You gotta give Trump credit for being able to admit military defeat and go home

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How do they define victory?

We no longer fight to victory. Victory is going there, killing everyone and imposing our ideas on a different people. That works.

We fight with the idea that someday the enemy will change their minds. That doesn't work.
 
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How do they define victory?

We no longer fight to victory. Victory is going there, killing everyone and imposing our ideas on a different people. That works.

We fight with the idea that someday the enemy will change their minds. That doesn't work.

Yep. Go in kill the enemy. Knock the buildings down. Declare victory and go home.

Let them rebuild. Who cares about their hearts and minds. I sure don't
 
And Obama essentially played out an already lost war for 8 years. And give Biden some credit for opposing Hillary's direct military intervention to nation build for just keeping some Seal Teams on standby with a whole lot of Hellfire missiles and drones.

Another neocon defeat brought to you by W, Cheney, et al.

As Trump administration negotiates peace with Taliban, some retired U.S. generals see defeat
I definitely wouldn't accuse Trump of cutting and running because he decided to get out of both Afghanistan and Iraq....we should have long been out of Afghanistan and never should have been in Iraq
 
How do they define victory?

We no longer fight to victory. Victory is going there, killing everyone and imposing our ideas on a different people. That works.

We fight with the idea that someday the enemy will change their minds. That doesn't work.

Yep. Go in kill the enemy. Knock the buildings down. Declare victory and go home.

Let them rebuild. Who cares about their hearts and minds. I sure don't
and hopefully after we do all that, they will be our allies and stuff......and we won't have to worry about creating any new generations of terrorists
 
As with North Vietnam more than 50 years ago, the Taliban will patiently wait for the Americans to leave, however long it takes.

Such is GWB's failed, illegal war.
A shit-ton of your precious democrats threw in with that disaster, hack....Now....

STFUdonnyjpg.jpg
 
As with North Vietnam more than 50 years ago, the Taliban will patiently wait for the Americans to leave, however long it takes.

Such is GWB's failed, illegal war.
A shit-ton of your precious democrats threw in with that disaster, hack....Now....

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Who wanted more American soldiers to die when it became apparent Iraq had no WMD’s? How many people did you call ”soldier hating traitors” for wanting to bring them home?
 
And Obama essentially played out an already lost war for 8 years. And give Biden some credit for opposing Hillary's direct military intervention to nation build for just keeping some Seal Teams on standby with a whole lot of Hellfire missiles and drones.

Another neocon defeat brought to you by W, Cheney, et al.

As Trump administration negotiates peace with Taliban, some retired U.S. generals see defeat
I definitely wouldn't accuse Trump of cutting and running because he decided to get out of both Afghanistan and Iraq....we should have long been out of Afghanistan and never should have been in Iraq
EXCUSE ME! Trump's done nothing but flop on Iraq and Syria. You don't get credit for being for it before you're against it. He is cutting and running, but that's his trade mark.

Donald Trump and the Iraq War - FactCheck.org

Trump launches Syria flip-flops

If you want to argue we never should have been in Iraq or Syria fine. I have no idea what you thought in 2003 or 2017
 
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Who wanted more American soldiers to die when it became apparent Iraq had no WMD’s? How many people did you call ”soldier hating traitors” for wanting to bring them home?
How many young boys were killed in Afghanistan, while your dear Boiking fiddled for eight years, chump?

Oh, that right....More than under Chimpy Bush.
Too many. His biggest mistake was not completely abandoning the middle east. Too bad he was handed a disaster. Thank goodness McCain and Romney lost or we could have added countless deaths in Iraq to that number.
 
How do they define victory?

We no longer fight to victory. Victory is going there, killing everyone and imposing our ideas on a different people. That works.

We fight with the idea that someday the enemy will change their minds. That doesn't work.
We do not agree often but I am with ya on this one! I am with Trump getting us out of there too.
 
Who wanted more American soldiers to die when it became apparent Iraq had no WMD’s? How many people did you call ”soldier hating traitors” for wanting to bring them home?
How many young boys were killed in Afghanistan, while your dear Boiking fiddled for eight years, chump?

Oh, that right....More than under Chimpy Bush.
Too many. His biggest mistake was not completely abandoning the middle east. Too bad he was handed a disaster. Thank goodness McCain and Romney lost or we could have added countless deaths in Iraq to that number.
Obama is cut from the same cloth as those assholes.
 
Who wanted more American soldiers to die when it became apparent Iraq had no WMD’s? How many people did you call ”soldier hating traitors” for wanting to bring them home?
How many young boys were killed in Afghanistan, while your dear Boiking fiddled for eight years, chump?

Oh, that right....More than under Chimpy Bush.
Too many. His biggest mistake was not completely abandoning the middle east. Too bad he was handed a disaster. Thank goodness McCain and Romney lost or we could have added countless deaths in Iraq to that number.
Obama is cut from the same cloth as those assholes.
If that were true we would never have left Iraq and we would have invaded Syria
 
As with North Vietnam more than 50 years ago, the Taliban will patiently wait for the Americans to leave, however long it takes.

Such is GWB's failed, illegal war.
A shit-ton of your precious democrats threw in with that disaster, hack....Now....

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Who wanted more American soldiers to die when it became apparent Iraq had no WMD’s? How many people did you call ”soldier hating traitors” for wanting to bring them home?


Yet you gleefully now trust the intelligence agencies which got it wrong when it came to Iraq.

STFU
 
Who wanted more American soldiers to die when it became apparent Iraq had no WMD’s? How many people did you call ”soldier hating traitors” for wanting to bring them home?
How many young boys were killed in Afghanistan, while your dear Boiking fiddled for eight years, chump?

Oh, that right....More than under Chimpy Bush.
Too many. His biggest mistake was not completely abandoning the middle east. Too bad he was handed a disaster. Thank goodness McCain and Romney lost or we could have added countless deaths in Iraq to that number.


You're a dumb fuck. I bet any amount of money that you voted for Hillary the Hawk Clinton in 2016, that bitch loves her some war.
 
If that were true we would never have left Iraq and we would have invaded Syria
There are troops in Syria, aren't there?

Who helped topple Mubarak?

Who said; "We came, we saw, he's dead"?

Who gave money, weapons, and training to both the Muzzy Brotherhood and ISIS?

Who let men die in Benghazi, in order to hide their failed arms deals?

Yeah, Oboingo was totally different! :rolleyes:
 
As with North Vietnam more than 50 years ago, the Taliban will patiently wait for the Americans to leave, however long it takes.

Such is GWB's failed, illegal war.
A shit-ton of your precious democrats threw in with that disaster, hack....Now....

View attachment 244798
Who wanted more American soldiers to die when it became apparent Iraq had no WMD’s? How many people did you call ”soldier hating traitors” for wanting to bring them home?


Yet you gleefully now trust the intelligence agencies which got it wrong when it came to Iraq.

STFU
Of course I trust the intelligence agencies. Their superiors in the Dubya admin were desperate for war, not the intelligence agencies. I certainly don’t trust a reality TV celebrity with zero experience or knowledge anout anything over them.
 

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