You think getting 6 months in Jail for rape is bad?

[SwimExpert]

That's false. Part of a lawyer's job is to gauge whether their client has or hasn't committed the crime in question, and from there, get them a fair trial and sentence based on that.

Actually, what you're suggesting is the kind of thing that would get a lawyer disbarred.

 

[Pumpkin Row]

What country do you live in? It's not the defense attorney's role to determine the clients guilt or innocence, that's what the trial is for. The defense attorney is there to provide the best legal defense possible. It certainly CAN help in the defenses strategy if the defense attorney does in fact know the clients guilt or innocence but it doesn't change the attorneys role at all. If we ran our legal system the way you suggest nobody in their right mind would trust their defense attorney.

You're misunderstanding, he doesn't determine it in the way a judge does, like, officially. He tries to get them the fairest trial possible, in the sense that he determines what fair is from what he observed.

"Old Benny" was in fact arguing that every defendant deserves a presumption of innocence which doesn't happen unless his/her legal counsel provides the most vigorous defense possible. If a "criminal walks" it's because the prosecution did not prove guilt beyond a reasonable doubt either via the efforts & competency of the defense OR via the incompetence of the prosecution OR a combination of the two.

The Defense Attorney, like the Prosecution, is supposed to ensure justice is served. Part of that is awareness. If something goes wrong, then Defense Attorney also needs to make sure that a criminal isn't let back out onto the streets to hurt someone else.

 

[SwimExpert]

You're misunderstanding, he doesn't determine it in the way a judge does, like, officially. He tries to get them the fairest trial possible, in the sense that he determines what fair is from what he observed.

 

[Timmy]

Clinton defended the guy. She didn't decide the sentence .

 

[Pumpkin Row]

Clinton defended the guy. She didn't decide the sentence .

Defending someone is part of deciding the sentence. So, the Judge and Prosecutor share the blame with her.

 

[Evesbodyman]

According to Odium, when he tells his defense attorney he's guilty, the attorney is just supposed to reach into his desk for a gun and kill him on the spot.

That would be a job with a very high satisfaction rating.

 

[NightFox]

What country do you live in? It's not the defense attorney's role to determine the clients guilt or innocence, that's what the trial is for. The defense attorney is there to provide the best legal defense possible. It certainly CAN help in the defenses strategy if the defense attorney does in fact know the clients guilt or innocence but it doesn't change the attorneys role at all. If we ran our legal system the way you suggest nobody in their right mind would trust their defense attorney.

You're misunderstanding, he doesn't determine it in the way a judge does, like, officially. He tries to get them the fairest trial possible, in the sense that he determines what fair is from what he observed.

"Old Benny" was in fact arguing that every defendant deserves a presumption of innocence which doesn't happen unless his/her legal counsel provides the most vigorous defense possible. If a "criminal walks" it's because the prosecution did not prove guilt beyond a reasonable doubt either via the efforts & competency of the defense OR via the incompetence of the prosecution OR a combination of the two.

The Defense Attorney, like the Prosecution, is supposed to ensure justice is served. Part of that is awareness. If something goes wrong, then Defense Attorney also needs to make sure that a criminal isn't let back out onto the streets to hurt someone else.

You're confused, rather than try once again to clarify it for you maybe this link can clear up your confusion regarding the role of the defense attorney:

Lawyer Thinks Client is Guilty: Does It Matter? Criminal Law Process | Nolo.com

Enjoy.

 

[Evesbodyman]

Clinton defended the guy. She didn't decide the sentence .

Defending someone is part of deciding the sentence. So, the Judge and Prosecutor share the blame with her.

The crime lab and the DA share all the blame. They destroyed the evidence. No evidence, no case. Pretty simple actually.

 

[Timmy]

I heard Ben Carson operated on the guys heart. He should've let him die .

The guy also won $1000 at Trumps casino . Trump should've fixed it so he lost .

 

[Pumpkin Row]

You're confused, rather than try once again to clarify it for you maybe this link can clear up your confusion regarding the role of the defense attorney:

Lawyer Thinks Client is Guilty: Does It Matter? Criminal Law Process | Nolo.com

Enjoy.

It makes sense now, you were right. Thank you for correcting me.

 

[Preacher]

Clinton defended the guy. She didn't decide the sentence .

Defense lawyers ALWAYS want the least sentence for their clients.

 

[Evesbodyman]

Clinton defended the guy. She didn't decide the sentence .

Defense lawyers ALWAYS want the least sentence for their clients.

And what's wrong with that?

 

[theDoctorisIn]

I don't get it, Is this guy suggesting that the defense attorney is supposed to try and get his/her client MORE jail time? This whole attack on Clinton is idiotic, all it demonstrates is that she was a good defense attorney, there are far more valid lines of character attack on the Queen of Corruption.

Actually, a defense attorney is supposed to get/ensure their client a fair trial, not keep criminals on the streets.

No, that's the Judge's job. The defense attorney's job is to win.

This is the foundation of our legal system.

 

[theDoctorisIn]

You can't seriously claim to stand for women's rights when you LAUGHED about child rape and ADMITTED you knew he was guilty. She could have not taken the case or claimed a conflict there...All politicians are scumbags but she takes the cake. You want to defend a scumbag child rapist fine but don't then claim that ALL sexual assault victims deserve to be heard and then say all your husbands assault victims were liars and bimbos and the 12 year old rape victim of your client FANTASIZED about older men!

She didn't have to avoid taking the case, either. I've visited law firms, and met many lawyers, and they understand that a lawyer's job is to get their client a fair trial, not to keep them from being punished for their crimes. Part of being a lawyer is having a conscience, and being able to judge what your client has or hasn't done, and based on that, being able to get them the right sentence for their crimes. People who let their clients walk when they've clearly committed a crime are not real lawyers, they're just good examples of some of the worst qualities in the human race.

Your comments suggest that you've never actually talked to a trial lawyer.

A lawyer's job is not to "judge" their client's guilt.

They can choose whether to take a case or not, but once they take a case, they are morally and legally obligated to provide the best counsel possible.

 

[NLT]

Bill Clinton did not do anytime for rape

 

[theDoctorisIn]

Clinton defended the guy. She didn't decide the sentence .

Defense lawyers ALWAYS want the least sentence for their clients.

Of course. That's their job.

 

[Anathema]

I don't get it, Is this guy suggesting that the defense attorney is supposed to try and get his/her client MORE jail time? This whole attack on Clinton is idiotic, all it demonstrates is that she was a good defense attorney, there are far more valid lines of character attack on the Queen of Corruption.

This is why some of us have little to no respect for Defense Attorneys. I understand how the system works but that's not how it SHOULD work.

An attorney who knows their client is guilty SHOULD be expected to make a plea deal with the DA for a fair and appropriate sentence that doesn't over-punish the criminal.

 

[Evesbodyman]

Clinton defended the guy. She didn't decide the sentence .

Defense lawyers ALWAYS want the least sentence for their clients.

Of course. That's their job.

He says it like its a bad thing.

To his simple mind it must be.

 

[Evesbodyman]

I don't get it, Is this guy suggesting that the defense attorney is supposed to try and get his/her client MORE jail time? This whole attack on Clinton is idiotic, all it demonstrates is that she was a good defense attorney, there are far more valid lines of character attack on the Queen of Corruption.

This is why some of us have little to no respect for Defense Attorneys. I understand how the system works but that's not how it SHOULD work.

An attorney who knows their client is guilty SHOULD be expected to make a plea deal with the DA for a fair and appropriate sentence that doesn't over-punish the criminal.

Not their job.

 

[SwimExpert]

I don't get it, Is this guy suggesting that the defense attorney is supposed to try and get his/her client MORE jail time? This whole attack on Clinton is idiotic, all it demonstrates is that she was a good defense attorney, there are far more valid lines of character attack on the Queen of Corruption.

This is why some of us have little to no respect for Defense Attorneys. I understand how the system works but that's not how it SHOULD work.

An attorney who knows their client is guilty SHOULD be expected to make a plea deal with the DA for a fair and appropriate sentence that doesn't over-punish the criminal.

Then you don't understand how the system works.