According to the Constitution, gun control is ENTIRELY a state issue

[ShootSpeeders]

Article 1 Section 8 lists the powers of congress and controlling guns is nowhere mentioned. Furthermore, the second amendment specifically says the right to own guns shall not be infringed.

Of course we need some gun control, but it is up the states to decide. All federal laws re guns are clearly unconstitutional.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Article 1 Section 8 lists the powers of congress and controlling guns is nowhere mentioned. Furthermore, the second amendment specifically says the right to own guns shall not be infringed.

Of course we need some gun control, but it is up the states to decide. All federal laws re guns are clearly unconstitutional.

Except for that pesky 14th Amendment. The Amendments were incorporated to the States because of it. States may not violate the Constitution any more then the fed can. For example new York and Colorado are in violation of the Constitution if someone would just take them to Court.

 

[PaulS1950]

The body of the constitution grants the only powers that the federal government has. The bill of rights list some of the rights we have as human beings and the 9th states that we have others not listed and that they are all protected from government intervention. the 10th states that the powers not granted to the feds and not restricted from the states remain with the states and the people. The bill of rights is completely off government list of things it can control.

Rights belong to the people just because they are people and are CONSTITUTIONALLY PROTECTED for the individual.

 

[ShootSpeeders]

Article 1 Section 8 lists the powers of congress and controlling guns is nowhere mentioned. Furthermore, the second amendment specifically says the right to own guns shall not be infringed.

Of course we need some gun control, but it is up the states to decide. All federal laws re guns are clearly unconstitutional.

Except for that pesky 14th Amendment. The Amendments were incorporated to the States because of it. States may not violate the Constitution any more then the fed can.

The 14A does not say anything like that though it can be argued the Supremacy Clause does extend the constitution to the states.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Until SCOTUS incorporated the 2nd in the McDonald case under the Due Process Clause of the 14th Amendment: it is now federal and states' responsibility.

This will not change.

 

[ShootSpeeders]

Until SCOTUS incorporated the 2nd in the McDonald case under the Due Process Clause of the 14th Amendment: it is now federal and states' responsibility.

This will not change.

Only if you accept the absurd idea that unelected judges are the sole interpreters of the constitution and have final say on everything.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Since you are in the 1/1000 of 1 per cent who believe differently, no one is much impressed with what you think, boyo.

 

[AmericanFirst]

Article 1 Section 8 lists the powers of congress and controlling guns is nowhere mentioned. Furthermore, the second amendment specifically says the right to own guns shall not be infringed.

Of course we need some gun control, but it is up the states to decide. All federal laws re guns are clearly unconstitutional.

Obamaturd and his fellow commies care less what the constitution says.

 

[JakeStarkey]

SCOTUS incorporated the 2d Amendment under the 14th in McDonald.

What you gun nutters believe does not matter.

 

[Agit8r]

Until SCOTUS incorporated the 2nd in the McDonald case under the Due Process Clause of the 14th Amendment: it is now federal and states' responsibility.

This will not change.

Only if you accept the absurd idea that unelected judges are the sole interpreters of the constitution and have final say on everything.

That's why that court is called Supreme

 

[bitterlyclingin]

A little gun control history. Remember "When seconds count, the police are only minutes away" ie Newtown, 11 minutes @ 2.3 miles distance, 20 minutes @ around 5 miles distance.

RR: A Little Gun History...

 

[M14 Shooter]

Article 1 Section 8 lists the powers of congress and controlling guns is nowhere mentioned. Furthermore, the second amendment specifically says the right to own guns shall not be infringed.
Of course we need some gun control, but it is up the states to decide. All federal laws re guns are clearly unconstitutional.

Save that the states are limited by the 2nd amendment, sure.

 

[JakeStarkey]

McDonald changed that gang, when Roberts' court incorporated the 2d Amendment under the due process provision of the 14th Amendment. The feds can now overrule any state law.

 

[ShootSpeeders]

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Only if you accept the absurd idea that unelected judges are the sole interpreters of the constitution and have final say on everything.

That's why that court is called Supreme

HAHAHA. What a stupid argument. States also call their top court the Supreme Court. Doesn't make them dictators.

 

[ShootSpeeders]

McDonald changed that gang, when Roberts' court incorporated the 2d Amendment under the due process provision of the 14th Amendment. The feds can now overrule any state law.

Because they say so??? Why do you accept everything the SCOTUS says as final.? The constitution gives them no such dictatorial powers.

 

[legaleagle_45]

McDonald changed that gang, when Roberts' court incorporated the 2d Amendment under the due process provision of the 14th Amendment. The feds can now overrule any state law.

It means that the 2nd acts as restricition upon state and local governments in the same way that it restricts the federal governement.

Why in the name of Alan Gura would any pro 2nd amend advocate not like McDonald v Chicago?

 

[tinydancer]

SCOTUS incorporated the 2d Amendment under the 14th in McDonald.

What you gun nutters believe does not matter.

You have it ass backwards and upside down.

The SCOTUS reinforced the Second by backing it up with the Fourteenth.

Sheesh. Get a grip.

 

[tinydancer]

McDonald changed that gang, when Roberts' court incorporated the 2d Amendment under the due process provision of the 14th Amendment. The feds can now overrule any state law.

It means that the 2nd acts as restricition upon state and local governments in the same way that it restricts the federal governement.

Why in the name of Alan Gura would any pro 2nd amend advocate not like McDonald v Chicago?

Shazzam! Spot on.

 

[tinydancer]

Article 1 Section 8 lists the powers of congress and controlling guns is nowhere mentioned. Furthermore, the second amendment specifically says the right to own guns shall not be infringed.

Of course we need some gun control, but it is up the states to decide. All federal laws re guns are clearly unconstitutional.

Except for that pesky 14th Amendment. The Amendments were incorporated to the States because of it. States may not violate the Constitution any more then the fed can.

The 14A does not say anything like that though it can be argued the Supremacy Clause does extend the constitution to the states.

With all due respect you should be embracing the 14th with open arms.

The 2nd along with the 14th prevents DC and Chicago from implementing gun bans.

Hence you had the wins in Heller vs DC and McDonald vs Chicago.

 

[PaulS1950]

The bill of rights does not give the federal government any power to modify or restrict it but it does limit the states from limiting or restricting those rights. The tenth amendment states that if the power is not granted to the federal government and it is restricted from the states then that power remains in the hands of the people - individually. In short the rights protected by the bill of rights cannot be restricted or limited by anyone other than the individual in the case that one infringes on the rights of another and in doing so loses his individual rights. Felons can't vote, own guns, expect fourth amendment protection or even free speach. They have lost their rights because of the crime they committed. After ten years of good conduct they can apply to have the restrictions removed.