A 19 year old black man is distorting the polls for Trump

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http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/13/u...istorting-national-polling-averages.html?_r=1

There is a 19-year-old black man in Illinois who has no idea of the role he is playing in this election.

He is sure he is going to vote for Donald J. Trump.

And he has been held up as proof by conservatives — including outlets like Breitbart News and The New York Post — that Mr. Trump is excelling among black voters. He has even played a modest role in shifting entire polling aggregates, like the Real Clear Politics average, toward Mr. Trump.

How? He’s a panelist on the U.S.C. Dornsife/Los Angeles Times Daybreak poll, which has emerged as the biggest polling outlier of the presidential campaign. Despite falling behind by double digits in some national surveys, Mr. Trump has generally led in the U.S.C./LAT poll. He held the lead for a full month until Wednesday, when Hillary Clinton took a nominal lead.

Our Trump-supporting friend in Illinois is a surprisingly big part of the reason. In some polls, he’s weighted as much as 30 times more than the average respondent, and as much as 300 times more than the least-weighted respondent.




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Alone, he has been enough to put Mr. Trump in double digits of support among black voters. He can improve Mr. Trump’s margin by 1 point in the survey, even though he is one of around 3,000 panelists.

He is also the reason Mrs. Clinton took the lead in the U.S.C./LAT poll for the first time in a month on Wednesday. The poll includes only the last seven days of respondents, and he hasn’t taken the poll since Oct. 4. Mrs. Clinton surged once he was out of the sample for the first time
 
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/13/u...istorting-national-polling-averages.html?_r=1

There is a 19-year-old black man in Illinois who has no idea of the role he is playing in this election.

He is sure he is going to vote for Donald J. Trump.

And he has been held up as proof by conservatives — including outlets like Breitbart News and The New York Post — that Mr. Trump is excelling among black voters. He has even played a modest role in shifting entire polling aggregates, like the Real Clear Politics average, toward Mr. Trump.

How? He’s a panelist on the U.S.C. Dornsife/Los Angeles Times Daybreak poll, which has emerged as the biggest polling outlier of the presidential campaign. Despite falling behind by double digits in some national surveys, Mr. Trump has generally led in the U.S.C./LAT poll. He held the lead for a full month until Wednesday, when Hillary Clinton took a nominal lead.

Our Trump-supporting friend in Illinois is a surprisingly big part of the reason. In some polls, he’s weighted as much as 30 times more than the average respondent, and as much as 300 times more than the least-weighted respondent.




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Like ice skating, you throw out the high and the low to get the real score, the one in which Clinton has a solid and increasing lead.
 
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/13/u...istorting-national-polling-averages.html?_r=1

There is a 19-year-old black man in Illinois who has no idea of the role he is playing in this election.

He is sure he is going to vote for Donald J. Trump.

And he has been held up as proof by conservatives — including outlets like Breitbart News and The New York Post — that Mr. Trump is excelling among black voters. He has even played a modest role in shifting entire polling aggregates, like the Real Clear Politics average, toward Mr. Trump.

How? He’s a panelist on the U.S.C. Dornsife/Los Angeles Times Daybreak poll, which has emerged as the biggest polling outlier of the presidential campaign. Despite falling behind by double digits in some national surveys, Mr. Trump has generally led in the U.S.C./LAT poll. He held the lead for a full month until Wednesday, when Hillary Clinton took a nominal lead.

Our Trump-supporting friend in Illinois is a surprisingly big part of the reason. In some polls, he’s weighted as much as 30 times more than the average respondent, and as much as 300 times more than the least-weighted respondent.




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Anyone that thinks a significant portion of Black people will vote for Drumpf needs their heads examined. Drumpf is a blatant racist and you can smell him around the corner.
 
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/13/u...istorting-national-polling-averages.html?_r=1

There is a 19-year-old black man in Illinois who has no idea of the role he is playing in this election.

He is sure he is going to vote for Donald J. Trump.

And he has been held up as proof by conservatives — including outlets like Breitbart News and The New York Post — that Mr. Trump is excelling among black voters. He has even played a modest role in shifting entire polling aggregates, like the Real Clear Politics average, toward Mr. Trump.

How? He’s a panelist on the U.S.C. Dornsife/Los Angeles Times Daybreak poll, which has emerged as the biggest polling outlier of the presidential campaign. Despite falling behind by double digits in some national surveys, Mr. Trump has generally led in the U.S.C./LAT poll. He held the lead for a full month until Wednesday, when Hillary Clinton took a nominal lead.

Our Trump-supporting friend in Illinois is a surprisingly big part of the reason. In some polls, he’s weighted as much as 30 times more than the average respondent, and as much as 300 times more than the least-weighted respondent.




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Anyone that thinks a significant portion of Black people will vote for Drumpf needs their heads examined. Drumpf is a blatant racist and you can smell him around the corner.
Trump might just set a new low.
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http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/13/u...istorting-national-polling-averages.html?_r=1

There is a 19-year-old black man in Illinois who has no idea of the role he is playing in this election.

He is sure he is going to vote for Donald J. Trump.

And he has been held up as proof by conservatives — including outlets like Breitbart News and The New York Post — that Mr. Trump is excelling among black voters. He has even played a modest role in shifting entire polling aggregates, like the Real Clear Politics average, toward Mr. Trump.

How? He’s a panelist on the U.S.C. Dornsife/Los Angeles Times Daybreak poll, which has emerged as the biggest polling outlier of the presidential campaign. Despite falling behind by double digits in some national surveys, Mr. Trump has generally led in the U.S.C./LAT poll. He held the lead for a full month until Wednesday, when Hillary Clinton took a nominal lead.

Our Trump-supporting friend in Illinois is a surprisingly big part of the reason. In some polls, he’s weighted as much as 30 times more than the average respondent, and as much as 300 times more than the least-weighted respondent.




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Anyone that thinks a significant portion of Black people will vote for Drumpf needs their heads examined. Drumpf is a blatant racist and you can smell him around the corner.

I have been wondering about that LA Times/USC poll for weeks

It was the only one to claim that Black support of Trump was surging
It was the only one to claim Trump was leading in the polls

Now we know why
 
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/13/u...istorting-national-polling-averages.html?_r=1

There is a 19-year-old black man in Illinois who has no idea of the role he is playing in this election.

He is sure he is going to vote for Donald J. Trump.

And he has been held up as proof by conservatives — including outlets like Breitbart News and The New York Post — that Mr. Trump is excelling among black voters. He has even played a modest role in shifting entire polling aggregates, like the Real Clear Politics average, toward Mr. Trump.

How? He’s a panelist on the U.S.C. Dornsife/Los Angeles Times Daybreak poll, which has emerged as the biggest polling outlier of the presidential campaign. Despite falling behind by double digits in some national surveys, Mr. Trump has generally led in the U.S.C./LAT poll. He held the lead for a full month until Wednesday, when Hillary Clinton took a nominal lead.

Our Trump-supporting friend in Illinois is a surprisingly big part of the reason. In some polls, he’s weighted as much as 30 times more than the average respondent, and as much as 300 times more than the least-weighted respondent.




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Anyone that thinks a significant portion of Black people will vote for Drumpf needs their heads examined. Drumpf is a blatant racist and you can smell him around the corner.

I have been wondering about that LA Times/USC poll for weeks

It was the only one to claim that Black support of Trump was surging
It was the only one to claim Trump was leading in the polls

Now we know why

yeah Drumpf has a big surprise coming when the results are in from the Black and Hispanic vote. I know for sure those 2 groups are probably going give him historic lows in support.
 
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/13/u...istorting-national-polling-averages.html?_r=1

There is a 19-year-old black man in Illinois who has no idea of the role he is playing in this election.

He is sure he is going to vote for Donald J. Trump.

And he has been held up as proof by conservatives — including outlets like Breitbart News and The New York Post — that Mr. Trump is excelling among black voters. He has even played a modest role in shifting entire polling aggregates, like the Real Clear Politics average, toward Mr. Trump.

How? He’s a panelist on the U.S.C. Dornsife/Los Angeles Times Daybreak poll, which has emerged as the biggest polling outlier of the presidential campaign. Despite falling behind by double digits in some national surveys, Mr. Trump has generally led in the U.S.C./LAT poll. He held the lead for a full month until Wednesday, when Hillary Clinton took a nominal lead.

Our Trump-supporting friend in Illinois is a surprisingly big part of the reason. In some polls, he’s weighted as much as 30 times more than the average respondent, and as much as 300 times more than the least-weighted respondent.




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Anyone that thinks a significant portion of Black people will vote for Drumpf needs their heads examined. Drumpf is a blatant racist and you can smell him around the corner.

I have been wondering about that LA Times/USC poll for weeks
Same here. It wasn't making sense with the real world.
 
Alone, he has been enough to put Mr. Trump in double digits of support among black voters. He can improve Mr. Trump’s margin by 1 point in the survey, even though he is one of around 3,000 panelists.

He is also the reason Mrs. Clinton took the lead in the U.S.C./LAT poll for the first time in a month on Wednesday. The poll includes only the last seven days of respondents, and he hasn’t taken the poll since Oct. 4. Mrs. Clinton surged once he was out of the sample for the first time

You seem to be forgetting that poll has called the last two presidential races closer than any other.
 
Alone, he has been enough to put Mr. Trump in double digits of support among black voters. He can improve Mr. Trump’s margin by 1 point in the survey, even though he is one of around 3,000 panelists.

He is also the reason Mrs. Clinton took the lead in the U.S.C./LAT poll for the first time in a month on Wednesday. The poll includes only the last seven days of respondents, and he hasn’t taken the poll since Oct. 4. Mrs. Clinton surged once he was out of the sample for the first time

You seem to be forgetting that poll has called the last two presidential races closer than any other.

Interesting

Do you have a link on that?
 
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/13/u...istorting-national-polling-averages.html?_r=1

There is a 19-year-old black man in Illinois who has no idea of the role he is playing in this election.

He is sure he is going to vote for Donald J. Trump.

And he has been held up as proof by conservatives — including outlets like Breitbart News and The New York Post — that Mr. Trump is excelling among black voters. He has even played a modest role in shifting entire polling aggregates, like the Real Clear Politics average, toward Mr. Trump.

How? He’s a panelist on the U.S.C. Dornsife/Los Angeles Times Daybreak poll, which has emerged as the biggest polling outlier of the presidential campaign. Despite falling behind by double digits in some national surveys, Mr. Trump has generally led in the U.S.C./LAT poll. He held the lead for a full month until Wednesday, when Hillary Clinton took a nominal lead.

Our Trump-supporting friend in Illinois is a surprisingly big part of the reason. In some polls, he’s weighted as much as 30 times more than the average respondent, and as much as 300 times more than the least-weighted respondent.




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Anyone that thinks a significant portion of Black people will vote for Drumpf needs their heads examined. Drumpf is a blatant racist and you can smell him around the corner.

I have been wondering about that LA Times/USC poll for weeks

It was the only one to claim that Black support of Trump was surging
It was the only one to claim Trump was leading in the polls

Now we know why

yeah Drumpf has a big surprise coming when the results are in from the Black and Hispanic vote. I know for sure those 2 groups are probably going give him historic lows in support.

Just keep a mic in his face and make sure he has unfettered access to twitter, he'll do the rest.
 
Alone, he has been enough to put Mr. Trump in double digits of support among black voters. He can improve Mr. Trump’s margin by 1 point in the survey, even though he is one of around 3,000 panelists.

He is also the reason Mrs. Clinton took the lead in the U.S.C./LAT poll for the first time in a month on Wednesday. The poll includes only the last seven days of respondents, and he hasn’t taken the poll since Oct. 4. Mrs. Clinton surged once he was out of the sample for the first time

You seem to be forgetting that poll has called the last two presidential races closer than any other.
And Clinton is now ahead so is the poll now wrong?
 
During 2008 and 2012 we had the Rassmussen Poll which was a continual outlier for the Republican candidate. They were like the old figure skating judges from the USSR that continually differed from the other judges

8.9, 9.1, 8.7, 9.2 and from the Soviet judge 6.1

That is what the USC/LA Times poll represents
 
Alone, he has been enough to put Mr. Trump in double digits of support among black voters. He can improve Mr. Trump’s margin by 1 point in the survey, even though he is one of around 3,000 panelists.

He is also the reason Mrs. Clinton took the lead in the U.S.C./LAT poll for the first time in a month on Wednesday. The poll includes only the last seven days of respondents, and he hasn’t taken the poll since Oct. 4. Mrs. Clinton surged once he was out of the sample for the first time

You seem to be forgetting that poll has called the last two presidential races closer than any other.

Interesting

Do you have a link on that?

Nope saw a interview with a guy from the LA Times, it think it was on O'Riley. O'Riley asked them about their poll not jibing with the others and why they used it, that was his explanation, said using a fixed sample was the best way to judge if minds were actually changing, versus random samples. I'm sure you can find the interview with a bit of effort.
 
Alone, he has been enough to put Mr. Trump in double digits of support among black voters. He can improve Mr. Trump’s margin by 1 point in the survey, even though he is one of around 3,000 panelists.

He is also the reason Mrs. Clinton took the lead in the U.S.C./LAT poll for the first time in a month on Wednesday. The poll includes only the last seven days of respondents, and he hasn’t taken the poll since Oct. 4. Mrs. Clinton surged once he was out of the sample for the first time

You seem to be forgetting that poll has called the last two presidential races closer than any other.
And Clinton is now ahead so is the poll now wrong?

And I said that where? The OP is the one bitching about their methods, not me.
 
Alone, he has been enough to put Mr. Trump in double digits of support among black voters. He can improve Mr. Trump’s margin by 1 point in the survey, even though he is one of around 3,000 panelists.

He is also the reason Mrs. Clinton took the lead in the U.S.C./LAT poll for the first time in a month on Wednesday. The poll includes only the last seven days of respondents, and he hasn’t taken the poll since Oct. 4. Mrs. Clinton surged once he was out of the sample for the first time

You seem to be forgetting that poll has called the last two presidential races closer than any other.
And Clinton is now ahead so is the poll now wrong?

And I said that where? The OP is the one bitching about their methods, not me.
They have been the one poll that didn't make sense for months. Now even in that one has Clinton is winning. That's all.
 
Alone, he has been enough to put Mr. Trump in double digits of support among black voters. He can improve Mr. Trump’s margin by 1 point in the survey, even though he is one of around 3,000 panelists.

He is also the reason Mrs. Clinton took the lead in the U.S.C./LAT poll for the first time in a month on Wednesday. The poll includes only the last seven days of respondents, and he hasn’t taken the poll since Oct. 4. Mrs. Clinton surged once he was out of the sample for the first time

You seem to be forgetting that poll has called the last two presidential races closer than any other.
And Clinton is now ahead so is the poll now wrong?

And I said that where? The OP is the one bitching about their methods, not me.
They have been the one poll that didn't make sense for months. Now even in that one has Clinton is winning. That's all.

Fine, but don't try to attribute things to me that I didn't say.
 
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/13/u...istorting-national-polling-averages.html?_r=1

There is a 19-year-old black man in Illinois who has no idea of the role he is playing in this election.

He is sure he is going to vote for Donald J. Trump.

And he has been held up as proof by conservatives — including outlets like Breitbart News and The New York Post — that Mr. Trump is excelling among black voters. He has even played a modest role in shifting entire polling aggregates, like the Real Clear Politics average, toward Mr. Trump.

How? He’s a panelist on the U.S.C. Dornsife/Los Angeles Times Daybreak poll, which has emerged as the biggest polling outlier of the presidential campaign. Despite falling behind by double digits in some national surveys, Mr. Trump has generally led in the U.S.C./LAT poll. He held the lead for a full month until Wednesday, when Hillary Clinton took a nominal lead.

Our Trump-supporting friend in Illinois is a surprisingly big part of the reason. In some polls, he’s weighted as much as 30 times more than the average respondent, and as much as 300 times more than the least-weighted respondent.




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Anyone that thinks a significant portion of Black people will vote for Drumpf needs their heads examined. Drumpf is a blatant racist and you can smell him around the corner.

I have been wondering about that LA Times/USC poll for weeks

It was the only one to claim that Black support of Trump was surging
It was the only one to claim Trump was leading in the polls

Now we know why


Starting to sound like coast to coast AM with all this conspiracy shit.
 
U.S.C. Dornsife/Los Angeles Times Daybreak poll is the exception that proves the rule.

Very good, Crixus: U.S.C. Dornsife/Los Angeles Times Daybreak poll is conspiracy polled large.
 

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