3 stupid myths republicans believe

Iraq would not be the mess it is today if Saddam were there. Now it's besties with Iran. Smooth move there, Republicans. Way to go, war monkeys.

Wow, now THAT is a statement! Iraq would be better off with Saddam Hussein in power? This is the guy who used WMD's on his neighbors as well as his own people? The man responsible for the deaths of hundreds of thousands of people? A sadistic sociopath with dreams of becoming the next Nebuchadnezzar. Getting rid of him was the best thing that ever happened to Iraq.

And he was a state sponsor of terrorism for over 20 years. Yes, only in the world of the Left are people better off living under a brutal dictator. That's why they love Obama so much.

Just saying something is true and proving it are two different things. We can prove Republicans tricked us into Iraq. We can prove Republicans ruined our economy through deregulation. We can prove the Bush Tax cut fiasco was just that.

But even our CIA says the poison gas used in Iraq could have come from Iran and probably did since the two countries were at war. We know the sanctions Bush I put in place limited Saddam's ability to do anything. Republicans lie endlessly in a foolish attempt to disguise their terrible debacles. Even their ignorant base repeats he same lies over and over again until those lies are firming entrenched in their tiny minds. But this is all fairly recent. History can't be rewritten so soon after we witnessed it with our own eyes.
 
Lame-o dodge.

I can't blame you for not replying substantively though, since your side has no substance, and no idea what it's doing, which we saw during the Bush War Monkey's Iraq Debacle.

what am i dodging you dope?

what does what my opinion have to do with obama failing?

The dodge is your refusal to say what you think the US should be doing instead.

C'mon. Let us learn from you.

I mean, I understand that the GOP's warmongering is really awful politics, and that conservatives have to find roundabout ways to call for a more aggressive military response without sounding like they haven't learned any lessons from the Iraq War. The crushing election losses suffered by the GOP after their Iraq War flop was tough to take, I get that.

yawn

ONCE AGAIN; i already did answer you. your Messiah should have at least been able to find some common ground on Syria; more than just having Syria's buddy Russia handle their chemical weapons.
obama bungled the missile treay issue in Europe. he should have backed missile defenses in Poland and other E European countries.
obama should not have loosened sanctions on Iran
obama should not have thrown the weight of the US governemnt behind the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt; endorsing them.
obama should not have drawn his "red line" on Syria without doing anything


etc etc etc


ur a joke; it's not that im dodging; that's you projecting. it doesnt matter what i say; yo will find a way to make your one-track rant about Iraq the main focus
 
Wow, now THAT is a statement! Iraq would be better off with Saddam Hussein in power? This is the guy who used WMD's on his neighbors as well as his own people? The man responsible for the deaths of hundreds of thousands of people? A sadistic sociopath with dreams of becoming the next Nebuchadnezzar. Getting rid of him was the best thing that ever happened to Iraq.

And he was a state sponsor of terrorism for over 20 years. Yes, only in the world of the Left are people better off living under a brutal dictator. That's why they love Obama so much.

Just saying something is true and proving it are two different things. We can prove Republicans tricked us into Iraq. We can prove Republicans ruined our economy through deregulation. We can prove the Bush Tax cut fiasco was just that.

But even our CIA says the poison gas used in Iraq could have come from Iran and probably did since the two countries were at war. We know the sanctions Bush I put in place limited Saddam's ability to do anything. Republicans lie endlessly in a foolish attempt to disguise their terrible debacles. Even their ignorant base repeats he same lies over and over again until those lies are firming entrenched in their tiny minds. But this is all fairly recent. History can't be rewritten so soon after we witnessed it with our own eyes.

if you could prove there were "tricks" on Iraq you would have. you're a JOKE. but i bet y ou got the whole MoveOn.org "IMPEACH BUSH!!" T-SHIRT SET and coffee mug.

talk about a mindless moronic left-wing idiot PROJECTING. you can "prove" any of that. like i said if you could have you would have

so how is the bush war crimes trial and impeachment going leftard?
 
several Democrats are on record promising to de-fund the Iraq War if elected to a MAJORITY in 2006; which they were

Google is your friend dope

So? That doesn't mean it was official Democratic Party policy. Besides, the war couldn't really be ended the proper and responsible way until we replaced the GOP Warmongerers with a Democratic President, which we thankfully did.

And he showed that he was the same warmonger as W. He continued W's policy in Iraq, expanded Afghanistan, attacked Libya and has been all over Syria's shit.

Even while he does what you opposed you praise him for not doing what he's doing.

Here's 3 stupid myths Democrats believe:

1) Democrats were lied to about WMDs. Clinton said he saw the same evidence and came to the same conclusions AFTER W didn't find WMDs. Democrats were in the White House 8 of 9 years before the buildup to the war began and you were all over the Senate intelligence committee. For the W lied to be true, you would have to be the dumbest people on the planet and he would have to be an evil genius. Even his greatest supporters don't think he's a genius.

2) Taxing the rich doesn't cost jobs. You people know as much about economics as dolphins do about forest fires. Progressive taxes are pure job killers, and all economic data supports that.

3) Gun laws reduce crime. There is no evidence to support that and substantial evidence that contradicts it.

Liberals are such sheep. Now, baaa-ck to what you were saying...
 
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And he was a state sponsor of terrorism for over 20 years. Yes, only in the world of the Left are people better off living under a brutal dictator. That's why they love Obama so much.

Just saying something is true and proving it are two different things. We can prove Republicans tricked us into Iraq. We can prove Republicans ruined our economy through deregulation. We can prove the Bush Tax cut fiasco was just that.

But even our CIA says the poison gas used in Iraq could have come from Iran and probably did since the two countries were at war. We know the sanctions Bush I put in place limited Saddam's ability to do anything. Republicans lie endlessly in a foolish attempt to disguise their terrible debacles. Even their ignorant base repeats he same lies over and over again until those lies are firming entrenched in their tiny minds. But this is all fairly recent. History can't be rewritten so soon after we witnessed it with our own eyes.

if you could prove there were "tricks" on Iraq you would have. you're a JOKE. but i bet y ou got the whole MoveOn.org "IMPEACH BUSH!!" T-SHIRT SET and coffee mug.

talk about a mindless moronic left-wing idiot PROJECTING. you can "prove" any of that. like i said if you could have you would have

so how is the bush war crimes trial and impeachment going leftard?

" tax cut fiasco"

you mean the tax cuts obama made 98% of PERMANENT? That tax cut "fiasco"?

the only one lying here is you
 
Would that be the President who accepted the Nobel Peace Prize and then authorized his very own "surge"? Is that the guy you're talking about? The one who has mismanaged the Middle East so badly that the Taliban is back taking control in Afghanistan while Iraq heads towards civil war? "Proper and responsible"? More like clueless and irresponsible...

Iraq would not be the mess it is today if Saddam were there. Now it's besties with Iran. Smooth move there, Republicans. Way to go, war monkeys.

Wow, now THAT is a statement! Iraq would be better off with Saddam Hussein in power? This is the guy who used WMD's on his neighbors as well as his own people? The man responsible for the deaths of hundreds of thousands of people? A sadistic sociopath with dreams of becoming the next Nebuchadnezzar. Getting rid of him was the best thing that ever happened to Iraq. Saying Iraq was better with Saddam Hussein in power is like saying Nazi Germany was better off with Hitler because the Cold War made a mess of post war East Germany!

Now Iraq is a close ally of Iran. Way to go, war mongers. Smooth move.
 
And he was a state sponsor of terrorism for over 20 years. Yes, only in the world of the Left are people better off living under a brutal dictator. That's why they love Obama so much.

Just saying something is true and proving it are two different things. We can prove Republicans tricked us into Iraq. We can prove Republicans ruined our economy through deregulation. We can prove the Bush Tax cut fiasco was just that.

But even our CIA says the poison gas used in Iraq could have come from Iran and probably did since the two countries were at war. We know the sanctions Bush I put in place limited Saddam's ability to do anything. Republicans lie endlessly in a foolish attempt to disguise their terrible debacles. Even their ignorant base repeats he same lies over and over again until those lies are firming entrenched in their tiny minds. But this is all fairly recent. History can't be rewritten so soon after we witnessed it with our own eyes.

if you could prove there were "tricks" on Iraq you would have. you're a JOKE. but i bet y ou got the whole MoveOn.org "IMPEACH BUSH!!" T-SHIRT SET and coffee mug.

talk about a mindless moronic left-wing idiot PROJECTING. you can "prove" any of that. like i said if you could have you would have

so how is the bush war crimes trial and impeachment going leftard?

The joke is he cannot prove any of that. The Republicans did not ruin the economy with deregulation. Tha'ts a myth. They did not lie us into war in Iraq. That's a myth. They cannot prove the Bush tax cuts were a fiasco. If they were Obama and the solidly Democratic Congress would not have voted to extend them. Yet they repeat this nonsense every time. They get the stuffing beat out of them with actual facts and arguments, run away, and then come back several threads later and repeat it all over again. It's like they have no capacity to learn at all.
 
Iraq would not be the mess it is today if Saddam were there. Now it's besties with Iran. Smooth move there, Republicans. Way to go, war monkeys.

Wow, now THAT is a statement! Iraq would be better off with Saddam Hussein in power? This is the guy who used WMD's on his neighbors as well as his own people? The man responsible for the deaths of hundreds of thousands of people? A sadistic sociopath with dreams of becoming the next Nebuchadnezzar. Getting rid of him was the best thing that ever happened to Iraq. Saying Iraq was better with Saddam Hussein in power is like saying Nazi Germany was better off with Hitler because the Cold War made a mess of post war East Germany!

Now Iraq is a close ally of Iran. Way to go, war mongers. Smooth move.

Thank Obama, again. He's been in charge of foreign policy for the last 5 years. Or weren't you aware of that?
 
by the way leftard; demanding loans; taxpayer-backed loans for mortgages; over $2 TRILLION worth; be made to people in the name of "fairness" to people that couldnt repay them is, ironcially, makikng DEREGULATION THE LAW. Because before that about 20% down is what you needed to get a mortgage.

that whole thing was LIBERALS IDEA. AND YES; some LIBERAL REPUBLICANS like Bush went along with it

why do you losers insist on lying to yourselves?
 
Iraq would not be the mess it is today if Saddam were there. Now it's besties with Iran. Smooth move there, Republicans. Way to go, war monkeys.

Wow, now THAT is a statement! Iraq would be better off with Saddam Hussein in power? This is the guy who used WMD's on his neighbors as well as his own people? The man responsible for the deaths of hundreds of thousands of people? A sadistic sociopath with dreams of becoming the next Nebuchadnezzar. Getting rid of him was the best thing that ever happened to Iraq. Saying Iraq was better with Saddam Hussein in power is like saying Nazi Germany was better off with Hitler because the Cold War made a mess of post war East Germany!

Now Iraq is a close ally of Iran. Way to go, war mongers. Smooth move.

now you have been reduced to babbling the same line over and over.

what a tool you are
 
Conservative Myth's & Legends, past & present.

1. Bush won the 2000 election.
2. Saddam's Iraq had a WMD program
3. Iraqis will welcome US liberation by military force
4 Iran will nuke Israel as soon as they get a nuke
5 Clinton's tax hikes will cause recession
6 The Bush Presidency was going well till the Democrats won in 2006
7.There is massive voter fraud in Democratc-run precints
8 Canadians pour into the US soley to obtain medical services
9 The minumim wage kills jobs
10 Massive inflation from QE and the stimilus is right around the corner
11 Ill-treatment of black Americans over the centuries has nothing to do with their problems, it's actually their fault.
12 Raped women do not get pregnant
13 Obama got played by Putin in Syria

1. Why do you think they are so opposed to voter integrity after hand picking which democrat counties to count chads in a desperate attempt to win? If they want to talk about a fair election, networks like CNN shouldn't have called the state of Florida early before the polling stations closed in the western half of Florida. At the very least, had a total recount of the entire state, over voter tally do-overs with a small hand pick of counties. The Democrats will spend their later years in rocking chairs, still looking back to sad excuses for losing Florida.

2. I'm pretty sure Clinton left his presidency believing that, else the United Nations would have had a much easier time with inspectors and would have pushed towards lifted those sanctions imposed on Iraq. Of course members of a UN Security Council having been caught in bribery from Saddam doesn't help matters much.

3. The Iraqi people did welcome the American troops.

4. This administration will not take the uranium enrichment situation or the nation of Iran seriously. Like Syria, Obama will continue to be seen as a mere commentator who loves to hear himself talk, with respect to foreign hot spots that occur. No nation could possibly take any of his condemnation speeches seriously.

5. Clinton drastically downsized the military through early retirement as well as cut military supplies, where items such as body armor came in short supply when President Bush put them back in Iraq. The economic boom was the result in large part to the computer age and the surge in programmers, surrounding all the big hype behind y2k.

6. Well the Republicans under Clinton had a fairly good track record, in comparison to the Democrats after 2006. Of course he was smart enough to work across the aisle to get results, instead of always looking for ways to openly blame them to create division as Obama has.

7. Dems oppose addressing the issue of voter integrity. Yet it's all about the "Republicans" who are to be viewed as not offering solutions, but simply labeled in the public eye as the party of no. Now there's a myth.

8. Of course Newfoundland and Labrador Premier Danny Williams wandered into the United States to simply find use for his passport, I'm sure the heart surgery was just an after thought. The Canadian healthcare system proved once again to be too vastly superior for him to seek attention elsewhere, right? This is the butt joke of any good liberal debate on healthcare.

9. Actually Obamacare has already been able to do a pretty good job of keeping this economy stagnant. Why else are the Democrats that are in re-election, happen to be running from the subject? They are certainly not embracing it in the same way as Obama had once boasted, before all the implementation troubles and delays.

11. You can always count on liberal democrats to turn the discussion into one of racism, when the progressive policies aren't embraced or they can no longer defend them in a debate.

12. I won't entertain the views of just one or two Republicans, any more than you will find progressives attempt to defend one of Joe Biden's many grafts.

13. Could be because Obama hasn't been able to stand up to Putin. He almost comes across as Obama is beneath him, in the form having any real political power worth adhering to.
 
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A "few" myths liberals believe...

Poor people are poor because of the white man holding them down.
Conservatives don't like clean air, clean water, clean food, etc.
Liberal politicians don't get in bed with rich corporations.
Obamacare was really about improving healthcare.

I'm sure Obama was in total shock when he traveled to Martha's Vineyard and found it full of rich people living there. He would have no intentions of choosing the rich over those gulf states affected by the oil spill, and in desperate need for ANY help to stimulate their damaged tourism profit numbers. A president who no doubt much rather use his own popularity from a rather historic moment, to fully sympathize with those needs of the "middle class" under such a tragic event, over his own lavished lifestyle needs.
 
the TRUTH about unemployment !! :up:

In a memo to clients provided to Secrets, David John Marotta calculates the actual unemployment rate of those not working at a sky-high 37.2 percent, not the 6.7 percent advertised by the Fed, and the Misery Index at over 14, not the 8 claimed by the government.

Marotta, who recently advised those worried about an imploding economy to get a gun, said that the government isn't being honest in how it calculates those out of the workforce or inflation, the two numbers used to get the Misery Index figure.

Be prepared: Wall Street adviser recommends guns, ammo for protection in collapse | WashingtonExaminer.com

A top financial advisor, worried that Obamacare, the NSA spying scandal and spiraling national debt is increasing the chances for a fiscal and social disaster, is recommending that Americans prepare a “bug-out bag” that includes food, a gun and ammo to help them stay alive.

David John Marotta, a Wall Street expert and financial advisor and Forbes contributor, said in a note to investors, “Firearms are the last item on the list, but they are on the list. There are some terrible people in this world. And you are safer when your trusted neighbors have firearms.”

any logical, reasonable, honest questions from you libertards ??

Sure ... 37.2% unemployment ... exactly how retarded are you rightwingnuts?
 
the TRUTH about unemployment !! :up:

In a memo to clients provided to Secrets, David John Marotta calculates the actual unemployment rate of those not working at a sky-high 37.2 percent, not the 6.7 percent advertised by the Fed, and the Misery Index at over 14, not the 8 claimed by the government.

Marotta, who recently advised those worried about an imploding economy to get a gun, said that the government isn't being honest in how it calculates those out of the workforce or inflation, the two numbers used to get the Misery Index figure.

Be prepared: Wall Street adviser recommends guns, ammo for protection in collapse | WashingtonExaminer.com

A top financial advisor, worried that Obamacare, the NSA spying scandal and spiraling national debt is increasing the chances for a fiscal and social disaster, is recommending that Americans prepare a “bug-out bag” that includes food, a gun and ammo to help them stay alive.

David John Marotta, a Wall Street expert and financial advisor and Forbes contributor, said in a note to investors, “Firearms are the last item on the list, but they are on the list. There are some terrible people in this world. And you are safer when your trusted neighbors have firearms.”

any logical, reasonable, honest questions from you libertards ??

Sure ... 37.2% unemployment ... exactly how retarded are you rightwingnuts?

You honestly think that 6.7 unemployment figure is a true depiction of the current job situation, with those who have run out of unemployment and are unable to find work? I mean you have heard of U-6, haven't you? How about the misery index? Just how delusional do you have to be to think the economy is actually improving for that 6.7 figure to be accurate?
 
the TRUTH about unemployment !! :up:



Be prepared: Wall Street adviser recommends guns, ammo for protection in collapse | WashingtonExaminer.com



any logical, reasonable, honest questions from you libertards ??

Sure ... 37.2% unemployment ... exactly how retarded are you rightwingnuts?

You honestly think that 6.7 unemployment figure is a true depiction of the current job situation, with those who have run out of unemployment and are unable to find work? I mean you have heard of U-6, haven't you? How about the misery index? Just how delusional do you have to be to think the economy is actually improving for that 6.7 figure to be accurate?

As delusional as Obama wants him. :eusa_eh:
 
One of their biggest myths is that if you don't spend any money, you can pay down debt.

Every businessman knows that it takes money to make money. How did Republicans miss that lesson. I guess their economic policy is just as good as their foreign policy and their understanding of science.

LOL...what every businessperson "knows" is that you can't continually spend more than you take in and stay in business for very long. That's a lesson that people in government haven't quite grasped yet because THEY get to run deficits and simply print money to pay their debts.

And why you think liberals excel at foreign policy is a mystery to me, little buddy...God knows that Barack Obama doesn't have a clue what he's doing on that subject. "Leading from behind?" Seriously?:cuckoo::cuckoo::cuckoo:

Republicans didn't just destabilize the economy, they destabilized the ENTIRE Middle East.

Just one question, Deanie...is the Middle East more stable or less stable after five years of Obama foreign policy? Anyone looking at what's going on there NOW is going to be hard pressed to point to Obama foreign policy successes and is going to have an even harder time telling you what the Obama Middle East policy is going forward. Why? Because this Administration really doesn't HAVE a Middle East policy! After five years they don't know what to do!
 
LOL...what every businessperson "knows" is that you can't continually spend more than you take in and stay in business for very long. That's a lesson that people in government haven't quite grasped yet because THEY get to run deficits and simply print money to pay their debts.

And why you think liberals excel at foreign policy is a mystery to me, little buddy...God knows that Barack Obama doesn't have a clue what he's doing on that subject. "Leading from behind?" Seriously?:cuckoo::cuckoo::cuckoo:

Republicans didn't just destabilize the economy, they destabilized the ENTIRE Middle East.

Just one question, Deanie...is the Middle East more stable or less stable after five years of Obama foreign policy? Anyone looking at what's going on there NOW is going to be hard pressed to point to Obama foreign policy successes and is going to have an even harder time telling you what the Obama Middle East policy is going forward. Why? Because this Administration really doesn't HAVE a Middle East policy! After five years they don't know what to do!

The Dictators who had their heavy artillery aimed at their people during GW, or any other president, represented a more stable Middle East?
Is suppression of speech your definition of stability?
 
the TRUTH about unemployment !! :up:



Be prepared: Wall Street adviser recommends guns, ammo for protection in collapse | WashingtonExaminer.com



any logical, reasonable, honest questions from you libertards ??

Sure ... 37.2% unemployment ... exactly how retarded are you rightwingnuts?

You honestly think that 6.7 unemployment figure is a true depiction of the current job situation, with those who have run out of unemployment and are unable to find work? I mean you have heard of U-6, haven't you? How about the misery index? Just how delusional do you have to be to think the economy is actually improving for that 6.7 figure to be accurate?
Thanks, your answer to my question is exactly the answer I expected. You rightwingnuts are completely retarded. I said nothing about the U3 rate versus the U6 rate nor did I say anything about the misery index (which is not actually an economic indicator anyway). What I did was question just how retarded you rightwingnuts have to be to accept the idiotic notion that the unemployment rate is 37.2%. :cuckoo:
 
Republicans didn't just destabilize the economy, they destabilized the ENTIRE Middle East.

Just one question, Deanie...is the Middle East more stable or less stable after five years of Obama foreign policy? Anyone looking at what's going on there NOW is going to be hard pressed to point to Obama foreign policy successes and is going to have an even harder time telling you what the Obama Middle East policy is going forward. Why? Because this Administration really doesn't HAVE a Middle East policy! After five years they don't know what to do!

The Dictators who had their heavy artillery aimed at their people during GW, or any other president, represented a more stable Middle East?
Is suppression of speech your definition of stability?

Ah, I hate to point out the OBVIOUS, Indie...but George W. Bush did something about the dictator who was killing his own people! As opposed to Barack Obama who drew a red line in the sand over Assad using chemical weapons against his people and then when push came to shove declared that he hadn't REALLY drawn that line at all!
 
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