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The thing is though, the type of surveillance and sensors that would make such a wall practical would work without the wall in the first place. I actually support adding monitoring along the border that would catch people crossing as many are also doing so for other illegal reasons like drug trafficking.It will do little to stem illegals crossing the border as well. A billion dollar wall can be defeated by a 100 dollar ladder...I like how it's described as "patriotism" in Mexico, but anything patriotic in America is described as "nationalism" by liberals.
Mexicans can call it whatever they want. The bulk of them who are illegally in the U.S. didn't enter the country by traipsing through the wilderness to cross the border. The majority of illegals come to the U.S. legally and overstay their visas, but Trump wants to build a wall to stem the least prevalent means of illegal immigration. (How many Mexicans actually cross the border illegally?) A wall isn't going to do a damn thing to curtail that form of illegal migration to the U.S. If I were a Mexican business owner, I'd probably know that; thus I'd be more than happy to help build Trump's wall, and I could call it patriotic or anything else someone wanted me to call it so long as I get paid.
Strictly speaking, I have to agree with you, at least in principle/theory. LOL
Practically speaking, I would hope the wall be monitored well enough that a ladder leaned against it, indeed the people approaching the wall with said ladder, would attract the attention of border guards who could get to the place in question before the climbers can abscond successfully.
I certainly think the wall idea is a dumbass idea from the get-go. I'll grant that a wall sounds like a good idea, but I know better than to think it actually is one. Frankly, I think lots of cactus, quicksand, alligators and other dangerous animals, supplemented by a force of drones are a better strategy than is a wall. Even in broad daylight, a camouflaged rattler is very hard to spot, and you still don't want to step on one.
See above. If you are going to have the technical devices to monitor the wall then you don't even need the wall in the first place.It will do little to stem illegals crossing the border as well. A billion dollar wall can be defeated by a 100 dollar ladder...I like how it's described as "patriotism" in Mexico, but anything patriotic in America is described as "nationalism" by liberals.
Mexicans can call it whatever they want. The bulk of them who are illegally in the U.S. didn't enter the country by traipsing through the wilderness to cross the border. The majority of illegals come to the U.S. legally and overstay their visas, but Trump wants to build a wall to stem the least prevalent means of illegal immigration. (How many Mexicans actually cross the border illegally?) A wall isn't going to do a damn thing to curtail that form of illegal migration to the U.S. If I were a Mexican business owner, I'd probably know that; thus I'd be more than happy to help build Trump's wall, and I could call it patriotic or anything else someone wanted me to call it so long as I get paid.
That assumes the wall is just a wall and doesn't have any high tech features like motion sensors, thermal imaging cameras/drones, etc.
Wow, you are terribly uninformed. You thought Trump wants these guys to build the wall?Seriously? Mr. Buy American is going to outsource the wall construction to MEXICAN companies,
on our tax dollar?
How unsurprising.
The thing is though, the type of surveillance and sensors that would make such a wall practical would work without the wall in the first place. I actually support adding monitoring along the border that would catch people crossing as many are also doing so for other illegal reasons like drug trafficking.It will do little to stem illegals crossing the border as well. A billion dollar wall can be defeated by a 100 dollar ladder...I like how it's described as "patriotism" in Mexico, but anything patriotic in America is described as "nationalism" by liberals.
Mexicans can call it whatever they want. The bulk of them who are illegally in the U.S. didn't enter the country by traipsing through the wilderness to cross the border. The majority of illegals come to the U.S. legally and overstay their visas, but Trump wants to build a wall to stem the least prevalent means of illegal immigration. (How many Mexicans actually cross the border illegally?) A wall isn't going to do a damn thing to curtail that form of illegal migration to the U.S. If I were a Mexican business owner, I'd probably know that; thus I'd be more than happy to help build Trump's wall, and I could call it patriotic or anything else someone wanted me to call it so long as I get paid.
Strictly speaking, I have to agree with you, at least in principle/theory. LOL
Practically speaking, I would hope the wall be monitored well enough that a ladder leaned against it, indeed the people approaching the wall with said ladder, would attract the attention of border guards who could get to the place in question before the climbers can abscond successfully.
I certainly think the wall idea is a dumbass idea from the get-go. I'll grant that a wall sounds like a good idea, but I know better than to think it actually is one. Frankly, I think lots of cactus, quicksand, alligators and other dangerous animals, supplemented by a force of drones are a better strategy than is a wall. Even in broad daylight, a camouflaged rattler is very hard to spot, and you still don't want to step on one.
Sensors are even better without a wall that will announce their presence.
Two agents in a 4x4 can defeat 1000 guys with ladders.It will do little to stem illegals crossing the border as well. A billion dollar wall can be defeated by a 100 dollar ladder...I like how it's described as "patriotism" in Mexico, but anything patriotic in America is described as "nationalism" by liberals.
Mexicans can call it whatever they want. The bulk of them who are illegally in the U.S. didn't enter the country by traipsing through the wilderness to cross the border. The majority of illegals come to the U.S. legally and overstay their visas, but Trump wants to build a wall to stem the least prevalent means of illegal immigration. (How many Mexicans actually cross the border illegally?) A wall isn't going to do a damn thing to curtail that form of illegal migration to the U.S. If I were a Mexican business owner, I'd probably know that; thus I'd be more than happy to help build Trump's wall, and I could call it patriotic or anything else someone wanted me to call it so long as I get paid.
It especially assumes that there won't be people guarding it. All leftwing theories about how the wall can be defeated are based on the border patrol being terminally stupid.It will do little to stem illegals crossing the border as well. A billion dollar wall can be defeated by a 100 dollar ladder...I like how it's described as "patriotism" in Mexico, but anything patriotic in America is described as "nationalism" by liberals.
Mexicans can call it whatever they want. The bulk of them who are illegally in the U.S. didn't enter the country by traipsing through the wilderness to cross the border. The majority of illegals come to the U.S. legally and overstay their visas, but Trump wants to build a wall to stem the least prevalent means of illegal immigration. (How many Mexicans actually cross the border illegally?) A wall isn't going to do a damn thing to curtail that form of illegal migration to the U.S. If I were a Mexican business owner, I'd probably know that; thus I'd be more than happy to help build Trump's wall, and I could call it patriotic or anything else someone wanted me to call it so long as I get paid.
That assumes the wall is just a wall and doesn't have any high tech features like motion sensors, thermal imaging cameras/drones, etc.
You really are one fucking dumbass. Alligators and snakes has to be the dumbest solution to the problend ever posted.It will do little to stem illegals crossing the border as well. A billion dollar wall can be defeated by a 100 dollar ladder...I like how it's described as "patriotism" in Mexico, but anything patriotic in America is described as "nationalism" by liberals.
Mexicans can call it whatever they want. The bulk of them who are illegally in the U.S. didn't enter the country by traipsing through the wilderness to cross the border. The majority of illegals come to the U.S. legally and overstay their visas, but Trump wants to build a wall to stem the least prevalent means of illegal immigration. (How many Mexicans actually cross the border illegally?) A wall isn't going to do a damn thing to curtail that form of illegal migration to the U.S. If I were a Mexican business owner, I'd probably know that; thus I'd be more than happy to help build Trump's wall, and I could call it patriotic or anything else someone wanted me to call it so long as I get paid.
Strictly speaking, I have to agree with you, at least in principle/theory. LOL
Practically speaking, I would hope the wall be monitored well enough that a ladder leaned against it, indeed the people approaching the wall with said ladder, would attract the attention of border guards who could get to the place in question before the climbers can abscond successfully.
I certainly think the wall idea is a dumbass idea from the get-go. I'll grant that a wall sounds like a good idea, but I know better than to think it actually is one. Frankly, I think lots of cactus, quicksand, alligators and other dangerous animals, supplemented by a force of drones are a better strategy than is a wall. Even in broad daylight, a camouflaged rattler is very hard to spot, and you still don't want to step on one.
The thing is though, the type of surveillance and sensors that would make such a wall practical would work without the wall in the first place. I actually support adding monitoring along the border that would catch people crossing as many are also doing so for other illegal reasons like drug trafficking.It will do little to stem illegals crossing the border as well. A billion dollar wall can be defeated by a 100 dollar ladder...I like how it's described as "patriotism" in Mexico, but anything patriotic in America is described as "nationalism" by liberals.
Mexicans can call it whatever they want. The bulk of them who are illegally in the U.S. didn't enter the country by traipsing through the wilderness to cross the border. The majority of illegals come to the U.S. legally and overstay their visas, but Trump wants to build a wall to stem the least prevalent means of illegal immigration. (How many Mexicans actually cross the border illegally?) A wall isn't going to do a damn thing to curtail that form of illegal migration to the U.S. If I were a Mexican business owner, I'd probably know that; thus I'd be more than happy to help build Trump's wall, and I could call it patriotic or anything else someone wanted me to call it so long as I get paid.
Strictly speaking, I have to agree with you, at least in principle/theory. LOL
Practically speaking, I would hope the wall be monitored well enough that a ladder leaned against it, indeed the people approaching the wall with said ladder, would attract the attention of border guards who could get to the place in question before the climbers can abscond successfully.
I certainly think the wall idea is a dumbass idea from the get-go. I'll grant that a wall sounds like a good idea, but I know better than to think it actually is one. Frankly, I think lots of cactus, quicksand, alligators and other dangerous animals, supplemented by a force of drones are a better strategy than is a wall. Even in broad daylight, a camouflaged rattler is very hard to spot, and you still don't want to step on one.
Sensors are even better without a wall that will announce their presence.
There's no reason we can't have both. Have a wall with sensors and other monitors and also have hundreds of feet of monitoring behind the wall.
The thing is though, the type of surveillance and sensors that would make such a wall practical would work without the wall in the first place. I actually support adding monitoring along the border that would catch people crossing as many are also doing so for other illegal reasons like drug trafficking.It will do little to stem illegals crossing the border as well. A billion dollar wall can be defeated by a 100 dollar ladder...Mexicans can call it whatever they want. The bulk of them who are illegally in the U.S. didn't enter the country by traipsing through the wilderness to cross the border. The majority of illegals come to the U.S. legally and overstay their visas, but Trump wants to build a wall to stem the least prevalent means of illegal immigration. (How many Mexicans actually cross the border illegally?) A wall isn't going to do a damn thing to curtail that form of illegal migration to the U.S. If I were a Mexican business owner, I'd probably know that; thus I'd be more than happy to help build Trump's wall, and I could call it patriotic or anything else someone wanted me to call it so long as I get paid.
Strictly speaking, I have to agree with you, at least in principle/theory. LOL
Practically speaking, I would hope the wall be monitored well enough that a ladder leaned against it, indeed the people approaching the wall with said ladder, would attract the attention of border guards who could get to the place in question before the climbers can abscond successfully.
I certainly think the wall idea is a dumbass idea from the get-go. I'll grant that a wall sounds like a good idea, but I know better than to think it actually is one. Frankly, I think lots of cactus, quicksand, alligators and other dangerous animals, supplemented by a force of drones are a better strategy than is a wall. Even in broad daylight, a camouflaged rattler is very hard to spot, and you still don't want to step on one.
Sensors are even better without a wall that will announce their presence.
There's no reason we can't have both. Have a wall with sensors and other monitors and also have hundreds of feet of monitoring behind the wall.
....But there are several billion reasons we shouldn't have both......
It will do little to stem illegals crossing the border as well. A billion dollar wall can be defeated by a 100 dollar ladder...
It will do little to stem illegals crossing the border as well. A billion dollar wall can be defeated by a 100 dollar ladder...
Technically, the same holds true for the fence around the WH, the wall around the Vatican and even prison walls. What makes them work is having enough security to monitor them. Electronic surveillance in addition to having enough border guards would make a huge difference.
The thing is though, the type of surveillance and sensors that would make such a wall practical would work without the wall in the first place. I actually support adding monitoring along the border that would catch people crossing as many are also doing so for other illegal reasons like drug trafficking.It will do little to stem illegals crossing the border as well. A billion dollar wall can be defeated by a 100 dollar ladder...
Strictly speaking, I have to agree with you, at least in principle/theory. LOL
Practically speaking, I would hope the wall be monitored well enough that a ladder leaned against it, indeed the people approaching the wall with said ladder, would attract the attention of border guards who could get to the place in question before the climbers can abscond successfully.
I certainly think the wall idea is a dumbass idea from the get-go. I'll grant that a wall sounds like a good idea, but I know better than to think it actually is one. Frankly, I think lots of cactus, quicksand, alligators and other dangerous animals, supplemented by a force of drones are a better strategy than is a wall. Even in broad daylight, a camouflaged rattler is very hard to spot, and you still don't want to step on one.
Sensors are even better without a wall that will announce their presence.
There's no reason we can't have both. Have a wall with sensors and other monitors and also have hundreds of feet of monitoring behind the wall.
....But there are several billion reasons we shouldn't have both......
In your opinion. In my opinion, it's money well spent to help secure our border.
it's money well spent to help secure our border.
The thing is though, the type of surveillance and sensors that would make such a wall practical would work without the wall in the first place. I actually support adding monitoring along the border that would catch people crossing as many are also doing so for other illegal reasons like drug trafficking.Strictly speaking, I have to agree with you, at least in principle/theory. LOL
Practically speaking, I would hope the wall be monitored well enough that a ladder leaned against it, indeed the people approaching the wall with said ladder, would attract the attention of border guards who could get to the place in question before the climbers can abscond successfully.
I certainly think the wall idea is a dumbass idea from the get-go. I'll grant that a wall sounds like a good idea, but I know better than to think it actually is one. Frankly, I think lots of cactus, quicksand, alligators and other dangerous animals, supplemented by a force of drones are a better strategy than is a wall. Even in broad daylight, a camouflaged rattler is very hard to spot, and you still don't want to step on one.
Sensors are even better without a wall that will announce their presence.
There's no reason we can't have both. Have a wall with sensors and other monitors and also have hundreds of feet of monitoring behind the wall.
....But there are several billion reasons we shouldn't have both......
In your opinion. In my opinion, it's money well spent to help secure our border.it's money well spent to help secure our border.
Fine. Please share with us your business case that makes it "money well spent." Don't forget, a business case has both the financial costs and the financial returns..
The thing is though, the type of surveillance and sensors that would make such a wall practical would work without the wall in the first place. I actually support adding monitoring along the border that would catch people crossing as many are also doing so for other illegal reasons like drug trafficking.
Sensors are even better without a wall that will announce their presence.
There's no reason we can't have both. Have a wall with sensors and other monitors and also have hundreds of feet of monitoring behind the wall.
....But there are several billion reasons we shouldn't have both......
In your opinion. In my opinion, it's money well spent to help secure our border.it's money well spent to help secure our border.
Fine. Please share with us your business case that makes it "money well spent." Don't forget, a business case has both the financial costs and the financial returns..
Fail. That's not a business case....That's a BS response.It's a down payment for securing the future of America.
The thing is though, the type of surveillance and sensors that would make such a wall practical would work without the wall in the first place. I actually support adding monitoring along the border that would catch people crossing as many are also doing so for other illegal reasons like drug trafficking.
Sensors are even better without a wall that will announce their presence.
There's no reason we can't have both. Have a wall with sensors and other monitors and also have hundreds of feet of monitoring behind the wall.
....But there are several billion reasons we shouldn't have both......
In your opinion. In my opinion, it's money well spent to help secure our border.it's money well spent to help secure our border.
Fine. Please share with us your business case that makes it "money well spent." Don't forget, a business case has both the financial costs and the financial returns..
Fail. That's not a business case....That's a BS response.It's a down payment for securing the future of America.
Fine. Please share with us your business case that shows it to be "money well spent." Don't forget, a business case has both the financial costs and the financial returns..
There's no reason we can't have both. Have a wall with sensors and other monitors and also have hundreds of feet of monitoring behind the wall.
....But there are several billion reasons we shouldn't have both......
In your opinion. In my opinion, it's money well spent to help secure our border.it's money well spent to help secure our border.
Fine. Please share with us your business case that makes it "money well spent." Don't forget, a business case has both the financial costs and the financial returns..
Fail. That's not a business case....That's a BS response.It's a down payment for securing the future of America.
I personally don't care if you're not convinced. The only person I care about convincing is myself.
Fine. Please share with us your business case that shows it to be "money well spent." Don't forget, a business case has both the financial costs and the financial returns..
Seriously? You think the wall is strictly a financial investment. While it will save billions spent on illegal aliens each year, it will also mean a lot less people dying at the hands of illegals. Between criminals and drunk drivers, too many people die each year because of an illegal alien that shouldn't be here.
If liberals started basing things on the financial returns, most of their policies would never see the light of day.
Seriously? You think the wall is strictly a financial investment.
There's no reason we can't have both. Have a wall with sensors and other monitors and also have hundreds of feet of monitoring behind the wall.
....But there are several billion reasons we shouldn't have both......
In your opinion. In my opinion, it's money well spent to help secure our border.it's money well spent to help secure our border.
Fine. Please share with us your business case that makes it "money well spent." Don't forget, a business case has both the financial costs and the financial returns..
Fail. That's not a business case....That's a BS response.It's a down payment for securing the future of America.
I personally don't care if you're not convinced. The only person I care about convincing is myself.
YOU made the claim that it's money well spent. Back up your claim.
You care only about convincing yourself. Do you, thus, post here as a means for convincing yourself?
If you had any real basis for your views, you'd come prepared with the case that gives them teeth, but instead here you are convincing yourself.....Go sit down and let the grown-ups have a conversation.
