Will we ever recover from Jimmy Carter's epic Middle East policies?

[Theowl32]

Can you believe what an utter disaster it has been? Holy shit.

 

[Moonglow]

Who fault was it before Jimmy's?

 

[prison/con.net]

only one mistake was made. NOT nuking Teheran when they grabbed out embassies. If he'd just used a "clean" neutron nuke on them, that would have been the END of organized anti-US crap, ANYWHERE for at least 60 years.

 

[prison/con.net]

mostly fdr and wilson. both wars started by dems

 

[Moonglow]

only one mistake was made. NOT nuking Teheran when they grabbed out embassies. If he'd just used a "clean" neutron nuke on them, that would have been the END of organized anti-US crap, ANYWHERE for at least 60 years.

Always the answer to you fundies...

 

[Moonglow]

mostly fdr and wilson. both wars started by dems

Started by dems...WWI started in 1914, war was already in progress.....
WWII, already started by Axis powers...

Which one did the dems start now?

 

[hangover]

Carter's mistake was trusting the Jews to make peace with the Palestinians.

But the U.S. involvement goes all the way back to WWI, and breaking treaties with all the different Muslim countries, which has created the hatred of the Muslim world against the west.
That hatred was carved in stone when Palestine was taken from the Muslims and given to the Jews IN 1948.
The U.S. efforts to be the world dictator has cost Americans more trillions of dollars than the national debt. And the whole world knows the mess it's made, which has created even more resentment by the rest of the world. And that has created the desire for Russia, China and Islam to rule the world and take power from the U.S.

 

[Theowl32]

Carter's mistake was trusting the Jews to make peace with the Palestinians.

But the U.S. involvement goes all the way back to WWI, and breaking treaties with all the different Muslim countries, which has created the hatred of the Muslim world against the west.
That hatred was carved in stone when Palestine was taken from the Muslims and given to the Jews IN 1948.
The U.S. efforts to be the world dictator has cost Americans more trillions of dollars than the national debt. And the whole world knows the mess it's made, which has created even more resentment by the rest of the world. And that has created the desire for Russia, China and Islam to rule the world and take power from the U.S.

On ignore you bag of shit.

 

[Obiwan]

Carter's mistake was trusting the Jews to make peace with the Palestinians.

But the U.S. involvement goes all the way back to WWI, and breaking treaties with all the different Muslim countries, which has created the hatred of the Muslim world against the west.
That hatred was carved in stone when Palestine was taken from the Muslims and given to the Jews IN 1948.
The U.S. efforts to be the world dictator has cost Americans more trillions of dollars than the national debt. And the whole world knows the mess it's made, which has created even more resentment by the rest of the world. And that has created the desire for Russia, China and Islam to rule the world and take power from the U.S.

Wrong.... Carter's mistake was working with groups engaged in terrorist activities... And the groups that succeeded them are now are engaged in war crimes by using unguided missiles banned under international law....

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

Carter's? The western world has been fucking up the Middle East since the early 20th century.

 

[ClosedCaption]

BOOOOOSH...

 

[hangover]

Carter's mistake was trusting the Jews to make peace with the Palestinians.

But the U.S. involvement goes all the way back to WWI, and breaking treaties with all the different Muslim countries, which has created the hatred of the Muslim world against the west.
That hatred was carved in stone when Palestine was taken from the Muslims and given to the Jews IN 1948.
The U.S. efforts to be the world dictator has cost Americans more trillions of dollars than the national debt. And the whole world knows the mess it's made, which has created even more resentment by the rest of the world. And that has created the desire for Russia, China and Islam to rule the world and take power from the U.S.

Wrong.... Carter's mistake was working with groups engaged in terrorist activities... And the groups that succeeded them are now are engaged in war crimes by using unguided missiles banned under international law....

The U.S. government called Native Americans terrorists as they stole their land, just like the Jews do to the Palestinians. The Muslims won't capitulate the way the Native Americans did.

 

[there4eyeM]

Carter? Isn't that the only US President to obtain a peace treaty between Israel and an Arab enemy?

 

[Obiwan]

BOOOOOSH...

 

[Obiwan]

Carter's mistake was trusting the Jews to make peace with the Palestinians.

But the U.S. involvement goes all the way back to WWI, and breaking treaties with all the different Muslim countries, which has created the hatred of the Muslim world against the west.
That hatred was carved in stone when Palestine was taken from the Muslims and given to the Jews IN 1948.
The U.S. efforts to be the world dictator has cost Americans more trillions of dollars than the national debt. And the whole world knows the mess it's made, which has created even more resentment by the rest of the world. And that has created the desire for Russia, China and Islam to rule the world and take power from the U.S.

Wrong.... Carter's mistake was working with groups engaged in terrorist activities... And the groups that succeeded them are now are engaged in war crimes by using unguided missiles banned under international law....

The U.S. government called Native Americans terrorists as they stole their land, just like the Jews do to the Palestinians. The Muslims won't capitulate the way the Native Americans did.

Actually, Israel has offered to end the conflict.... All the Palestinians have to do is recognize Israel's right to even exist after being recognized by the UN.... Apparently the Palestinian terrorists have another agenda, though.....

2013 14 Israeli Palestinian peace talks - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

During the course of negotiations, Netanyahu followed the precedent of Israel's former Prime Minister Ehud Olmert[53] and made recognition of Israel as a Jewish state a requirement for peace. Some news sources falsely reported that Netanyahu was the first Israeli Prime Minister to make such a requirement.[54] Urging Abbas to recognize Israel as the Jewish-nation state, he reportedly said:

'it's time for the Palestinians to stop denying history. Just as Israel is prepared to recognize a Palestinian state, the Palestinian leadership must be prepared to recognize the Jewish state. In doing so you will tell your people that, though we have a territorial dispute, Israel's right to exist is beyond dispute. You would finally make it clear that you are truly prepared to end the conflict."[55]

 

[longknife]

I'm re-writing my Cold War novel and Carter's stupidity keeps showing up in the historical sequences included.

His first blunder was his lying and deceitful treatment of the Shah. He might have been cruel and dictatorial, but that's all that works in the region. He was literally dragging Iran out of the 8th century, trying to bring other Middle Eastern nations along with him

The Peanut Farmer left the door wide open to the radicals, not only in Iran but in Egypt and Iraq.

Almost every single problem we have in the region dates from Carter.

 

[Moonglow]

Carter? Isn't that the only US President to obtain a peace treaty between Israel and an Arab enemy?

Why yes it is...To a rightly only bombs make peace.

 

[BlindBoo]

Background: Oil

If the chief natural resource of the Middle East were bananas, the region would not have attracted the attention of U.S. policymakers as it has for decades. Americans became interested in the oil riches of the region in the 1920s, and two U.S. companies, Standard Oil of California and Texaco, won the first concession to explore for oil in Saudi Arabia in the 1930s. They discovered oil there in 1938, just after Standard Oil of California found it in Bahrain. The same year Gulf Oil (along with its British partner Anglo-Persian Oil) found oil in Kuwait. During and after World War II, the region became a primary object of U.S. foreign policy. It was then that policymakers realized that the Middle East was "a stupendous source of strategic power, and one of the greatest material prizes in world history."[4]

Subsequently, as a result of cooperation between the U.S. government and several American oil companies, the United States replaced Great Britain as the chief Western power in the region.[5] In Iran and Saudi Arabia, American gains were British (and French) losses.[6] Originally, the dominant American oil interests had had limited access to Iraqi oil only (through the Iraq Petroleum Company, under the 1928 Red Line Agreement). In 1946, however, Standard Oil of New Jersey and Mobil Oil Corp., seeing the irresistible opportunities in Saudi Arabia, had the agreement voided.[7] When the awakening countries of the Middle East asserted control over their oil resources, the United States found ways to protect its access to the oil. Nearly everything the United States has done in the Middle East can be understood as contributing to the protection of its long-term access to Middle Eastern oil and, through that control, Washington's claim to world leadership. The U.S. build-up of Israel and Iran as powerful gendarmeries beholden to the United States, and U.S. aid given to "moderate," pro-Western Arab regimes, such as those in Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, and Jordan, were intended to keep the region in friendly hands. That was always the meaning of the term "regional stability."[8]

http://object.cato.org/sites/cato.org/files/pubs/pdf/pa159.pdf