francoHFW
Diamond Member
They are democratic, well-regulated, have good safety nets, some nationalized industry, which makes them socialist. BREAKING for dupes: It's not a bad word, and is NOT godless communism. Join the real world.That's what I said- then went on to give the real definition.The dictionary definitions work for just about any form of government. Any government either owns, controls, or regulates production. Socialism today and ever since the USSR was unmasked in the 30's refers to a democracy that regulates capitalism and has a good safety net. "We're all socialists now!"- Finland PM when ACA passed.What is your argument? That RWers don't know what socialism is?
No, I assume anyone capable of reading a basic dictionary knows what Socialism is. My question was: Why does the left love Socialism?
I made the argument in the OP that I believe it is due to a lack of confidence in their ability to compete with others. It's interesting, several lefties have transmuted that statement into my claiming they are "afraid of" something, which I never said. I lack confidence in my ability to do some things well but I am seldom afraid to try. So I think this is a Freudian slip... perhaps fear has a lot to do with their lack of confidence?
All modern countries -Scandinavia, EU, Canada, Oz, NZ, Japan, even US and UK, are socialist- it's the final answer. Too bad we are a pander to the greedy idiot rich GOP mess...see sig.
By such broad definition is meaningless - everything is socialism then. Certainly EVERY government owns,controls or regulates some aspect of production.
"Socialism today and ever since the USSR was unmasked in the 30's refers to a democracy that regulates capitalism and has a good safety net. "We're all socialists now!"- Finland PM when ACA passed.
All modern countries -Scandinavia, EU, Canada, Oz, NZ, Japan, even US and UK, are socialist- it's the final answer. Too bad we are a pander to the greedy idiot rich GOP mess...see sig.
Or it isn't.
Socialism is a comment on economy not authoritarian/democratic dimension.
Seems to me that defining socialism or capitalism by majority of economy is the proper way.
All of the countries you mentioned are MIXED economies in which majority of production is privately owned and therefore they are mostly capitalist countries.