The GOP voters REJECTED a candidate who did have a strong stance on gays in favor of one who doesn't and STILL that isnt good enough for some liberals. I think yall just like to complain.

But Trump is now courting the bigot vote.
Desperate Donald Trump Seeks Stronger Support From Christian Nationalists

So what Tommy? Hillary is seeking the BLM vote and they are every bit as hateful as any group that Trump has supporting him.

Hateful assholes are not limited to any one political ideology

But this thread is about Gay marriage.

No fair, you peeked. Could do the rest of us a fav, and lay off the soft gay porn under your avatar. Just for ...aesthetic reasons.

Its just two guys on a horse. One of them is masterful and the other is subservient. Nothing rude going on.

 

[Bush92]

I suspect that there might be a few answers.

Perhaps its a hangover from a previous age where homosexuality was illegal and frowned upon ?

Possibly due to ignorance.

Possibly due to their religious teachings.

Maybe something in their own psyche that drives it.

My own view is quite simplistic. Its none of my business who people want to shag. And it doesnt affect me in any way if two people of the same sex want to get hitched. Good luck to them, we need more love in the world.

I would suggest that my view is a conservative one and is shared by the majority of decent conservatives.

In our lifetime homosexual activity could get you arrested, and it still could in some of the more backward countries of the world. Do you want to see us make common cause with the likes of Saudi Arabia ?

It runs contrary to the traditional family values that have been adhered to since the dawn of man. God did not make the first two humans Adam and Jack.

 

[MaryL]

Tommy tommy tommy. Don't make me put up cute baby or kitty kat pics as a form of visual eyewash. Please.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

I suspect that there might be a few answers.

Perhaps its a hangover from a previous age where homosexuality was illegal and frowned upon ?

Possibly due to ignorance.

Possibly due to their religious teachings.

Maybe something in their own psyche that drives it.

My own view is quite simplistic. Its none of my business who people want to shag. And it doesnt affect me in any way if two people of the same sex want to get hitched. Good luck to them, we need more love in the world.

I would suggest that my view is a conservative one and is shared by the majority of decent conservatives.

In our lifetime homosexual activity could get you arrested, and it still could in some of the more backward countries of the world. Do you want to see us make common cause with the likes of Saudi Arabia ?

It runs contrary to the traditional family values that have been adhered to since the dawn of man. God did not make the first two humans Adam and Jack.

But that doesnt mean that it should be opposed . We used to burn witches in traditional ceremonies. That wasnt right.

 

[Bush92]

I suspect that there might be a few answers.

Perhaps its a hangover from a previous age where homosexuality was illegal and frowned upon ?

Possibly due to ignorance.

Possibly due to their religious teachings.

Maybe something in their own psyche that drives it.

My own view is quite simplistic. Its none of my business who people want to shag. And it doesnt affect me in any way if two people of the same sex want to get hitched. Good luck to them, we need more love in the world.

I would suggest that my view is a conservative one and is shared by the majority of decent conservatives.

In our lifetime homosexual activity could get you arrested, and it still could in some of the more backward countries of the world. Do you want to see us make common cause with the likes of Saudi Arabia ?

It runs contrary to the traditional family values that have been adhered to since the dawn of man. God did not make the first two humans Adam and Jack.

But that doesnt mean that it should be opposed . We used to burn witches in traditional ceremonies. That wasnt right.

So how many gays were burned at the stake last year?

 

[Holos]

Tommy, please, get rid of those cute pictures of men... bonding. I don't care about homosexuals, enough said. You have a right to wave a red flag in front of a group of bulls. You would be better advised to use a little more discretion instead.

I agree it is distracting to have such splendorous images on a forum involving text and debate. I am really sensitive to bright colors, especially when being particularly concentrated on gray and black as the standard outlay for reading, typing and writing.

 

[Bush92]

What is being denied to gays? They can still have sex and live together. Just should not be allowed to call themselves husband and husband. It goes against human nature. Oh, and stop with the parades they are exhibitions in perversion.

 

[Holos]

What is being denied to gays? They can still have sex and live together. Just should not be allowed to call themselves husband and husband. It goes against human nature. Oh, and stop with the parades they are exhibitions in perversion.

How is husbandry of human nature?

 

[MaryL]

I know a person with schizophrenia, and if a large group of people funded mandatory acceptance of schizophrenia as an alternative to non schizoids, and mandated new laws to normalize insanity, and subsequently also created laws to punish people for not accepting mental illness... Funny that, homosexuals practically bought out any and all organizations that deemed Homosexuality a illness. Now, ta da! they are NORMAL. Something smells rotten in Denmark, buck-o.

 

[Bush92]

What is being denied to gays? They can still have sex and live together. Just should not be allowed to call themselves husband and husband. It goes against human nature. Oh, and stop with the parades they are exhibitions in perversion.

How is husbandry of human nature?

It just is. How did God create the universe? I don't know, but I know he did.

 

[MaryL]

I suspect that there might be a few answers.

Perhaps its a hangover from a previous age where homosexuality was illegal and frowned upon ?

Possibly due to ignorance.

Possibly due to their religious teachings.

Maybe something in their own psyche that drives it.

My own view is quite simplistic. Its none of my business who people want to shag. And it doesnt affect me in any way if two people of the same sex want to get hitched. Good luck to them, we need more love in the world.

I would suggest that my view is a conservative one and is shared by the majority of decent conservatives.

In our lifetime homosexual activity could get you arrested, and it still could in some of the more backward countries of the world. Do you want to see us make common cause with the likes of Saudi Arabia ?

It runs contrary to the traditional family values that have been adhered to since the dawn of man. God did not make the first two humans Adam and Jack.

But that doesnt mean that it should be opposed . We used to burn witches in traditional ceremonies. That wasnt right.

So how many gays were burned at the stake last year?

Lets ask our Muslim freinds. Islamic State (deash) might have burned, flung off buildings or otherwise murdered a homosexual or two, why doesn't Tommy go to Iraq and flaunt that freak flag and see what happens? We in the west might get a little annoyed at these childish antics, but homosexuals aren't the victims they make them selves out to be here in the west.