81% rate hike for Obamacare - enough yet?

[RealDave]

They wouldn't be hiking them by 81%, moron.

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This is an insurer request, dupe, and won't happen. By now you should know this is GOP bs...

So you're saying 81% just won't happen. What type of price hike will happen 50%, 70%?

He will never answer that because the truth is so embarrassing.

Already did. Lower cost rise than before ACA.

Yes, but you pulled that number out of your rear.

Actually, if you would pull your head out of fat ass & were informed, you would know that the ACA lowered the rate of increase for premiums.

 

[RealDave]

They wouldn't be hiking them by 81%, moron.

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This is an insurer request, dupe, and won't happen. By now you should know this is GOP bs...

So you're saying 81% just won't happen. What type of price hike will happen 50%, 70%?

He will never answer that because the truth is so embarrassing.

Already did. Lower cost rise than before ACA.

Horseshit.

See another ignorant fuck. You people are so stupid that you make me sick.

 

[EverCurious]

How about, I don't want health insurance because it's a scam. Who the hell are you to /force/ me to buy insurance that I do not want, and not only that, but to force me to pay for it for others as well.

44% of the "uninsured" idiots that jumped on ACA could have been on Medicare even /before/ ACA but the dumbasses didn't apply. The average administration cost to doctors/hospitals has nearly tripled /because/ of ACA - costs passed onto consumers. Insurance companies too are forced to offer coverage plans that are quite simply not financially sustainable - also passed onto consumers.

And all of that shit is on top of the reality that insurance is a rip-off. Fuck your fascist socialism you lazy bastards. You want to waste money on health insurance, then go earn it yourself.

 

[MarathonMike]

Let's watch as the trust fund rich white liberals laugh or yawn.

Always love people who don't know how to pay their own bills, where every day is Disneyland, safely ensconced behind walls and protected in those rich gated communities armed by armed guards, tell us what life is all about.

Well said.

 

[MarathonMike]

About time the GOP and its crony insurers stopped sabotaging and began fixing. Only the BS GOP propaganda machine and the dupes thought this was supposed to be a finished perfection. Go after costs which after all are the problem- our Big Health system costs much more than anywhere else, and only worked thru scams, cut offs, and not covering those with pre-existing. A GOP disgrace.

The disgrace is an unqualified black man putting a faulty system in place then expecting the white President to fix it.

OMG. Obamacare has saved thousands of lives.
Trumpcare : zero
Trump has sabatoged the ACA so idiots like you can carry his water..

Why do you call yourself "Reasonable"?

 

[MarathonMike]

About time the GOP and its crony insurers stopped sabotaging and began fixing. Only the BS GOP propaganda machine and the dupes thought this was supposed to be a finished perfection. Go after costs which after all are the problem- our Big Health system costs much more than anywhere else, and only worked thru scams, cut offs, and not covering those with pre-existing. A GOP disgrace.

The disgrace is an unqualified black man putting a faulty system in place then expecting the white President to fix it.

OMG. Obamacare has saved thousands of lives.
Trumpcare : zero
Trump has sabatoged the ACA so idiots like you can carry his water..

Why do you call yourself "Reasonable"?

You see I call myself MarathonMike because my name is Mike and I like to run marathons. Your name confuses me.

 

[Conservative65]

This is an insurer request, dupe, and won't happen. By now you should know this is GOP bs...

So you're saying 81% just won't happen. What type of price hike will happen 50%, 70%?

He will never answer that because the truth is so embarrassing.

Already did. Lower cost rise than before ACA.

Yes, but you pulled that number out of your rear.

Actually, if you would pull your head out of fat ass & were informed, you would know that the ACA lowered the rate of increase for premiums.

The claim by Obama was that it will lower premiums. The exact quote was . . no I'll let you watch then I'll watch you pucker up.

 

[Conservative65]

This is an insurer request, dupe, and won't happen. By now you should know this is GOP bs...

So you're saying 81% just won't happen. What type of price hike will happen 50%, 70%?

He will never answer that because the truth is so embarrassing.

Already did. Lower cost rise than before ACA.

Yes, but you pulled that number out of your rear.

Actually, if you would pull your head out of fat ass & were informed, you would know that the ACA lowered the rate of increase for premiums.

I'm still waiting on the proof and supporting evidence of a claim you made about me. Where is it, BOY?

 

[RealDave]

How about, I don't want health insurance because it's a scam. Who the hell are you to /force/ me to buy insurance that I do not want, and not only that, but to force me to pay for it for others as well.

44% of the "uninsured" idiots that jumped on ACA could have been on Medicare even /before/ ACA but the dumbasses didn't apply. The average administration cost to doctors/hospitals has nearly tripled /because/ of ACA - costs passed onto consumers. Insurance companies too are forced to offer coverage plans that are quite simply not financially sustainable - also passed onto consumers.

And all of that shit is on top of the reality that insurance is a rip-off. Fuck your fascist socialism you lazy bastards. You want to waste money on health insurance, then go earn it yourself.

Medicare or Medicaid. Dumbass.

And when your uninsured ass drops over with a heat attack & they take you to the ER, who the fuck is stuck paying you 450K bill?

Fuck your ignorance you stupid asshole. ilty You know nothing about the ACA.

No once forced insurance companies to offer any particular plan.

You are the moocher. You are the one who fails to accept your responsibility. Ypu want me top pay your medical care whrn you ingure yourself or have a medical emergency.

 

[sealybobo]

nope ..

WASHINGTON — Bipartisanship is suddenly the talk of Capitol Hill, where Republicans and Democrats are now expressing a tentative desire to join hands after a brutal debate over Obamacare repeal.

In the House, the "Problem Solvers" caucus, which consists of 43 members from both parties, put out a list of broad principles for a series of Obamacare tweaks.

"My hope is we can be responsible legislators and recognize we can take on those cost issues, we can take on the issue of health care, but let's do it together," said Rep. Tom Reed, R-N.Y., who chairs the caucus, in an interview Tuesday.

The group's proposals include guaranteeing cost-sharing reduction payments to insurers, adding funding to help insurers cover expensive patients, partially repealing Obamacare's requirement for businesses to offer health benefits, and scrapping the law's tax on medical devices.

They also offered options to pay for the package, such as encouraging the use of generic drugs in Medicare. The cost could be a significant stumbling block to passage since it's likely the proposal would "significantly increase the deficit," according to Matthew Fiedler, a fellow at the Brookings Instutition.

In the Senate, Republican and Democratic leaders on the health committee announced in a joint statement that they would hold hearings early next month on how to calm Obamacare's tumultuous insurance markets.

"In my opinion, any solution that Congress passes for a 2018 stabilization package would need to be small, bipartisan and balanced," said Sen. Lamar Alexander, R-Tenn., the committee's chairman, in a statement.


deal with it ... ACA is the law.

Republicans chair the committee.

Bipartisan?
LOL

Not a single republican vote for the dems destroying american health care
your boy barry owns this mess

Fix it

 

[francoHFW]

So you're saying 81% just won't happen. What type of price hike will happen 50%, 70%?

He will never answer that because the truth is so embarrassing.

Already did. Lower cost rise than before ACA.

Yes, but you pulled that number out of your rear.

Actually, if you would pull your head out of fat ass & were informed, you would know that the ACA lowered the rate of increase for premiums.

The claim by Obama was that it will lower premiums. The exact quote was . . no I'll let you watch then I'll watch you pucker up.

Already has...

 

[francoHFW]

nope ..

WASHINGTON — Bipartisanship is suddenly the talk of Capitol Hill, where Republicans and Democrats are now expressing a tentative desire to join hands after a brutal debate over Obamacare repeal.

In the House, the "Problem Solvers" caucus, which consists of 43 members from both parties, put out a list of broad principles for a series of Obamacare tweaks.

"My hope is we can be responsible legislators and recognize we can take on those cost issues, we can take on the issue of health care, but let's do it together," said Rep. Tom Reed, R-N.Y., who chairs the caucus, in an interview Tuesday.

The group's proposals include guaranteeing cost-sharing reduction payments to insurers, adding funding to help insurers cover expensive patients, partially repealing Obamacare's requirement for businesses to offer health benefits, and scrapping the law's tax on medical devices.

They also offered options to pay for the package, such as encouraging the use of generic drugs in Medicare. The cost could be a significant stumbling block to passage since it's likely the proposal would "significantly increase the deficit," according to Matthew Fiedler, a fellow at the Brookings Instutition.

In the Senate, Republican and Democratic leaders on the health committee announced in a joint statement that they would hold hearings early next month on how to calm Obamacare's tumultuous insurance markets.

"In my opinion, any solution that Congress passes for a 2018 stabilization package would need to be small, bipartisan and balanced," said Sen. Lamar Alexander, R-Tenn., the committee's chairman, in a statement.


deal with it ... ACA is the law.

Republicans chair the committee.

Bipartisan?
LOL

Not a single republican vote for the dems destroying american health care
your boy barry owns this mess

Fix it

And stop sabotaging it...

 

[francoHFW]

They wouldn't be hiking them by 81%, moron.

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This is an insurer request, dupe, and won't happen. By now you should know this is GOP bs...

So you're saying 81% just won't happen. What type of price hike will happen 50%, 70%?

He will never answer that because the truth is so embarrassing.

Already did. Lower cost rise than before ACA.

None of the costs associated with my healthcare plan increased until BarryCare went into effect.

TY for helping the poor and pre-existing, and now it's guaranteed. And IS a beginning of a solution for costs, the actual problem.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Yup.

81%​

Health Insurers in Idaho Request Premium Rate Hikes As High As 81%

Health care insurers in Idaho have requested premium rate hikes as high as 81 percent for next year, according to the state's Department of Insurance.

The five insurers serving the individual market in Idaho are Blue Cross of Idaho Health Service, Mountain Health Co-Op, PacificSource Health Plans, Regence BlueShield of Idaho, and SelectHealth.

For all plans, insurers requested rates ranging from a low of 25 percent to a high of 51 percent for a combined average statewide rate increase of 38 percent. For Obamacare's popular Silver plan, the average rate increase among all insurers was even higher at 50 percent, with one insurer requesting a high of 81 percent.

"I am deeply disappointed and frustrated to share these rates," said Dean Cameron, who directs the department. "I understand how difficult it will be for Idahoans to afford reasonable coverage, especially those without a subsidy."

Some victims of The "Affordable Care" Act (read "Obamacare) are now paying more for health insurance than for their house mortgage/tax escrow montly. For some having deciding whether to have "affordable health care" or a place to live.

Congratulations liberals (off both parties)! You're quickly achieving the goal of turning Americans into welfare drones - 'cause then they get Obamacaid (Medicaid) ffor free. Well, free to THEM but straight out of YOUR pocket.

Look, you support a system that costs TWICE as much as the UK system and most other healthcare systems, but then you get all sanctimonious about it costing a little more because of Obamacare. Come of. What do you want? Affordable healthcare, or a system which benefits the rich? You can't have it both ways.

 

[EverCurious]

How about, I don't want health insurance because it's a scam. Who the hell are you to /force/ me to buy insurance that I do not want, and not only that, but to force me to pay for it for others as well.

44% of the "uninsured" idiots that jumped on ACA could have been on Medicare even /before/ ACA but the dumbasses didn't apply. The average administration cost to doctors/hospitals has nearly tripled /because/ of ACA - costs passed onto consumers. Insurance companies too are forced to offer coverage plans that are quite simply not financially sustainable - also passed onto consumers.

And all of that shit is on top of the reality that insurance is a rip-off. Fuck your fascist socialism you lazy bastards. You want to waste money on health insurance, then go earn it yourself.

Medicare or Medicaid. Dumbass.

And when your uninsured ass drops over with a heat attack & they take you to the ER, who the fuck is stuck paying you 450K bill?

Fuck your ignorance you stupid asshole. ilty You know nothing about the ACA.

No once forced insurance companies to offer any particular plan.

You are the moocher. You are the one who fails to accept your responsibility. Ypu want me top pay your medical care whrn you ingure yourself or have a medical emergency.

I love how you project your broke ass onto me; presuming that I cannot afford an emergency hospital bill. Unlike you pathetic, greedy, socialist twats, some of us actually applied ourselves and made money during our lives, thus have no need for handouts regardless of emergencies. In fact, it's people like me that pay your freeloading asses national taxes (and typically your state/municipality taxes as well.)

It disgusts me that so many in this nation have become such a worthless drag on the greatness of American society. I remember when folks in this nation strove to be rich, when they embraced the power of the capitalist market - scrambling hand over fist to reach the top... Now the idiots lay around like entitled pets in basements and slums, pretending that they are worthy role models, pretending that they know better, pretending that they care about more than their own selfish need for stuff they don't want to pay for... Entitled mentality, communist mentality... It's disgusting to me.

 

[RealDave]

So you're saying 81% just won't happen. What type of price hike will happen 50%, 70%?

He will never answer that because the truth is so embarrassing.

Already did. Lower cost rise than before ACA.

Yes, but you pulled that number out of your rear.

Actually, if you would pull your head out of fat ass & were informed, you would know that the ACA lowered the rate of increase for premiums.

The claim by Obama was that it will lower premiums. The exact quote was . . no I'll let you watch then I'll watch you pucker up.

This is what I said "Already did. Lower cost rise than before ACA."

Now what?

My premiums were lower on the exchanges.

 

[RealDave]

How about, I don't want health insurance because it's a scam. Who the hell are you to /force/ me to buy insurance that I do not want, and not only that, but to force me to pay for it for others as well.

44% of the "uninsured" idiots that jumped on ACA could have been on Medicare even /before/ ACA but the dumbasses didn't apply. The average administration cost to doctors/hospitals has nearly tripled /because/ of ACA - costs passed onto consumers. Insurance companies too are forced to offer coverage plans that are quite simply not financially sustainable - also passed onto consumers.

And all of that shit is on top of the reality that insurance is a rip-off. Fuck your fascist socialism you lazy bastards. You want to waste money on health insurance, then go earn it yourself.

Medicare or Medicaid. Dumbass.

And when your uninsured ass drops over with a heat attack & they take you to the ER, who the fuck is stuck paying you 450K bill?

Fuck your ignorance you stupid asshole. ilty You know nothing about the ACA.

No once forced insurance companies to offer any particular plan.

You are the moocher. You are the one who fails to accept your responsibility. Ypu want me top pay your medical care whrn you ingure yourself or have a medical emergency.

I love how you project your broke ass onto me; presuming that I cannot afford an emergency hospital bill. Unlike you pathetic, greedy, socialist twats, some of us actually applied ourselves and made money during our lives, thus have no need for handouts regardless of emergencies. In fact, it's people like me that pay your freeloading asses national taxes (and typically your state/municipality taxes as well.)

It disgusts me that so many in this nation have become such a worthless drag on the greatness of American society. I remember when folks in this nation strove to be rich, when they embraced the power of the capitalist market - scrambling hand over fist to reach the top... Now the idiots lay around like entitled pets in basements and slums, pretending that they are worthy role models, pretending that they know better, pretending that they care about more than their own selfish need for stuff they don't want to pay for... Entitled mentality, communist mentality... It's disgusting to me.

Well, Mr "I am sofa king "wealthy, if you could truly afford to self insure, you could have received a ma date waiver.

This is the internet & you can make up anything you wanted. The idea you are bitching about premiums while claiming to be wealthy is a joke.

 

[Conservative65]

He will never answer that because the truth is so embarrassing.

Already did. Lower cost rise than before ACA.

Yes, but you pulled that number out of your rear.

Actually, if you would pull your head out of fat ass & were informed, you would know that the ACA lowered the rate of increase for premiums.

The claim by Obama was that it will lower premiums. The exact quote was . . no I'll let you watch then I'll watch you pucker up.

This is what I said "Already did. Lower cost rise than before ACA."

Now what?

My premiums were lower on the exchanges.

When you get a subsidy, things may be lower on you but higher on everyone else. That's the problem. These idiots that now have it due to someone else offsetting the costs still are paying for it.

Obama's claim wasn't that it would lower the cost rise. He specifically said lower by $2500 for families. Did all families get that? No.

 

[Nia88]

Whine all you want, but republicans run all three branches of government. They promised to repeal ACA and they failed to do it. WINNING!

Also Trump is sabotaging ACA. He could fix the issues but he doesn't want to because he's a brat who wants his way only.

This could be easily solved if Trump cared about Americans. Go single payer.

 

[Conservative65]

How about, I don't want health insurance because it's a scam. Who the hell are you to /force/ me to buy insurance that I do not want, and not only that, but to force me to pay for it for others as well.

44% of the "uninsured" idiots that jumped on ACA could have been on Medicare even /before/ ACA but the dumbasses didn't apply. The average administration cost to doctors/hospitals has nearly tripled /because/ of ACA - costs passed onto consumers. Insurance companies too are forced to offer coverage plans that are quite simply not financially sustainable - also passed onto consumers.

And all of that shit is on top of the reality that insurance is a rip-off. Fuck your fascist socialism you lazy bastards. You want to waste money on health insurance, then go earn it yourself.

Medicare or Medicaid. Dumbass.

And when your uninsured ass drops over with a heat attack & they take you to the ER, who the fuck is stuck paying you 450K bill?

Fuck your ignorance you stupid asshole. ilty You know nothing about the ACA.

No once forced insurance companies to offer any particular plan.

You are the moocher. You are the one who fails to accept your responsibility. Ypu want me top pay your medical care whrn you ingure yourself or have a medical emergency.

I love how you project your broke ass onto me; presuming that I cannot afford an emergency hospital bill. Unlike you pathetic, greedy, socialist twats, some of us actually applied ourselves and made money during our lives, thus have no need for handouts regardless of emergencies. In fact, it's people like me that pay your freeloading asses national taxes (and typically your state/municipality taxes as well.)

It disgusts me that so many in this nation have become such a worthless drag on the greatness of American society. I remember when folks in this nation strove to be rich, when they embraced the power of the capitalist market - scrambling hand over fist to reach the top... Now the idiots lay around like entitled pets in basements and slums, pretending that they are worthy role models, pretending that they know better, pretending that they care about more than their own selfish need for stuff they don't want to pay for... Entitled mentality, communist mentality... It's disgusting to me.

Well, Mr "I am sofa king "wealthy, if you could truly afford to self insure, you could have received a ma date waiver.

This is the internet & you can make up anything you wanted. The idea you are bitching about premiums while claiming to be wealthy is a joke.

It's not about the premiums you dumb shit. It's about providing for me and my family then bleeding hearts like you thinking it's my place to provide for someone else's family by offsetting the costs because they're unwilling to do for themselves.