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Oh boy here comes another one..Liars? Not generally. Brainwashed? Some are absolutely brainwashed. Those people don't even entertain the idea our government was complicit or actively in a role. When you don't even allow the possibility for something that has a proven track record yes you are brainwashed
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I compared many other events where the Government was part of it..
"What a real conspiracy looks like. Real conspiracies have very few players and even then, they are usually exposed. Enron, Watergate, Iran/Contra and the rest have few people involved and someone always comes out to blow the whistle."
Conspiracy theorists say this is proof that the administration needed to create a "Pearl Harbor". But if they did blow up the towers, why would they go to such great lengths to point to Bin Laden? Why not fix evidence to point to Saddam? Conspiracy theorists say they needed terrorism to perpetuate an endless war.
To take away our freedoms to fight this war. But Bin Laden wasn't the only way to do it. "They" could have planted evidence suggesting Bin Laden was working for Saddam. Why not? Remember, if they are setting up Bin Laden then why not set up Saddam at the same time? He wasn't "a few Arabs in the desert." He had an army and millions from oil profits. Why allow people to say "Saddam wasn't the one to attack us"? There would have been far fewer players if they placed a nuclear device in the towers basements and took out lower Manhattan.
The government could have blamed Saddam's fictitious WMD for the device and Bin Laden for the delivery. We would have reason to invade Iraq the next day. Conspiracy theorists would have us believe they chose a plan which involves thousands over smaller, more controllable plans.
Where in the hell have you been? Do I really need to show how many time the bush admin tried to tie saddam to 9E? Your list of q+a is bullshit. You can't use questions specifically designed to get the answer you want then use that as evidence you supported your claim. Not too many things are more annoying than redneck quality esoteric ramblings.
you remember it... fuck off..you want to post this statement prove it
they question is.....is the analysis true the door was never opened.....or is the analysis faked to support the conspiracy theory....
the 911 truthers have just as much to gain from faking data as they claim the us government had from faking an attack....
so who performed the analysis test with the finding above?
Where is the plane , the crew and the passengers? If the plane was never hijacked and never crashed into the Pentagon why did it descend on radar and disappear? Where did the black box come from? Where did the DNA evidence come from? How did a plane that size fly below radar tracking through a city without being seen and reported? Where did it eventually land? Who actually made the phone call to the Cabinet member claiming to be his wife? Who killed the passengers and secretly seeded their DNA in the Pentagon? Who flew the plane to this secret undisclosed location below radar tracking so that everyone could be escorted off and murdered?
If the door was never opened then in order to get the black box means the original pilots flew the aircraft below radar detection to some secret location to be processed for DNA to be planted at the Pentagon. They were either murdered there after WILLINGLY doing as told or they are secretly still alive hiding some where. Further since the black box data is not claimed to show no crash then in reality THEY must have crashed the plane somewhere so the black boxes could be recovered and secretly transported to the pentagon site.
Getting the idea yet?
Oh boy here comes another one..
I compared many other events where the Government was part of it..
"What a real conspiracy looks like. Real conspiracies have very few players and even then, they are usually exposed. Enron, Watergate, Iran/Contra and the rest have few people involved and someone always comes out to blow the whistle."
Where in the hell have you been? Do I really need to show how many time the bush admin tried to tie saddam to 9E? Your list of q+a is bullshit. You can't use questions specifically designed to get the answer you want then use that as evidence you supported your claim. Not too many things are more annoying than redneck quality esoteric ramblings.
What more lies and Conspiracy's?
I wasn't the one who wrote that just to let you know, that's why i put it in a quote.
We are talking about 9/11. Which honestly you can't Prove NOTHING about the 9/11 Attacks.
Hell, your buddy Eots there likes to keep posting about people saying we need an investigation.. And Yet he has to come at me with facts..
How many times do i have to repeat myself?
That's exactly right, Space aliens blasted the hole in the building and those evil midgets working with the bush administration cleaned up all traces of the space missle that actually blew the hole.
Be careful EOTS, your getting too close and I, for one, am concerned about your safety.
great comeback!.....but what about trying to answer the question really?
getting a little off topic with the saddam stuff, i think.
the "impossible" has once again been proved possible.....
the "proof" that the door never was opened, like most of the other twoofer evidence, is just a bunch of people talking out of their ass that have no idea what they are talking about. the flight data recorder wasnt monitoring the door. end of story.
the bodies recovered were pentagon employees the rest were apparently identified through DNA evidence...which could easily be manipulated ..but the fact is that has nothing to do with the evidence in the flight data recorder..it is what it is..have an independent investigation of 9/11 and release all evidence and lets find the answers
I thought you had claimed that you had a study of the recorders and that they proved the plane did not hit the Pentagon? Now you know you cannot have it both ways either you have this proof or you don't. Now once again go tell those families that their loved ones did not die at the pentagon.
why do you fuck off with you disingenuous bullshit instead..the families were the driving force behind the 9/11 investigation and are the driving force behind demanding a re-investigation..why don't you tell them they are toofer morons you asshole...you and glen beck
[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hf33g9ep4YU[/ame]
I thought you had claimed that you had a study of the recorders and that they proved the plane did not hit the Pentagon? Now you know you cannot have it both ways either you have this proof or you don't. Now once again go tell those families that their loved ones did not die at the pentagon.
why do you fuck off with you disingenuous bullshit instead..the families were the driving force behind the 9/11 investigation and are the driving force behind demanding a re-investigation..why don't you tell them they are toofer morons you asshole...you and glen beck
[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hf33g9ep4YU[/ame]
Because the Families are not saying that the plane did not hit the pentagon, you are. The families have laid their loved ones remains to rest, You want to claim that they didn't die at the pentagon. So go ahead and tell those families that. And still waiting to see this report that proves the door was never opened.......Official report that is.
why do you fuck off with you disingenuous bullshit instead..the families were the driving force behind the 9/11 investigation and are the driving force behind demanding a re-investigation..why don't you tell them they are toofer morons you asshole...you and glen beck
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hf33g9ep4YU
Because the Families are not saying that the plane did not hit the pentagon, you are. The families have laid their loved ones remains to rest, You want to claim that they didn't die at the pentagon. So go ahead and tell those families that. And still waiting to see this report that proves the door was never opened.......Official report that is.
Another stellar example of how ignorant some OCTAs are. Victims families have been the driving force of the truth movement so your little attempt at emotional string pulling only shows how you don't know what the hell you are talking about. Many families and first responders have already pointed out they want a new investigation and they do not accept the OCT as a starting point. They want a new investigation with zero assumptions:
Q: Will the new Commission have a bias or pre-determined conclusion about the events of September 11?
The investigation will commence from a starting point of zero assumption or bias about the events of September 11. The investigation will be fact-driven and will use only the most rigorous legal standards for establishing the truth about those tragic events.
NYC Coalition For Accountability Now
you would also think that the Pentagon has it's security taps so that when an event takes place that event can be investigated and then the facts of that case aftyer a certain amount of time can be released to the public. Also all footage from outside sources that took place in the flight path have been confiscated. Wouldn't it just be easier to prove it was a plane just by showing the footage to the public and clearing up their story....otherwise i guess there must be something to hide?
The Pentagon has lots to hide.
But why do think that what they are trying to hide is a missile?
The Pentagon is a national security building. Do you think the only thing the military would try to hide is whether or not a missile hit the Pentagon?
If they believed that national security would be compromised by showing what was inside the Pentagon, as no doubt is the case, releasing tapes to satisfy what they would consider to be a bunch of nutter truthers who would NEVER believe them anyways is pretty low on their list of priorities.
Because the Families are not saying that the plane did not hit the pentagon, you are. The families have laid their loved ones remains to rest, You want to claim that they didn't die at the pentagon. So go ahead and tell those families that. And still waiting to see this report that proves the door was never opened.......Official report that is.
Another stellar example of how ignorant some OCTAs are. Victims families have been the driving force of the truth movement so your little attempt at emotional string pulling only shows how you don't know what the hell you are talking about. Many families and first responders have already pointed out they want a new investigation and they do not accept the OCT as a starting point. They want a new investigation with zero assumptions:
Q: Will the new Commission have a bias or pre-determined conclusion about the events of September 11?
The investigation will commence from a starting point of zero assumption or bias about the events of September 11. The investigation will be fact-driven and will use only the most rigorous legal standards for establishing the truth about those tragic events.
NYC Coalition For Accountability Now
Ah it's curvelight, I took you off ignore just yesterday. Now why don't you tell us, without any conclusions, Did flight 77 hit the Pentagon or is there truly any proof that it did not. Also can you show me one family member who lost a loved one on that flight who believes that the plan did not hit the Pentagon? Or of course will you dodge this question again?
you would also think that the Pentagon has it's security taps so that when an event takes place that event can be investigated and then the facts of that case aftyer a certain amount of time can be released to the public. Also all footage from outside sources that took place in the flight path have been confiscated. Wouldn't it just be easier to prove it was a plane just by showing the footage to the public and clearing up their story....otherwise i guess there must be something to hide?
The Pentagon has lots to hide.
But why do think that what they are trying to hide is a missile?
The Pentagon is a national security building. Do you think the only thing the military would try to hide is whether or not a missile hit the Pentagon?
If they believed that national security would be compromised by showing what was inside the Pentagon, as no doubt is the case, releasing tapes to satisfy what they would consider to be a bunch of nutter truthers who would NEVER believe them anyways is pretty low on their list of priorities.
the Pentagon has lots to hide huh??? - no ones asking for a look inside just the outside footage of the crash.
I never said I thought a missile hit the Pentagon so don't put words in my mouth thank you very much.
and lastly nice try to deflect what the American public has a right to know by calling the American public nutters for just wanting the truth ...apparently you don't feel their loss and sacrifice during and after this tragedy entitles them to the truth
9/11 Pentagon Aircraft Hijack Impossible
PilotsFor911Truth
November 29, 2009
Newly decoded data provided by an independent researcher and computer programmer from Australia exposes alarming evidence that the reported hijacking aboard American Airlines Flight 77 was impossible to have existed. A data parameter labeled FLT DECK DOOR, cross checks with previously decoded data obtained by Pilots For 9/11 Truth from the National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB) through the Freedom Of Information Act.
the flight data recorder was manufactured in 1997. it had no port for the door sensor and therefore ALWAYS gave a closed signal. what the "independent researcher" fails to say is that not only did the sensor not detect an open door (since there was no sensor connected) during the entire flight of flight 77 but it also didnt detect an open door in the entire 42 hours prior to the flight.
