2014 On Track To Be Hottest Year On Record

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As the graph says, the trend since 1992 is 3.2 mm/yr. The trend since 2011, however, looks closer to 19 mm/yr. With no further acceleration, that would give us over 5'4" of sea level rise by 2100.
 
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As the graph says, the trend since 1992 is 3.2 mm/yr. The trend since 2011, however, looks closer to 19 mm/yr. With no further acceleration, that would give us over 5'4" of sea level rise by 2100.
mm... lol why not change the chart to micro meters and make it over a few months? That way you can show it going almost straight up :)
 
I do see why deniers have such a strong incentive to deny the reality of sea level rise, no matter how crazy or stupid it makes them look. The current fast sea level rise can't be explained by anything other than global warming. If they admit to sea level rise, they admit to global warming, and the whole basis for their cult falls apart.
 
I do see why deniers have such a strong incentive to deny the reality of sea level rise, no matter how crazy or stupid it makes them look. The current fast sea level rise can't be explained by anything other than global warming. If they admit to sea level rise, they admit to global warming, and the whole basis for their cult falls apart.
Yep, you can. We know because people aren't moving away from the coast, instead they are moving closer. But hey, you stay in Alice's playland, you're having a ball I can tell.
 
And Alaska is unusually warm, as are many other parts of the planet. Last November was the hottest November on record globally; last April was tied with April 2010 as the hottest April on record; this last May and June and August and September and now October were all the hottest respective months on record. Globally, the world just experienced the hottest 12 month period or 'year', from September 2013 to October 2014, since at least the beginning of instrumental temperature records, and very probably, according to the proxy temperature records that scientists have studied, for many thousands of years. A slightly early cold snap in North America, driven by a very unusual storm in the North Pacific, is not the big deal you deniers try to make it and basically has no significance to the overall rapid warming of the entire planet that has been scientifically observed over the last century or so, but particularly since the 1970s.
Someone who does not understand how the earths climatic systems work..
Hey thanks, BoobyBobNutJob, for so clearly and accurately identifying yourself right at the start of your post.....it lets everybody know where you're coming from right off the bat....you nailed your condition exactly...




What is so hard about paradoxical presentations and cooling you cant grasp?
What is you can't grasp about the clear and overwhelming evidence that the Earth is warming up because mankind's fossil fuel use has increased CO2 levels by 43% so far (and heading for a doubling within decades)? Why are you acting like such a brainwashed retard?

You really are totally fucking clueless.. Empirical evidence says NO to your CO2 monster and i have shown you over and over that lie is exposed. You really are a clueless marxist piece of work..
You have no evidence, retard, "empirical" or otherwise. All you've got are your moldy old denier cult myths and the moronic pseudo-science bullshit you scrape off of denier cult blogs and astroturfed fossil fuel industry propaganda outlets. All of the lying drivel you post gets immediately debunked with the facts, but you're too much of a brainwashed troll to admit that.

Did the oceans swallow up Florida yet? Did the north pole melt yet? ROFL you libtards are so funny.
Did anyone ever claim that the oceans would have swallowed up Florida by now. No. Just starting to happen by now - yes. Rising sea levels are already impacting Florida, as most of the residents are well aware, even if most of the rightwingnut politicians are in denial.

And yeah, nutbagger, the North Pole has melted enormously, no matter what crackpot myths and lies you've moronically fallen for.

Miami Finds Itself Ankle-Deep in Climate Change Debate
The New York Times
By CORAL DAVENPORT
MAY 7, 2014
JPCLIMATE-master675.jpg

Scenes of street flooding, like this one on Alton Road in Miami Beach in November, are becoming increasingly common. Credit - Angel Valentin for The New York Times

MIAMI BEACH — The sunny-day flooding was happening again. During high tide one recent afternoon, Eliseo Toussaint looked out the window of his Alton Road laundromat and watched bottle-green saltwater seep from the gutters, fill the street and block the entrance to his front door.

“This never used to happen,” Mr. Toussaint said. “I’ve owned this place eight years, and now it’s all the time.”

Down the block at an electronics store it is even worse. Jankel Aleman, a salesman, keeps plastic bags and rubber bands handy to wrap around his feet when he trudges from his car to the store through ever-rising waters.

A new scientific report on global warming released this week, the National Climate Assessment, named Miami as one of the cities most vulnerable to severe damage as a result of rising sea levels. Alton Road, a commercial thoroughfare in the heart of stylish South Beach, is getting early ripples of sea level rise caused by global warming — even as Florida’s politicians, including two possible contenders for the presidency in 2016, are starkly at odds over what to do about it and whether the problem is even real.

“The theme of the report is that climate change is not a future thing, it’s a ‘happening-now’ thing,” said Leonard Berry, a contributing author of the new report and director of the Florida Center for Environmental Studies at Florida Atlantic University. “Alton Road is one of the now things.”

Sea levels have risen eight inches since 1870, according to the new report, which projects a further rise of one to four feet by the end of the century. Waters around southeast Florida could surge up to two feet by 2060, according to a report by the Southeast Florida Regional Climate Compact. A study by the Florida Department of Transportation concluded that over the next 35 years, rising sea levels will increasingly flood and damage smaller local roads in the Miami area.

The national climate report found that although rapidly melting Arctic ice is threatening the entire American coastline, Miami is exceptionally vulnerable because of its unique geology. The city is built on top of porous limestone, which is already allowing the rising seas to soak into the city’s foundation, bubble up through pipes and drains, encroach on fresh water supplies and saturate infrastructure. County governments estimate that the damages could rise to billions or even trillions of dollars.

The world will get serious about dealing with climate change only when the seas begin to flood the beachside homes of the rich and powerful.

In and around Miami, local officials are grappling head on with the problem. “Sea level rise is our reality in Miami Beach,” said the city’s mayor, Philip Levine. “We are past the point of debating the existence of climate change and are now focusing on adapting to current and future threats.” In the face of encroaching saltwater and sunny-day flooding like that on Alton Road, Mr. Levine has supported a $400 million spending project to make the city’s drainage system more resilient in the face of rising tides.

But while local politicians can take action to shore up their community against the rising tide, they are powerless to stop what scientists say is the heart of the problem: the increasing fossil fuel emissions that continue to warm the planet. Scientists say that the scale of emission reductions necessary to prevent the most dangerous effects of global warming can only come as a result of national and international policies to cut carbon pollution.

In particular, climate experts say, national policies to tax or regulate carbon pollution are required by the world’s top emitters, chiefly the United States and China. Such efforts have to date met a wave of political opposition in Congress — bills aimed at putting a price on carbon pollution have repeatedly failed. President Obama plans to use his executive authority to issue a regulation that would cut carbon pollution from coal-fired power plants, but Republicans, who call the rule a “War on Coal,” want to overturn it.

Senator Bill Nelson, Democrat of Florida, supports carbon-cutting efforts, even as he acknowledges that they will come with some economic cost. In April, he convened a packed hearing at the Miami Beach City Hall on the encroaching waters.

“With sea level rise, you’ve got to get to core of the problem,” Mr. Nelson said at the hearing. “You have to lessen the amount of CO2. It’s politically treacherous and costly. But at the end of the day, something like that is going to have to get passed. Otherwise the planet is going to continue to heat up.”

But three prominent Florida Republicans — Senator Marco Rubio, former Gov. Jeb Bush and the current governor, Rick Scott — declined repeated requests to be interviewed on the subject. Mr. Rubio and Mr. Bush are viewed as potential presidential candidates. Political analysts say the reluctance of the three men to speak publicly on the issue reflects an increasingly difficult political reality for Republicans grappling with the issue of climate change, particularly for the party’s lawmakers from Florida. In acknowledging the problem, politicians must endorse a solution, but the only major policy solutions to climate change — taxing or regulating the oil, gas and coal industries — are anathema to the base of the Republican Party. Thus, many Republicans, especially in Florida, appear to be dealing with the issue by keeping silent.

“Jeb likes to take positions on hot-button issues, the same with Rubio,” said Joseph E. Uscinski, a political scientist at the University of Miami. “On immigration they are further mainstream on that than the rest of the G.O.P. But on this, Republicans are dead set against taking action on climate change on the national level. If you have political aspirations, this is not something you should talk about if you want to win a Republican primary.”

Over the past year, Mr. Rubio has signaled his skepticism about the established science that fossil fuel emissions contribute to climate change. When asked in a 2013 Buzzfeed webcast interview if climate change posed a threat to Florida, Mr. Rubio responded: “The climate is always changing. The question is, is manmade activity what’s contributing most to it?” He added that “I’ve seen reasonable debate on that principle” and “if we unilaterally impose these sorts of things on our economy it would have a devastating impact.”

But in 2008, while serving in the Florida State Legislature, Mr. Rubio supported a bill directing the State Department of Environmental Protection to develop rules for companies to limit carbon emissions.

As governor from 1999 to 2007, Mr. Bush pushed several environmental initiatives, particularly efforts to protect Everglades National Park, which scientists say is highly vulnerable to encroaching seawaters. Political scientists say that Mr. Rubio’s shift and Mr. Bush’s current silence on the issue appear to reflect the position of lawmakers who are mulling transitions from the state to the national stage and the realities of satisfying their party’s base in the 2016 primaries.
 
And Alaska is unusually warm, as are many other parts of the planet. Last November was the hottest November on record globally; last April was tied with April 2010 as the hottest April on record; this last May and June and August and September and now October were all the hottest respective months on record. Globally, the world just experienced the hottest 12 month period or 'year', from September 2013 to October 2014, since at least the beginning of instrumental temperature records, and very probably, according to the proxy temperature records that scientists have studied, for many thousands of years. A slightly early cold snap in North America, driven by a very unusual storm in the North Pacific, is not the big deal you deniers try to make it and basically has no significance to the overall rapid warming of the entire planet that has been scientifically observed over the last century or so, but particularly since the 1970s.
Someone who does not understand how the earths climatic systems work..
Hey thanks, BoobyBobNutJob, for so clearly and accurately identifying yourself right at the start of your post.....it lets everybody know where you're coming from right off the bat....you nailed your condition exactly...




What is so hard about paradoxical presentations and cooling you cant grasp?
What is you can't grasp about the clear and overwhelming evidence that the Earth is warming up because mankind's fossil fuel use has increased CO2 levels by 43% so far (and heading for a doubling within decades)? Why are you acting like such a brainwashed retard?

You really are totally fucking clueless.. Empirical evidence says NO to your CO2 monster and i have shown you over and over that lie is exposed. You really are a clueless marxist piece of work..
You have no evidence, retard, "empirical" or otherwise. All you've got are your moldy old denier cult myths and the moronic pseudo-science bullshit you scrape off of denier cult blogs and astroturfed fossil fuel industry propaganda outlets. All of the lying drivel you post gets immediately debunked with the facts, but you're too much of a brainwashed troll to admit that.

Did the oceans swallow up Florida yet? Did the north pole melt yet? ROFL you libtards are so funny.
Did anyone ever claim that the oceans would have swallowed up Florida by now. No. Just starting to happen by now - yes. Rising sea levels are already impacting Florida, as most of the residents are well aware, even if most of the rightwingnut politicians are in denial.

And yeah, nutbagger, the North Pole has melted enormously, no matter what crackpot myths and lies you've moronically fallen for.

Miami Finds Itself Ankle-Deep in Climate Change Debate
The New York Times
By CORAL DAVENPORT
MAY 7, 2014
JPCLIMATE-master675.jpg

Scenes of street flooding, like this one on Alton Road in Miami Beach in November, are becoming increasingly common. Credit - Angel Valentin for The New York Times

MIAMI BEACH — The sunny-day flooding was happening again. During high tide one recent afternoon, Eliseo Toussaint looked out the window of his Alton Road laundromat and watched bottle-green saltwater seep from the gutters, fill the street and block the entrance to his front door.

“This never used to happen,” Mr. Toussaint said. “I’ve owned this place eight years, and now it’s all the time.”

Down the block at an electronics store it is even worse. Jankel Aleman, a salesman, keeps plastic bags and rubber bands handy to wrap around his feet when he trudges from his car to the store through ever-rising waters.

A new scientific report on global warming released this week, the National Climate Assessment, named Miami as one of the cities most vulnerable to severe damage as a result of rising sea levels. Alton Road, a commercial thoroughfare in the heart of stylish South Beach, is getting early ripples of sea level rise caused by global warming — even as Florida’s politicians, including two possible contenders for the presidency in 2016, are starkly at odds over what to do about it and whether the problem is even real.

“The theme of the report is that climate change is not a future thing, it’s a ‘happening-now’ thing,” said Leonard Berry, a contributing author of the new report and director of the Florida Center for Environmental Studies at Florida Atlantic University. “Alton Road is one of the now things.”

Sea levels have risen eight inches since 1870, according to the new report, which projects a further rise of one to four feet by the end of the century. Waters around southeast Florida could surge up to two feet by 2060, according to a report by the Southeast Florida Regional Climate Compact. A study by the Florida Department of Transportation concluded that over the next 35 years, rising sea levels will increasingly flood and damage smaller local roads in the Miami area.

The national climate report found that although rapidly melting Arctic ice is threatening the entire American coastline, Miami is exceptionally vulnerable because of its unique geology. The city is built on top of porous limestone, which is already allowing the rising seas to soak into the city’s foundation, bubble up through pipes and drains, encroach on fresh water supplies and saturate infrastructure. County governments estimate that the damages could rise to billions or even trillions of dollars.

The world will get serious about dealing with climate change only when the seas begin to flood the beachside homes of the rich and powerful.

In and around Miami, local officials are grappling head on with the problem. “Sea level rise is our reality in Miami Beach,” said the city’s mayor, Philip Levine. “We are past the point of debating the existence of climate change and are now focusing on adapting to current and future threats.” In the face of encroaching saltwater and sunny-day flooding like that on Alton Road, Mr. Levine has supported a $400 million spending project to make the city’s drainage system more resilient in the face of rising tides.

But while local politicians can take action to shore up their community against the rising tide, they are powerless to stop what scientists say is the heart of the problem: the increasing fossil fuel emissions that continue to warm the planet. Scientists say that the scale of emission reductions necessary to prevent the most dangerous effects of global warming can only come as a result of national and international policies to cut carbon pollution.

In particular, climate experts say, national policies to tax or regulate carbon pollution are required by the world’s top emitters, chiefly the United States and China. Such efforts have to date met a wave of political opposition in Congress — bills aimed at putting a price on carbon pollution have repeatedly failed. President Obama plans to use his executive authority to issue a regulation that would cut carbon pollution from coal-fired power plants, but Republicans, who call the rule a “War on Coal,” want to overturn it.

Senator Bill Nelson, Democrat of Florida, supports carbon-cutting efforts, even as he acknowledges that they will come with some economic cost. In April, he convened a packed hearing at the Miami Beach City Hall on the encroaching waters.

“With sea level rise, you’ve got to get to core of the problem,” Mr. Nelson said at the hearing. “You have to lessen the amount of CO2. It’s politically treacherous and costly. But at the end of the day, something like that is going to have to get passed. Otherwise the planet is going to continue to heat up.”

But three prominent Florida Republicans — Senator Marco Rubio, former Gov. Jeb Bush and the current governor, Rick Scott — declined repeated requests to be interviewed on the subject. Mr. Rubio and Mr. Bush are viewed as potential presidential candidates. Political analysts say the reluctance of the three men to speak publicly on the issue reflects an increasingly difficult political reality for Republicans grappling with the issue of climate change, particularly for the party’s lawmakers from Florida. In acknowledging the problem, politicians must endorse a solution, but the only major policy solutions to climate change — taxing or regulating the oil, gas and coal industries — are anathema to the base of the Republican Party. Thus, many Republicans, especially in Florida, appear to be dealing with the issue by keeping silent.

“Jeb likes to take positions on hot-button issues, the same with Rubio,” said Joseph E. Uscinski, a political scientist at the University of Miami. “On immigration they are further mainstream on that than the rest of the G.O.P. But on this, Republicans are dead set against taking action on climate change on the national level. If you have political aspirations, this is not something you should talk about if you want to win a Republican primary.”

Over the past year, Mr. Rubio has signaled his skepticism about the established science that fossil fuel emissions contribute to climate change. When asked in a 2013 Buzzfeed webcast interview if climate change posed a threat to Florida, Mr. Rubio responded: “The climate is always changing. The question is, is manmade activity what’s contributing most to it?” He added that “I’ve seen reasonable debate on that principle” and “if we unilaterally impose these sorts of things on our economy it would have a devastating impact.”

But in 2008, while serving in the Florida State Legislature, Mr. Rubio supported a bill directing the State Department of Environmental Protection to develop rules for companies to limit carbon emissions.

As governor from 1999 to 2007, Mr. Bush pushed several environmental initiatives, particularly efforts to protect Everglades National Park, which scientists say is highly vulnerable to encroaching seawaters. Political scientists say that Mr. Rubio’s shift and Mr. Bush’s current silence on the issue appear to reflect the position of lawmakers who are mulling transitions from the state to the national stage and the realities of satisfying their party’s base in the 2016 primaries.
hahahaahahaahhahahahaahhahaha...................................hahaahhahahahahahhahaahhahaahaa, It's ashame you don't know what weather is. I'm not surprised though. Keep it up, I enjoy the comedy! :lmao::lmao:
 
So jc is now claiming that sunny weather is the factor causing flooding in Miami.

The normal people, however, are pointing out that high tides there now regularly cause flooding, something that didn't happen before, and that's because rising sea levels are making the high tides higher.
 
So jc is now claiming that sunny weather is the factor causing flooding in Miami.

The normal people, however, are pointing out that high tides there now regularly cause flooding, something that didn't happen before, and that's because rising sea levels are making the high tides higher.
And yet folks keep moving there.....hmmmmmmmmm I guess they all are stupid right?
 
Hey thanks, BoobyBobNutJob, for so clearly and accurately identifying yourself right at the start of your post.....it lets everybody know where you're coming from right off the bat....you nailed your condition exactly...




What is you can't grasp about the clear and overwhelming evidence that the Earth is warming up because mankind's fossil fuel use has increased CO2 levels by 43% so far (and heading for a doubling within decades)? Why are you acting like such a brainwashed retard?

You really are totally fucking clueless.. Empirical evidence says NO to your CO2 monster and i have shown you over and over that lie is exposed. You really are a clueless marxist piece of work..
You have no evidence, retard, "empirical" or otherwise. All you've got are your moldy old denier cult myths and the moronic pseudo-science bullshit you scrape off of denier cult blogs and astroturfed fossil fuel industry propaganda outlets. All of the lying drivel you post gets immediately debunked with the facts, but you're too much of a brainwashed troll to admit that.

Did the oceans swallow up Florida yet? Did the north pole melt yet? ROFL you libtards are so funny.
Did anyone ever claim that the oceans would have swallowed up Florida by now. No. Just starting to happen by now - yes. Rising sea levels are already impacting Florida, as most of the residents are well aware, even if most of the rightwingnut politicians are in denial.

And yeah, nutbagger, the North Pole has melted enormously, no matter what crackpot myths and lies you've moronically fallen for.

Miami Finds Itself Ankle-Deep in Climate Change Debate
The New York Times
By CORAL DAVENPORT
MAY 7, 2014
JPCLIMATE-master675.jpg

Scenes of street flooding, like this one on Alton Road in Miami Beach in November, are becoming increasingly common. Credit - Angel Valentin for The New York Times

MIAMI BEACH — The sunny-day flooding was happening again. During high tide one recent afternoon, Eliseo Toussaint looked out the window of his Alton Road laundromat and watched bottle-green saltwater seep from the gutters, fill the street and block the entrance to his front door.

“This never used to happen,” Mr. Toussaint said. “I’ve owned this place eight years, and now it’s all the time.”

Down the block at an electronics store it is even worse. Jankel Aleman, a salesman, keeps plastic bags and rubber bands handy to wrap around his feet when he trudges from his car to the store through ever-rising waters.

A new scientific report on global warming released this week, the National Climate Assessment, named Miami as one of the cities most vulnerable to severe damage as a result of rising sea levels. Alton Road, a commercial thoroughfare in the heart of stylish South Beach, is getting early ripples of sea level rise caused by global warming — even as Florida’s politicians, including two possible contenders for the presidency in 2016, are starkly at odds over what to do about it and whether the problem is even real.

“The theme of the report is that climate change is not a future thing, it’s a ‘happening-now’ thing,” said Leonard Berry, a contributing author of the new report and director of the Florida Center for Environmental Studies at Florida Atlantic University. “Alton Road is one of the now things.”

Sea levels have risen eight inches since 1870, according to the new report, which projects a further rise of one to four feet by the end of the century. Waters around southeast Florida could surge up to two feet by 2060, according to a report by the Southeast Florida Regional Climate Compact. A study by the Florida Department of Transportation concluded that over the next 35 years, rising sea levels will increasingly flood and damage smaller local roads in the Miami area.

The national climate report found that although rapidly melting Arctic ice is threatening the entire American coastline, Miami is exceptionally vulnerable because of its unique geology. The city is built on top of porous limestone, which is already allowing the rising seas to soak into the city’s foundation, bubble up through pipes and drains, encroach on fresh water supplies and saturate infrastructure. County governments estimate that the damages could rise to billions or even trillions of dollars.

The world will get serious about dealing with climate change only when the seas begin to flood the beachside homes of the rich and powerful.

In and around Miami, local officials are grappling head on with the problem. “Sea level rise is our reality in Miami Beach,” said the city’s mayor, Philip Levine. “We are past the point of debating the existence of climate change and are now focusing on adapting to current and future threats.” In the face of encroaching saltwater and sunny-day flooding like that on Alton Road, Mr. Levine has supported a $400 million spending project to make the city’s drainage system more resilient in the face of rising tides.

But while local politicians can take action to shore up their community against the rising tide, they are powerless to stop what scientists say is the heart of the problem: the increasing fossil fuel emissions that continue to warm the planet. Scientists say that the scale of emission reductions necessary to prevent the most dangerous effects of global warming can only come as a result of national and international policies to cut carbon pollution.

In particular, climate experts say, national policies to tax or regulate carbon pollution are required by the world’s top emitters, chiefly the United States and China. Such efforts have to date met a wave of political opposition in Congress — bills aimed at putting a price on carbon pollution have repeatedly failed. President Obama plans to use his executive authority to issue a regulation that would cut carbon pollution from coal-fired power plants, but Republicans, who call the rule a “War on Coal,” want to overturn it.

Senator Bill Nelson, Democrat of Florida, supports carbon-cutting efforts, even as he acknowledges that they will come with some economic cost. In April, he convened a packed hearing at the Miami Beach City Hall on the encroaching waters.

“With sea level rise, you’ve got to get to core of the problem,” Mr. Nelson said at the hearing. “You have to lessen the amount of CO2. It’s politically treacherous and costly. But at the end of the day, something like that is going to have to get passed. Otherwise the planet is going to continue to heat up.”

But three prominent Florida Republicans — Senator Marco Rubio, former Gov. Jeb Bush and the current governor, Rick Scott — declined repeated requests to be interviewed on the subject. Mr. Rubio and Mr. Bush are viewed as potential presidential candidates. Political analysts say the reluctance of the three men to speak publicly on the issue reflects an increasingly difficult political reality for Republicans grappling with the issue of climate change, particularly for the party’s lawmakers from Florida. In acknowledging the problem, politicians must endorse a solution, but the only major policy solutions to climate change — taxing or regulating the oil, gas and coal industries — are anathema to the base of the Republican Party. Thus, many Republicans, especially in Florida, appear to be dealing with the issue by keeping silent.

“Jeb likes to take positions on hot-button issues, the same with Rubio,” said Joseph E. Uscinski, a political scientist at the University of Miami. “On immigration they are further mainstream on that than the rest of the G.O.P. But on this, Republicans are dead set against taking action on climate change on the national level. If you have political aspirations, this is not something you should talk about if you want to win a Republican primary.”

Over the past year, Mr. Rubio has signaled his skepticism about the established science that fossil fuel emissions contribute to climate change. When asked in a 2013 Buzzfeed webcast interview if climate change posed a threat to Florida, Mr. Rubio responded: “The climate is always changing. The question is, is manmade activity what’s contributing most to it?” He added that “I’ve seen reasonable debate on that principle” and “if we unilaterally impose these sorts of things on our economy it would have a devastating impact.”

But in 2008, while serving in the Florida State Legislature, Mr. Rubio supported a bill directing the State Department of Environmental Protection to develop rules for companies to limit carbon emissions.

As governor from 1999 to 2007, Mr. Bush pushed several environmental initiatives, particularly efforts to protect Everglades National Park, which scientists say is highly vulnerable to encroaching seawaters. Political scientists say that Mr. Rubio’s shift and Mr. Bush’s current silence on the issue appear to reflect the position of lawmakers who are mulling transitions from the state to the national stage and the realities of satisfying their party’s base in the 2016 primaries.
hahahaahahaahhahahahaahhahaha...................................hahaahhahahahahahhahaahhahaahaa, It's ashame you don't know what weather is. I'm not surprised though. Keep it up, I enjoy the comedy!
Vacuous insanity! As we've all come to expect from ol' JustCrazy, who is actually stupid enough to think that persistent increasing flooding equals "weather".
 
You really are totally fucking clueless.. Empirical evidence says NO to your CO2 monster and i have shown you over and over that lie is exposed. You really are a clueless marxist piece of work..
You have no evidence, retard, "empirical" or otherwise. All you've got are your moldy old denier cult myths and the moronic pseudo-science bullshit you scrape off of denier cult blogs and astroturfed fossil fuel industry propaganda outlets. All of the lying drivel you post gets immediately debunked with the facts, but you're too much of a brainwashed troll to admit that.

Did the oceans swallow up Florida yet? Did the north pole melt yet? ROFL you libtards are so funny.
Did anyone ever claim that the oceans would have swallowed up Florida by now. No. Just starting to happen by now - yes. Rising sea levels are already impacting Florida, as most of the residents are well aware, even if most of the rightwingnut politicians are in denial.

And yeah, nutbagger, the North Pole has melted enormously, no matter what crackpot myths and lies you've moronically fallen for.

Miami Finds Itself Ankle-Deep in Climate Change Debate
The New York Times
By CORAL DAVENPORT
MAY 7, 2014
JPCLIMATE-master675.jpg

Scenes of street flooding, like this one on Alton Road in Miami Beach in November, are becoming increasingly common. Credit - Angel Valentin for The New York Times

MIAMI BEACH — The sunny-day flooding was happening again. During high tide one recent afternoon, Eliseo Toussaint looked out the window of his Alton Road laundromat and watched bottle-green saltwater seep from the gutters, fill the street and block the entrance to his front door.

“This never used to happen,” Mr. Toussaint said. “I’ve owned this place eight years, and now it’s all the time.”

Down the block at an electronics store it is even worse. Jankel Aleman, a salesman, keeps plastic bags and rubber bands handy to wrap around his feet when he trudges from his car to the store through ever-rising waters.

A new scientific report on global warming released this week, the National Climate Assessment, named Miami as one of the cities most vulnerable to severe damage as a result of rising sea levels. Alton Road, a commercial thoroughfare in the heart of stylish South Beach, is getting early ripples of sea level rise caused by global warming — even as Florida’s politicians, including two possible contenders for the presidency in 2016, are starkly at odds over what to do about it and whether the problem is even real.

“The theme of the report is that climate change is not a future thing, it’s a ‘happening-now’ thing,” said Leonard Berry, a contributing author of the new report and director of the Florida Center for Environmental Studies at Florida Atlantic University. “Alton Road is one of the now things.”

Sea levels have risen eight inches since 1870, according to the new report, which projects a further rise of one to four feet by the end of the century. Waters around southeast Florida could surge up to two feet by 2060, according to a report by the Southeast Florida Regional Climate Compact. A study by the Florida Department of Transportation concluded that over the next 35 years, rising sea levels will increasingly flood and damage smaller local roads in the Miami area.

The national climate report found that although rapidly melting Arctic ice is threatening the entire American coastline, Miami is exceptionally vulnerable because of its unique geology. The city is built on top of porous limestone, which is already allowing the rising seas to soak into the city’s foundation, bubble up through pipes and drains, encroach on fresh water supplies and saturate infrastructure. County governments estimate that the damages could rise to billions or even trillions of dollars.

The world will get serious about dealing with climate change only when the seas begin to flood the beachside homes of the rich and powerful.

In and around Miami, local officials are grappling head on with the problem. “Sea level rise is our reality in Miami Beach,” said the city’s mayor, Philip Levine. “We are past the point of debating the existence of climate change and are now focusing on adapting to current and future threats.” In the face of encroaching saltwater and sunny-day flooding like that on Alton Road, Mr. Levine has supported a $400 million spending project to make the city’s drainage system more resilient in the face of rising tides.

But while local politicians can take action to shore up their community against the rising tide, they are powerless to stop what scientists say is the heart of the problem: the increasing fossil fuel emissions that continue to warm the planet. Scientists say that the scale of emission reductions necessary to prevent the most dangerous effects of global warming can only come as a result of national and international policies to cut carbon pollution.

In particular, climate experts say, national policies to tax or regulate carbon pollution are required by the world’s top emitters, chiefly the United States and China. Such efforts have to date met a wave of political opposition in Congress — bills aimed at putting a price on carbon pollution have repeatedly failed. President Obama plans to use his executive authority to issue a regulation that would cut carbon pollution from coal-fired power plants, but Republicans, who call the rule a “War on Coal,” want to overturn it.

Senator Bill Nelson, Democrat of Florida, supports carbon-cutting efforts, even as he acknowledges that they will come with some economic cost. In April, he convened a packed hearing at the Miami Beach City Hall on the encroaching waters.

“With sea level rise, you’ve got to get to core of the problem,” Mr. Nelson said at the hearing. “You have to lessen the amount of CO2. It’s politically treacherous and costly. But at the end of the day, something like that is going to have to get passed. Otherwise the planet is going to continue to heat up.”

But three prominent Florida Republicans — Senator Marco Rubio, former Gov. Jeb Bush and the current governor, Rick Scott — declined repeated requests to be interviewed on the subject. Mr. Rubio and Mr. Bush are viewed as potential presidential candidates. Political analysts say the reluctance of the three men to speak publicly on the issue reflects an increasingly difficult political reality for Republicans grappling with the issue of climate change, particularly for the party’s lawmakers from Florida. In acknowledging the problem, politicians must endorse a solution, but the only major policy solutions to climate change — taxing or regulating the oil, gas and coal industries — are anathema to the base of the Republican Party. Thus, many Republicans, especially in Florida, appear to be dealing with the issue by keeping silent.

“Jeb likes to take positions on hot-button issues, the same with Rubio,” said Joseph E. Uscinski, a political scientist at the University of Miami. “On immigration they are further mainstream on that than the rest of the G.O.P. But on this, Republicans are dead set against taking action on climate change on the national level. If you have political aspirations, this is not something you should talk about if you want to win a Republican primary.”

Over the past year, Mr. Rubio has signaled his skepticism about the established science that fossil fuel emissions contribute to climate change. When asked in a 2013 Buzzfeed webcast interview if climate change posed a threat to Florida, Mr. Rubio responded: “The climate is always changing. The question is, is manmade activity what’s contributing most to it?” He added that “I’ve seen reasonable debate on that principle” and “if we unilaterally impose these sorts of things on our economy it would have a devastating impact.”

But in 2008, while serving in the Florida State Legislature, Mr. Rubio supported a bill directing the State Department of Environmental Protection to develop rules for companies to limit carbon emissions.

As governor from 1999 to 2007, Mr. Bush pushed several environmental initiatives, particularly efforts to protect Everglades National Park, which scientists say is highly vulnerable to encroaching seawaters. Political scientists say that Mr. Rubio’s shift and Mr. Bush’s current silence on the issue appear to reflect the position of lawmakers who are mulling transitions from the state to the national stage and the realities of satisfying their party’s base in the 2016 primaries.
hahahaahahaahhahahahaahhahaha...................................hahaahhahahahahahhahaahhahaahaa, It's ashame you don't know what weather is. I'm not surprised though. Keep it up, I enjoy the comedy!
Vacuous insanity! As we've all come to expect from ol' JustCrazy, who is actually stupid enough to think that persistent increasing flooding equals "weather".
Naw... I know that when the tides are high, the moon is most likely full. And I know that when it rains 9 inches of rain in a day, that streets will most likely get flooded.
 
You have no evidence, retard, "empirical" or otherwise. All you've got are your moldy old denier cult myths and the moronic pseudo-science bullshit you scrape off of denier cult blogs and astroturfed fossil fuel industry propaganda outlets. All of the lying drivel you post gets immediately debunked with the facts, but you're too much of a brainwashed troll to admit that.

Did the oceans swallow up Florida yet? Did the north pole melt yet? ROFL you libtards are so funny.
Did anyone ever claim that the oceans would have swallowed up Florida by now. No. Just starting to happen by now - yes. Rising sea levels are already impacting Florida, as most of the residents are well aware, even if most of the rightwingnut politicians are in denial.

And yeah, nutbagger, the North Pole has melted enormously, no matter what crackpot myths and lies you've moronically fallen for.

Miami Finds Itself Ankle-Deep in Climate Change Debate
The New York Times
By CORAL DAVENPORT
MAY 7, 2014
JPCLIMATE-master675.jpg

Scenes of street flooding, like this one on Alton Road in Miami Beach in November, are becoming increasingly common. Credit - Angel Valentin for The New York Times

MIAMI BEACH — The sunny-day flooding was happening again. During high tide one recent afternoon, Eliseo Toussaint looked out the window of his Alton Road laundromat and watched bottle-green saltwater seep from the gutters, fill the street and block the entrance to his front door.

“This never used to happen,” Mr. Toussaint said. “I’ve owned this place eight years, and now it’s all the time.”

Down the block at an electronics store it is even worse. Jankel Aleman, a salesman, keeps plastic bags and rubber bands handy to wrap around his feet when he trudges from his car to the store through ever-rising waters.

A new scientific report on global warming released this week, the National Climate Assessment, named Miami as one of the cities most vulnerable to severe damage as a result of rising sea levels. Alton Road, a commercial thoroughfare in the heart of stylish South Beach, is getting early ripples of sea level rise caused by global warming — even as Florida’s politicians, including two possible contenders for the presidency in 2016, are starkly at odds over what to do about it and whether the problem is even real.

“The theme of the report is that climate change is not a future thing, it’s a ‘happening-now’ thing,” said Leonard Berry, a contributing author of the new report and director of the Florida Center for Environmental Studies at Florida Atlantic University. “Alton Road is one of the now things.”

Sea levels have risen eight inches since 1870, according to the new report, which projects a further rise of one to four feet by the end of the century. Waters around southeast Florida could surge up to two feet by 2060, according to a report by the Southeast Florida Regional Climate Compact. A study by the Florida Department of Transportation concluded that over the next 35 years, rising sea levels will increasingly flood and damage smaller local roads in the Miami area.

The national climate report found that although rapidly melting Arctic ice is threatening the entire American coastline, Miami is exceptionally vulnerable because of its unique geology. The city is built on top of porous limestone, which is already allowing the rising seas to soak into the city’s foundation, bubble up through pipes and drains, encroach on fresh water supplies and saturate infrastructure. County governments estimate that the damages could rise to billions or even trillions of dollars.

The world will get serious about dealing with climate change only when the seas begin to flood the beachside homes of the rich and powerful.

In and around Miami, local officials are grappling head on with the problem. “Sea level rise is our reality in Miami Beach,” said the city’s mayor, Philip Levine. “We are past the point of debating the existence of climate change and are now focusing on adapting to current and future threats.” In the face of encroaching saltwater and sunny-day flooding like that on Alton Road, Mr. Levine has supported a $400 million spending project to make the city’s drainage system more resilient in the face of rising tides.

But while local politicians can take action to shore up their community against the rising tide, they are powerless to stop what scientists say is the heart of the problem: the increasing fossil fuel emissions that continue to warm the planet. Scientists say that the scale of emission reductions necessary to prevent the most dangerous effects of global warming can only come as a result of national and international policies to cut carbon pollution.

In particular, climate experts say, national policies to tax or regulate carbon pollution are required by the world’s top emitters, chiefly the United States and China. Such efforts have to date met a wave of political opposition in Congress — bills aimed at putting a price on carbon pollution have repeatedly failed. President Obama plans to use his executive authority to issue a regulation that would cut carbon pollution from coal-fired power plants, but Republicans, who call the rule a “War on Coal,” want to overturn it.

Senator Bill Nelson, Democrat of Florida, supports carbon-cutting efforts, even as he acknowledges that they will come with some economic cost. In April, he convened a packed hearing at the Miami Beach City Hall on the encroaching waters.

“With sea level rise, you’ve got to get to core of the problem,” Mr. Nelson said at the hearing. “You have to lessen the amount of CO2. It’s politically treacherous and costly. But at the end of the day, something like that is going to have to get passed. Otherwise the planet is going to continue to heat up.”

But three prominent Florida Republicans — Senator Marco Rubio, former Gov. Jeb Bush and the current governor, Rick Scott — declined repeated requests to be interviewed on the subject. Mr. Rubio and Mr. Bush are viewed as potential presidential candidates. Political analysts say the reluctance of the three men to speak publicly on the issue reflects an increasingly difficult political reality for Republicans grappling with the issue of climate change, particularly for the party’s lawmakers from Florida. In acknowledging the problem, politicians must endorse a solution, but the only major policy solutions to climate change — taxing or regulating the oil, gas and coal industries — are anathema to the base of the Republican Party. Thus, many Republicans, especially in Florida, appear to be dealing with the issue by keeping silent.

“Jeb likes to take positions on hot-button issues, the same with Rubio,” said Joseph E. Uscinski, a political scientist at the University of Miami. “On immigration they are further mainstream on that than the rest of the G.O.P. But on this, Republicans are dead set against taking action on climate change on the national level. If you have political aspirations, this is not something you should talk about if you want to win a Republican primary.”

Over the past year, Mr. Rubio has signaled his skepticism about the established science that fossil fuel emissions contribute to climate change. When asked in a 2013 Buzzfeed webcast interview if climate change posed a threat to Florida, Mr. Rubio responded: “The climate is always changing. The question is, is manmade activity what’s contributing most to it?” He added that “I’ve seen reasonable debate on that principle” and “if we unilaterally impose these sorts of things on our economy it would have a devastating impact.”

But in 2008, while serving in the Florida State Legislature, Mr. Rubio supported a bill directing the State Department of Environmental Protection to develop rules for companies to limit carbon emissions.

As governor from 1999 to 2007, Mr. Bush pushed several environmental initiatives, particularly efforts to protect Everglades National Park, which scientists say is highly vulnerable to encroaching seawaters. Political scientists say that Mr. Rubio’s shift and Mr. Bush’s current silence on the issue appear to reflect the position of lawmakers who are mulling transitions from the state to the national stage and the realities of satisfying their party’s base in the 2016 primaries.
hahahaahahaahhahahahaahhahaha...................................hahaahhahahahahahhahaahhahaahaa, It's ashame you don't know what weather is. I'm not surprised though. Keep it up, I enjoy the comedy!
Vacuous insanity! As we've all come to expect from ol' JustCrazy, who is actually stupid enough to think that persistent increasing flooding equals "weather".
Naw... I know that when the tides are high, the moon is most likely full. And I know that when it rains 9 inches of rain in a day, that streets will most likely get flooded.

ROFL these libtards are the dumbest animals on the planet.

Back in the 70s we'd row canoes up and down the streets in Florida nearly every time it rained. .. Solution? Dredge more and deeper canals. Voila! Course back then we didn't know how stupid we were not be be frozen in terror as the big bad global change monster came to drown us all. Clearly what we should have done is kill all the cows in florida to ease global warming, see then we wouldn't need the canals.
 
You have no evidence, retard, "empirical" or otherwise. All you've got are your moldy old denier cult myths and the moronic pseudo-science bullshit you scrape off of denier cult blogs and astroturfed fossil fuel industry propaganda outlets. All of the lying drivel you post gets immediately debunked with the facts, but you're too much of a brainwashed troll to admit that.

Did the oceans swallow up Florida yet? Did the north pole melt yet? ROFL you libtards are so funny.
Did anyone ever claim that the oceans would have swallowed up Florida by now. No. Just starting to happen by now - yes. Rising sea levels are already impacting Florida, as most of the residents are well aware, even if most of the rightwingnut politicians are in denial.

And yeah, nutbagger, the North Pole has melted enormously, no matter what crackpot myths and lies you've moronically fallen for.

Miami Finds Itself Ankle-Deep in Climate Change Debate
The New York Times
By CORAL DAVENPORT
MAY 7, 2014
JPCLIMATE-master675.jpg

Scenes of street flooding, like this one on Alton Road in Miami Beach in November, are becoming increasingly common. Credit - Angel Valentin for The New York Times

MIAMI BEACH — The sunny-day flooding was happening again. During high tide one recent afternoon, Eliseo Toussaint looked out the window of his Alton Road laundromat and watched bottle-green saltwater seep from the gutters, fill the street and block the entrance to his front door.

“This never used to happen,” Mr. Toussaint said. “I’ve owned this place eight years, and now it’s all the time.”

Down the block at an electronics store it is even worse. Jankel Aleman, a salesman, keeps plastic bags and rubber bands handy to wrap around his feet when he trudges from his car to the store through ever-rising waters.

A new scientific report on global warming released this week, the National Climate Assessment, named Miami as one of the cities most vulnerable to severe damage as a result of rising sea levels. Alton Road, a commercial thoroughfare in the heart of stylish South Beach, is getting early ripples of sea level rise caused by global warming — even as Florida’s politicians, including two possible contenders for the presidency in 2016, are starkly at odds over what to do about it and whether the problem is even real.

“The theme of the report is that climate change is not a future thing, it’s a ‘happening-now’ thing,” said Leonard Berry, a contributing author of the new report and director of the Florida Center for Environmental Studies at Florida Atlantic University. “Alton Road is one of the now things.”

Sea levels have risen eight inches since 1870, according to the new report, which projects a further rise of one to four feet by the end of the century. Waters around southeast Florida could surge up to two feet by 2060, according to a report by the Southeast Florida Regional Climate Compact. A study by the Florida Department of Transportation concluded that over the next 35 years, rising sea levels will increasingly flood and damage smaller local roads in the Miami area.

The national climate report found that although rapidly melting Arctic ice is threatening the entire American coastline, Miami is exceptionally vulnerable because of its unique geology. The city is built on top of porous limestone, which is already allowing the rising seas to soak into the city’s foundation, bubble up through pipes and drains, encroach on fresh water supplies and saturate infrastructure. County governments estimate that the damages could rise to billions or even trillions of dollars.

The world will get serious about dealing with climate change only when the seas begin to flood the beachside homes of the rich and powerful.

In and around Miami, local officials are grappling head on with the problem. “Sea level rise is our reality in Miami Beach,” said the city’s mayor, Philip Levine. “We are past the point of debating the existence of climate change and are now focusing on adapting to current and future threats.” In the face of encroaching saltwater and sunny-day flooding like that on Alton Road, Mr. Levine has supported a $400 million spending project to make the city’s drainage system more resilient in the face of rising tides.

But while local politicians can take action to shore up their community against the rising tide, they are powerless to stop what scientists say is the heart of the problem: the increasing fossil fuel emissions that continue to warm the planet. Scientists say that the scale of emission reductions necessary to prevent the most dangerous effects of global warming can only come as a result of national and international policies to cut carbon pollution.

In particular, climate experts say, national policies to tax or regulate carbon pollution are required by the world’s top emitters, chiefly the United States and China. Such efforts have to date met a wave of political opposition in Congress — bills aimed at putting a price on carbon pollution have repeatedly failed. President Obama plans to use his executive authority to issue a regulation that would cut carbon pollution from coal-fired power plants, but Republicans, who call the rule a “War on Coal,” want to overturn it.

Senator Bill Nelson, Democrat of Florida, supports carbon-cutting efforts, even as he acknowledges that they will come with some economic cost. In April, he convened a packed hearing at the Miami Beach City Hall on the encroaching waters.

“With sea level rise, you’ve got to get to core of the problem,” Mr. Nelson said at the hearing. “You have to lessen the amount of CO2. It’s politically treacherous and costly. But at the end of the day, something like that is going to have to get passed. Otherwise the planet is going to continue to heat up.”

But three prominent Florida Republicans — Senator Marco Rubio, former Gov. Jeb Bush and the current governor, Rick Scott — declined repeated requests to be interviewed on the subject. Mr. Rubio and Mr. Bush are viewed as potential presidential candidates. Political analysts say the reluctance of the three men to speak publicly on the issue reflects an increasingly difficult political reality for Republicans grappling with the issue of climate change, particularly for the party’s lawmakers from Florida. In acknowledging the problem, politicians must endorse a solution, but the only major policy solutions to climate change — taxing or regulating the oil, gas and coal industries — are anathema to the base of the Republican Party. Thus, many Republicans, especially in Florida, appear to be dealing with the issue by keeping silent.

“Jeb likes to take positions on hot-button issues, the same with Rubio,” said Joseph E. Uscinski, a political scientist at the University of Miami. “On immigration they are further mainstream on that than the rest of the G.O.P. But on this, Republicans are dead set against taking action on climate change on the national level. If you have political aspirations, this is not something you should talk about if you want to win a Republican primary.”

Over the past year, Mr. Rubio has signaled his skepticism about the established science that fossil fuel emissions contribute to climate change. When asked in a 2013 Buzzfeed webcast interview if climate change posed a threat to Florida, Mr. Rubio responded: “The climate is always changing. The question is, is manmade activity what’s contributing most to it?” He added that “I’ve seen reasonable debate on that principle” and “if we unilaterally impose these sorts of things on our economy it would have a devastating impact.”

But in 2008, while serving in the Florida State Legislature, Mr. Rubio supported a bill directing the State Department of Environmental Protection to develop rules for companies to limit carbon emissions.

As governor from 1999 to 2007, Mr. Bush pushed several environmental initiatives, particularly efforts to protect Everglades National Park, which scientists say is highly vulnerable to encroaching seawaters. Political scientists say that Mr. Rubio’s shift and Mr. Bush’s current silence on the issue appear to reflect the position of lawmakers who are mulling transitions from the state to the national stage and the realities of satisfying their party’s base in the 2016 primaries.
hahahaahahaahhahahahaahhahaha...................................hahaahhahahahahahhahaahhahaahaa, It's ashame you don't know what weather is. I'm not surprised though. Keep it up, I enjoy the comedy!
Vacuous insanity! As we've all come to expect from ol' JustCrazy, who is actually stupid enough to think that persistent increasing flooding equals "weather".
Naw... I know that when the tides are high, the moon is most likely full. And I know that when it rains 9 inches of rain in a day, that streets will most likely get flooded.
LOLOLOLOL.....sooooo retarded......JustCrazy pretends to think that when they talk about "sunny-day flooding" , they really mean "when it rains 9 inches of rain in a day"....LOLOL.

MIAMI BEACH — The sunny-day flooding was happening again. During high tide one recent afternoon, Eliseo Toussaint looked out the window of his Alton Road laundromat and watched bottle-green saltwater seep from the gutters, fill the street and block the entrance to his front door. “This never used to happen,” Mr. Toussaint said. “I’ve owned this place eight years, and now it’s all the time.

And ol' JustCrazy also pretends to think that Florida officials are wackos who are just making it all up......LOLOL....

In and around Miami, local officials are grappling head on with the problem. “Sea level rise is our reality in Miami Beach,” said the city’s mayor, Philip Levine. “We are past the point of debating the existence of climate change and are now focusing on adapting to current and future threats.
 
Did the oceans swallow up Florida yet? Did the north pole melt yet? ROFL you libtards are so funny.
Did anyone ever claim that the oceans would have swallowed up Florida by now. No. Just starting to happen by now - yes. Rising sea levels are already impacting Florida, as most of the residents are well aware, even if most of the rightwingnut politicians are in denial.

And yeah, nutbagger, the North Pole has melted enormously, no matter what crackpot myths and lies you've moronically fallen for.

Miami Finds Itself Ankle-Deep in Climate Change Debate
The New York Times
By CORAL DAVENPORT
MAY 7, 2014
JPCLIMATE-master675.jpg

Scenes of street flooding, like this one on Alton Road in Miami Beach in November, are becoming increasingly common. Credit - Angel Valentin for The New York Times

MIAMI BEACH — The sunny-day flooding was happening again. During high tide one recent afternoon, Eliseo Toussaint looked out the window of his Alton Road laundromat and watched bottle-green saltwater seep from the gutters, fill the street and block the entrance to his front door.

“This never used to happen,” Mr. Toussaint said. “I’ve owned this place eight years, and now it’s all the time.”

Down the block at an electronics store it is even worse. Jankel Aleman, a salesman, keeps plastic bags and rubber bands handy to wrap around his feet when he trudges from his car to the store through ever-rising waters.

A new scientific report on global warming released this week, the National Climate Assessment, named Miami as one of the cities most vulnerable to severe damage as a result of rising sea levels. Alton Road, a commercial thoroughfare in the heart of stylish South Beach, is getting early ripples of sea level rise caused by global warming — even as Florida’s politicians, including two possible contenders for the presidency in 2016, are starkly at odds over what to do about it and whether the problem is even real.

“The theme of the report is that climate change is not a future thing, it’s a ‘happening-now’ thing,” said Leonard Berry, a contributing author of the new report and director of the Florida Center for Environmental Studies at Florida Atlantic University. “Alton Road is one of the now things.”

Sea levels have risen eight inches since 1870, according to the new report, which projects a further rise of one to four feet by the end of the century. Waters around southeast Florida could surge up to two feet by 2060, according to a report by the Southeast Florida Regional Climate Compact. A study by the Florida Department of Transportation concluded that over the next 35 years, rising sea levels will increasingly flood and damage smaller local roads in the Miami area.

The national climate report found that although rapidly melting Arctic ice is threatening the entire American coastline, Miami is exceptionally vulnerable because of its unique geology. The city is built on top of porous limestone, which is already allowing the rising seas to soak into the city’s foundation, bubble up through pipes and drains, encroach on fresh water supplies and saturate infrastructure. County governments estimate that the damages could rise to billions or even trillions of dollars.

The world will get serious about dealing with climate change only when the seas begin to flood the beachside homes of the rich and powerful.

In and around Miami, local officials are grappling head on with the problem. “Sea level rise is our reality in Miami Beach,” said the city’s mayor, Philip Levine. “We are past the point of debating the existence of climate change and are now focusing on adapting to current and future threats.” In the face of encroaching saltwater and sunny-day flooding like that on Alton Road, Mr. Levine has supported a $400 million spending project to make the city’s drainage system more resilient in the face of rising tides.

But while local politicians can take action to shore up their community against the rising tide, they are powerless to stop what scientists say is the heart of the problem: the increasing fossil fuel emissions that continue to warm the planet. Scientists say that the scale of emission reductions necessary to prevent the most dangerous effects of global warming can only come as a result of national and international policies to cut carbon pollution.

In particular, climate experts say, national policies to tax or regulate carbon pollution are required by the world’s top emitters, chiefly the United States and China. Such efforts have to date met a wave of political opposition in Congress — bills aimed at putting a price on carbon pollution have repeatedly failed. President Obama plans to use his executive authority to issue a regulation that would cut carbon pollution from coal-fired power plants, but Republicans, who call the rule a “War on Coal,” want to overturn it.

Senator Bill Nelson, Democrat of Florida, supports carbon-cutting efforts, even as he acknowledges that they will come with some economic cost. In April, he convened a packed hearing at the Miami Beach City Hall on the encroaching waters.

“With sea level rise, you’ve got to get to core of the problem,” Mr. Nelson said at the hearing. “You have to lessen the amount of CO2. It’s politically treacherous and costly. But at the end of the day, something like that is going to have to get passed. Otherwise the planet is going to continue to heat up.”

But three prominent Florida Republicans — Senator Marco Rubio, former Gov. Jeb Bush and the current governor, Rick Scott — declined repeated requests to be interviewed on the subject. Mr. Rubio and Mr. Bush are viewed as potential presidential candidates. Political analysts say the reluctance of the three men to speak publicly on the issue reflects an increasingly difficult political reality for Republicans grappling with the issue of climate change, particularly for the party’s lawmakers from Florida. In acknowledging the problem, politicians must endorse a solution, but the only major policy solutions to climate change — taxing or regulating the oil, gas and coal industries — are anathema to the base of the Republican Party. Thus, many Republicans, especially in Florida, appear to be dealing with the issue by keeping silent.

“Jeb likes to take positions on hot-button issues, the same with Rubio,” said Joseph E. Uscinski, a political scientist at the University of Miami. “On immigration they are further mainstream on that than the rest of the G.O.P. But on this, Republicans are dead set against taking action on climate change on the national level. If you have political aspirations, this is not something you should talk about if you want to win a Republican primary.”

Over the past year, Mr. Rubio has signaled his skepticism about the established science that fossil fuel emissions contribute to climate change. When asked in a 2013 Buzzfeed webcast interview if climate change posed a threat to Florida, Mr. Rubio responded: “The climate is always changing. The question is, is manmade activity what’s contributing most to it?” He added that “I’ve seen reasonable debate on that principle” and “if we unilaterally impose these sorts of things on our economy it would have a devastating impact.”

But in 2008, while serving in the Florida State Legislature, Mr. Rubio supported a bill directing the State Department of Environmental Protection to develop rules for companies to limit carbon emissions.

As governor from 1999 to 2007, Mr. Bush pushed several environmental initiatives, particularly efforts to protect Everglades National Park, which scientists say is highly vulnerable to encroaching seawaters. Political scientists say that Mr. Rubio’s shift and Mr. Bush’s current silence on the issue appear to reflect the position of lawmakers who are mulling transitions from the state to the national stage and the realities of satisfying their party’s base in the 2016 primaries.
hahahaahahaahhahahahaahhahaha...................................hahaahhahahahahahhahaahhahaahaa, It's ashame you don't know what weather is. I'm not surprised though. Keep it up, I enjoy the comedy!
Vacuous insanity! As we've all come to expect from ol' JustCrazy, who is actually stupid enough to think that persistent increasing flooding equals "weather".
Naw... I know that when the tides are high, the moon is most likely full. And I know that when it rains 9 inches of rain in a day, that streets will most likely get flooded.
LOLOLOLOL.....sooooo retarded......JustCrazy pretends to think that when they talk about "sunny-day flooding" , they really mean "when it rains 9 inches of rain in a day"....LOLOL.

MIAMI BEACH — The sunny-day flooding was happening again. During high tide one recent afternoon, Eliseo Toussaint looked out the window of his Alton Road laundromat and watched bottle-green saltwater seep from the gutters, fill the street and block the entrance to his front door. “This never used to happen,” Mr. Toussaint said. “I’ve owned this place eight years, and now it’s all the time.

And ol' JustCrazy also pretends to think that Florida officials are wackos who are just making it all up......LOLOL....

In and around Miami, local officials are grappling head on with the problem. “Sea level rise is our reality in Miami Beach,” said the city’s mayor, Philip Levine. “We are past the point of debating the existence of climate change and are now focusing on adapting to current and future threats.
I believe the man stated high tide. I believe that was in my post, so not sure what your point is since you never have one.

Edit: BTW, the sun can shine after a storm mr. braindead!!!!
 
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I would have thought it pretty obvious Mr 456 that the first flooding to be caused by rising sea levels would take place at high tide.
 
You have no evidence, retard, "empirical" or otherwise. All you've got are your moldy old denier cult myths and the moronic pseudo-science bullshit you scrape off of denier cult blogs and astroturfed fossil fuel industry propaganda outlets. All of the lying drivel you post gets immediately debunked with the facts, but you're too much of a brainwashed troll to admit that.

Boy Blunder refuses to admit defeat. He Lies like a rug.. Its fun to watch this moron struggle to even get a single cognitive thought out..

The only thing astrotrufed is the alarmist (or should I say PAID propagandists) that try and hide here.

Even NOAA is now running away from the hottest year Ev'a...
THE NORTH ATLANTIC OSCILLATION (NAO) IS FORECAST TO DROP INTO
THE NEGATIVE PHASE OVER THE NEXT 10 DAYS. TYPICALLY...THE NAO
CAN BE PREDICTED AT MOST UP TO 2 WEEKS IN ADVANCE. A SIMILAR
TREND IS EXPECTED OUT TO 14 DAYS. A NEGATIVE NAO INDICATES
TEMPERATURES WILL BE BELOW NORMAL ACROSS THE GREAT LAKES REGION.
THIS IS A PATTERN IN WHICH ARCTIC AIR MASSES ARE ALLOWED TO
PENETRATE SOUTH INTO THE EASTERN HALF OF THE UNITED STATES.
BEGINNING THE LATTER HALF OF THIS WEEK...THE GREAT LAKES WILL
BE HEADED INTO MORE WINTER LIKE CONDITIONS WITH A SERIES OF
COLD AIR OUTBREAKS EXPECTED.

THE ARCTIC OSCILLATION (AO) IS FORECAST OVER THE NEXT COUPLE
WEEKS TO TREND DEEP IN THE NEGATIVE PHASE. THIS IS ANOTHER
INDICATION THAT TEMPERATURES WILL BE BELOW NORMAL OVER THE NEXT
COUPLE WEEKS. THE NAO AND AO ARE DIFFICULT TO FORECAST BECAUSE THEY
MAKE THEIR PRESENCE KNOWN WITHIN ABOUT TWO WEEKS IN THE FUTURE.


Source
 
CSIRO-92-13-sea-level-rise.JPG

As the graph says, the trend since 1992 is 3.2 mm/yr. The trend since 2011, however, looks closer to 19 mm/yr. With no further acceleration, that would give us over 5'4" of sea level rise by 2100.


Holy HORSE SHIT!!!! were all gonna drowned.... What a bunch of MODELED bull shit!
 

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