Why don't liberals support the protests in Iran?! Because they're not really feminists & pro-LGBT!

[Moonglow]

Who is not supporting them ? Another con thread based on a fallacy.

If anything it was cons who condemned Arab spring uprisings. Now you are cool with them?

Mr Obama did not support them in 2009 & isnt supporting them now. President Trump is strongly supporting them. one is a leader, the other isnt!

Words is all you get from Trump....Words they can't use to throw off oppression...Damn Dotard..

Actually this isn't fully accurate, Trump has sent weapons to the Ukraine, upsetting Russia. Obama once again refused to arm the Ukraines in their fight against Mother Russia.

What the fuck does this have to do With Iran?

 

[bodecea]

Why don't liberals support the protests in Iran?! Because they're not really feminists & pro-LGBT!

What obliges U.S. Liberals to support or oppose protests happening in any nation other than the U.S?

Do people espousing the "America first" doctrine give a damn about anything going on in other nations, much less the plight of common citizens in them?

Remember how much hatred has come from those in power over the peaceful protests of the NFL players.

 

[usmbguest5318]

Why don't liberals support the protests in Iran?

Don't they?

It is the right of all people to speak out against their government. The government of Iran should respect this right and heed the voices of thousands of Iranians who are demonstrating across the country for better opportunities and a better future.
-- Sen. Bernie Sanders tweeting on the matter. His tweet has ~20K likes and ~4500 retweets.

The West should stand clearly and unflinchingly on the side of those who are risking life and limb to protest for freedom. #IranProtests
-- Rep. Brendan Boyle tweeting on the matter
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The fact of the matter is that for all intents and purposes, "real time" statements of position on foreign policy is, in the U.S., the exclusive purview of the POTUS and the executive branch of government; consequently, he must take some sort of potion on the matter, and it's nobody else's place to do so.

• U.S. Foreign Policy Powers: Congress and the President
  
• The President’s Power in the Field of Foreign Relations

That doesn't mean others cannot have and air their opinions, but given the way the Constitution has arranged the foreign policy powers, those opinions that differ from the POTUS' don't matter as go things like the country's support for non-American's activities in their own countries.

Now, if the POTUS wants to spend money on behalf of or in support of foreign nation's protesters, that's a different matter altogether. If he's doing so by providing material support to anti-government protesters/forces in a foreign nation, his doing so can very easily be considered an act of war by the government in power. Accordingly, while it's okay to voice support, going beyond "lip service" when the "natives are restive" in a foreign country, prudence requires a POTUS to exercise a very high degree of circumspection. You recall "Iran-Contra," don' t you? It's seditious to go beyond "lip service" delivered from within a head of state's own nation.

Think about it. What would be the U.S. response to another nation actively inciting and supporting, say, the BLM protesters? Whether one agrees with the BLM organization or doesn't, no foreign power has any business interfering one way or another with regard to BLM and its efforts. It's a domestic U.S. matter and just as we demand that other nations respect our sovereignty by not interfering, so too must we do with regard to other nations' domestic travails. That or be willing to risk American men, materiel and treasure as we did in Iraq, Afghanistan, Nicaragua, and other places.

 

[usmbguest5318]

Obama, Hillary, Jimmy Carter, Bill Clinton, Ben Rhodes...that's right off the top of my head

Not one of them holds an appointed or elected federal government State Department or WH position. Each of them is a private citizen just as you and I are and as such, whatever they might say would be of no import. As I've already said and shown (to readers who bothered to click the links and read the content found there), setting foreign policy is the duty and privilege of the POTUS, nobody else. If he doesn't support or oppose "whatever," it doesn't matter whether anyone else in the U.S. does or doesn't. People who understand how the U.S. Constitution and government work realize that; thus they focus their energies where they'll matter.

 

[pismoe]

Who is not supporting them ? Another con thread based on a fallacy.

If anything it was cons who condemned Arab spring uprisings. Now you are cool with them?

------------------------------------------- arab spring uprisings were muslim and 'arab' led and see 'libya' today to see what you have . See Egypt where an arab muslim was going to do a muslim theocracy with the 'muslim brotherhood' in Egypt . Then moderate muslim General Al'Sissi stage a coup and got rid of the muslim Brotherhoods 'morsi' , think his name was 'morsi' Timmy .

 

[Syriusly]

Our country was founded on the idea of freedom and the right of all citizens to peacefully express themselves. Across the world, in Iran, people are currently fighting and dying for this very right.

www.nytimes.com/2018/01/02/opinion/iran-protests-silence-america.html

As a liberal I am glad to support the people protesting in Iran.

Oh wait- you are just lying again.

 

[basquebromance]

The fact that the mainstream media won't cover it speaks to how much they colluded with the last administration with regards to the Iran deal and everything else

 

[frigidweirdo]

Our country was founded on the idea of freedom and the right of all citizens to peacefully express themselves. Across the world, in Iran, people are currently fighting and dying for this very right.

www.nytimes.com/2018/01/02/opinion/iran-protests-silence-america.html

And yet the US went into Venezuela where Hugo Chavez was getting the poor people to vote, and the US helped organize a coup against him so they could put in a non-democratically elected leader....

Hmmm....