According To Witnesses The Michael Brown Killer Cop Acted Like A Vigilante

[protectionist]

I guess they should have stayed home and skipped the looting.
And Dirt Nap Mike shouldnt have punched the cop in the face.

Actions have consequences...

The officer initiated the scuffle by wrongly grabbing Brown through the window, and it was the force of his attack on Brown that caused injuries to his own face through no fault of Brown at all.

The witness account of the cop grabbing Brown through the window is the ONLY possible way it could have happened, since we know that is true, with the two other credible witnesses saying they were scuffling through the window.

Michael Brown or anyone has absolutely no reason to grab a cop through a window. It would never happen.

BULLSHIT!! The convenience store video of criminal Michael erased all doubt of what he was capable of. A guy with his level of aggressiveness and stupidity is easily capable of attacking a cop anywhere, as the cop facial injuries also showed,

You don't have a shred of evidence that the cop grabbed Michael, and even if he had done that, so what ? That's what cops do, you know ? That is a cops job, to grab suspects who are not complying with the cop's order, and are fleeing from him. I see nothing wrong with a cop grabbing a suspect who is moving away from him, or shooting that suspect, including in the back, if the suspect is running away. This is all standard police procedure. If cops didn't shoot fleeing suspects, the prisons would be empty, and crime would be 10 times what it now is. IF the officer grabbed Brown through the window (which you show no evidence of), that is probably because Brown refused to stop, when the officer ordered him to. That would mean Brown "initiated the scuffle" by not complying with the officer, and walking away from him (if not running).

As for the so-called witnesses, when somebody presents one shred of evidence that they were even there, at the time of the shooting, I might start paying a little attention to them. Until then, all their words are merely HEARSAY, and nothing more.

 

[protectionist]

Thanks. I never saw the last one. IMO those inconsistencies are pretty tame. They will be challenged by the defense attorney in court rightfully but the differences are too minute to pose much of a challenge for the prosecution. Whats the difference between the cop attempting to pull him in the car and actually succeeding to pull him into the car? Either way he attacked the kid first without provocation. He still pulled his gun on an unarmed person for nothing. The cop better hope to hell he didn't shoot him in the back while he was running or at a distance once he turned around. I dont see how this can be explained away unless all 4 witnesses are lying. Forensics will show how close he was to the gun each time he was shot.

HA HA HA> HAven't you embrassed yourself enough already ? You don't have a shred of evidence that Wilson attacked the kid first without provocation. Nor do you have a shred of evidence that he pulled his gun on an unarmed person for nothing. You talk like an IDIOT.

Wilson had to start the scuffle. How else can you get a cop wrestling with someone out of his own police car window? Explain to me how that can happen.

By Brown not complying with the officer's command to stop, which would be Brown responsible for starting the scuffle.

 

[protectionist]

I tend to side with the eyewitness accounts. Everyone said this poor kid turned around with his hands in the air and was executed. Short of looting, the people in that town have every right to be upset.

The "Everyone" you cite is 3 people. One is a confirmed criminal himself, who looked like he was making up the story as he went along, and he of the other 2, there isn't any evidence that they were even at the shooting scene, or ever saw anything. I tend to side with a video of the shooting, if anyone has one to present.

The witnesses appear entirely credible...as credible and earnest as anyone could be.

"Appear" ? Sorry. That's not good enough. Anyone can appear to be anything. Serial killers appear to be like altar boys when they appear in court, falsely apologizing to the victims' families, all in order to try to get a reduced sentence. You don't judge a book by it's cover. The witnesses are NOT EVEN WITNESSES AT ALL, for all we know.

 

[Vigilante]

Well, pink panties, robbing is usually reserved for what people do when they enter a store and demand cash from the cash register...armed or not. Stealing petty merchandize is not usually described as robbery, chuckles. Its petty larceny or shoplifting. Arguably, you might have a meager chance of robbery since it there seemed to be some intimidation involved; so, I won't continue to argue the point. Now if that is indeed Michael Brown, what happened to the cigars? He couldn't have smoked them all in 10 minutes. I haven't heard if any were found on the body...have you?

Bottom line...you don't get the death penalty for theft by intimidation! And, since Wilson didn't even know about that...STFU

I see you haven't been reading ALL reports about the robbery, where he handed off the cigars to the skanky, skinny guy that reminds one of Obuma! By the video, the fucking cock sucker intimidated that LITTLE MAN, threatening him, and that's a felony by itself.

Supposedly the officer stopped a group of black thugs walking down the middle of the street disturbing traffic, and acting like your typical 2 digit IQ'd monkeys. Just the big scumbags luck, he undoubtedly had words with the officer, and they had a fight, as the officer had cuts and bruises to his face... JUST LIKE ZIMMERMAN!.... I did like the pictures of the deceased thug giving gang signs, and the pic of him with a gun and a wad of money in his mouth will be a helpful piece of evidence to be shown in court. All to establish that this monkey was a thug. Now, since none of us where there, we'll just have to wait, as we did with Zimmerman for a court to decide.

No. I haven't been reading all the reports. I do have a life beyond USMB and TV. That is why I asked you an honest question, hoping for a civil answer. But, were all the references to monkeys and 2 digit IQs necessary? You know I am capable of responding in kind but I do respect the civil White posters here so I won't. There is enough hate on these boards and I really don't want to be a part of it. I am sick of it!

After reviewing the latest video, I now see the similarities of the corpse and the video of the big Black guy in the store. The picture of the guy with the gun and money doesn't look like Michael Brown... I even posted a comparison of that particular photo with an actual shot of Michael Brown.

Finally, you ought to ask forgiveness for your hatred of Blacks. One day you will have to face God... will you be more ready than Michael Brown was ?

Yes, all my references to monkey's with 2 digit IQ's are necessary! I don't believe you're one of those, but personally, I'm sick and tired of seeing the PROFESSIONAL race hustlers, black militants, and NO DIGIT IQ'd apes (shall I use CRIMINALS, PIGS, SUM BUCKETS) in the community just sitting around and waiting for some shit like this to happen. It happened with Trayvon, Rodney, and will continue to happen as long as authorities don't PUT DOWN the swine when they start to riot! If we need MORE DEAD BODIES in the streets, perhaps dozens, in order to get through to the mindless, that it is a nation of laws, and breaking the law, and then trying to escape it, are DEATH PENALTIES!, let's do it! Yes, I know currently they aren't, but this shit needs to be addressed in the harshest manner! I see NO PROBLEM with marches and expressing ones feelings, LEGALLY! Once people step beyond what is constitutionally acceptable, they MUST FACE the consequences.

The police do something wrong, we currently have a BIGOT as an AG who will make sure any WHITE PERSON responsible for a crime against a minority will be prosecuted beyond what one would think is reasonable! For the next 2+ years we live with that. Just an observation, and talking with DISGUST over the way these situations are handled by THE COMMUNITY!

 

[protectionist]

I thought WAKE was sharper than that. He should have known that there must be at least several people in Missouri with that name. But now that he has caught up with the rest of us, has he changed his tune about considering Mike Brown's ( deceased) character?
I'll not hold my breath waiting for that one!

Mike Brown's character ? >>> VIOLENT CRIMINAL (with at least one video to prove it)

To bad you got in on the tail end of that exchange between Wake and me. Otherwise you might have realized your entire response is out of context to the original input. Wake did , indeed find and post information on a Michael Brown which curiously had no a race, age, height or weight data in it. Further, the information was dated 2013. By the time Wake posted that info , the police chief had already publicly broadcasted that the deceased Michael Brown had no criminal record. That is when we knew that some "conservative" was trying hard to conjure anything they could to make their case stronger.

Now, that video didn't clearly show the face of the individual in the store. For all we know it could have been a look-a-like. We still don't know for sure that the video was of Michael Brown. There is some doubt.


for one thing, according to other publicized reports from the police chief, the cop who shot Brown wasn't even aware of the alleged"shoplifting" incident at all. I say alleged because the video didn't have sound. That means the confrontation between the suspect and the store clerk/owner could have been about anything, including age verification or
putting the cigars on a tab. It also would be nice to know the date of that video since some new information is circulating about the difference in clothing worn by the shoplifter and the that worn by the deceased.

Finally, your nexus between Brown's criminal history and the shooting doesn't exist.
Brown was killed for reasons unrelated to that video because the cop was not aware of it.

HA HA HA! Are you trying to win a booby prize in this forum ?

EARTH TO JQP: There is NO DOUBT that it was Micael Brown in the video. NONE. ZERO. Brown's parents confirmed that it was him in the video. They even held a press conference complaining that the video was trying to assassinate Brown's character. Well, the video didn't assassinate Brown's character. Video's don't think. They only report truth. BROWN is who assasinated Brown's character, by being the criminal thug that he was, and stupidly commiting a strong arm robbery right in front of the cameras.

All your talk trying to discredit the video is a joke. Everyone accepts the fact that Brown was in the video and he committed 3 crimes in front of the camera. Burglary, battery, and simple assault.

As for Wake's post, that has nothing to do with anything I've said. Absolutely nothing.

We also don't know if the cop was unaware about the robbery. That sounds ridiculous, since the cop was, there in response to a 911 call from the store clerk ABOUT THE ROBBERY AND BATTERY. I aleady refuted this 3 times earlier in the thread. Try reading it.

 

[protectionist]

Yeah, I had it on, but I was speaking to my parents and my brother in a group Skype so couldn't hear it. She looked very poise though. Nice looking young lady.

So were the Manson family girls.

Manson's girls had no where near the character or class Tiffany Mitchell has. I doubt if she would ever be a groupie for some stringy haired punk like Manson!

How the hell do you know what character or class Tiffany Mitchell has ? And no matter what kind she has, she still could be lying. Her words are still nothing but HEARSAY. Got a video ? Come back when you do.

 

[protectionist]

As the WORM TURNS.....

Crying Wolf Hurts Civil Rights Movement

IBD ^


Racial Politics: We didn't think today's civil-rights leaders could lose more credibility after they covered up the facts in the Trayvon Martin case.

Do you know how dumb that sounds? Only the cops could cover up the facts. After all, it was the sloppy gathering of evidence by the cops that helped to set Zimmerman free. That and a lackluster performance by sympathetic prosecutors.

But then along came Michael Brown. In both shooting incidents, Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, NAACP officials and others in the civil-rights movement-turned-grievance industry rushed to judge them as "walking-while-black" executions by racist whites, when in fact they were nothing of the kind.

Well, they were walking peacefully and they were Black until their walks were "disturbed" by " armed dangerous Caucasians."

Martin and Brown weren't targeted because of skin color. Nor were they the innocent martyrs they were made out to be, as tragic as their deaths were. Like Martin, Brown seems to have been the...

Then why were they targeted if not because of skin color?

Martyrs? Who said they were? If anything both exemplify the need for Blacks to arm themselves to at least have some kind of chance in these confrontations. Maybe that is already happening. Perhaps those Black on white homicides, as rare as they are, are simply cases of Blacks being faster on the draw!

You are one of the dumbest and most ignorant posters I've ever seen.

1. Martin was observed and reported by Zimmerman as suspicious, and rightfully so, as Martin's previous burglaries attested. And Martin wasn't disturbed by Zimmerman. It was Zimmerman who was disturbed by Martin, when Martin, confronted him and said "Why are you following me" Nobody (including you) knows who started the physical fight. My guess is, it was Martin.
As for Brown, he was walking out in the lane of traffic, and disrupting it. He also had just finished committing 3 crimes in a convenience store. This makes a total of 4.
Get real, dude. There were hundreds of Blacks who were just walking around in Ferguson that day, and they weren't stopped by Officer Wilson, or any other cop. You know why ? Because they were minding their own business, and were nice, law-abiding folks, and not committing 4 crimes within 10 minutes. Get a brain, OK ?

 

[protectionist]

To bad you got in on the tail end of that exchange between Wake and me. Otherwise you might have realized your entire response is out of context to the original input. Wake did , indeed find and post information on a Michael Brown which curiously had no a race, age, height or weight data in it. Further, the information was dated 2013. By the time Wake posted that info , the police chief had already publicly broadcasted that the deceased Michael Brown had no criminal record. That is when we knew that some "conservative" was trying hard to conjure anything they could to make their case stronger.

Now, that video didn't clearly show the face of the individual in the store. For all we know it could have been a look-a-like. We still don't know for sure that the video was of Michael Brown. There is some doubt.


for one thing, according to other publicized reports from the police chief, the cop who shot Brown wasn't even aware of the alleged"shoplifting" incident at all. I say alleged because the video didn't have sound. That means the confrontation between the suspect and the store clerk/owner could have been about anything, including age verification or
putting the cigars on a tab. It also would be nice to know the date of that video since some new information is circulating about the difference in clothing worn by the shoplifter and the that worn by the deceased.

Finally, your nexus between Brown's criminal history and the shooting doesn't exist.
Brown was killed for reasons unrelated to that video because the cop was not aware of it.

A witness to the robbery stated in the officer [who responded to their 911 call] report that the clerk had told Brown he would have to pay for those when he handed the cigars back to Johnson, at which point Brown reached over the counter and grabbed the clerk, then some more cigars, and started to leave - Camera seven even shows Brown picking up dropped cigars off the ground and looking at a passing customer with a soda, then the clerk came from behind the counter with keys and stood between the door and Brown [the witness said he was going to lock the doors until Brown paid for the cigars] then brown grabbed the clerk again (by the throat here) and pushed him into the display rack and started to leave, the clerk backs away again (I'm going to guess the clerk said something) because Brown turns back and approaches him threateningly and stands over him intimidating him for a few moments before finally leaving the store.

The officer from the 911 call at the store later went to the scene of the shooting and positively ID'ed Brown as the person in the video.

Nothing you have said proves anything... pure conjecture... Your tale could be accurate but I am not ready to take your word for it at this juncture. No link?

What difference in clothing?

White t-shirt, red hat, yellow socks, and khaki shorts. I've seen the video from both cameras at the store and I've seen at least three shots of Browns uncovered body, all clothing matches as far as I can tell.

The video I saw was in black and white. I've seen no shots of Brown's uncovered body.
where do I look?

Still, even if all you said turns out to be legit, if the statements of known public witnesses
indicate Brown was executed after trying to surrender. If that doesn't bother you, how do you respond to the publicized statement from the chief that officer Wilson did not know about the shoplifting incident, supposedly committed by Brown when he shot him?

If you had read the earlier posts in this thread, you wouldn't be now asking such stupid questions.

 

[Againsheila]

MB did steal just before being stopped OP.

The cop who shot him wasn't aware he was a suspect in a robbery, so it has nothing to do with his death.

No, but if he behaved to the cop the way he did to the store clerk, that has bearing. Plus, I don't buy his friends claim that the cop was holding Michael by the throat with one hand.

 

[protectionist]

Do you know how dumb that sounds? Only the cops could cover up the facts. After all, it was the sloppy gathering of evidence by the cops that helped to set Zimmerman free. That and a lackluster performance by sympathetic prosecutors.

Well, they were walking peacefully and they were Black until their walks were "disturbed" by " armed dangerous Caucasians."

Then why were they targeted if not because of skin color?

Martyrs? Who said they were? If anything both exemplify the need for Blacks to arm themselves to at least have some kind of chance in these confrontations. Maybe that is already happening. Perhaps those Black on white homicides, as rare as they are, are simply cases of Blacks being faster on the draw!

Then, how's this, Limp Wrist...He was not "robbing a store." He was "acquiring his due reparations."

Well, pink panties, robbing is usually reserved for what people do when they enter a store and demand cash from the cash register...armed or not. Stealing petty merchandize is not usually described as robbery, chuckles. Its petty larceny or shoplifting. Arguably, you might have a meager chance of robbery since it there seemed to be some intimidation involved; so, I won't continue to argue the point. Now if that is indeed Michael Brown, what happened to the cigars? He couldn't have smoked them all in 10 minutes. I haven't heard if any were found on the body...have you?

Bottom line...you don't get the death penalty for theft by intimidation! And, since Wilson didn't even know about that...STFU

I guess you don't watch news reports, huh ? It's been all over the news that the cop saw the cigars Brown had in his possession. As for the death penalty, lots of people get that when they resist arrest, try to get away, and get shot in the process. Looks like Brown was one of them.

 

[protectionist]

Holder's Justice Dept. Asked Ferguson Police Not to Release Video From Robbery, Official Says

The New York Times ^

FERGUSON, Mo. — Unrest returned to the streets of this St. Louis suburb early Saturday as hundreds of demonstrators, angered by the shooting death of an unarmed African-American teenager by a police officer, engaged in a standoff with the police that was punctuated by threats and a new round of denunciations of law enforcement practices. The confrontation, the first serious one since the Missouri State Highway Patrol on Thursday assumed responsibility for security operations here, ended at about 4 a.m. when the authorities, prompted by the gradual dispersal of demonstrators, pulled back to their nearby command post. The Associated Press...

[snip] The Justice Department asked the Ferguson Police Department not to release the video because of concerns that “it would roil the community further,” a United States law enforcement official said on Saturday. The Ferguson department released the video on Friday and the Justice official said it “occurred over the objection of federal authorities.” The official said a copy of the video had been in possession of federal investigators, as well, “and there were never any plans by the federal investigators to release that copy.”
The dispute showed further divisions among the authorities in the handling of the case. The surveillance video appeared to show Mr. Brown stealing a box of cigarillos. Shortly after the release of the video, Captain Johnson expressed his displeasure, saying he had not been told that the police planned to release it.[/snip]

There could have been another COVERUP in addition to this one. Could also be that the mayor might have order the police chief to say that Officer Wilson did not know of the convenience store robbery/battery. How could he not know ? He was there answering the store clerks's 911 call. He's probably the only one who DID know.

 

[protectionist]

MB did steal just before being stopped OP.

The cop who shot him wasn't aware he was a suspect in a robbery, so it has nothing to do with his death.

Wanna buy a bridge in Brooklyn ? See Post # 511.

 

[protectionist]

MB did steal just before being stopped OP.

The cop who shot him wasn't aware he was a suspect in a robbery, so it has nothing to do with his death.

actually the cop did know

OF COURSE he knew. Rarely has there been so much STUPID misinformation passed around, and so many people actually falling for it.

 

[protectionist]

MB did steal just before being stopped OP.

The cop who shot him wasn't aware he was a suspect in a robbery, so it has nothing to do with his death.

But, the scumbag kid had no idea that the cop wasn't stopping him for the theft, and threatening of the clerk! ....a MAJOR concern to the thug that had just committed 2 crimes!....Could THAT BE why the big bastard was SO CONFRONTATIONAL?....Arrest for a possible 2 felonies?

Sure could be. That's when criminals get really violent. when they know if they're arrested, they're going to the Big House.

 

[Bush92]

[MENTION=13580]CaféAuLait[/MENTION]

You don't believe the multiple witnesses' testimonies, but you believe the nancy story the cop gave about a gun shot first going off in the car, yet end up with him gunning down the boy 35 feet AWAY from the car??!

It's Trayvon Martin again w/you people just believing what you want to believe.

If the boy did steal something as some reports have stated, then I can see why the cop would approach the boys like that.

That's the ONLY reason to even have him approach them like that.

For the cop's sake, I hope there was a theft.

Because if there wasn't...that's his A$$!

yes it's Travon all over again alright. A media driven storyline that is false. Browns wanna be thug pals that live in the projects with him will lie even if the truth fit better. By the way Malcom, do you leak when you drink a glass of water?

 

[protectionist]

The family has already conceded that it was Michael Brown in the video. He robbed the store. No question about that. Whatever it means...debate it. But stop with this nonsense of "We can't be sure it was him". It was him you idiots. His thug friend said so too.

His "thug" friend! HA HA HA !! Yeah.

 

[protectionist]

The cop who shot him wasn't aware he was a suspect in a robbery, so it has nothing to do with his death.

Yes he does, he saw the stolen smokes then knew it was him. Should of shot him sooner

-Geaux

HOLY SMOKES! You really mean that, don't you? OMG, you are an absolute psychopath..
Hopefully, there are not to many like you out there!

I'M like him. Yeah, he should have shot him sooner. Like inside the convenience store. Then the store clerk wouldn't have been grabbed at his throat, and pushed. That reminds me. We still haven't heard if there were any injuries to the store clerk's throat. The throat is a very vulnerable part of the body, containing the windpipe, the neck vertebrae, and the carotid artery. If either of those had been broken, the clerk could have died.

Have Al Sharpton or Jesse Jackson (the race hustlers) made any inquiries about the condition of the store clerk ? Just wondering.

 

[ChrisL]

Judging by everything that has been released about Michael Brown, he seems like he was a thug bully jerk who was FAR from a "gentle giant" and who used his size and brawn to just take what he wanted from people. I've read elsewhere that he has a juvenile record (which is sealed), so it seems as if his career as a common criminal was just beginning at his young age. Does that mean he deserved to die? I'm not sure about that, but I'm not going to blame this cop either until more details come out. So far we have some of his "friends" defending him, but I'm not sure I buy their stories either. I would like to wait and see what pans out in the investigation before condemning this officer because this kid doesn't seem like the type that would "stand down."

 

[Wake]

Here's a new wrench to throw into the works. Just released:

A Witness Conversation Unknowingly Captured at the Scene of the Ferguson Shooting is a Game-Changer

 

[Geaux4it]

Here's a new wrench to throw into the works. Just released:

A Witness Conversation Unknowingly Captured at the Scene of the Ferguson Shooting is a Game-Changer

Please don't confuse us with facts

Thanks

-Geaux