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Except the government haha.Okay, whatever, but I'm not interested in hearing an outsiders opinion regarding our gun rights.
Just sayin'.
No one's putting a gun to your head.
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Except the government haha.
You know the same one that I assume you want to have threaten its own population for wanting to protect them selves.
"I'm gonna gonna protect you from violence with guns unless you have a gun and you want to protect yourself in which case I will protect you from you using the gun from me with a gun by using a gun."
sorry the irony is funny.
me and 2aguy tried discussing this logically but you never even tried to refute our points so I might as well join you in venting emotion and kick debate to the curb.[
Except the government haha.
You know the same one that I assume you want to have threaten its own population for wanting to protect them selves.
"I'm gonna gonna protect you from violence with guns unless you have a gun and you want to protect yourself in which case I will protect you from you using the gun from me with a gun by using a gun."
sorry the irony is funny.
Yeah, that's how it goes <rolls eyes>
The only variable that can explain the high rate of mass shootings in America is its astronomical number of guns.
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Americans make up about 4.4 percent of the global population but own 42 percent of the world’s guns. From 1966 to 2012, 31 percent of the gunmen in mass shootings worldwide were American.
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Rather, they found, in data that has since been repeatedly confirmed, that American crime is simply more lethal. A New Yorker is just as likely to be robbed as a Londoner, for instance, but the New Yorker is 54 times more likely to be killed in the process.
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Switzerland has the second-highest gun ownership rate of any developed country, about half that of the United States. Its gun homicide rate in 2004 was 7.7 per million people — unusually high, in keeping with the relationship between gun ownership and murders, but still a fraction of the rate in the United States.
Swiss gun laws are more stringent, setting a higher bar for securing and keeping a license, for selling guns and for the types of guns that can be owned. Such laws reflect more than just tighter restrictions. They imply a different way of thinking about guns, as something that citizens must affirmatively earn the right to own.
The United States is one of only three countries, along with Mexico and Guatemala, that begin with the opposite assumption: that people have an inherent right to own guns.
“In retrospect Sandy Hook marked the end of the US gun control debate,” Dan Hodges, a British journalist, wrote in a post on Twitter two years ago. “Once America decided killing children was bearable, it was over.”
What Explains U.S. Mass Shootings? International Comparisons Suggest an Answer
Americans make up about 4.4 percent of the global population but own 42 percent of the world’s guns. From 1966 to 2012, 31 percent of the gunmen in mass shootings worldwide were American.
And if there was strict gun control , fugitive and criminal Americans would own 98% of the guns in America and the "normal" people would be essentially defenseless.
It must almost make you choke on your own bile that a country with a population 1/10th the size of the US is much more universally respected and liked than the joke that has been the US for the past 8 months. What’s it like having a running joke as a president? Only in America I guess. And no, I’m not a Canuck…
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A Brit then? At least Elton John picked a winning country to side with. Philadelphia Freedom !!!!
Obama's weakness has turned the world into chaos.
Truth is, the world LAUGHED at Obama and his moronic weakness.
So you're a jealous outsider, probably benefiting in some way off of American taxpayers hard work, condemning a man who wants to strengthen American and put American interests first. I see.
Well, I would guess that putting America first puts your greased behind and your gimmies at risk and THAT is your real problem with America AND Donald Trump.
I really have no sympathy whatsoever for imbeciles who threaten my personal freedom with their personal whiney ass unfounded gun fears and abject ignorance on topics of the wisdom of the founding fathers and mothers.
These are people who are such incredible , on their knees boot lickers that have absolutely no idea what they are begging for.
Even with the modern and ongoing example of Venezuela right before their eyes.
Ignorant fools in exponential magnitudes
I really have no sympathy whatsoever for imbeciles who threaten my personal freedom with their personal whiney ass unfounded gun fears and abject ignorance on topics of the wisdom of the founding fathers and mothers.
These are people who are such incredible , on their knees boot lickers that have absolutely no idea what they are begging for.
Even with the modern and ongoing example of Venezuela right before their eyes.
Ignorant fools in exponential magnitudes
Personal freedom is so over rated.
And I don't mean your simplistic view of it either. You want personal freedom, go live on an isolated island. See how that suits you. Humans are, in the most part, community minded people. They live in communities - whether as a family tribe in the Amazon jungle, or one of 10+ million in greater NY - whether you like it or not. There has to be compromise if we are to get along. If not, as I said, fuck off and go live on an island.
You hit your limit of criticism real fast.I really have no sympathy whatsoever for imbeciles who threaten my personal freedom with their personal whiney ass unfounded gun fears and abject ignorance on topics of the wisdom of the founding fathers and mothers.
These are people who are such incredible , on their knees boot lickers that have absolutely no idea what they are begging for.
Even with the modern and ongoing example of Venezuela right before their eyes.
Ignorant fools in exponential magnitudes
Personal freedom is so over rated.
And I don't mean your simplistic view of it either. You want personal freedom, go live on an isolated island. See how that suits you. Humans are, in the most part, community minded people. They live in communities - whether as a family tribe in the Amazon jungle, or one of 10+ million in greater NY - whether you like it or not. There has to be compromise if we are to get along. If not, as I said, fuck off and go live on an island.
You hit your limit of criticism real fast.
If you truly have this way of thinking then you literally scare me. How can you disregard human choice so little?
I really have no sympathy whatsoever for imbeciles who threaten my personal freedom with their personal whiney ass unfounded gun fears and abject ignorance on topics of the wisdom of the founding fathers and mothers.
These are people who are such incredible , on their knees boot lickers that have absolutely no idea what they are begging for.
Even with the modern and ongoing example of Venezuela right before their eyes.
Ignorant fools in exponential magnitudes
Personal freedom is so over rated.
And I don't mean your simplistic view of it either. You want personal freedom, go live on an isolated island. See how that suits you. Humans are, in the most part, community minded people. They live in communities - whether as a family tribe in the Amazon jungle, or one of 10+ million in greater NY - whether you like it or not. There has to be compromise if we are to get along. If not, as I said, fuck off and go live on an island.
comparing the idea that someone doesn't want the government in a particular "not all" area of their lives controlled to the desire to live by ones self on an island is insane. People who value Personal freedom still want social interactions of course! no one said that any instruction from another person is worth isolation from others you are making a straw man.
So we want the same things. But the devil is in the details.
Prove to me that politicians can make better decisions for families than the family themselves and I will honestly take your points of view and sleep on it.comparing the idea that someone doesn't want the government in a particular "not all" area of their lives controlled to the desire to live by ones self on an island is insane. People who value Personal freedom still want social interactions of course! no one said that any instruction from another person is worth isolation from others you are making a straw man.
So we want the same things. But the devil is in the details.
Prove to me that politicians can make better decisions for families than the family themselves and I will honestly take your points of view and sleep on it.
Make me a believer in the all powerful state.
The only variable that can explain the high rate of mass shootings in America is its astronomical number of guns.
<snip>
Americans make up about 4.4 percent of the global population but own 42 percent of the world’s guns. From 1966 to 2012, 31 percent of the gunmen in mass shootings worldwide were American.
<snip>
Rather, they found, in data that has since been repeatedly confirmed, that American crime is simply more lethal. A New Yorker is just as likely to be robbed as a Londoner, for instance, but the New Yorker is 54 times more likely to be killed in the process.
<snip>
Switzerland has the second-highest gun ownership rate of any developed country, about half that of the United States. Its gun homicide rate in 2004 was 7.7 per million people — unusually high, in keeping with the relationship between gun ownership and murders, but still a fraction of the rate in the United States.
Swiss gun laws are more stringent, setting a higher bar for securing and keeping a license, for selling guns and for the types of guns that can be owned. Such laws reflect more than just tighter restrictions. They imply a different way of thinking about guns, as something that citizens must affirmatively earn the right to own.
The United States is one of only three countries, along with Mexico and Guatemala, that begin with the opposite assumption: that people have an inherent right to own guns.
“In retrospect Sandy Hook marked the end of the US gun control debate,” Dan Hodges, a British journalist, wrote in a post on Twitter two years ago. “Once America decided killing children was bearable, it was over.”
What Explains U.S. Mass Shootings? International Comparisons Suggest an Answer
It ain't the lone gunmen that we have to fear it is those who recommend we turn in our guns. You know, like Nazi Germany or any other tyrannical government that is afraid of its own citizens because they are individuals that are armed acting in concert with the mindset to thwart constrictions on individual freedom...... Freedom is not free. We have paid for our freedom in blood and must be able to defend it from government, criminals, crime syndicates, gangs, etc. That is what the 2nd amendment is all about. Citizens protecting their own freedom. It's really basic.
