Young Libertarians Aim to Be Players in 2014 Elections

[longknife]

Group looks to harness Ron Paul momentum to back midterm candidates.

How much of a role will they play? Can they gather more than young voters – perhaps the over 50s who're getting slammed by Obama's policies? Read more @ Young Libertarians Aim to Be Players in 2014 Elections - US News

 

[O.R.I.O.N]

More like cost republicans elections like they did in Va. WITH DEMOCRATS BACKING.

 

[O.R.I.O.N]

Young Americans for Liberty LMAO...only if you are rich is it liberty...for the poor its fucking horrible to run things the way they want them run.

 

[The Rabbi]

Libertarianism is popular on internet chat boards. In the real world no one cares about them and they suck at attracting votes. Their prime use seems to be to get Democrats elected.

 

[1776]

Losertarians are liberals in disguise.

 

[longknife]

I read an article this morning that stressed the idea that youths like this first had to become deeply involved in local political movements first.

Attend local board/commission meetings - informed and ready to contribute.
Join political groups of choice at the precinct level. Become involved, volunteer, and participate.
Get candidates on the ballots at the local and state levels.

Only when there are Independents/conservatives at the local and state levels will such a movement succeed.

 

[nodoginnafight]

I read an article this morning that stressed the idea that youths like this first had to become deeply involved in local political movements first.

Attend local board/commission meetings - informed and ready to contribute.
Join political groups of choice at the precinct level. Become involved, volunteer, and participate.
Get candidates on the ballots at the local and state levels.

Only when there are Independents/conservatives at the local and state levels will such a movement succeed.

I agree 100%. The biggest problem with virtually every "third party" movement is that they try to start at the top. They run candidates for president only.

A wise person once said, "all politics are local."

The only way a "Third Party" (yeah, I realize there are about 50 of 'em) is going to make a real impact is to do exactly as you say. Build from the ground up.

As much as I would like to see at least one more viable political party in the U.S., I won't see it in my lifetime.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Losertarians are liberals in disguise.

Kids for legal drugs and prostitution? Bring 'em on.

 

[bendog]

I read an article this morning that stressed the idea that youths like this first had to become deeply involved in local political movements first.

Attend local board/commission meetings - informed and ready to contribute.
Join political groups of choice at the precinct level. Become involved, volunteer, and participate.
Get candidates on the ballots at the local and state levels.

Only when there are Independents/conservatives at the local and state levels will such a movement succeed.

I've read, and found, that the millennials distrust govts ability to affect anything meaningful, and choose different avenues to effectuate things. Both organized parties have gone out of their way to disillusion them. In fact, while I'd normally prefer suicide to voting for Obama, I thought he'd do just that superbly, so I voted for him against Hill, safe in the realization that even if Jesus Christ himself came back and told Mississippi to elect Obama, he wasn't carrying this state.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

I read an article this morning that stressed the idea that youths like this first had to become deeply involved in local political movements first.

Attend local board/commission meetings - informed and ready to contribute.
Join political groups of choice at the precinct level. Become involved, volunteer, and participate.
Get candidates on the ballots at the local and state levels.

Only when there are Independents/conservatives at the local and state levels will such a movement succeed.

I've read, and found, that the millennials distrust govts ability to affect anything meaningful, and choose different avenues to effectuate things. Both organized parties have gone out of their way to disillusion them. In fact, while I'd normally prefer suicide to voting for Obama, I thought he'd do just that superbly, so I voted for him against Hill, safe in the realization that even if Jesus Christ himself came back and told Mississippi to elect Obama, he wasn't carrying this state.

One in ten whites voted for Obama there. Wait until they find out Jesus was a brother?

 

[Disir]

Group looks to harness Ron Paul momentum to back midterm candidates.

How much of a role will they play? Can they gather more than young voters – perhaps the over 50s who're getting slammed by Obama's policies? Read more @ Young Libertarians Aim to Be Players in 2014 Elections - US News

These are their strategic partners from their website:
Strategic Partners | Young Americans for Liberty

So, the agenda is no different.

This is merely targeting a younger audience with a different type of propaganda for the same agenda. This will boil down to whether you agree with the agenda or not.

 

[TakeAStepBack]

Libertarianism is popular on internet chat boards. In the real world no one cares about them and they suck at attracting votes. Their prime use seems to be to get Democrats elected.

What you mean is that libertarians want to elect people with similar values to them (and conservatives in many instances) who plan to act on those values rather than elect a republican who talks like a conservative/libertarian and then acts like a modern day progressive socialist.

Thats the point, dude. If you can not put forth viable candidates, you will lose elections.

BTW, it's ratehr funny to see sucha stark contradiction in your statement. In the real world, no one cares about libertarians, but they area powerful group that can get democrats elected.

 

[nodoginnafight]

I think there are six or seven Libertarian mayors in the U.S.
I think they should focus on getting a few state legislators into office.
But that's just an outsiders view.

 

[Steven_R]

The biggest issue I have with e-Libertarians is just how divorced from reality they are on economic issues when they intersect with historical events. They can quote long dead philosophers, but can't really explain how they would fix various problems without falling back on the "free market" without realizing that the "free market" created many of the those problems in the first place. They bitch about government intervention in the form of stuff like the EPA and USDA, but never quite realize that it was companies dumping stuff in rivers and selling rotten food and never policing themselves that led to normal folks demanding government do something if the free market can't/won't.

 

[Steven_R]

I think there are six or seven Libertarian mayors in the U.S.
I think they should focus on getting a few state legislators into office.
But that's just an outsiders view.

I wonder how many of those mayors ran on a platform of getting rid of fire departments and city parks and public libraries because the free market can do it better, versus how many ran on keeping what we have but getting rid of deadwood in city hall.

 

[nodoginnafight]

I think there are six or seven Libertarian mayors in the U.S.
I think they should focus on getting a few state legislators into office.
But that's just an outsiders view.

I wonder how many of those mayors ran on a platform of getting rid of fire departments and city parks and public libraries because the free market can do it better, versus how many ran on keeping what we have but getting rid of deadwood in city hall.

Well, I didn't really want to "go negative" here, but I kinda agree with where you are going. Libertarianism is every bit as Utopian and unworkable in the real world as communism.

Both depend upon people to "do the right thing" regardless of self interest.

Ain't gonna happen. Unfortunately, you have to have the carrots and the sticks.

 

[TakeAStepBack]

The biggest issue I have with e-Libertarians is just how divorced from reality they are on economic issues when they intersect with historical events. They can quote long dead philosophers, but can't really explain how they would fix various problems without falling back on the "free market" without realizing that the "free market" created many of the those problems in the first place. They bitch about government intervention in the form of stuff like the EPA and USDA, but never quite realize that it was companies dumping stuff in rivers and selling rotten food and never policing themselves that led to normal folks demanding government do something if the free market can't/won't.

Nonsense. It is government meddling and planning that has caused the problems. Can you give an example of where the free market failed?

This should be good.

 

[Steven_R]

Don't get me wrong. I'm all for limited government, but I also understand that the free market has serious flaws, namely in that it relies on human beings. The fatal variable in communism is that it involves people and the libertarian ideal is more of the that. There are certain things that government should do or at least provide oversight for the free market to do. The trick is in finding that balance and making sure government doesn't bloat due to mission creep.

 

[Steven_R]

The biggest issue I have with e-Libertarians is just how divorced from reality they are on economic issues when they intersect with historical events. They can quote long dead philosophers, but can't really explain how they would fix various problems without falling back on the "free market" without realizing that the "free market" created many of the those problems in the first place. They bitch about government intervention in the form of stuff like the EPA and USDA, but never quite realize that it was companies dumping stuff in rivers and selling rotten food and never policing themselves that led to normal folks demanding government do something if the free market can't/won't.

Nonsense. It is government meddling and planning that has caused the problems. Can you give an example of where the free market failed?

This should be good.

The Panic of 1907. Any of the abuses of miners and millhands like not providing safety equipment. Dumping of pollution into waterways and the air because companies didn't feel like paying for clean up.

 

[nodoginnafight]

The biggest issue I have with e-Libertarians is just how divorced from reality they are on economic issues when they intersect with historical events. They can quote long dead philosophers, but can't really explain how they would fix various problems without falling back on the "free market" without realizing that the "free market" created many of the those problems in the first place. They bitch about government intervention in the form of stuff like the EPA and USDA, but never quite realize that it was companies dumping stuff in rivers and selling rotten food and never policing themselves that led to normal folks demanding government do something if the free market can't/won't.

Nonsense. It is government meddling and planning that has caused the problems. Can you give an example of where the free market failed?

This should be good.

How about the industrial revolution in the U.S. from about 1850 to about 1920.

It's like they have never seen a history book ....

But I've been through this debate enough and I know what it sounds like. Revisionist history and wistfully daydreaming about "the golden days of yore"