A Tale For Today: The Civil War of 1946

[The T]

Every country that I can think of was born of blood and ended in blood. Civil war after the inevitable collapse of this terrorist state is assured.

I pray it doesn't come to the extreme as written in the op...but as I stated? I say it with intrepidation...I am not so sure WE are headed down that road with the current regime.

 

[Zona]

ah the passive aggressive i wish there would a civil war thread.

Let me assume that you read the OP......

Had you been on of the veterans in Athens, Tennessee, in 1945-1945, what would you have done?

Succeed or get the fuck out.

God bless.

 

[The T]

ah the passive aggressive i wish there would a civil war thread.

Let me assume that you read the OP......

Had you been on of the veterans in Athens, Tennessee, in 1945-1945, what would you have done?

Succeed or get the fuck out.

God bless.

Meaning what Zoned? Succeed at what exactly? Have a veil on?

 

[Jarlaxle]

ah the passive aggressive i wish there would a civil war thread.

Let me assume that you read the OP......

Had you been on of the veterans in Athens, Tennessee, in 1945-1945, what would you have done?

He'd probably have been one of the "deputies" stuffing ballot boxes and taking election monitors hostage.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Isn't there a history forum here?

 

[JoeB131]

When government becomes riddled with corruption and intimidation,....then, there is really very little Americans can do....but rebel.
And so it came to pass.

1. "In 1946 a corrupt government was overthrown in Athens,TN by a fed up citizenry. Corruption in the election process had made it impossible for the citizens votes to be counted. The corruption was finally met by brute force and rule of law was established once again..... If a political machine does not allow the people free expression, then freedom-loving people lose their faith in the machinery under which their government functions..... if the leader has become inflated and too sure of his own importance, he may bring about the kind of action which was taken in Tennessee." Eleanor Roosevelt on the Second Amendment & The Battle of Athens, page 1


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Another of the Wingnuts tried to have a fantasy about this a couple of months ago.

From Wiki...

Veteran Bill White described the veterans' motivation:


There were several beer joints and honky-tonks around Athens; we were pretty wild; we started having trouble with the law enforcement at that time because they started making a habit of picking up GIs and fining them heavily for most anything—they were kind of making a racket out of it. After long hard years of service—most of us were hard-core veterans of World War II—we were used to drinking our liquor and our beer without being molested. When these things happened, the GIs got madder—the more GIs they arrested, the more they beat up, the madder we got ...[5]

Oh, gee, so WWII vets didn't like being rousted out of their bars. That sounds like a great excuse to have a riot.

So how did that work out in the long run? Did they establish a utopia based on the Bible and Ayn Rand, right? Unicorns and Rainbows? Free Beer Tuesdays? Topless Wednesdays?

Ummmm Nope.

The new government encountered challenges including at least eleven resignations of county administrators.[citation needed] On January 4, 1947, four of the five leaders of the GI Non-Partisan League declared in an open letter: "We abolished one machine only to replace it with another and more powerful one in the making."[11] The League failed to establish itself permanently and traditional political parties soon returned to power.[

Whoops.

Well, at least no one got killed.

 

[PoliticalChic]

When government becomes riddled with corruption and intimidation,....then, there is really very little Americans can do....but rebel.
And so it came to pass.

1. "In 1946 a corrupt government was overthrown in Athens,TN by a fed up citizenry. Corruption in the election process had made it impossible for the citizens votes to be counted. The corruption was finally met by brute force and rule of law was established once again..... If a political machine does not allow the people free expression, then freedom-loving people lose their faith in the machinery under which their government functions..... if the leader has become inflated and too sure of his own importance, he may bring about the kind of action which was taken in Tennessee." Eleanor Roosevelt on the Second Amendment & The Battle of Athens, page 1


url]

Another of the Wingnuts tried to have a fantasy about this a couple of months ago.

From Wiki...

Veteran Bill White described the veterans' motivation:


There were several beer joints and honky-tonks around Athens; we were pretty wild; we started having trouble with the law enforcement at that time because they started making a habit of picking up GIs and fining them heavily for most anything—they were kind of making a racket out of it. After long hard years of service—most of us were hard-core veterans of World War II—we were used to drinking our liquor and our beer without being molested. When these things happened, the GIs got madder—the more GIs they arrested, the more they beat up, the madder we got ...[5]

Oh, gee, so WWII vets didn't like being rousted out of their bars. That sounds like a great excuse to have a riot.

So how did that work out in the long run? Did they establish a utopia based on the Bible and Ayn Rand, right? Unicorns and Rainbows? Free Beer Tuesdays? Topless Wednesdays?

Ummmm Nope.

The new government encountered challenges including at least eleven resignations of county administrators.[citation needed] On January 4, 1947, four of the five leaders of the GI Non-Partisan League declared in an open letter: "We abolished one machine only to replace it with another and more powerful one in the making."[11] The League failed to establish itself permanently and traditional political parties soon returned to power.[

Whoops.

Well, at least no one got killed.

Americans responded to elections being stolen.....

Must be a reason that situation hits a nerve with you, ErroneousJoe.....

 

[PoliticalChic]

A nice story. Somehow I don't see Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity or Glen Beck's alter egos standing up to anyone in real life. They're to use to standing their ground while hiding behind a microphone or keyboard and shooting off their mouth.

They are out in the open arena willing and eager to discuss it with all comers...and how is this hiding exactly?

Could it be there are those as you afraid to challenge them in the arena of ideas or does thou choose to hide behind your keyboard on these boards and complain of them and their public stance?

All comers that make it past the call screeners, that is.

Have you tried?

 

[PoliticalChic]

Now would be nice if we judge people upon the content of the character and not their color.

The "Now" is my point.

Folks like you continue to either bring up ancient history, or mislabel various situations such as inequality of outcome as 'racism.'

If you read, consider Ms. Coulter's scholarly and well documented tome, "Mugged," and....while you may not change your views, you will be more informed.

You do the same thing little miss hypocrite.

I've read it.


Next?

 

[PoliticalChic]

XXXXXXX

Had you been on of the veterans in Athens, Tennessee, in 1945-1945, what would you have done?

Don't be afraid to answer.

 

[PoliticalChic]

A nice story. Somehow I don't see Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity or Glen Beck's alter egos standing up to anyone in real life. They're to use to standing their ground while hiding behind a microphone or keyboard and shooting off their mouth.

Interesting that you continue the smear of folks who are willing to confront the tsunami of MSM, the reigning political Liberal masters, and pop culture...

....evincing far more courage than you have.

Isn't that so?

Nope. But I'm sane and I do wonder about you.

No you don't.

As usual, you have neither an answer, nor a truthful come-back.

You'd like to be clever, but don't have the ability.....

 

[PoliticalChic]

ah the passive aggressive i wish there would a civil war thread.

Let me assume that you read the OP......

Had you been on of the veterans in Athens, Tennessee, in 1945-1945, what would you have done?

He'd probably have been one of the "deputies" stuffing ballot boxes and taking election monitors hostage.

Hmmm.....

...perhaps that's why he is hesitant to answer...

 

[PoliticalChic]

Isn't there a history forum here?

Did you note the first four words in the title?

 

[editec]

WE all love stories where the bullies get their asses kicked, don't we?

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[JoeB131]

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Americans responded to elections being stolen.....

Must be a reason that situation hits a nerve with you, ErroneousJoe.....

YOu mean like when that scumwad George W. Bush stole the election in 2000?

That kind of stealing of an election?

So let's review. A bunch of drunks didn't like being rousted. They ran an alternative slate. When the election didn't go their way, they used guns and violence, until state officials stepped in and let them have their way. (I'm really sure the drunks took good care of those ballots).

When the drunks sobered up, they found they didn't have jack diddly squat of a clue how to actually run a government. The professionals found jobs elsewhere, and the drunks went home.

Wow. Awesome. This is like the Teabagger fantasy, isn't it.

 

[Old Rocks]

Once again, we have the 'Conservatives', "I am so patriotic, that I wish to destroy this nation" thread.

Get off it, assholes, you are not going to be allowed to destroy my nation.

 

[editec]

Once again, we have the 'Conservatives', "I am so patriotic, that I wish to destroy this nation" thread.

Get off it, assholes, you are not going to be allowed to destroy my nation.

Well put, OR.

"I am so patriotic, that I wish to destroy this nation" ​

Yup, that describes a LOT of the players here at USMB.

Armchair revolutionaries.

Minute Men for sure

 

[PoliticalChic]

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Americans responded to elections being stolen.....

Must be a reason that situation hits a nerve with you, ErroneousJoe.....

YOu mean like when that scumwad George W. Bush stole the election in 2000?

That kind of stealing of an election?

So let's review. A bunch of drunks didn't like being rousted. They ran an alternative slate. When the election didn't go their way, they used guns and violence, until state officials stepped in and let them have their way. (I'm really sure the drunks took good care of those ballots).

When the drunks sobered up, they found they didn't have jack diddly squat of a clue how to actually run a government. The professionals found jobs elsewhere, and the drunks went home.

Wow. Awesome. This is like the Teabagger fantasy, isn't it.

I love making you look like a fool....

"YOu mean like when that scumwad George W. Bush stole the election in 2000?"

Let's just see to whom that appellation truly belongs....

1. "In the first full study of Florida's ballots since the election ended, The Miami Herald and USA Today reported George W. Bush would have widened his 537-vote victory to a 1,665-vote margin if the recount ordered by the Florida Supreme Court would have been allowed to continue, using standards that would have allowed even faintly dimpled "undervotes" -- ballots the voter has noticeably indented but had not punched all the way through -- to be counted.
Redirect

That was pbs.



2. The lead of an April 4, 2001 USA Today story headlined, “Newspapers' recount shows Bush prevailed,” by reporter Dennis Cauchon:

George W. Bush would have won a hand count of Florida's disputed ballots if the standard advocated by Al Gore had been used, the first full study of the ballots reveals. Bush would have won by 1,665 votes -- more than triple his official 537-vote margin -- if every dimple, hanging chad and mark on the ballots had been counted as votes, a USA TODAY/Miami Herald/Knight Ridder study shows. The study is the first comprehensive review of the 61,195 "undervote" ballots that were at the center of Florida's disputed presidential election....

That was USAToday....




3. New York Times headline clearly stated, "Study of Disputed Florida Ballots Finds Justices Did Not Cast the Deciding Vote,
Study of Disputed Florida Ballots Finds Justices Did Not Cast the Deciding Vote - NYTimes.com

NYTimes.



4. "An exhaustive review of last year's disputed presidential election in Florida indicates that George W. Bush still would have defeated Al Gore even if Mr. Gore had been granted the limited vote recounts he was seeking. Several U.S. news organizations consider the study the final word on the 2000 presidential election.
The study found that even if Al Gore had won the right to limited recounts in Florida, he still would have lost to Mr. Bush by at least 200 votes. The official results gave Mr. Bush a 537 vote victory."
http://www.voanews.com/english/archive/2001-11/a-2001-11-12-4-Newspaper.cfm?moddate=2001-11-12


That was Voice of America.

This must be why you are known as ErroneousJoe.


Now...since I don't use the same language that you do.....could I simply call you a moron?

Should I really reach down and use 'syphilitic idiot'?



What?
What are you yelling?
"Uncle"?

Is that it...you're yelling uncle?

 

[PaulS1950]

Anyone who believes they need more reason to feel that the federal government is an active tyrannical progression is completely out of touch with reality. Our basic rights - those guaranteed by the constitution are being voided every day. Freedom of the press and free speech are being limited and monitored. The act of bearing arms in a legal manner is being restricted. Police are taking over peoples home without legal justification to watch criminals so they can prosecute them. Our writings and private conversation are being scanned from every media type, we are unlawfully searched to board an airplane, ferry, or bus, The border patrol is searching cars without warrant up to 100 miles from our boarders when no boarder crossing has taken place and without due process. Citizens can be locked up or killed without being accused or convicted of any crime.

This and more is happening on a daily basis in the mighty USA and if you don't see that as tyranny then you are going to be very surprised when it finally dawns on you that you have lost any semblance of freedom.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Once again, we have the 'Conservatives', "I am so patriotic, that I wish to destroy this nation" thread.

Get off it, assholes, you are not going to be allowed to destroy my nation.

Well put, OR.

"I am so patriotic, that I wish to destroy this nation" ​

Yup, that describes a LOT of the players here at USMB.

Armchair revolutionaries.

Minute Men for sure

1. Sure am glad to see that Rocks and tecy are pro-America!

But...I must have missed the posts where you guys railed against the Stalinophiles like FDR and his administration.....

....and how about ObamaCare.....you know, CommieCare


2. Obama wasn't the first Bolshevik to support socialized medicine.
For context, there was Henry Sigerist: "He devoted himself to the study of history of medicine. "Socialized Medicine in the Soviet Union" (1937), and History of Medicine were among his most important works. He emerged as a major spokesman for "compulsory health insurance". ...He attacked the American Medical Association because of his conflicting views on socialized medicine." Henry E. Sigerist - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

a. And, Sigerist was one of the apologists for Stalin, including his state-engineered famine in the Ukraine. 7 million perished (The History Place - Genocide in the 20th Century: Stalin's Forced Famine 1932-33).

b. Sigerist "shared with the architects of Soviet health policy under Stalin an outlook best described as medical totalitarianism. He really believed that humanity would be better off if every individual were under the medical supervision of the state from cradle to grave....[and] Sigerist's belief in the necessity for state control over all aspects of medicine ultimately made him an apologist for state control over most aspects of human life."
Fee and Brown, eds. "Making Medical History: The Life and Times of Henry E. Sigerist," p. 252




C'mon, boys.....

....let's hear you defend America against totalitarian socialism!!!

I'm witcha!