Would you support a presidential candidate who held that biblical law superceded the Constitution?

[RetiredGySgt]

I don't think you understand that those words did not mean what they mean now. But then no one EVER accused you of being smart, now did they?

 

[rdean]

I don't think you understand that those words did not mean what they mean now. But then no one EVER accused you of being smart, now did they?

Go ahead. Explain. I'm all ears:

 

[thanatos144]

Here is a representative of thanatos and his far right social cons above.

Hey fakey why you posting selfies?

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[bravoactual]

Re another thread here regarding a presidential candidate that held a particular religion superceded the Constitution. My own view is there is no religion that supercedes the Constitution.

If all the RWer's out there that in purple faced rage over the very thought of "Sharia Law", knew that is exactly what biblical law means....they would shut the hell up.

 

[thanatos144]

Re another thread here regarding a presidential candidate that held a particular religion superceded the Constitution. My own view is there is no religion that supercedes the Constitution.

If all the RWer's out there that in purple faced rage over the very thought of "Sharia Law", knew that is exactly what biblical law means....they would shut the hell up.

If I dummy progressives would stop talking about shit they know nothing about maybe they will learn something. ... who am I kidding you can't teach zombies to think

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[MarathonMike]

Separation of Church and State always, no matter what the Church.

 

[thanatos144]

Separation of Church and State always, no matter what the Church.

Where again is that in the Constitution?

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[guno]

Oh, by the way:

Our Declaration of Independence is based off of these verses, which acknowledge and teach the value of objective moral values, fixed standards, absolute truth, and the sanctity of all life.

Exodus 20:1-17
Deuteronomy 30:19
Psalm 119:142-152
Proverbs 14:34
Isaiah 5:20-21
John 10:10
Romans 2:15
Hebrews 13:8

For our system of checks and balances, they are based on the principle that all men are sinners:

Genesis 8:21
Jeremiah 17:9
Mark 7:20-23
Romans 3:23
1 John 1:8

For wisdom on the three branches of government, the Judicial, Executive and Legislative see Isaiah 33:22

Religious freedom as stated in the First Amendment can be found in 1 Timothy 2:1-2

Separation of Church from State:

Deuteronomy 17:18-20
1 Kings 3:28
Ezra 7:24
Nehemiah 8:2
1 Samuel 7:15, 10:27, and 15:10-31
2 Samuel 12:1-18
Matthew 14:3-4
Luke 3:7-14 and 11:52
Acts 4:26-29

Article IV of the Constitution, which guarantees a Republican form of Government to all the states is based off of these verses:

Exodus 18:21
Deuteronomy 1:13
Judges 8:22-23
1 Samuel 8
Proverbs 11:14 and 24:6

The First, Second, Ninth, and Tenth Amendments all stress the importance of governing oneself and his family, as the first level of governance and are based off of these verses:

Matthew 18:15-18
Galatians 5:16-26
1 Corinthians 6:1-11
1 Timothy 3:1-5
Titus 2:1-8

The Fifth Amendment grants the right to life, liberty, and property, and is based off of Exodus 20:15-17


The Sixth Amendment grants a fair trial to those tried in our justice system, and is based off of these verses:

Exodus 20:16
Deuteronomy 19:15
Proverbs 24:28 and 25:18
Matthew 18:16

You are really fuked in the head and uneducated to claim that

Unlike most governments of the past, the American Founding Fathers set up a government divorced from any religion. Their establishment of a secular government did not require a reflection to themselves of its origin; they knew this as a ubiquitous unspoken given. However, as the United States delved into international affairs, few foreign nations knew about the intentions of the U.S. For this reason, an insight from at a little known but legal document written in the late 1700s explicitly reveals the secular nature of the U.S. goverenment to a foreign nation. Officially called the "Treaty of peace and friendship between the United States of America and the Bey and Subjects of Tripoli, of Barbary," most refer to it as simply the Treaty of Tripoli. In Article 11, it states:

"As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion; as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion, or tranquillity, of Musselmen; and as the said States never have entered into any war or act of hostility against any Mehomitan nation, it is declared by the parties that no pretext arising from religious opinions shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries.

The preliminary treaty began with a signing on 4 November, 1796 (the end of George Washington's last term as president). Joel Barlow, the American diplomat served as counsel to Algiers and held responsibility for the treaty negotiations. Barlow had once served under Washington as a chaplain in the revolutionary army. He became good friends with Paine, Jefferson, and read Enlightenment literature. Later he abandoned Christian orthodoxy for rationalism and became an advocate of secular government. Joel Barlow wrote the original English version of the treaty, including Amendment 11. Barlow forwarded the treaty to U.S. legislators for approval in 1797. Timothy Pickering, the secretary of state, endorsed it and John Adams concurred (now during his presidency), sending the document on to the Senate. The Senate approved the treaty on June 7, 1797, and officially ratified by the Senate with John Adams signature on 10 June, 1797. All during this multi-review process, the wording of Article 11 never raised the slightest concern. The treaty even became public through its publication in The Philadelphia Gazette on 17 June 1797.

So here we have a clear admission by the United States in 1797 that our government did not found itself upon Christianity.

 

[thanatos144]

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[guno]

Oh, by the way:

Our Declaration of Independence is based off of these verses, which acknowledge and teach the value of objective moral values, fixed standards, absolute truth, and the sanctity of all life.

Exodus 20:1-17
Deuteronomy 30:19
Psalm 119:142-152
Proverbs 14:34
Isaiah 5:20-21
John 10:10
Romans 2:15
Hebrews 13:8

For our system of checks and balances, they are based on the principle that all men are sinners:

Genesis 8:21
Jeremiah 17:9
Mark 7:20-23
Romans 3:23
1 John 1:8

For wisdom on the three branches of government, the Judicial, Executive and Legislative see Isaiah 33:22

Religious freedom as stated in the First Amendment can be found in 1 Timothy 2:1-2

Separation of Church from State:

Deuteronomy 17:18-20
1 Kings 3:28
Ezra 7:24
Nehemiah 8:2
1 Samuel 7:15, 10:27, and 15:10-31
2 Samuel 12:1-18
Matthew 14:3-4
Luke 3:7-14 and 11:52
Acts 4:26-29

Article IV of the Constitution, which guarantees a Republican form of Government to all the states is based off of these verses:

Exodus 18:21
Deuteronomy 1:13
Judges 8:22-23
1 Samuel 8
Proverbs 11:14 and 24:6

The First, Second, Ninth, and Tenth Amendments all stress the importance of governing oneself and his family, as the first level of governance and are based off of these verses:

Matthew 18:15-18
Galatians 5:16-26
1 Corinthians 6:1-11
1 Timothy 3:1-5
Titus 2:1-8

The Fifth Amendment grants the right to life, liberty, and property, and is based off of Exodus 20:15-17


The Sixth Amendment grants a fair trial to those tried in our justice system, and is based off of these verses:

Exodus 20:16
Deuteronomy 19:15
Proverbs 24:28 and 25:18
Matthew 18:16

You are really fuked in the head and uneducated to claim that

Unlike most governments of the past, the American Founding Fathers set up a government divorced from any religion. Their establishment of a secular government did not require a reflection to themselves of its origin; they knew this as a ubiquitous unspoken given. However, as the United States delved into international affairs, few foreign nations knew about the intentions of the U.S. For this reason, an insight from at a little known but legal document written in the late 1700s explicitly reveals the secular nature of the U.S. goverenment to a foreign nation. Officially called the "Treaty of peace and friendship between the United States of America and the Bey and Subjects of Tripoli, of Barbary," most refer to it as simply the Treaty of Tripoli. In Article 11, it states:

"As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion; as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion, or tranquillity, of Musselmen; and as the said States never have entered into any war or act of hostility against any Mehomitan nation, it is declared by the parties that no pretext arising from religious opinions shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries.

The preliminary treaty began with a signing on 4 November, 1796 (the end of George Washington's last term as president). Joel Barlow, the American diplomat served as counsel to Algiers and held responsibility for the treaty negotiations. Barlow had once served under Washington as a chaplain in the revolutionary army. He became good friends with Paine, Jefferson, and read Enlightenment literature. Later he abandoned Christian orthodoxy for rationalism and became an advocate of secular government. Joel Barlow wrote the original English version of the treaty, including Amendment 11. Barlow forwarded the treaty to U.S. legislators for approval in 1797. Timothy Pickering, the secretary of state, endorsed it and John Adams concurred (now during his presidency), sending the document on to the Senate. The Senate approved the treaty on June 7, 1797, and officially ratified by the Senate with John Adams signature on 10 June, 1797. All during this multi-review process, the wording of Article 11 never raised the slightest concern. The treaty even became public through its publication in The Philadelphia Gazette on 17 June 1797.

So here we have a clear admission by the United States in 1797 that our government did not found itself upon Christianity.

Document Proclaims Secular Government

A few Christian fundamentalists attempt to convince us to return to the Christianity of early America, yet according to the historian, Robert T. Handy, “No more than 10 percent– probably less– of Americans in 1800 were members of congregations.”

The Founding Fathers, also, rarely practiced Christian orthodoxy. Although they supported the free exercise of any religion, they understood the dangers of religion. Most of them believed in deism and attended Freemasonry lodges. According to John J. Robinson, “Freemasonry had been a powerful force for religious freedom.” Freemasons took seriously the principle that men should worship according to their own conscience. Masonry welcomed anyone from any religion or non-religion, as long as they believed in a Supreme Being. Washington, Franklin, Hancock, Hamilton, Lafayette, and many others accepted Freemasonry.
Document Proclaims Secular Government - Archiving Early America

 

[JakeStarkey]

Separation of Church and State always, no matter what the Church.

Where again is that in the Constitution?

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If you can't understand it, I can't explain it.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

Re another thread here regarding a presidential candidate that held a particular religion superceded the Constitution. My own view is there is no religion that supercedes the Constitution.

Agreed

 

[thanatos144]

Separation of Church and State always, no matter what the Church.

Where again is that in the Constitution?

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If you can't understand it, I can't explain it. [emoji38]

Fakey ..... go find it in the Constitution. Go boy. Fetch

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[JakeStarkey]

Separation of Church and State always, no matter what the Church.

Where again is that in the Constitution?

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If you can't understand it, I can't explain it. [emoji38]

Fakey ..... go find it in the Constitution. Go boy. Fetch

Yep, you don't understand.

 

[bravoactual]

Re another thread here regarding a presidential candidate that held a particular religion superceded the Constitution. My own view is there is no religion that supercedes the Constitution.

If all the RWer's out there that in purple faced rage over the very thought of "Sharia Law", knew that is exactly what biblical law means....they would shut the hell up.

If I dummy progressives would stop talking about shit they know nothing about maybe they will learn something. ... who am I kidding you can't teach zombies to think

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Your a "dummy progressive".....admitting your a dummy is the first step.

Biblical Law by any other name is Sharia Law.

 

[thanatos144]

Re another thread here regarding a presidential candidate that held a particular religion superceded the Constitution. My own view is there is no religion that supercedes the Constitution.

If all the RWer's out there that in purple faced rage over the very thought of "Sharia Law", knew that is exactly what biblical law means....they would shut the hell up.

If I dummy progressives would stop talking about shit they know nothing about maybe they will learn something. ... who am I kidding you can't teach zombies to think

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Your a "dummy progressive".....admitting your a dummy is the first step.

Biblical Law by any other name is Sharia Law.

No it isn't. Now go learn why. .... your brand of bigotry is sad

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[Kondor3]

Non-believers have an easy choice...

However...

Within the domain of Believers, which dominates?

1. God's laws

...or...

2. Man's laws?

 

[JakeStarkey]

Re another thread here regarding a presidential candidate that held a particular religion superceded the Constitution. My own view is there is no religion that supercedes the Constitution.

If all the RWer's out there that in purple faced rage over the very thought of "Sharia Law", knew that is exactly what biblical law means....they would shut the hell up.

If I dummy progressives would stop talking about shit they know nothing about maybe they will learn something. ... who am I kidding you can't teach zombies to think

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Your a "dummy progressive".....admitting your a dummy is the first step.

Biblical Law by any other name is Sharia Law.

No it isn't. Now go learn why. .... your brand of bigotry is sad

Why, yes, yes, it is.

 

[rdean]

I don't think you understand that those words did not mean what they mean now. But then no one EVER accused you of being smart, now did they?

OK, if they mean something different now, then how do you know God hates gays? How are you able to pick and choose?

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This is Jesus talking directly to Timothy:

1 Timothy 6:1-2 NLT
Christians who are slaves should give their masters full respect so that the name of God and his teaching will not be shamed. If your master is a Christian, that is no excuse for being disrespectful. You should work all the harder because you are helping another believer by your efforts. Teach these truths, Timothy, and encourage everyone to obey them.

True, this isn't coming directly from Jesus, but it is in the Bible. Worse, remember what Jesus said about punishing slaves in Luke 12:47-48 NLT.

Ephesians 6:5 NLT
Slaves, obey your earthly masters with deep respect and fear. Serve them sincerely as you would serve Christ.

As far as rape goes:

Deuteronomy 22:28-29 NLT
If a man is caught in the act of raping a young woman who is not engaged, he must pay fifty pieces of silver to her father. Then he must marry the young woman because he violated her, and he will never be allowed to divorce her.

But that's not the only mention of rape. Go take a look at:
Numbers 31:7-18 NLT
Deuteronomy 20:10-14

and don't forget this one:
Deuteronomy 22:23-24 NAB
Death to the rape victim.

The list goes on.

Everyone knows Leviticus 19:19 and Deuteronomy 22:9-11. And the ban on wearing two types of fabric.

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That's the problem the right wing. When confronted with the actual facts, they suddenly say it means something else. Only it doesn't.

I went to a Catholic School. We had to read the Bible as actual assignments. Right wingers are so anti education, it's unsure whether they learned to read or not. In fact, I know a Republican and we were discussing the Bible. I told him about some of these things that are said and he said I'm a liar. I asked him why he's saying that. He says he doesn't need to read the Bible because his pastor tells him what it says and he never mentioned this stuff. What do you say to that? It's compete and willful ignorance. How many USMB members are like that?????

 

[rdean]

Re another thread here regarding a presidential candidate that held a particular religion superceded the Constitution. My own view is there is no religion that supercedes the Constitution.

If all the RWer's out there that in purple faced rage over the very thought of "Sharia Law", knew that is exactly what biblical law means....they would shut the hell up.

If I dummy progressives would stop talking about shit they know nothing about maybe they will learn something. ... who am I kidding you can't teach zombies to think

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Your a "dummy progressive".....admitting your a dummy is the first step.

Biblical Law by any other name is Sharia Law.

No it isn't. Now go learn why. .... your brand of bigotry is sad

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Perhaps you should read post 139 and explain where it's wrong? Explain how those Bible quotes differ.