Zelensky Stuns Allies by Demanding Either NATO Membership or Nuclear Weapons

Great. When will you pack your stuff and leave for your shores?

Why would I do that? America has everything I've always wanted and everything I need. I'm a property-owner with a home, 100 acres of land, and a mortgage.

The one and only time I've ever set foot in a foreign country was when I spent a couple hours in Tijuana, Mexico in 1968. That was more of the rest of the world than I cared to see.
 
He's a madman, a mad midget.

It's as though his handler , Richard Moore head of MI6 ,has handed him his redundancy package details and told him that this is his exit narrative -- and no discussion .

If correct , our Mad Midget will initially have puffed his little chest and been pleased .
Only later will he have realised that he is sacked and redundant .

His own military now detest him , so when he goes somebody might be invited to shoot him in his testicles as small repayment for the destruction of all of those Ukrainian ones he has destroyed .

Estimate of Ukey dead now at least 750 000 .
Many think much higher .
 
Why would I do that? America has everything I've always wanted and everything I need. I'm a property-owner with a home, 100 acres of land, and a mortgage.

The one and only time I've ever set foot in a foreign country was when I spent a couple hours in Tijuana, Mexico in 1968. That was more of the rest of the world than I cared to see.
Actually, I meant American troops in Europe and state-funded agencies.

100 acres? It is slightly more than 40 hectares. What do you use it for?
 
Actually, I meant American troops in Europe and state-funded agencies.

100 acres? It is slightly more than 40 hectares. What do you use it for?

It's all wooded and hilly, so mostly hunting.
 
No spots for vegetables, fruit trees or farm animals?

There's a good spot of flat land across the creek, but my gardening skills suck. We're usually out doing stuff in the Spring and Summer and I'd have to pay someone with a tractor to come till it up.

Maybe next year. :laughing0301:
 
There's a good spot of flat land across the creek, but my gardening skills suck. We're usually out doing stuff in the Spring and Summer and I'd have to pay someone with a tractor to come till it up.

Maybe next year. :laughing0301:
Depends on what the size of the spot is and what you want to grow there. It may be you wouldn't need a tractor at all.
 
Depends on what the size of the spot is and what you want to grow there. It may be you wouldn't need a tractor at all.

It's pretty weedy there. Aside from burning the weeds and catching everything else on fire, my poor tiller would have a tough time breaking the ground.
 
It's pretty weedy there. Aside from burning the weeds and catching everything else on fire, my poor tiller would have a tough time breaking the ground.
Yeah, if that land wasn't cultivated before it will take some time and effort to get it in order.
 
As he assumed command of NATO forces in Europe in 1951, General of the Armies Dwight D. Eisenhower uttered prophetic words of caution: “If in 10 years, all American troops stationed in Europe for national defense purposes have not been returned to the United States, then this whole project will have failed.” We still have a quarter million there and promise more. This was when Presidents were allowed to speak freely, perhaps the last one, and we still fought wars to end them. He also informed us about unwanted influence from the MIC, which the media has erased from memory. Nato and the UN are just vehicles to make US aggression seem innocent and somehow responsive. Remember that all history for us begins with an "attack" to which we respond for the next 50 years.
 
He's a madman, a mad midget.

The West has hitched its wagon to this loon. Of course, the money-laundering is the real reason so many in the West are shoveling money and weapons to this absurd man, to this lunatic.

Now, this insanity on top of everything else.

And those so-called Ukrainian nukes were actually Russian nukes that the dumbass Russians left behind.


Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky, having received a lackluster response when he pitched his ‘victory plan’ to US officials in Washington last month, now says that Ukraine must either join NATO or obtain nuclear weapons.​
He made the ultra provocative comments while speaking before the EU’s European Council in Brussels, where he presented the victory plan before European lawmakers. That’s when he referenced a recent private conversation with Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump, saying he told Trump that his country needs “some kind of alliance” or be “forced to pursue nuclear weapons.”​
“In a conversation with Donald Trump I said – this is our situation: What way out do we have? Either Ukraine will have nuclear weapons, which for us will be a defense, or we’ll need to have some sort of alliance, besides NATO. But today we know of no other alliance,” Zelensky said.​
“NATO countries today are not at war. NATO countries are not fighting. In NATO countries people are still alive. Thank God. That is why we choose NATO, not nuclear weapons. And Donald Trump heard me. He said you have a just argument,” he continued.​
At one point in these comments he referenced this historic Budapest Memorandum, a 1994 agreement where Ukraine agreed to give up its nuclear arsenal from Soviet times in exchange for security guarantees from Russia, the US, and UK.​
He also emphasized in a rhetorical question, “Which nuclear states suffered? None except Ukraine… Who gave up their nuclear weapons? All of them? No. Only Ukraine… Who is fighting today? Ukraine.”​
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Neither will happen because Garbage *Joe can’t get ten percent from either.
 
Why would I do that? America has everything I've always wanted and everything I need. I'm a property-owner with a home, 100 acres of land, and a mortgage.

The one and only time I've ever set foot in a foreign country was when I spent a couple hours in Tijuana, Mexico in 1968. That was more of the rest of the world than I cared to see.
Did you catch the donkey show while you were there?
 
Why would I do that? America has everything I've always wanted and everything I need. I'm a property-owner with a home, 100 acres of land, and a mortgage.
As it stands now, and we can somehow continue ownership despite the WEF and green agendas. If you think you "own" something ( land, home, auto, farm implement etc) stop paying personal property taxes on it and see who the real owners are.
 
Did you catch the donkey show while you were there?

Actually I spent $30 in a back room in a bar with a Meskin senorita. Some burly guy tried to shake me down for more money afterward, but I didn't have any. He also took the switchblade I bought earlier, it wasn't like I was going to argue with him.

Not something I'm really proud of. :laughing0301:
 
Cool. So when Missouri secedes, we get to keep the nukes???

Out-fucking-standing!

Cuz we have a lot.

The problem is the west got them to give up the nukes for assurances of their territory. Assurances that are now broken.
 
Yesterday's summary .
Essentially the UAF has collapsed.
The Mad Midget has nothing in reserve and commands a big fat zero .

Only NATO has the possibility of holding up Dear Uncle P, though if he risks crossing the Dneiper now and heads toward Odessa he just needs a slice of good fortune and not too hard a winterto be successful .

NATO cannot do much before March/April in terms of quantity and quality support and that might be too late for a war where the fighting has ceased .





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Our source in the OP said that Bankova began discussing the format of freezing the war along the contact line, due to the collapse of the front in Donbas. Ukraine now needs an operational pause to prepare new reserves and accumulate equipment, which is why Zelensky demanded that the West adopt a victory plan that no one will implement.
 
He's a madman, a mad midget.

The West has hitched its wagon to this loon. Of course, the money-laundering is the real reason so many in the West are shoveling money and weapons to this absurd man, to this lunatic.

Now, this insanity on top of everything else.

And those so-called Ukrainian nukes were actually Russian nukes that the dumbass Russians left behind.


Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky, having received a lackluster response when he pitched his ‘victory plan’ to US officials in Washington last month, now says that Ukraine must either join NATO or obtain nuclear weapons.​
He made the ultra provocative comments while speaking before the EU’s European Council in Brussels, where he presented the victory plan before European lawmakers. That’s when he referenced a recent private conversation with Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump, saying he told Trump that his country needs “some kind of alliance” or be “forced to pursue nuclear weapons.”​
“In a conversation with Donald Trump I said – this is our situation: What way out do we have? Either Ukraine will have nuclear weapons, which for us will be a defense, or we’ll need to have some sort of alliance, besides NATO. But today we know of no other alliance,” Zelensky said.​
“NATO countries today are not at war. NATO countries are not fighting. In NATO countries people are still alive. Thank God. That is why we choose NATO, not nuclear weapons. And Donald Trump heard me. He said you have a just argument,” he continued.​
At one point in these comments he referenced this historic Budapest Memorandum, a 1994 agreement where Ukraine agreed to give up its nuclear arsenal from Soviet times in exchange for security guarantees from Russia, the US, and UK.​
He also emphasized in a rhetorical question, “Which nuclear states suffered? None except Ukraine… Who gave up their nuclear weapons? All of them? No. Only Ukraine… Who is fighting today? Ukraine.”​
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He forgets about the other parts of the deal when Ukraine gave up their nukes, like NATO not moving and inch to the East
 
Actually I spent $30 in a back room in a bar with a Meskin senorita. Some burly guy tried to shake me down for more money afterward, but I didn't have any. He also took the switchblade I bought earlier, it wasn't like I was going to argue with him.

Not something I'm really proud of. :laughing0301:
It’s good to be young!
 
NATO, looks best for the rest of the world,
Maybe RUSSIA would stop attacking & destroying small neighbor country's close to their borders.
 

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