Mustang
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- Jan 15, 2010
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Obama and the Dems have made it clear for six years there is no common ground.I see that the post-election analyses have begun.
Unfortunately, we can count on a couple of things to happen.
For one, we can count on Democrats to claim that this is NOT a rejection of their policies, per se.
Secondly, we can count on Republicans to claim that it IS a rejection of those polices and/or that it's an electoral embrace of conservative ideas and their governing philosophy.
However, there IS another even more likely possibility which bodes poorly for the country as a whole and is an indictment on the current state of politics and governance in America. It's a combination of apathy and disillusionment with the political process as a whole, gridlock in general, and politics as usual.
Since the US has a notoriously generally apathetic electorate which culminates in an embarrassingly low turnout of only about 53% of eligible voters in years when it's a presidential election year and even far less in off year elections, AND the fact that so many people are not engaged or invested in the process because they think their vote has little meaning, AND the fact that large amounts of money from undisclosed sources have been allowed to flood the process, AND the fact that people in generally are mostly completely turned off by all the negative campaign ads, AND the fact that a small highly energized segment of the electorate dictates not only who the nominees of their party will be but can determine the outcome of a general election, this election may have considerably more to do with a general disengagement of a majority of eligible voters than any kind of ideological rejection or support for any particular party or their policies.
But I fully expect everybody to put their own self-serving spin on the outcome in an effort to burnish the credibility of whatever their governing philosophy may be. With that said, it's almost a certainty that the Republicans will overreach in the reading of the results which frankly is not supported by the simple fact that the midterm turnout is so low.
And when push comes to shove, the Republicans will probably pass bills that they KNOW the president will not sign, and the gridlock will continue for another two years, just like it has for the last two years.
So, like Jake, franco,and JoeB you think we should ONLY send him Bills he will sign..
Amazing.
I seriously question both the intentions and the wisdom of people who waste their time crafting bills they know won't be signed into law when they also know they don't have the votes to override a veto.
I seriously question the intentions of someone who says "Ok you won NOW you MUST only send the President Bills he agrees with."
That is silliness beyond belief.
The point is to find common ground that you can agree to and not waste everyone's time legislating a bill that will die on the vine after weeks or even months of working on it almost every day.
Nonsense. The republicans made it clear early on that they had no intention of compromising which is exactly the way that the base of the party said they wanted the GOP to approach the working relationship with the president.
In fact, one of the more inane comments I've heard over the last couple of years (if not longer) was that the Republicans had no intention of compromising with the president. Instead, the president had to compromise with Republicans. Well, of course that's a nonsensical statement because the nature of compromise is that both parties have to be willing to accept less than everything they they want in order to get some things that are the most important to them while also allowing the other side to achieve some of their primary goals. Otherwise, there's gridlock, and nothing gets done.