4.6% unemployment rate

[Redfish]

its not really conservatives vs liberals. its really constitutionalists vs socialists.

That's a very conservative thing to say. You didn't know?

BTW, your service motion sucks. not enough body turn.

Are you talking about my Avatar...the one with Roger fucking Federer?

yes, Federer has always had a funky serve. Very effective, but funky. Just proves the point that you don't have to have classic form to win. McEnroe also had a strange serve, but won. Del Potro probably has the most classic service form on the tour today.

You are insane. Sane people would give up their left nut to serve like Fedya. And, no he doesn't have a rotation problem, it is as full as it gets, you got eyesight problem.

that's one of his better ones. Right shoulder was still too far back when he struck the ball. But you are correct, most tennis players would give a nut to have his game. HIs real strength has always been his mental game. physical skills can only get you so far, gotta have the head game too in order to win the big ones.

 

[Roudy]

the number of people who have lost their jobs and stopped looking is also the highest in 40 years. Therefore the recent "unemployment numbers" are meaningless.

Bullshit!

When Bush left there were 734,000 workers who had given up looking and there are 591,000 now, hardly a 40 year record!!!!!

Again, throughout the Bush presidency the economy was fine. You are taking the numbers from one very small moment in history, the mortgage collapse, which truth be told both parties are to blame for.

 

[Roudy]

many handicapped are employed, students and moms have part time jobs. I had a part time job at 14, have you ever had a job?

And those that aren't are out of the workforce

No reason for you to force them back in

Yup, the record 95 million out of work is all because of record retired, handicapped, or people under 16.

Liberal logic.

Well, none of it is people under 16. The survey only includes age 15 and older and only 16 and older data are published. But not in the labor force includes 24,147,000 disabled, 26,108,000 age 65+ who are not disabled, and 14,998,000 students age 16-24.

So that's 65,243,000 just from those three. There are younger retired, older students, stay home spouses, independently wealthy, and others who don't want or don't need a job, or can't work. There are less than half a million who have "given up."


Sources: Table A-6. Employment status of the civilian population by sex, age, and disability status, not seasonally adjusted
A-16. Employment status of the civilian noninstitutional population 16 to 24 years of age by school enrollment, age, sex, race, Hispanic or Latino ethnicity, and educational attainment

So therefore, under Obama, the labor participation force is the lowest it's been in the last 40 years. Meaning the number of people who have lost their jobs and stopped looking is also the highest in 40 years. Therefore the recent "unemployment numbers" are meaningless.

U6 first and foremost answers the question - HOW TOUGH IT IS TO FIND A JOB?

It is relatively easy to find a job nowadays and there are record number of job openings

Income has jumped back up as well:

All of these are consistent signs of solid job market for Americans.

Conservatives are down to their last straw grasping with LFPR that was well predicted to fall through 2030 based on demographics 20 years ago, well before anyone has heard of Obama and Great Recession.

Tell that to the 72% of Americans who thought the country is going in the wrong direction, the blacks, Latinos, and college graduates (with student loans) that can't find jobs. It wasn't race that got a trump elected, it was the fact that the economy sucked, people were unhappy, and Hussien Obama and Hillary kept telling us how great things were.

 

[Roudy]

And those that aren't are out of the workforce

No reason for you to force them back in

Yup, the record 95 million out of work is all because of record retired, handicapped, or people under 16.

Liberal logic.

Well, none of it is people under 16. The survey only includes age 15 and older and only 16 and older data are published. But not in the labor force includes 24,147,000 disabled, 26,108,000 age 65+ who are not disabled, and 14,998,000 students age 16-24.

So that's 65,243,000 just from those three. There are younger retired, older students, stay home spouses, independently wealthy, and others who don't want or don't need a job, or can't work. There are less than half a million who have "given up."


Sources: Table A-6. Employment status of the civilian population by sex, age, and disability status, not seasonally adjusted
A-16. Employment status of the civilian noninstitutional population 16 to 24 years of age by school enrollment, age, sex, race, Hispanic or Latino ethnicity, and educational attainment

So therefore, under Obama, the labor participation force is the lowest it's been in the last 40 years. Meaning the number of people who have lost their jobs and stopped looking is also the highest in 40 years. Therefore the recent "unemployment numbers" are meaningless.

U6 first and foremost answers the question - HOW TOUGH IT IS TO FIND A JOB?

It is relatively easy to find a job nowadays and there are record number of job openings

Income has jumped back up as well:

All of these are consistent signs of solid job market for Americans.

Conservatives are down to their last straw grasping with LFPR that was well predicted to fall through 2030 based on demographics 20 years ago, well before anyone has heard of Obama and Great Recession.

Yep, college grads can easily find part time jobs waiting tables. What great results Obama has brought.

Yup, there's always a great position at the local coffee shop as a barista.

 

[Roudy]

Bullshit. We gave Obama a chance to prove himself. He failed. He had the perfect opportunity to heal the country and bring us back together, but instead he got us farther apart and more divided than ever. He increased racial unrest "the Cambridge police acted stupidly" "if I had a son he would look like Trayvon" "the USA is not a Christian nation"

He let his radical leftist agenda and hatred of the USA drive everything he did, and he failed in every was a president can fail.

The vote in November was not just a rejection of Hillary, it was a rejection of Obama, liberalism, and democrats. Until you on the left realize that, the dem party will never win anything again. Look what you fools have done since the election: put the idiot Pelosi back in charge and are looking at making a radical muslim chairman of the DNC. Amazingly stupid.

Stop lying.

Republicans banded together on inauguration day to block everything Obama proposed.

Media folks like Rush Limbaugh openly expressed hope Obama would fail.

Rank and file Republicans and conservatives gave birth to the TEA party to oppose Obama.

wrong again. We wanted his radical leftist policies to fail, not him personally. If he had tried to be president of all americans he probably would have been successful, but his radical left agenda prevented that. Sad but true.

The left elected him to move the country to the left. Wanting his policies to fail is wanting him to fail.

OK, lets assume that you are right. Did he succeed? Did the country ratify his moves to the left last month?

LOLOL

Now you're deflecting from your own point lie -- which was that the right gave Obama every chance.

The right didn't even have a say. Obama had both houses for two years and did what he wanted, remember?

 

[AntonToo]

Again, throughout the Bush presidency the economy was fine.

jeesus fn christ I'm running out of face-palm pics with you guys.

It wasn't fine ignoramus, 2000's economy was a disaster defined by a dot.com bust flowing into huge real estate and finance bubble expansion and explosion into Great Recession.

 

[Roudy]

That's a very conservative thing to say. You didn't know?

BTW, your service motion sucks. not enough body turn.

Are you talking about my Avatar...the one with Roger fucking Federer?

yes, Federer has always had a funky serve. Very effective, but funky. Just proves the point that you don't have to have classic form to win. McEnroe also had a strange serve, but won. Del Potro probably has the most classic service form on the tour today.

You are insane. Sane people would give up their left nut to serve like Fedya. And, no he doesn't have a rotation problem, it is as full as it gets, you got eyesight problem.

that's one of his better ones. Right shoulder was still too far back when he struck the ball. But you are correct, most tennis players would give a nut to have his game. HIs real strength has always been his mental game. physical skills can only get you so far, gotta have the head game too in order to win the big ones.

Through my entertainment connections, I've had a chance to watch the majors up close from the inside the VIP box where Federer, Djokovic, and Raonics relatives would sit. My opinion is Federer is artistry in motion, and Djokovic is technical flawlessness. Nobody else comes close to these two. That said, Federer has always been my favorite, he brought so much to the game, especially his one handed backhand, which Stan Wowrinka now hits better (Federer taught him LOL). It's going to be hard seeing Federer go, I will truly miss him. They say he's getting ready to win one last major and then retire.

 

[Roudy]

Again, throughout the Bush presidency the economy was fine.

jeesus fn christ I'm running out of face-palm pics with you guys.

It wasn't fine ignoramus, 2000's economy was a disaster defined by a dot.com bust flowing into huge real estate and finance bubble expansion and explosion into Great Recession.

When Bush took over the market had already crashed, he rehabilitated it and it was fine until the crash of 2008, which Democrat policies were mostly to blame.

 

[Siete]

wtf is the big deal with unemployment ?

Trump will have it down to 2.5 on his first day in office ... even if he does have to tax the shit out of the rest of the world and drive up US consumer prices ..


we're saved !

 

[AntonToo]

Again, throughout the Bush presidency the economy was fine.

jeesus fn christ I'm running out of face-palm pics with you guys.

It wasn't fine ignoramus, 2000's economy was a disaster defined by a dot.com bust flowing into huge real estate and finance bubble expansion and explosion into Great Recession.

When Bush took over the market had already crashed, he rehabilitated it and it was fine until the crash of 2008, which Democrat policies were mostly to blame.

That is not a clear eyed analysis, that is mindless politico dog washing.

Crash didn't happen out of nowhere, it happened because growth in mid 2000s was a MIRAGE and when reality hit we had to pay up with a huge hang over.

 

[edthecynic]

Republicans banded together on inauguration day to block everything Obama proposed.

Media folks like Rush Limbaugh openly expressed hope Obama would fail.

wrong again. We wanted his radical leftist policies to fail, not him personally. If he had tried to be president of all americans he probably would have been successful, but his radical left agenda prevented that. Sad but true.

LIAR!
On the day Obama was elected your anti-American MessiahRushie said he hoped ALL average Americans would SUFFER the loss of their jobs, not that he hoped that Obama's "policies" would fail.

November 5, 2008
RUSH: I hope all your Joe the Plumbers are unemployed in six months! There.

October 31, 2008
RUSH: Joe the Plumber. Now, Joe the Plumber is an average citizen

February 13, 2009
I Hope the Stimulus Package Fails
RUSH: I hope it prolongs the recession.

 

[Roudy]

Again, throughout the Bush presidency the economy was fine.

jeesus fn christ I'm running out of face-palm pics with you guys.

It wasn't fine ignoramus, 2000's economy was a disaster defined by a dot.com bust flowing into huge real estate and finance bubble expansion and explosion into Great Recession.

When Bush took over the market had already crashed, he rehabilitated it and it was fine until the crash of 2008, which Democrat policies were mostly to blame.

That is not a clear eyed analysis, that is mindless politico dog washing.

Crash didn't happen out of nowhere, it happened because growth in mid 2000s was a MIRAGE and when reality hit we had to pay up with a huge hang over.

Crash happened because the Democrats forced banks to give shady loans to unqualified people, the banks were gambling with people's money, and they weren't being regulated.

 

[edthecynic]

the number of people who have lost their jobs and stopped looking is also the highest in 40 years. Therefore the recent "unemployment numbers" are meaningless.

Bullshit!

When Bush left there were 734,000 workers who had given up looking and there are 591,000 now, hardly a 40 year record!!!!!

Again, throughout the Bush presidency the economy was fine. You are taking the numbers from one very small moment in history, the mortgage collapse, which truth be told both parties are to blame for.

So Bush's 80 million not in the labor force and 12 million unemployed were signs of a "fine" economy.

 

[edthecynic]

Crash happened because the Democrats forced banks to give shady loans to unqualified people, the banks were gambling with people's money, and they weren't being regulated.

LIAR!
That was Bush's Dec 2003 ADDI that gave loans to unqualified buyers with bad credit for more than the property was worth. The Democratic Party was a powerless minority in 2003.

 

[AntonToo]

Again, throughout the Bush presidency the economy was fine.

jeesus fn christ I'm running out of face-palm pics with you guys.

It wasn't fine ignoramus, 2000's economy was a disaster defined by a dot.com bust flowing into huge real estate and finance bubble expansion and explosion into Great Recession.

When Bush took over the market had already crashed, he rehabilitated it and it was fine until the crash of 2008, which Democrat policies were mostly to blame.

That is not a clear eyed analysis, that is mindless politico dog washing.

Crash didn't happen out of nowhere, it happened because growth in mid 2000s was a MIRAGE and when reality hit we had to pay up with a huge hang over.

Crash happened because the Democrats forced banks to give shady loans to unqualified people, the banks were gambling with people's money, and they weren't being regulated.

Yea, the Democrats-did-it. Totally. You got it. You always knew it and now you know it.

Simple, wonderful, thoughtless.

Be all that as it may, you still have to admit that your statement about how economy was fine during Bush's stay in office is absolute nonsense.

 

[edthecynic]

Again, throughout the Bush presidency the economy was fine.

jeesus fn christ I'm running out of face-palm pics with you guys.

It wasn't fine ignoramus, 2000's economy was a disaster defined by a dot.com bust flowing into huge real estate and finance bubble expansion and explosion into Great Recession.

When Bush took over the market had already crashed, he rehabilitated it and it was fine until the crash of 2008, which Democrat policies were mostly to blame.

That is not a clear eyed analysis, that is mindless politico dog washing.

Crash didn't happen out of nowhere, it happened because growth in mid 2000s was a MIRAGE and when reality hit we had to pay up with a huge hang over.

Crash happened because the Democrats forced banks to give shady loans to unqualified people, the banks were gambling with people's money, and they weren't being regulated.

Yea, the Democrats-did-it. Totally. You got it. You always knew it and now you know it.

Simple, wonderful, thoughtless.

Be all that as it may, you still have to admit that your statement about how economy was fine during Bush's stay in office is absolute nonsense.

That is because they get their fake news from their MessiahRushie, who just told them today that the UE rate when Bush left office was the same 4.6% we have today.
And they are STUPID enough to believe it because they are too LAZY to check it.

 

[Faun]

Stop lying.

Republicans banded together on inauguration day to block everything Obama proposed.

Media folks like Rush Limbaugh openly expressed hope Obama would fail.

Rank and file Republicans and conservatives gave birth to the TEA party to oppose Obama.

wrong again. We wanted his radical leftist policies to fail, not him personally. If he had tried to be president of all americans he probably would have been successful, but his radical left agenda prevented that. Sad but true.

The left elected him to move the country to the left. Wanting his policies to fail is wanting him to fail.

OK, lets assume that you are right. Did he succeed? Did the country ratify his moves to the left last month?

LOLOL

Now you're deflecting from your own point lie -- which was that the right gave Obama every chance.

The right didn't even have a say. Obama had both houses for two years and did what he wanted, remember?

You know you're a nut, right?

 

[Faun]

Again, throughout the Bush presidency the economy was fine.

jeesus fn christ I'm running out of face-palm pics with you guys.

It wasn't fine ignoramus, 2000's economy was a disaster defined by a dot.com bust flowing into huge real estate and finance bubble expansion and explosion into Great Recession.

When Bush took over the market had already crashed, he rehabilitated it and it was fine until the crash of 2008, which Democrat policies were mostly to blame.

That's about as astute as your idiocy of how Obama got pretty much whatever he wanted during his first two years.

At any rate, the housing boom was thanks to Republican policies. Here's Bush, speaking to Republucans...

"Thanks to OUR policies, home ownership in America is at an all-time high!" - George Bush, 2004 RNC acceptance speech

 

[Faun]

Again, throughout the Bush presidency the economy was fine.

jeesus fn christ I'm running out of face-palm pics with you guys.

It wasn't fine ignoramus, 2000's economy was a disaster defined by a dot.com bust flowing into huge real estate and finance bubble expansion and explosion into Great Recession.

When Bush took over the market had already crashed, he rehabilitated it and it was fine until the crash of 2008, which Democrat policies were mostly to blame.

That is not a clear eyed analysis, that is mindless politico dog washing.

Crash didn't happen out of nowhere, it happened because growth in mid 2000s was a MIRAGE and when reality hit we had to pay up with a huge hang over.

Crash happened because the Democrats forced banks to give shady loans to unqualified people, the banks were gambling with people's money, and they weren't being regulated.

Bullshit.

• The US homeownership rate reached a record 69.2 percent in the second quarter of 2004. The number of homeowners in the United States reached 73.4 million, the most ever. And for the first time, the majority of minority Americans own their own homes.
  
  
• The President set a goal to increase the number of minority homeowners by 5.5 million families by the end of the decade. Through his homeownership challenge, the President called on the private sector to help in this effort. More than two dozen companies and organizations have made commitments to increase minority homeownership - including pledges to provide more than $1.1 trillion in mortgage purchases for minority homebuyers this decade.
  
  
• President Bush signed the $200 million-per-year American Dream Downpayment Act which will help approximately 40,000 families each year with their downpayment and closing costs.
  
  
• The Administration proposed the Zero-Downpayment Initiative to allow the Federal Housing Administration to insure mortgages for first-time homebuyers without a downpayment. Projections indicate this could generate over 150,000 new homeowners in the first year alone.
  
  
• President Bush proposed a new Single Family Affordable Housing Tax Credit to increase the supply of affordable homes.
  The President has proposed to more than double funding for the Self-Help Homeownership Opportunity Program (SHOP), where government and non-profit organizations work closely together to increase homeownership opportunities.
  
  
• The President proposed $2.7 billion in USDA home loan guarantees to support rural homeownership and $1.1 billion in direct loans for low-income borrowers unable to secure a mortgage through a conventional lender. These loans are expected to provide 42,800 homeownership opportunities to rural families across America.
  
  Record of Achievement - Expanding Home Ownership

 

[Faun]

jeesus fn christ I'm running out of face-palm pics with you guys.

It wasn't fine ignoramus, 2000's economy was a disaster defined by a dot.com bust flowing into huge real estate and finance bubble expansion and explosion into Great Recession.

When Bush took over the market had already crashed, he rehabilitated it and it was fine until the crash of 2008, which Democrat policies were mostly to blame.

That is not a clear eyed analysis, that is mindless politico dog washing.

Crash didn't happen out of nowhere, it happened because growth in mid 2000s was a MIRAGE and when reality hit we had to pay up with a huge hang over.

Crash happened because the Democrats forced banks to give shady loans to unqualified people, the banks were gambling with people's money, and they weren't being regulated.

Yea, the Democrats-did-it. Totally. You got it. You always knew it and now you know it.

Simple, wonderful, thoughtless.

Be all that as it may, you still have to admit that your statement about how economy was fine during Bush's stay in office is absolute nonsense.

That is because they get their fake news from their MessiahRushie, who just told them today that the UE rate when Bush left office was the same 4.6% we have today.
And they are STUPID enough to believe it because they are too LAZY to check it.

C'mon, he did not say that??