Why Liberals Hate Free Speech

[PoliticalChic]

Why Liberals Hate Free Speech

Hate it? No, we invented it...

Classical liberals did not invent these freedoms. They simply decided to place on paper( The Constitution of the US) what was already a right.
Classical liberals believed in freedom and liberty for all. They also emphasized that freedom and liberty is for the individual. Not to be used to pit one group of people against another.
Modern liberals do this. They create conflict by herding people into groups, causing these groups to view each other in negative ways.

A modern liberal is the same as a liberal 230 years ago, only much smarter and dealing with a much different world.

That's not even close to accurate. In fact its LIE...

Nope. I'm a liberal so I would know.

The Liberal iteration of totalitarian.

Along with these iterations: communist, socialist, fascist, Nazi and Progressive.

All share the same hatred of individualism......
....and, as we have seen....free speech.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Why Liberals Hate Free Speech

Hate it? No, we invented it...

Classical liberals did not invent these freedoms. They simply decided to place on paper( The Constitution of the US) what was already a right.
Classical liberals believed in freedom and liberty for all. They also emphasized that freedom and liberty is for the individual. Not to be used to pit one group of people against another.
Modern liberals do this. They create conflict by herding people into groups, causing these groups to view each other in negative ways.

A modern liberal is the same as a liberal 230 years ago, only much smarter and dealing with a much different world.

That's not even close to accurate. In fact its LIE...

Nope. I'm a liberal so I would know.

You know nothing of classical liberalism. You are in fact a polar opposite of the concept.

Classical liberalism is modern conservative/libertarianism.

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

It's the Liberals who hate free speech?

On April 4 [2014], [Liberal] Virginia Gov. Terry McAuliffe (D) signed a law authorizing outdoor areas of the state’s public college campuses as public forums for free speech. The bill, which was introduced by Del. Scott Lingamfelter (R), passed both houses of the Virginia General Assembly unanimously. Virginia’s new law goes into effect on July 1.

The Foundation for Individual Rights in Education was instrumental in advocating for the bill’s passage. After the bill was introduced, FIRE’s legislative and policy director, Joe Cohn, went to Virginia to explain the importance of college free speech rights to legislators.

Cohn told The College Fix in an interview that Virginia is the first state to pass such a law expanding free speech rights.

Hmmmm....first state to do this...Liberal Terry McAuliffe, Governor.

Virginia the First State to Ditch Free Speech 'Zones' Entirely - The College Fix

Why should not all areas of a campus be forums for free speech? Why permit any restriction? The law does not expand free speech, but merely mitigates restrictions.

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

A modern liberal is the same as a liberal 230 years ago, only much smarter and dealing with a much different world.

Too funny.

Not even close, but you are free to continue making that ridiculous claim.

 

[ThoughtCrimes]

Pulling federal funding to universities for speech it does not agree with would be unconstitutional because there is no compelling interest and it would be a very restrictive mean even if there was a compelling interest.

Any university or college who accepts government money is bound by the same rules the government is. It cannot decide what speech it does or does not like.

So then why can the same government, under Ben Carson, pull funding for speech it doesn't agree with?

Let's see how much 'constitutional law' you actually learned.

Where does the Constitution give the federal government the authority to use tax money to support universities and colleges?

Looks like you'll have to give back that 'A,' huh?

You so very smugly asked another, "Where does the Constitution give the federal government the authority to use tax money to support universities and colleges?" [Emphasis Added]

To even those with an inadequate understanding of the Constitution, as yourself, one should be able to recall the enumerated powers of Congress and instantly recall the "necessary and proper" clause of Article I, Section 1, Clause 18.

Perhaps you may have heard of one or two of the pieces of legislation passed by Congress and signed into law:
1. Morrill Land-Grant Act (1862), establishing Land-Grant Collages;
2. Hatch Act (1887)
3. Agricultural Collage Act (1890)
4. Smith-Lever Act (1914)

Now play nice, and go to the back of the class, dear! There's a good little girl!

 

[NYcarbineer]

It's the Liberals who hate free speech?

On April 4 [2014], [Liberal] Virginia Gov. Terry McAuliffe (D) signed a law authorizing outdoor areas of the state’s public college campuses as public forums for free speech. The bill, which was introduced by Del. Scott Lingamfelter (R), passed both houses of the Virginia General Assembly unanimously. Virginia’s new law goes into effect on July 1.

The Foundation for Individual Rights in Education was instrumental in advocating for the bill’s passage. After the bill was introduced, FIRE’s legislative and policy director, Joe Cohn, went to Virginia to explain the importance of college free speech rights to legislators.

Cohn told The College Fix in an interview that Virginia is the first state to pass such a law expanding free speech rights.

Hmmmm....first state to do this...Liberal Terry McAuliffe, Governor.

Virginia the First State to Ditch Free Speech 'Zones' Entirely - The College Fix

Why should not all areas of a campus be forums for free speech? Why permit any restriction? The law does not expand free speech, but merely mitigates restrictions.

You're an idiot. The OP claims liberals hate free speech. A liberal governor expands free speech. The OP and you are both idiots.

 

[bedowin62]

what are collages??

should i ask the Progressive genius here????

 

[NYcarbineer]

Why Liberals Hate Free Speech

Hate it? No, we invented it...

Classical liberals did not invent these freedoms. They simply decided to place on paper( The Constitution of the US) what was already a right.
Classical liberals believed in freedom and liberty for all. They also emphasized that freedom and liberty is for the individual. Not to be used to pit one group of people against another.
Modern liberals do this. They create conflict by herding people into groups, causing these groups to view each other in negative ways.

A modern liberal is the same as a liberal 230 years ago, only much smarter and dealing with a much different world.

That's not even close to accurate. In fact its LIE...

Nope. I'm a liberal so I would know.

The Liberal iteration of totalitarian.

Along with these iterations: communist, socialist, fascist, Nazi and Progressive.

All share the same hatred of individualism......
....and, as we have seen....free speech.

Be sure to include my example of Governor McAuliffe the next time you start this thread over again.

 

[Uncensored2008]

The Liberal iteration of totalitarian.

Along with these iterations: communist, socialist, fascist, Nazi and Progressive.

All share the same hatred of individualism......
....and, as we have seen....free speech.

Totalitarianism is the foundation upon which leftism rests. Without the totalitarian foundation, leftism cannot long stand.

I agree with you that leftism is ultimately an expression of hatred of life and all living things. The leftist usually doesn't seek to outright kill their victims, but simply to deny to people the ability to live.

 

[NYcarbineer]

what are collages??

should i ask the Progressive genius here????

A collage would be something like different pictures of your head and your ass,

mixed together so that they overlapped each other.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Classical liberalism is modern conservative/libertarianism.

Modern liberalism is classical Communism/Fascism.

 

[NYcarbineer]

The Liberal iteration of totalitarian.

Along with these iterations: communist, socialist, fascist, Nazi and Progressive.

All share the same hatred of individualism......
....and, as we have seen....free speech.

Totalitarianism is the foundation upon which leftism rests. Without the totalitarian foundation, leftism cannot long stand.

I agree with you that leftism is ultimately an expression of hatred of life and all living things. The leftist usually doesn't seek to outright kill their victims, but simply to deny to people the ability to live.

All liberal advances and conservative defeats in this country's history have been achieved democratically.

We don't need totalitarianism. We have the past, present, and future on our side.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Classical liberalism is modern conservative/libertarianism.

Modern liberalism is classical Communism/Fascism.

Meltdown time. You couldn't be more wrong. Liberalism keeps winning, decade after decade, within the confines of democratic government.

 

[Uncensored2008]

All liberal advances and conservative defeats in this country's history have been achieved democratically.

Especially the abolition of slavery.

BUT this has little to do with you leftists - you are anti-liberal,

We don't need totalitarianism. We have the past, present, and future on our side.

To establish the hell on Earth you promote, you must have the ability to compel by force. The majority of people will not work to their own demise for long, without the force of whips and guns.

You always work the same way, in Russia, in China, in Vietnam, in Cambodia, in Cuba, et al. You sell a fiction to the stupid to gain power, once in power the noose tightens. If you succeed, America will be a third world shit hole in short measure.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Meltdown time. You couldn't be more wrong. Liberalism keeps winning, decade after decade, within the confines of democratic government.

As you already noted, liberalism defines modern conservative/libertarians.

What you are is fascists/communists. You have utterly no connection to liberalism.

 

[ThoughtCrimes]

what are collages??

should i ask the Progressive genius here????

Collage is the French pronunciation of college, OR a piece of art, OR a typo. And why the fuck haven't you learned to capitalize the first word in a sentence, shit for brains?

 

[PoliticalChic]

Pulling federal funding to universities for speech it does not agree with would be unconstitutional because there is no compelling interest and it would be a very restrictive mean even if there was a compelling interest.

Any university or college who accepts government money is bound by the same rules the government is. It cannot decide what speech it does or does not like.

So then why can the same government, under Ben Carson, pull funding for speech it doesn't agree with?

Let's see how much 'constitutional law' you actually learned.

Where does the Constitution give the federal government the authority to use tax money to support universities and colleges?

Looks like you'll have to give back that 'A,' huh?

You so very smugly asked another, "Where does the Constitution give the federal government the authority to use tax money to support universities and colleges?" [Emphasis Added]

To even those with an inadequate understanding of the Constitution, as yourself, one should be able to recall the enumerated powers of Congress and instantly recall the "necessary and proper" clause of Article I, Section 1, Clause 18.

Perhaps you may have heard of one or two of the pieces of legislation passed by Congress and signed into law:
1. Morrill Land-Grant Act (1862), establishing Land-Grant Collages;
2. Hatch Act (1887)
3. Agricultural Collage Act (1890)
4. Smith-Lever Act (1914)

Now play nice, and go to the back of the class, dear! There's a good little girl!

Well...glad you dropped by for a remedial education.

This is the class where, first, I instruct you....then give you the failing grade you deserve for your post.


Take notes:
Necessary and Proper is restricted to the specific authority of Article 1, second 8: it is the vehicle for the enumerated powers.

As you cannot, as I stated, correctly, earlier.....show any of the enumerated powers that give authority to the federal government to fund those Liberal institutions known, laughably, as 'universities'.....you remain the failure that I regularly identify you as.

1. Evidence for this placement can be construed by Article I, section 9, which limits powers granted to Congress in section 8, and thus, suggests that spending power has already been conferred by Article I, section 8.
2. Under this view, the test for whether spending is permissible under the Constitution is simply to see if the spending is necessary and proper in order to carry out any or all of the enumerated powers.
3. South Dakota v. Dole…Court found that withholding funds to keep drinking age at 21 was a ‘pressure’ not a compulsion.’

'Necessary and Proper' doesn’t expand any enumerated power, or expand any congressional power.


Professor Randy Barnett: “I have always been attracted to Madison’s view that there is no freestanding Spending Clause, but only a power to spend what is necessary and properly incident to the enumerated powers.

In the future, do your homework so that I don't have to discipline you again.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Collage is the French pronunciation of college,

Had your post been in French, we may have bought your bullshit, but....

OR a piece of art, OR a typo. And why the fuck haven't you learned to capitalize the first word in a sentence, shit for brains?

The lesson here is to proofread the little hate memes you copy from the leftist hate sites, before posting.

Remember, most leftists are stupid, so errors are common....

 

[PoliticalChic]

Classical liberals did not invent these freedoms. They simply decided to place on paper( The Constitution of the US) what was already a right.
Classical liberals believed in freedom and liberty for all. They also emphasized that freedom and liberty is for the individual. Not to be used to pit one group of people against another.
Modern liberals do this. They create conflict by herding people into groups, causing these groups to view each other in negative ways.

A modern liberal is the same as a liberal 230 years ago, only much smarter and dealing with a much different world.

That's not even close to accurate. In fact its LIE...

Nope. I'm a liberal so I would know.

The Liberal iteration of totalitarian.

Along with these iterations: communist, socialist, fascist, Nazi and Progressive.

All share the same hatred of individualism......
....and, as we have seen....free speech.

Be sure to include my example of Governor McAuliffe the next time you start this thread over again.

"Be sure to include blah blah blah...."

Why?

It is a mote in the eye of reality.

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Free speech is flunking out on college campuses


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Majority Of Colleges Restrict Free Speech On Campus: Report


The Anti-Free-Speech Movement at UCLA

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Classical liberals did not invent these freedoms. They simply decided to place on paper( The Constitution of the US) what was already a right.
Classical liberals believed in freedom and liberty for all. They also emphasized that freedom and liberty is for the individual. Not to be used to pit one group of people against another.
Modern liberals do this. They create conflict by herding people into groups, causing these groups to view each other in negative ways.

A modern liberal is the same as a liberal 230 years ago, only much smarter and dealing with a much different world.

That's not even close to accurate. In fact its LIE...

Nope. I'm a liberal so I would know.

You know nothing of classical liberalism. You are in fact a polar opposite of the concept.

Classical liberalism is modern conservative/libertarianism.

Nope. Not even close. When liberals founded the place your kind fled, to Canada.