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Wisconsin’s GOP is trying to nix an existing law that requires employers in the manufacturing and retail sectors to give employees at least 24 hours off during each consecutive seven-day period. Currently, for an employee to skip his or her weekly day off, an employer has to get approval from the state’s Department of Workforce Development. The Wisconsin Manufacturers and Commerce association—a staunch advocate of the bill—suggests that the step is onerous and unnecessary, since the department has approved 733 such requests over the past five years, a number they imply means that the department is rubber-stamping the requests. Supporters also suggest that the plan ultimately helps employees who want to work more hours.
Will Wisconsin Have 7-Day Workweeks - The Atlantic
Yep. The GOP is awesome.
Morons.
Hold on there, Cowboy.
104.001 Statewide concern; uniformity.
(1) The legislature finds that the provision of a living wage that is uniform throughout the state is a matter of statewide concern and that the enactment of a living wage ordinance by a city, village, town, or county would be logically inconsistent with, would defeat the purpose of, and would go against the spirit of this chapter. Therefore, this chapter shall be construed as an enactment of statewide concern for the purpose of providing a living wage that is uniform throughout the state.
(2) A city, village, town, or county may not enact and administer an ordinance establishing a living wage. Any city, village, town, or county living wage ordinance that is in effect on June 16, 2005, is void.
(3) This section does not affect any of the following:
(a) The requirement that employees employed on a public works project contracted for by a city, village, town, or county be paid at the prevailing wage rate, as defined in s. 66.0903 (1) (g), as required under s. 66.0903.
(b) An ordinance that requires an employee of a county, city, village, or town, an employee who performs work under a contract for the provision of services to a county, city, village, or town, or an employee who performs work that is funded by financial assistance from a county, city, village, or town, to be paid at a minimum wage rate specified in the ordinance.
History: 2005 a. 12; 2009 a. 28; 2011 a. 32.
Madison's Minimum-Wage Ordinance, Section 104.001, and the Future of Home Rule in Wisconsin. Burchill. 2007 WLR 151.
104.01 Definitions. The following terms as used in this chapter shall be construed as follows:
(1) "Department" means the department of workforce development.
(2)
(a) "Employee" means every individual who is in receipt of or is entitled to any compensation for labor performed for any employer.
(b) "Employee" does not mean:
1. Any individual engaged in the house to house delivery of newspapers to the consumer or engaged in direct retail sale to the consumer.
2. Any individual engaged in performing services for a person as a real estate agent or as a real estate salesperson, if all of those services are performed for remuneration solely by commission.
3. Any individual engaged in performing services for an employer described in sub. (3) (b) if that individual is not considered under 29 USC 203 (e) (4), as amended to April 15, 1986, to be an employee for the purposes of the fair labor standards act, 29 USC 201 to 219, or if that individual is exempt under 29 USC 213, as amended to April 1, 1990, from being paid at least the federal minimum hourly wage under 29 USC 206 (a) (1).
4. Any individual engaged in performing services for an employer described in sub. (3) (b) if that individual is not subject to the civil service laws of the employer and if that individual is an elective officer; is on the personal staff of an elective officer, other than a member of the legislature; is appointed by an elective officer to serve on a policymaking level; or is an immediate adviser to an elective officer with respect to the constitutional or legal powers of the elective officer's office.
5. Any individual whose primary duty is making sales, as defined in 29 USC 203 (k), or obtaining orders or contracts for services or for the use of facilities for which a consideration will be paid by the client or customer and who is customarily and regularly engaged away from the employer's place of business in performing that primary duty.
(3)
(a) The term "employer" shall mean and include every person, firm or corporation, agent, manager, representative, contractor, subcontractor or principal, or other person having control or direction of any person employed at any labor or responsible directly or indirectly for the wages of another.
(b) "Employer" includes the state, its political subdivisions and any office, department, independent agency, authority, institution, association, society or other body in state or local government created or authorized to be created by the constitution or any law, including the legislature and the courts.
(5) "Living wage" means compensation for labor paid, whether by time, piecework, or otherwise, sufficient to enable the employee receiving the compensation to maintain himself or herself under conditions consistent with his or her welfare.
(6) "Sheltered workshop" means a charitable organization or institution conducted not for profit, but for the purpose of carrying out a recognized program of rehabilitation for workers with disabilities and of providing workers with disabilities with remunerative employment or other occupational rehabilitating activity of an educational or therapeutic nature.
(7) "Student learner" means a student who is receiving instruction in an accredited school and who is employed on a part-time basis, pursuant to a bona fide school training program. A "bona fide school training program" means a program authorized and approved by the department of public instruction or the technical college system board, or other recognized educational body, and provided for part-time employment training which may be scheduled for a part of the workday or workweek, supplemented by and integrated with, a definitely organized plan of instruction and where proper scholastic credit is given by the accredited school.
(8) The term "wage" and the term "wages" shall each mean any compensation for labor measured by time, piece or otherwise.
(9) The term "welfare" shall mean and include reasonable comfort, reasonable physical well-being, decency, and moral well-being.
(10) "Worker with a disability" means a worker whose earning capacity is impaired by age or physical or mental deficiency or injury and who is being served in accordance with the recognized rehabilitation program of a sheltered workshop within the facilities of such agency or in or about the home of the worker.
History: 1977 c. 29; 1983 a. 189, 458; 1989 a. 225; 1993 a. 144, 399; 1995 a. 27 ss. 9130 (4), 9145 (1); 1997 a. 3, 27, 112; 2005 a. 12; 2013 a. 285.
104.02 Living wage prescribed. Every wage paid or agreed to be paid by any employer to any employee, except as otherwise provided in s. 104.07, shall be not less than a living wage.
History: 1975 c. 94; 2005 a. 12.
104.03 Unlawful wages. Any employer paying, offering to pay, or agreeing to pay any employee a wage lower or less in value than a living wage is guilty of a violation of this chapter.
History: 1975 c. 94; 2005 a. 12.
104.04 Classifications; department's authority. The department shall investigate, ascertain, determine, and fix such reasonable classifications, and shall impose general or special orders, determining the living wage, and shall carry out the purposes of this chapter. Such investigations, classifications, and orders shall be made as provided under s. 103.005, and the penalties specified in s. 103.005 (12) shall apply to and be imposed for any violation of this chapter. In determining the living wage, the department may consider the effect that an increase in the living wage might have on the economy of the state, including the effect of a living wage increase on job creation, retention, and expansion, on the availability of entry-level jobs, and on regional economic conditions within the state. The department may not establish a different minimum wage for men and women. Said orders shall be subject to review in the manner provided in ch. 227.
History: 1971 c. 228 s. 43; 1975 c. 94; 1995 a. 27; 2005 a. 12.
Cross-reference: See also ch. DWD 272, Wis. adm. code.
The department is charged with determining the living wage and carrying out the purposes of ch. 104 by establishing minimum wage rates. The minimum wage affected by the statute is defined as the hourly rate and does not consider benefits except tips, meals, and lodging. A municipal ordinance requiring paid sick leave did not increase the hourly wage rate as the department has defined it. Metropolitan Milwaukee Association of Commerce, Inc. v. City of Milwaukee, 2011 WI App 45, 332 Wis. 2d 459, 798 N.W.2d 287, 09-1874.
104.045 Tipped employees. The department shall by rule determine what amount of tips or similar gratuities may be counted toward fulfillment of the employer's obligation under this chapter.
History: 1977 c. 179.
104.05 Complaints; investigation. The department shall, within 20 days after the filing of a verified complaint of any person setting forth that the wages paid to any employee in any occupation are not sufficient to enable the employee to maintain himself or herself under conditions consistent with his or her welfare, investigate and determine whether there is reasonable cause to believe that the wage paid to any employee is not a living wage.
History: 1975 c. 94; 2005 a. 12.
104.06 Wage council; determination. If, upon investigation, the department finds that there is reasonable cause to believe that the wages paid to any employee are not a living wage, the department shall appoint a wage council, selected so as fairly to represent employers, employees, and the public, to assist in its investigations and determinations. The living wage so determined upon shall be the living wage for all employees within the same class as established by the classification of the department.
History: 1975 c. 94; 2005 a. 12.
104.07 Rules; license to employ; student learners; sheltered workshops.
(1) The department shall make rules, and, except as provided under subs. (5), (6), and (7), grant licenses to any employer who employs any employee who is unable to earn the living wage determined by the department, permitting the employee to work for a wage that is commensurate with the employee's ability. Each license so granted shall establish a wage for the licensee.
Wisconsin Legislature Chapter 104
Ok, so.................................................what's the number?
I'll post in the morning.
Did you use up your quota for vague today?
$15 on the low end.
So a 16 year old, living with his mom and dad needs $15.00 an hour to live on, really? So what's the top end?
After all, nobody needs a life and workplace safety is optional
That's the thing. These kinds of laws aren't about protecting rights. They're about forcing conformity.Wisconsin’s GOP is trying to nix an existing law that requires employers in the manufacturing and retail sectors to give employees at least 24 hours off during each consecutive seven-day period. Currently, for an employee to skip his or her weekly day off, an employer has to get approval from the state’s Department of Workforce Development. The Wisconsin Manufacturers and Commerce association—a staunch advocate of the bill—suggests that the step is onerous and unnecessary, since the department has approved 733 such requests over the past five years, a number they imply means that the department is rubber-stamping the requests. Supporters also suggest that the plan ultimately helps employees who want to work more hours.
Will Wisconsin Have 7-Day Workweeks - The Atlantic
Yep. The GOP is awesome.
Morons.
So, if I want to work 7 days a week, why shouldn't I be able to? The existing law sound pretty stupid. So, I have to get permission from the government to work on my day off?
That's stupid.
Did you know that willful blindness of the law can and may be considered a moral turpitude? Should we get a "holy Father" involved for the sake of Better Religions even without a Bureau.The answer is 54.Why is labor as the least wealthy under our form of Capitalism but not Socialism, denied and disparaged equal application of the law regarding employment at will and unemployment compensation on that same, at-will basis in any at-will employment State?if you get fired you can claim UE under many situationsHow much choice does labor get when exercising their legal rights regarding employment at will and unemployment compensation simply for being unemployed on an at-will basis in any at-will employment State.Can you be more specific?How much choice does labor get when exercising their legal rights regarding employment at will and unemployment compensation simply for being unemployed on an at-will basis in any at-will employment State.
Why does the right, as if by custom and habit until it is ingrained as a moral, prefer to bear false witness to our own laws on an Institutional basis and claim poverty is an Individual problem?
What legal rights are employees in At Will states are being denied?
if you just quit, well tough shit for not finding another job before you quit
Ok, so.................................................what's the number?
I'll post in the morning.
Did you use up your quota for vague today?
$15 on the low end.
So a 16 year old, living with his mom and dad needs $15.00 an hour to live on, really? So what's the top end?
Scott Walker says minimum wage jobs are overwhelmingly for young people PolitiFact Wisconsin
They also just repealed part of the prevailing wage law.
Depends on the job.
I'll post in the morning.
Did you use up your quota for vague today?
$15 on the low end.
So a 16 year old, living with his mom and dad needs $15.00 an hour to live on, really? So what's the top end?
Scott Walker says minimum wage jobs are overwhelmingly for young people PolitiFact Wisconsin
They also just repealed part of the prevailing wage law.
Depends on the job.
So many variables, so the living wage is a concept, a fantasy that has no basis in reality and the same can be said for the prevailing wage. It is all subject to change based on some bureaucrats opinion and not actual market forces, good riddance.
Wisconsin’s GOP is trying to nix an existing law that requires employers in the manufacturing and retail sectors to give employees at least 24 hours off during each consecutive seven-day period. Currently, for an employee to skip his or her weekly day off, an employer has to get approval from the state’s Department of Workforce Development. The Wisconsin Manufacturers and Commerce association—a staunch advocate of the bill—suggests that the step is onerous and unnecessary, since the department has approved 733 such requests over the past five years, a number they imply means that the department is rubber-stamping the requests. Supporters also suggest that the plan ultimately helps employees who want to work more hours.
Will Wisconsin Have 7-Day Workweeks - The Atlantic
Yep. The GOP is awesome.
Morons.
So, if I want to work 7 days a week, why shouldn't I be able to? The existing law sound pretty stupid. So, I have to get permission from the government to work on my day off?
That's stupid.
I'll post in the morning.
Did you use up your quota for vague today?
$15 on the low end.
So a 16 year old, living with his mom and dad needs $15.00 an hour to live on, really? So what's the top end?
Scott Walker says minimum wage jobs are overwhelmingly for young people PolitiFact Wisconsin
They also just repealed part of the prevailing wage law.
Depends on the job.
So many variables, so the living wage is a concept, a fantasy that has no basis in reality and the same can be said for the prevailing wage. It is all subject to change based on some bureaucrats opinion and not actual market forces, good riddance.
Wisconsin’s GOP is trying to nix an existing law that requires employers in the manufacturing and retail sectors to give employees at least 24 hours off during each consecutive seven-day period. Currently, for an employee to skip his or her weekly day off, an employer has to get approval from the state’s Department of Workforce Development. The Wisconsin Manufacturers and Commerce association—a staunch advocate of the bill—suggests that the step is onerous and unnecessary, since the department has approved 733 such requests over the past five years, a number they imply means that the department is rubber-stamping the requests. Supporters also suggest that the plan ultimately helps employees who want to work more hours.
Will Wisconsin Have 7-Day Workweeks - The Atlantic
Yep. The GOP is awesome.
Morons.
So, if I want to work 7 days a week, why shouldn't I be able to? The existing law sound pretty stupid. So, I have to get permission from the government to work on my day off?
That's stupid.Did you use up your quota for vague today?
$15 on the low end.
So a 16 year old, living with his mom and dad needs $15.00 an hour to live on, really? So what's the top end?
Scott Walker says minimum wage jobs are overwhelmingly for young people PolitiFact Wisconsin
They also just repealed part of the prevailing wage law.
Depends on the job.
So many variables, so the living wage is a concept, a fantasy that has no basis in reality and the same can be said for the prevailing wage. It is all subject to change based on some bureaucrats opinion and not actual market forces, good riddance.
You mean some bureaucrats opinion that minimum wage is a living wage?
Got it.
Wisconsin’s GOP is trying to nix an existing law that requires employers in the manufacturing and retail sectors to give employees at least 24 hours off during each consecutive seven-day period. Currently, for an employee to skip his or her weekly day off, an employer has to get approval from the state’s Department of Workforce Development. The Wisconsin Manufacturers and Commerce association—a staunch advocate of the bill—suggests that the step is onerous and unnecessary, since the department has approved 733 such requests over the past five years, a number they imply means that the department is rubber-stamping the requests. Supporters also suggest that the plan ultimately helps employees who want to work more hours.
Will Wisconsin Have 7-Day Workweeks - The Atlantic
Yep. The GOP is awesome.
Morons.
So, if I want to work 7 days a week, why shouldn't I be able to? The existing law sound pretty stupid. So, I have to get permission from the government to work on my day off?
That's stupid.$15 on the low end.
So a 16 year old, living with his mom and dad needs $15.00 an hour to live on, really? So what's the top end?
Scott Walker says minimum wage jobs are overwhelmingly for young people PolitiFact Wisconsin
They also just repealed part of the prevailing wage law.
Depends on the job.
So many variables, so the living wage is a concept, a fantasy that has no basis in reality and the same can be said for the prevailing wage. It is all subject to change based on some bureaucrats opinion and not actual market forces, good riddance.
You mean some bureaucrats opinion that minimum wage is a living wage?
Got it.
There ya go again, moving those goal posts. We started talking about a "living wage", then you bring in "prevailing wage" and now you bring in "minimum wage", do you have A.D.D. or are you schizophrenic?
But ok let's talk about the "minimum wage", which is supposed to be the first rung on the wage ladder, a place to start when you lack experience and work history. No one was ever intended to be sustained on the "minimum wage", it's nothing but a starting place. Next?
Wisconsin’s GOP is trying to nix an existing law that requires employers in the manufacturing and retail sectors to give employees at least 24 hours off during each consecutive seven-day period. Currently, for an employee to skip his or her weekly day off, an employer has to get approval from the state’s Department of Workforce Development. The Wisconsin Manufacturers and Commerce association—a staunch advocate of the bill—suggests that the step is onerous and unnecessary, since the department has approved 733 such requests over the past five years, a number they imply means that the department is rubber-stamping the requests. Supporters also suggest that the plan ultimately helps employees who want to work more hours.
Will Wisconsin Have 7-Day Workweeks - The Atlantic
Yep. The GOP is awesome.
Morons.
So, if I want to work 7 days a week, why shouldn't I be able to? The existing law sound pretty stupid. So, I have to get permission from the government to work on my day off?
That's stupid.So a 16 year old, living with his mom and dad needs $15.00 an hour to live on, really? So what's the top end?
Scott Walker says minimum wage jobs are overwhelmingly for young people PolitiFact Wisconsin
They also just repealed part of the prevailing wage law.
Depends on the job.
So many variables, so the living wage is a concept, a fantasy that has no basis in reality and the same can be said for the prevailing wage. It is all subject to change based on some bureaucrats opinion and not actual market forces, good riddance.
You mean some bureaucrats opinion that minimum wage is a living wage?
Got it.
There ya go again, moving those goal posts. We started talking about a "living wage", then you bring in "prevailing wage" and now you bring in "minimum wage", do you have A.D.D. or are you schizophrenic?
But ok let's talk about the "minimum wage", which is supposed to be the first rung on the wage ladder, a place to start when you lack experience and work history. No one was ever intended to be sustained on the "minimum wage", it's nothing but a starting place. Next?
I brought up the minimum wage that incorporates both the exact phrasing and the two law suits.
You have no firm stats on the age of people earning "minimum wage". Further, it's all (prevailing wage etc.) under the Motion 999.
Minimum wage isn't a "starting point". It wasn't created because it was a "starting point" geared for "younger workers".Wisconsin’s GOP is trying to nix an existing law that requires employers in the manufacturing and retail sectors to give employees at least 24 hours off during each consecutive seven-day period. Currently, for an employee to skip his or her weekly day off, an employer has to get approval from the state’s Department of Workforce Development. The Wisconsin Manufacturers and Commerce association—a staunch advocate of the bill—suggests that the step is onerous and unnecessary, since the department has approved 733 such requests over the past five years, a number they imply means that the department is rubber-stamping the requests. Supporters also suggest that the plan ultimately helps employees who want to work more hours.
Will Wisconsin Have 7-Day Workweeks - The Atlantic
Yep. The GOP is awesome.
Morons.
So, if I want to work 7 days a week, why shouldn't I be able to? The existing law sound pretty stupid. So, I have to get permission from the government to work on my day off?
That's stupid.
Scott Walker says minimum wage jobs are overwhelmingly for young people PolitiFact Wisconsin
They also just repealed part of the prevailing wage law.
Depends on the job.
So many variables, so the living wage is a concept, a fantasy that has no basis in reality and the same can be said for the prevailing wage. It is all subject to change based on some bureaucrats opinion and not actual market forces, good riddance.
You mean some bureaucrats opinion that minimum wage is a living wage?
Got it.
There ya go again, moving those goal posts. We started talking about a "living wage", then you bring in "prevailing wage" and now you bring in "minimum wage", do you have A.D.D. or are you schizophrenic?
But ok let's talk about the "minimum wage", which is supposed to be the first rung on the wage ladder, a place to start when you lack experience and work history. No one was ever intended to be sustained on the "minimum wage", it's nothing but a starting place. Next?
I brought up the minimum wage that incorporates both the exact phrasing and the two law suits.
You have no firm stats on the age of people earning "minimum wage". Further, it's all (prevailing wage etc.) under the Motion 999.
The age of the minimum wage worker has no bearing on it's intended purpose as a starting point. If an older worker decides to apply for a job with the knowledge it only pays the minimum, that's not the employers problem, is it?
That's a violation of Roberts Rules of Order. Thus invalid.I am trying to Establish this as a moral absolute in our Republic, Rabbi:Forgetit. You thought you were dealing with a rational person.Can you be more specific?How much choice does labor get when exercising their legal rights regarding employment at will and unemployment compensation simply for being unemployed on an at-will basis in any at-will employment State.It is libs who have contempt for working Americans, thinking they are too stupid to do anything without help from Big Daddy Government. Why do you oppose giving people a choice?Further confirmation of the right’s contempt for working Americans.
This is one of many examples of failed conservative dogma, the errant notion that the employer/employee relationship can be returned to a pre-Lochner paradigm where workers are at ‘liberty to contract,’ this is reactionary idiocy, unfounded, devoid of merit, and harmful to working Americans.
Why does the right, as if by custom and habit until it is ingrained as a moral, prefer to bear false witness to our own laws on an Institutional basis and claim poverty is an Individual problem?
What legal rights are employees in At Will states are being denied?
An employee can leave any time for a better job. And they do it all the time.
Unemployment compensation simply for being unemployed on an at-will basis in any at-will employment State.
People earning min wage tend to do so for only about 18 months on average. After that they get raises as their skill levels increase.Minimum wage isn't a "starting point". It wasn't created because it was a "starting point" geared for "younger workers".So, if I want to work 7 days a week, why shouldn't I be able to? The existing law sound pretty stupid. So, I have to get permission from the government to work on my day off?
That's stupid.So many variables, so the living wage is a concept, a fantasy that has no basis in reality and the same can be said for the prevailing wage. It is all subject to change based on some bureaucrats opinion and not actual market forces, good riddance.
You mean some bureaucrats opinion that minimum wage is a living wage?
Got it.
There ya go again, moving those goal posts. We started talking about a "living wage", then you bring in "prevailing wage" and now you bring in "minimum wage", do you have A.D.D. or are you schizophrenic?
But ok let's talk about the "minimum wage", which is supposed to be the first rung on the wage ladder, a place to start when you lack experience and work history. No one was ever intended to be sustained on the "minimum wage", it's nothing but a starting place. Next?
I brought up the minimum wage that incorporates both the exact phrasing and the two law suits.
You have no firm stats on the age of people earning "minimum wage". Further, it's all (prevailing wage etc.) under the Motion 999.
The age of the minimum wage worker has no bearing on it's intended purpose as a starting point. If an older worker decides to apply for a job with the knowledge it only pays the minimum, that's not the employers problem, is it?
It's not a starting point because you say so. You are entitled to your own opinion but not your own facts.
Wisconsin’s GOP is trying to nix an existing law that requires employers in the manufacturing and retail sectors to give employees at least 24 hours off during each consecutive seven-day period. Currently, for an employee to skip his or her weekly day off, an employer has to get approval from the state’s Department of Workforce Development. The Wisconsin Manufacturers and Commerce association—a staunch advocate of the bill—suggests that the step is onerous and unnecessary, since the department has approved 733 such requests over the past five years, a number they imply means that the department is rubber-stamping the requests. Supporters also suggest that the plan ultimately helps employees who want to work more hours.
Will Wisconsin Have 7-Day Workweeks - The Atlantic
Yep. The GOP is awesome.
Morons.
So, if I want to work 7 days a week, why shouldn't I be able to? The existing law sound pretty stupid. So, I have to get permission from the government to work on my day off?
That's stupid.
Scott Walker says minimum wage jobs are overwhelmingly for young people PolitiFact Wisconsin
They also just repealed part of the prevailing wage law.
Depends on the job.
So many variables, so the living wage is a concept, a fantasy that has no basis in reality and the same can be said for the prevailing wage. It is all subject to change based on some bureaucrats opinion and not actual market forces, good riddance.
You mean some bureaucrats opinion that minimum wage is a living wage?
Got it.
There ya go again, moving those goal posts. We started talking about a "living wage", then you bring in "prevailing wage" and now you bring in "minimum wage", do you have A.D.D. or are you schizophrenic?
But ok let's talk about the "minimum wage", which is supposed to be the first rung on the wage ladder, a place to start when you lack experience and work history. No one was ever intended to be sustained on the "minimum wage", it's nothing but a starting place. Next?
I brought up the minimum wage that incorporates both the exact phrasing and the two law suits.
You have no firm stats on the age of people earning "minimum wage". Further, it's all (prevailing wage etc.) under the Motion 999.
The age of the minimum wage worker has no bearing on it's intended purpose as a starting point. If an older worker decides to apply for a job with the knowledge it only pays the minimum, that's not the employers problem, is it?
People earning min wage tend to do so for only about 18 months on average.Minimum wage isn't a "starting point". It wasn't created because it was a "starting point" geared for "younger workers".You mean some bureaucrats opinion that minimum wage is a living wage?
Got it.
There ya go again, moving those goal posts. We started talking about a "living wage", then you bring in "prevailing wage" and now you bring in "minimum wage", do you have A.D.D. or are you schizophrenic?
But ok let's talk about the "minimum wage", which is supposed to be the first rung on the wage ladder, a place to start when you lack experience and work history. No one was ever intended to be sustained on the "minimum wage", it's nothing but a starting place. Next?
I brought up the minimum wage that incorporates both the exact phrasing and the two law suits.
You have no firm stats on the age of people earning "minimum wage". Further, it's all (prevailing wage etc.) under the Motion 999.
The age of the minimum wage worker has no bearing on it's intended purpose as a starting point. If an older worker decides to apply for a job with the knowledge it only pays the minimum, that's not the employers problem, is it?
It's not a starting point because you say so. You are entitled to your own opinion but not your own facts.
Minimum wage isn't a "starting point". It wasn't created because it was a "starting point" geared for "younger workers".So, if I want to work 7 days a week, why shouldn't I be able to? The existing law sound pretty stupid. So, I have to get permission from the government to work on my day off?
That's stupid.So many variables, so the living wage is a concept, a fantasy that has no basis in reality and the same can be said for the prevailing wage. It is all subject to change based on some bureaucrats opinion and not actual market forces, good riddance.
You mean some bureaucrats opinion that minimum wage is a living wage?
Got it.
There ya go again, moving those goal posts. We started talking about a "living wage", then you bring in "prevailing wage" and now you bring in "minimum wage", do you have A.D.D. or are you schizophrenic?
But ok let's talk about the "minimum wage", which is supposed to be the first rung on the wage ladder, a place to start when you lack experience and work history. No one was ever intended to be sustained on the "minimum wage", it's nothing but a starting place. Next?
I brought up the minimum wage that incorporates both the exact phrasing and the two law suits.
You have no firm stats on the age of people earning "minimum wage". Further, it's all (prevailing wage etc.) under the Motion 999.
The age of the minimum wage worker has no bearing on it's intended purpose as a starting point. If an older worker decides to apply for a job with the knowledge it only pays the minimum, that's not the employers problem, is it?
It's not a starting point because you say so. You are entitled to your own opinion but not your own facts.
