A Note on Donald Trump

[paddymurphy]

Not my first choice, however I think he would be better than the clinton cow.
maybe people are finally getting tired of the career politicians and are starting to lean toward the non-politician for office.
Its going to be an interesting campaign for sure, but the question is this, no matter how well Trump shows in the polls, will the Republicans run him as a choice or will they as usual run obvious losers right from the start. Think McCain, lost the bid to Bush for the 2000 election, had already shown himself not to be liked by the conservative voters, yet the republicans thought it smart to run him.. and thus obama.

The man has not spent a dime yet on advertising or campaigning otherwise and he personally controls three times the total wealth spent on the 2012 Presidential campaigns of ALL candidates from all parties.

But, in a crowded field of over 15 candidates with more yet to enter, Trump has shot to the TOP of the polls....without spending a dime. Isnt it the old political establishment's primary claim for dominance and 'winnability' how much money you can get for your campaign?

And the libtards and RINOs think he doesn't have a chance?

roflmao

He does not "personally" control that wealth. He has control over the various corporate entities that own those properties but has a fiduciary obligation to those entities that does not allow him to simply take out of them whatever money he wants. More importantly, most of his wealth is in real estate and other non-liquid assets. He has taken a huge hit to his income with all of those ceasing to do business with him. He has to disclose his true financial state by the end of July. We will see then whether he continues on as a candidate. By the way, the polls that give him the lead (at about 15 %) in the Republican field also show that the vast majority of Republicans will never vote for him. " In an NBC/Wall Street Journal poll, 74 percent of Republican primary voters said flatly they could not support him." Why Is Donald Trump Polling So Well - NationalJournal.com

These are simply snap shots in time. Most of these unfavorable know little to nothing about what Trump has actually said nor his actual policies are. Even neocon monolith Fox Snooze is backing off their aggressive attacks on Trump.

As time goes on more and more people will like Trump because they don't know what he actually stated and don't know his positions on the issues, but the biggest factor; 80% of self identified conservatives have said they will never vote for Jeb Bush while they say they would be willing to vote for Trump.

I guess we will see what happens, but I am feeling pretty darned good about it for now. I have four candidates I like and three of them are doing very well right now; Trump, Carson, Cruz and Huckabee.

And, as a Democrat, I hope and pray that one of those four is the nominee with one of the others as the VP candidate. A dream ticket for the democrats as it would assure victory.

Yeah, the shrill sounds of libtard hysteria prove your claim to be a lie.

Actually, the poll numbers that show about 75 % of Republicans disapprove and nearly all democrats and independents to as well is why I am telling the truth. Go ahead and nominate this asshole. Please.

 

[JimBowie1958]

Yeah, I learned that you are an idiot. Reagan was more centrist than McCain or Romney. Reagan, today, would be dismissed as a RINO by that far right fringe that seems to wield so much control in Republican primary politics. The candidate the democrats want, in order to assure their win, would be the most unelectable. You guys have about a dozen of those.

And the rest of us have learned that you are delusional.

Rejoice Conservatives They Said Reagan Couldn t Win Either And He Did RedState

In the latter sixties and early seventies the Republican party was considerably different then the party we have grown accustomed to thinking it is since the Reagan Presidency and the Gingrich majority take over in 1994. The Republican party has claimed the mantra of conservative since the eighties and President Reagan, although in recent years that mantra has not fit the GOP and many of the established politicians especially those referred to as RINOS.

The sixties and seventies saw a country club elitist Republican Party which was dominated by entrenched GOP stalwarts like Nelson Rockefeller, Gerald Ford and Richard Nixon. All considered very moderate to almost liberal in their political beliefs and all entrenched in the GOP. Then came Watergate and the anger of voters against Republicans which brought about the election of Jimmy Carter as President.

Ronald Reagan made his first move toward the Presidency in 1976 almost taking the nomination from then President Gerald Ford in an all out war at the GOP convention but the country club class prevailed and booted Reagan out choosing Ford to run against Jimmy Carter. During the Carter years as the inept Georgian bowed to the Soviet Union, destroyed an already hurting economy and told Americans we had to accept a lesser way of life then we had been accustomed to Ronald Reagan espoused the mantra of conservative Constitutional values, angering the country club GOP establishment but rallying the voters to conservative principles.

Reagan gained the GOP nomination and the country club types immediately came out and said all was lost, Carter would be reelected because Reagan and his conservative ideals could not win in a general election because he was to radical for the American public especially the country club entrenched Northeast where Republicans like Nelson Rockefeller had been the face of the GOP for years.

Pundits stated continually that Reagan could not win and the polls for the most part were agreeing with the pundits as all the way up until election day Reagan lagged behind in most polling. In fact on election day itself in 1980 almost no one believed Ronald Reagan would beat Jimmy Carter and that Carter would be elected to a second term despite the shape of the economy and the general feeling that things were going the wrong direction in the country.

But the people did not agree with the pundits or the GOP country club establishment and Ronald Reagan won in one of the greatest landslides in American history. Defeating Carter by more than eight million votes taking 44 states including Rockefeller’s New York and all of the Northeast states except Delaware, Maryland and Rhode Island and taking California in the process. He not only bucked and proved the GOP establishment wrong but his conservative message was embraced by voters and he continued to carry that voter loyalty into an even larger landslide in 1984 against Walter Mondale who was Carter’s Vice President.

 

[JimBowie1958]

Not my first choice, however I think he would be better than the clinton cow.
maybe people are finally getting tired of the career politicians and are starting to lean toward the non-politician for office.
Its going to be an interesting campaign for sure, but the question is this, no matter how well Trump shows in the polls, will the Republicans run him as a choice or will they as usual run obvious losers right from the start. Think McCain, lost the bid to Bush for the 2000 election, had already shown himself not to be liked by the conservative voters, yet the republicans thought it smart to run him.. and thus obama.

The man has not spent a dime yet on advertising or campaigning otherwise and he personally controls three times the total wealth spent on the 2012 Presidential campaigns of ALL candidates from all parties.

But, in a crowded field of over 15 candidates with more yet to enter, Trump has shot to the TOP of the polls....without spending a dime. Isnt it the old political establishment's primary claim for dominance and 'winnability' how much money you can get for your campaign?

And the libtards and RINOs think he doesn't have a chance?

roflmao

He does not "personally" control that wealth. He has control over the various corporate entities that own those properties but has a fiduciary obligation to those entities that does not allow him to simply take out of them whatever money he wants. More importantly, most of his wealth is in real estate and other non-liquid assets. He has taken a huge hit to his income with all of those ceasing to do business with him. He has to disclose his true financial state by the end of July. We will see then whether he continues on as a candidate. By the way, the polls that give him the lead (at about 15 %) in the Republican field also show that the vast majority of Republicans will never vote for him. " In an NBC/Wall Street Journal poll, 74 percent of Republican primary voters said flatly they could not support him." Why Is Donald Trump Polling So Well - NationalJournal.com

These are simply snap shots in time. Most of these unfavorable know little to nothing about what Trump has actually said nor his actual policies are. Even neocon monolith Fox Snooze is backing off their aggressive attacks on Trump.

As time goes on more and more people will like Trump because they don't know what he actually stated and don't know his positions on the issues, but the biggest factor; 80% of self identified conservatives have said they will never vote for Jeb Bush while they say they would be willing to vote for Trump.

I guess we will see what happens, but I am feeling pretty darned good about it for now. I have four candidates I like and three of them are doing very well right now; Trump, Carson, Cruz and Huckabee.

And, as a Democrat, I hope and pray that one of those four is the nominee with one of the others as the VP candidate. A dream ticket for the democrats as it would assure victory.

Yeah, the shrill sounds of libtard hysteria prove your claim to be a lie.

Actually, the poll numbers that show about 75 % of Republicans disapprove and nearly all democrats and independents to as well is why I am telling the truth. Go ahead and nominate this asshole. Please.

If it were up to me I wouldn't pick Trump first, but he is definitely better than Hitlary or Jeb the Fake Hispanic.

 

[paddymurphy]

Not my first choice, however I think he would be better than the clinton cow.
maybe people are finally getting tired of the career politicians and are starting to lean toward the non-politician for office.
Its going to be an interesting campaign for sure, but the question is this, no matter how well Trump shows in the polls, will the Republicans run him as a choice or will they as usual run obvious losers right from the start. Think McCain, lost the bid to Bush for the 2000 election, had already shown himself not to be liked by the conservative voters, yet the republicans thought it smart to run him.. and thus obama.

He does not "personally" control that wealth. He has control over the various corporate entities that own those properties but has a fiduciary obligation to those entities that does not allow him to simply take out of them whatever money he wants. More importantly, most of his wealth is in real estate and other non-liquid assets. He has taken a huge hit to his income with all of those ceasing to do business with him. He has to disclose his true financial state by the end of July. We will see then whether he continues on as a candidate. By the way, the polls that give him the lead (at about 15 %) in the Republican field also show that the vast majority of Republicans will never vote for him. " In an NBC/Wall Street Journal poll, 74 percent of Republican primary voters said flatly they could not support him." Why Is Donald Trump Polling So Well - NationalJournal.com

These are simply snap shots in time. Most of these unfavorable know little to nothing about what Trump has actually said nor his actual policies are. Even neocon monolith Fox Snooze is backing off their aggressive attacks on Trump.

As time goes on more and more people will like Trump because they don't know what he actually stated and don't know his positions on the issues, but the biggest factor; 80% of self identified conservatives have said they will never vote for Jeb Bush while they say they would be willing to vote for Trump.

I guess we will see what happens, but I am feeling pretty darned good about it for now. I have four candidates I like and three of them are doing very well right now; Trump, Carson, Cruz and Huckabee.

And, as a Democrat, I hope and pray that one of those four is the nominee with one of the others as the VP candidate. A dream ticket for the democrats as it would assure victory.

Yeah, the shrill sounds of libtard hysteria prove your claim to be a lie.

Actually, the poll numbers that show about 75 % of Republicans disapprove and nearly all democrats and independents to as well is why I am telling the truth. Go ahead and nominate this asshole. Please.

If it were up to me I wouldn't pick Trump first, but he is definitely better than Hitlary or Jeb the Fake Hispanic.

Jeb, Rubio, Walker and Kasich are the only ones with a chance to win a general election.

 

[Camp]

He only stirs the pot

Perhaps, but what he says is still true. If it stirs the pot, so be it.

80% of Americans will not vote for him, ever.

End of story.

Jake the Fake Delegate Starkey thought Reagan was a loser.

Reagan did turn out to be a looser. His legacy is turning out to be crap. His fans and supporters grow smaller every year.

 

[JimBowie1958]

When the Hispanics lead the Dems to smashing victories next year, the GOP will change or die.

The GOP, along with the Democrat Party, is way overdue to die. It is not necessarily a bad thing on the long run.

There are reasons that the GOP is crippled, for example a long standing court order that prevents the GOP from challenging the Democrats on voter fraud.

But the true flaw tot he GOP is that it is controlled byh liberals that mask themselves as conservatives when they are anything but conservatives, fakes like Romney and McCain.

 

[JimBowie1958]

Not my first choice, however I think he would be better than the clinton cow.
maybe people are finally getting tired of the career politicians and are starting to lean toward the non-politician for office.
Its going to be an interesting campaign for sure, but the question is this, no matter how well Trump shows in the polls, will the Republicans run him as a choice or will they as usual run obvious losers right from the start. Think McCain, lost the bid to Bush for the 2000 election, had already shown himself not to be liked by the conservative voters, yet the republicans thought it smart to run him.. and thus obama.

These are simply snap shots in time. Most of these unfavorable know little to nothing about what Trump has actually said nor his actual policies are. Even neocon monolith Fox Snooze is backing off their aggressive attacks on Trump.

As time goes on more and more people will like Trump because they don't know what he actually stated and don't know his positions on the issues, but the biggest factor; 80% of self identified conservatives have said they will never vote for Jeb Bush while they say they would be willing to vote for Trump.

I guess we will see what happens, but I am feeling pretty darned good about it for now. I have four candidates I like and three of them are doing very well right now; Trump, Carson, Cruz and Huckabee.

And, as a Democrat, I hope and pray that one of those four is the nominee with one of the others as the VP candidate. A dream ticket for the democrats as it would assure victory.

Yeah, the shrill sounds of libtard hysteria prove your claim to be a lie.

Actually, the poll numbers that show about 75 % of Republicans disapprove and nearly all democrats and independents to as well is why I am telling the truth. Go ahead and nominate this asshole. Please.

If it were up to me I wouldn't pick Trump first, but he is definitely better than Hitlary or Jeb the Fake Hispanic.

Jeb, Rubio, Walker and Kasich are the only ones with a chance to win a general election.

Lol, more moderate bullshit. Every nominated moderate has lost and every conservative has won since 1972

 

[JimBowie1958]

He only stirs the pot

Perhaps, but what he says is still true. If it stirs the pot, so be it.

80% of Americans will not vote for him, ever.

End of story.

Jake the Fake Delegate Starkey thought Reagan was a loser.

Reagan did turn out to be a looser. His legacy is turning out to be crap. His fans and supporters grow smaller every year.

Lol, in that little virtual world called Libtard Sims you live in.

 

[JimBowie1958]

Good heavens, no. The Dems would take almost 70% of the vote if it were HRC vs Trump

Hows your constitutional delegation going, Fakey?

 

[Maryland Patriot]

Good heavens, no. The Dems would take almost 70% of the vote if it were HRC vs Trump

how do you figure, do you think the conservatives that say they would rather not vote for Trump would instead cast their vote for the Anti American spaw of Satan AKA hillary kankles Klinton

 

[JimBowie1958]

The man has not spent a dime yet on advertising or campaigning otherwise and he personally controls three times the total wealth spent on the 2012 Presidential campaigns of ALL candidates from all parties.

But, in a crowded field of over 15 candidates with more yet to enter, Trump has shot to the TOP of the polls....without spending a dime. Isnt it the old political establishment's primary claim for dominance and 'winnability' how much money you can get for your campaign?

And the libtards and RINOs think he doesn't have a chance?

roflmao

How likely do you think Trump is to get the nomination? To win the Presidency?

With about 22 likely candidates, anything over 5% is good. But off the top of my head, it depends more on how committed Trump is to running than anything else. At some point the GOP elites will meet with him and tell him that though he might win, the party establishment will never accept him and that they will aid all Democratic efforts to investigate and harass him out of office, if they haven't found enough campaign legal traps he has tripped into already by that time.

IF he is really determined, he will be a one term President with a constant scandal after another dogging him. If he cuts a deal with them and lets Jeb take it, the Republicans predictably lose again and Trump makes billions more USD on the whole thing, and has the pleasure of knowing what absolute scathing hypocrits our national oligarchs really arfe.

 

[JimBowie1958]

Good heavens, no. The Dems would take almost 70% of the vote if it were HRC vs Trump

how do you figure, do you think the conservatives that say they would rather not vote for Trump would instead cast their vote for the Anti American spaw of Satan AKA hillary kankles Klinton

Starkey is a liar and a troll. If you follow his posts long enough you will see that. They guy lies whenever it suits him and claims to be a wealthy GOP elite so elite that if a states Constitutional convention is called he is a lock on being a delegate.

In other words he is so full of shit he has long forgotten what the real world even smells like.

But waste your time on him by all means if you like arguing with mentally disabled twats.

 

[JimBowie1958]

Not my first choice, however I think he would be better than the clinton cow.
maybe people are finally getting tired of the career politicians and are starting to lean toward the non-politician for office.
Its going to be an interesting campaign for sure, but the question is this, no matter how well Trump shows in the polls, will the Republicans run him as a choice or will they as usual run obvious losers right from the start. Think McCain, lost the bid to Bush for the 2000 election, had already shown himself not to be liked by the conservative voters, yet the republicans thought it smart to run him.. and thus obama.

The man has not spent a dime yet on advertising or campaigning otherwise and he personally controls three times the total wealth spent on the 2012 Presidential campaigns of ALL candidates from all parties.

But, in a crowded field of over 15 candidates with more yet to enter, Trump has shot to the TOP of the polls....without spending a dime. Isnt it the old political establishment's primary claim for dominance and 'winnability' how much money you can get for your campaign?

And the libtards and RINOs think he doesn't have a chance?

roflmao

He does not "personally" control that wealth. He has control over the various corporate entities that own those properties but has a fiduciary obligation to those entities that does not allow him to simply take out of them whatever money he wants. More importantly, most of his wealth is in real estate and other non-liquid assets. He has taken a huge hit to his income with all of those ceasing to do business with him. He has to disclose his true financial state by the end of July. We will see then whether he continues on as a candidate. By the way, the polls that give him the lead (at about 15 %) in the Republican field also show that the vast majority of Republicans will never vote for him. " In an NBC/Wall Street Journal poll, 74 percent of Republican primary voters said flatly they could not support him." Why Is Donald Trump Polling So Well - NationalJournal.com

These are simply snap shots in time. Most of these unfavorable know little to nothing about what Trump has actually said nor his actual policies are. Even neocon monolith Fox Snooze is backing off their aggressive attacks on Trump.

As time goes on more and more people will like Trump because they don't know what he actually stated and don't know his positions on the issues, but the biggest factor; 80% of self identified conservatives have said they will never vote for Jeb Bush while they say they would be willing to vote for Trump.

I guess we will see what happens, but I am feeling pretty darned good about it for now. I have four candidates I like and three of them are doing very well right now; Trump, Carson, Cruz and Huckabee.

And, as a Democrat, I hope and pray that one of those four is the nominee with one of the others as the VP candidate. A dream ticket for the democrats as it would assure victory.

Yeah, the shrill sounds of libtard hysteria prove your claim to be a lie.

Actually, the poll numbers that show about 75 % of Republicans disapprove and nearly all democrats and independents to as well is why I am telling the truth. Go ahead and nominate this asshole. Please.

lol, you keep saying that like you mean it.

Just another libtard liar.

 

[paddymurphy]

Not my first choice, however I think he would be better than the clinton cow.
maybe people are finally getting tired of the career politicians and are starting to lean toward the non-politician for office.
Its going to be an interesting campaign for sure, but the question is this, no matter how well Trump shows in the polls, will the Republicans run him as a choice or will they as usual run obvious losers right from the start. Think McCain, lost the bid to Bush for the 2000 election, had already shown himself not to be liked by the conservative voters, yet the republicans thought it smart to run him.. and thus obama.

He does not "personally" control that wealth. He has control over the various corporate entities that own those properties but has a fiduciary obligation to those entities that does not allow him to simply take out of them whatever money he wants. More importantly, most of his wealth is in real estate and other non-liquid assets. He has taken a huge hit to his income with all of those ceasing to do business with him. He has to disclose his true financial state by the end of July. We will see then whether he continues on as a candidate. By the way, the polls that give him the lead (at about 15 %) in the Republican field also show that the vast majority of Republicans will never vote for him. " In an NBC/Wall Street Journal poll, 74 percent of Republican primary voters said flatly they could not support him." Why Is Donald Trump Polling So Well - NationalJournal.com

These are simply snap shots in time. Most of these unfavorable know little to nothing about what Trump has actually said nor his actual policies are. Even neocon monolith Fox Snooze is backing off their aggressive attacks on Trump.

As time goes on more and more people will like Trump because they don't know what he actually stated and don't know his positions on the issues, but the biggest factor; 80% of self identified conservatives have said they will never vote for Jeb Bush while they say they would be willing to vote for Trump.

I guess we will see what happens, but I am feeling pretty darned good about it for now. I have four candidates I like and three of them are doing very well right now; Trump, Carson, Cruz and Huckabee.

And, as a Democrat, I hope and pray that one of those four is the nominee with one of the others as the VP candidate. A dream ticket for the democrats as it would assure victory.

Yeah, the shrill sounds of libtard hysteria prove your claim to be a lie.

Actually, the poll numbers that show about 75 % of Republicans disapprove and nearly all democrats and independents to as well is why I am telling the truth. Go ahead and nominate this asshole. Please.

lol, you keep saying that like you mean it.

Just another libtard liar.

Sigh. You really are that stupid, aren't you?

 

[JimBowie1958]

Not my first choice, however I think he would be better than the clinton cow.
maybe people are finally getting tired of the career politicians and are starting to lean toward the non-politician for office.
Its going to be an interesting campaign for sure, but the question is this, no matter how well Trump shows in the polls, will the Republicans run him as a choice or will they as usual run obvious losers right from the start. Think McCain, lost the bid to Bush for the 2000 election, had already shown himself not to be liked by the conservative voters, yet the republicans thought it smart to run him.. and thus obama.

These are simply snap shots in time. Most of these unfavorable know little to nothing about what Trump has actually said nor his actual policies are. Even neocon monolith Fox Snooze is backing off their aggressive attacks on Trump.

As time goes on more and more people will like Trump because they don't know what he actually stated and don't know his positions on the issues, but the biggest factor; 80% of self identified conservatives have said they will never vote for Jeb Bush while they say they would be willing to vote for Trump.

I guess we will see what happens, but I am feeling pretty darned good about it for now. I have four candidates I like and three of them are doing very well right now; Trump, Carson, Cruz and Huckabee.

And, as a Democrat, I hope and pray that one of those four is the nominee with one of the others as the VP candidate. A dream ticket for the democrats as it would assure victory.

Yeah, the shrill sounds of libtard hysteria prove your claim to be a lie.

Actually, the poll numbers that show about 75 % of Republicans disapprove and nearly all democrats and independents to as well is why I am telling the truth. Go ahead and nominate this asshole. Please.

lol, you keep saying that like you mean it.

Just another libtard liar.

Sigh. You really are that stupid, aren't you?

You have no factgs, make no rational arguments, but just assume I am stupid because I disagree with you?

roflmao

 

[JakeStarkey]

80% of Americans will not vote for him, ever.

End of story.

Jake the Fake Delegate Starkey thought Reagan was a loser.

You would not vote for him today, though: he is too liberal. I would if he would admit to Iran Contra.

 

[JakeStarkey]

"There are reasons that the GOP is crippled, for example," the Jim Bowies and those crazies.

 

[Maryland Patriot]

80% of Americans will not vote for him, ever.

End of story.

Jake the Fake Delegate Starkey thought Reagan was a loser.

You would not vote for him today, though: he is too liberal. I would if he would admit to Iran Contra.

If you are still worked up over the Iran Contra deal (what difference does it make now) this should really piss you off when it comes to the liberals.
Obama s Iran Nuclear Deal Is an Unforgivable Betrayal of Israel - US News

 

[paddymurphy]

And, as a Democrat, I hope and pray that one of those four is the nominee with one of the others as the VP candidate. A dream ticket for the democrats as it would assure victory.

Yeah, the shrill sounds of libtard hysteria prove your claim to be a lie.

Actually, the poll numbers that show about 75 % of Republicans disapprove and nearly all democrats and independents to as well is why I am telling the truth. Go ahead and nominate this asshole. Please.

lol, you keep saying that like you mean it.

Just another libtard liar.

Sigh. You really are that stupid, aren't you?

You have no factgs, make no rational arguments, but just assume I am stupid because I disagree with you?

roflmao

I provided you with the fucking polling numbers. You tout his "lead" in those polls and then claim they are bogus when the same polls show that most Americans think he is an asshole and would not vote for him for dogcatcher. What facts do you rely on to claim he will win? Have you talked to several million Republicans?

 

[paddymurphy]

Trump is the anti-LeBron — popularity is performance in politics, and Trump is the first candidate in modern presidential primary history to begin the campaign with a majority of his own party disliking him. A whopping 57 percent of Republicans have an unfavorable view of Trump, according to an average of the three most recent polls. That beats former record holder Pat Buchanan, who had a 43 percent unfavorable rating at this point in the 2000 election cycle.1 Buchanan, of course, ended up running as an independent.

Taking into account name recognition, Trump’s net favorability rating (favorable minus unfavorable) of -32 percentage points stands out for its pure terribleness at this point in the campaign. Like his unfavorable rating, it is by far the worst of the 106 presidential candidates since 1980 who are in our database.