Al Qaeda Calls On American Muslims To Attack USA

[blu]

President Bush is a great American. Under-appreciated, even denigrated and besmirched in his time, there is no doubt that the dedication and single-mindedness he demonstrated in going after the scum that had attacked us will someday be recognized (more broadly than it is today) as a great virtue.

he did go after them but in the wrong places. look at the destruction of the taliban once obama sent in drones and told pakistan to put ground troops in the FATA regions or we would. compare the number of leaders killed in 1 year by obama vs 6 years under bush.

Who the hell PAYS for wars like some PAYGO bullshit?

Tax cuts were designed to stimulate the economy. The problem that happened to the economy wasn't the Bush tax cuts. That's sophistry.

you don't cut taxes while spending money at insane levels. that will only add to the deficity in the short and long term unless you think the extra little money people got would make up for the extra interest on our debt.

The problem that happened to the American economy was far more complicated and involved so many other things.

i said this

President Bush was FAR more -- VASTLY more -- mature as a leader than President Obama is. The cvlaim that he demonstrated his lack of maturity as a leader is silly. It's just a chintzy way of saying, "We libs disagreed with his choices."

obama isn't a leader at all so that isn't a useful deflection. bush was a weak leader though. very soft on iran, pakistan, and north africa. allowed for hezzbloah and hamas to become legitimate world players (offically elected). a number of other things as well discussed in depth during recent years.

President Bush never stripped anybody of civil rights. That tired old claim has no basis in reality.

tell that to the librarians who couldn't attend their own court trial after being deemed a threat to national security because they wouldn't break their contract and hand over library records to a bunch of government sponsored goons.

 

[Liability]

President Bush is a great American. Under-appreciated, even denigrated and besmirched in his time, there is no doubt that the dedication and single-mindedness he demonstrated in going after the scum that had attacked us will someday be recognized (more broadly than it is today) as a great virtue.

he did go after them but in the wrong places. * * * *

More stupid liberoidal talking pointless nonsense. In reality, the idea of taking the fight to them THERE was fucking smart. But since the liberal intelligentsia (oxymorons are fun!) says otherwise, the present day conventional wisdom (lol) is that he fought them in the wrong places. Bullshit. He fought them over there while trying to create a solid foothold for additional operations THERE, in their backyard. If we had less stupid partisan disent at home, it could have worked a whole LOT better.

Who the hell PAYS for wars like some PAYGO bullshit?

Tax cuts were designed to stimulate the economy. The problem that happened to the economy wasn't the Bush tax cuts. That's sophistry.

you don't cut taxes while spending money at insane levels. * * * *

MORE nonsense. The wars cost a lot, but the Obama Administration reckless spending costs a SHITLOAD more. But, getting right down to it: you are wrong, blu. You DO cut taxes when the absurdly high taxes are part of the reason our mighty economic engine has started to fail. Hyper regulation and a policy of "tax everything that moves" is the problem. If we could cut taxes for real -- and cut the moronic mindless spending orgy of the liberal Democratics -- we could salvage our economy. But if we have to spend while cutting taxes, let it be on something that actually IS important, like fighting the evil shitheads who ARE trying to kill us.

* * * *

President Bush never stripped anybody of civil rights. That tired old claim has no basis in reality.

tell that to the librarians who couldn't attend their own court trial after being deemed a threat to national security because they wouldn't break their contract and hand over library records to a bunch of government sponsored goons.

There is no fucking case where a person could not attend their own trials.

 

[GHook93]

My question is this; Will American Muslims denounce or defend the above call for attacks against the country they live in.

It depends on the American Muslim. If it's Kalam, then he will probably defend and support this unjustified call to arms!

 

[beowolfe]

Al Qaeda Calls On American Muslims To Attack U.S.


from the above article;

"Gadahn said fighters should target mass transportation systems in the West and also wreak havoc "by killing or capturing people in government, industry and the media."

He recommended finding ways to shake "consumer confidence and stifle spending" and noted that even unsuccessful attacks, such as the failed attempt to bomb a U.S. airliner on Christmas Day, can bring major cities to a halt.

"I am calling on every honest and vigilant Muslim in the countries of the Zionist-Crusader alliance in general and America, Britain and Israel in particular to prepare to play his due role in responding to and repelling the aggression of the enemies of Islam," Gadahn said."



My question is this; Will American Muslims denounce or defend the above call for attacks against the country they live in.

If they're smart, they'll keep off the radar and be quite, since, based on past reactions, nothing they could do or say would please some.

 

[blu]

President Bush is a great American. Under-appreciated, even denigrated and besmirched in his time, there is no doubt that the dedication and single-mindedness he demonstrated in going after the scum that had attacked us will someday be recognized (more broadly than it is today) as a great virtue.

he did go after them but in the wrong places. * * * *

More stupid liberoidal talking pointless nonsense. In reality, the idea of taking the fight to them THERE was fucking smart. But since the liberal intelligentsia (oxymorons are fun!) says otherwise, the present day conventional wisdom (lol) is that he fought them in the wrong places. Bullshit. He fought them over there while trying to create a solid foothold for additional operations THERE, in their backyard. If we had less stupid partisan disent at home, it could have worked a whole LOT better.




MORE nonsense. The wars cost a lot, but the Obama Administration reckless spending costs a SHITLOAD more. But, getting right down to it: you are wrong, blu. You DO cut taxes when the absurdly high taxes are part of the reason our mighty economic engine has started to fail. Hyper regulation and a policy of "tax everything that moves" is the problem. If we could cut taxes for real -- and cut the moronic mindless spending orgy of the liberal Democratics -- we could salvage our economy. But if we have to spend while cutting taxes, let it be on something that actually IS important, like fighting the evil shitheads who ARE trying to kill us.

* * * *

President Bush never stripped anybody of civil rights. That tired old claim has no basis in reality.

tell that to the librarians who couldn't attend their own court trial after being deemed a threat to national security because they wouldn't break their contract and hand over library records to a bunch of government sponsored goons.

There is no fucking case where a person could not attend their own trials.

I won't address your partisan drivel, but the librarians did not attend their own trials and were placed under gags by the terrorists inside the fbi enforcing the patriot act. that was until the letters were declared unconstitutional as much of bush's bullshit should haev been and should still be.

 

[Liability]

he did go after them but in the wrong places. * * * *

More stupid liberoidal talking pointless nonsense. In reality, the idea of taking the fight to them THERE was fucking smart. But since the liberal intelligentsia (oxymorons are fun!) says otherwise, the present day conventional wisdom (lol) is that he fought them in the wrong places. Bullshit. He fought them over there while trying to create a solid foothold for additional operations THERE, in their backyard. If we had less stupid partisan disent at home, it could have worked a whole LOT better.




MORE nonsense. The wars cost a lot, but the Obama Administration reckless spending costs a SHITLOAD more. But, getting right down to it: you are wrong, blu. You DO cut taxes when the absurdly high taxes are part of the reason our mighty economic engine has started to fail. Hyper regulation and a policy of "tax everything that moves" is the problem. If we could cut taxes for real -- and cut the moronic mindless spending orgy of the liberal Democratics -- we could salvage our economy. But if we have to spend while cutting taxes, let it be on something that actually IS important, like fighting the evil shitheads who ARE trying to kill us.

* * * *

tell that to the librarians who couldn't attend their own court trial after being deemed a threat to national security because they wouldn't break their contract and hand over library records to a bunch of government sponsored goons.

There is no fucking case where a person could not attend their own trials.

I won't address your partisan drivel, but the librarians did not attend their own trials and were placed under gags by the terrorists inside the fbi enforcing the patriot act. that was until the letters were declared unconstitutional as much of bush's bullshit should haev been and should still be.

I will not further address your silly partisan tripe. But if you have ANY actual case where a person was accused of a crime but denied permission to attend their own trial, you'll post it.

And you will not post it -- because it's bullshit.

The gag-orders you speak of (in those instances where they exist), by the way, are always misconstrued by you libs.

 

[blu]

More stupid liberoidal talking pointless nonsense. In reality, the idea of taking the fight to them THERE was fucking smart. But since the liberal intelligentsia (oxymorons are fun!) says otherwise, the present day conventional wisdom (lol) is that he fought them in the wrong places. Bullshit. He fought them over there while trying to create a solid foothold for additional operations THERE, in their backyard. If we had less stupid partisan disent at home, it could have worked a whole LOT better.




MORE nonsense. The wars cost a lot, but the Obama Administration reckless spending costs a SHITLOAD more. But, getting right down to it: you are wrong, blu. You DO cut taxes when the absurdly high taxes are part of the reason our mighty economic engine has started to fail. Hyper regulation and a policy of "tax everything that moves" is the problem. If we could cut taxes for real -- and cut the moronic mindless spending orgy of the liberal Democratics -- we could salvage our economy. But if we have to spend while cutting taxes, let it be on something that actually IS important, like fighting the evil shitheads who ARE trying to kill us.

* * * *



There is no fucking case where a person could not attend their own trials.

I won't address your partisan drivel, but the librarians did not attend their own trials and were placed under gags by the terrorists inside the fbi enforcing the patriot act. that was until the letters were declared unconstitutional as much of bush's bullshit should haev been and should still be.

I will not further address your silly partisan tripe. But if you have ANY actual case where a person was accused of a crime but denied permission to attend their own trial, you'll post it.

And you will not post it -- because it's bullshit.

The gag-orders you speak of (in those instances where they exist), by the way, are always misconstrued by you libs.

i think you need to read up on the librarians from conneticut

 

[rr1]

Sound like the religion of peace?

Four Muslim killers of 60 years old Christian walk free from court in Egypt

Assuit, Egypt: March 4, 2010. (By Mary Abdelmassih, AINA) -- An Egyptian court in the southern city of Assuit acquitted this week four Muslims accused of killing 61-year-old Farouk Attallah on October 19, 2009. In broad daylight and in full view of witnesses, the killers fired 31 bullets to his head before beheading him, in the busy village market place of Attaleen, near Dairout, 313 kilometers south of Cairo. The dead body was then dragged in the street, accompanied by shouts of victory. Free Copts website published a video of the disfigured body (warning, violent graphic content: video).

The judge presiding over the court on February 22, said that he was not satisfied that the testimony of the witnesses established that the imprisoned men were the killers. After the acquittal of Mohamad, Ashraf, Osama and Ahmad Hassouna, there was jubilation in the court room, with shouts of 'Allah is Great' and congratulations from all Muslims, including members of the state security forces who were present.

Christians were enraged over the acquittal, since similar cases would result in life imprisonment or execution for a Copt if the victim was a Muslim.

The verdict came as another wake-up call to many Copts, according to Peter Sarwat, the plaintiff's attorney. "It sends a clear message that Coptic blood is extremely cheap." he told Mariam Ragy of Katiba Tibia Coptic site. "This acquittal will make permanent the present culture of impunity enjoyed by Muslim aggressors against Copts.".........................

 

[Avatar4321]

I'm shocked. Shocked I tell you!

 

[California Girl]

It appears all barry has done is escalated the war.

Popping off a few losers here and there, which only serves to make more join up.

You could say that, but it wouldn't be true. What would make more sense is that he is going after the people that actually attacked us, only 9 years later.

While there are areas where I disagree with President Obama, his handling of the wars is not one of them. He has shown himself to be a very effective 'warrior'. He has ordered the use of drones on a regular basis, and that saves American lives while inflicting pain on the enemy.

Credit him for being an effective order signer, but don't offend the real warriors by comparing him to those who actually risk their lives.

 

[Jos]

If Adam pearlman works for Al-CIA-da, I wonder if he will escape or they will say its the wrong guy?
Adam Yahiye Gadahn - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[blu]

If Adam pearlman works for Al-CIA-da, I wonder if he will escape or they will say its the wrong guy?
Adam Yahiye Gadahn - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

stupid post. we have a conspiracy theory forums for this

 

[Contessa_Sharra]

You could say that, but it wouldn't be true. What would make more sense is that he is going after the people that actually attacked us, only 9 years later.

While there are areas where I disagree with President Obama, his handling of the wars is not one of them. He has shown himself to be a very effective 'warrior'. He has ordered the use of drones on a regular basis, and that saves American lives while inflicting pain on the enemy.

Credit him for being an effective order signer, but don't offend the real warriors by comparing him to those who actually risk their lives.

You think putting troops in harms way rather than using drones is the way to go? Wow, you really are one dumb fuck bitch!

As for Presidential life risking, do you even know who the last real "combat while in serving in the office PRESIDENT" was? When was that, when the head of state suited up and stood on the front lines WHILE PRESIDENT!

You are a really stupi bitch!

 

[Liability]

I won't address your partisan drivel, but the librarians did not attend their own trials and were placed under gags by the terrorists inside the fbi enforcing the patriot act. that was until the letters were declared unconstitutional as much of bush's bullshit should haev been and should still be.

I will not further address your silly partisan tripe. But if you have ANY actual case where a person was accused of a crime but denied permission to attend their own trial, you'll post it.

And you will not post it -- because it's bullshit.

The gag-orders you speak of (in those instances where they exist), by the way, are always misconstrued by you libs.

i think you need to read up on the librarians from conneticut

As I said. You will not link any such thing.

There's a reason for that.

 

[blu]

You think putting troops in harms way rather than using drones is the way to go? Wow, you really are one dumb fuck bitch!

do you really think drones can completely replace troops in urban environments or densely packed terrain

 

[Contessa_Sharra]

Sound like the religion of peace?

Four Muslim killers of 60 years old Christian walk free from court in Egypt

Assuit, Egypt: March 4, 2010. (By Mary Abdelmassih, AINA) -- An Egyptian court in the southern city of Assuit acquitted this week four Muslims accused of killing 61-year-old Farouk Attallah on October 19, 2009. In broad daylight and in full view of witnesses, the killers fired 31 bullets to his head before beheading him, in the busy village market place of Attaleen, near Dairout, 313 kilometers south of Cairo. The dead body was then dragged in the street, accompanied by shouts of victory. Free Copts website published a video of the disfigured body (warning, violent graphic content: video).

The judge presiding over the court on February 22, said that he was not satisfied that the testimony of the witnesses established that the imprisoned men were the killers. After the acquittal of Mohamad, Ashraf, Osama and Ahmad Hassouna, there was jubilation in the court room, with shouts of 'Allah is Great' and congratulations from all Muslims, including members of the state security forces who were present.

Christians were enraged over the acquittal, since similar cases would result in life imprisonment or execution for a Copt if the victim was a Muslim.

The verdict came as another wake-up call to many Copts, according to Peter Sarwat, the plaintiff's attorney. "It sends a clear message that Coptic blood is extremely cheap." he told Mariam Ragy of Katiba Tibia Coptic site. "This acquittal will make permanent the present culture of impunity enjoyed by Muslim aggressors against Copts.".........................

And we plan to detain forever some against whom we have no evidence that they ever did anything, so, does that sound like "christian" principles in action? Dummies up here cheer every time a Muslim dies. Tit for tat, ya know... We do, they do, and so on... back and forth back and forth!

Empire building and statist behavior, SO WHAT!

 

[Contessa_Sharra]

You think putting troops in harms way rather than using drones is the way to go? Wow, you really are one dumb fuck bitch!

do you really think drones can completely replace troops in urban environments or densely packed terrain

of course not. I was commenting on the Cali-'tard's statement.

 

[blu]

You think putting troops in harms way rather than using drones is the way to go? Wow, you really are one dumb fuck bitch!

do you really think drones can completely replace troops in urban environments or densely packed terrain

of course not. I was commenting on the Cali-'tard's statement.

but your response was about drones instead of troops??? what were you getting at then

 

[Neser Boha]

Why the fuck would anyone - even here - come down on Islam and Muslims and denigrate them when a nutbag group like AQ is ready to exploit that attitude? The broad-brush smearing of Islam and Muslims is guaranteed to give AQ a leg up and one reason is because Muslims understand that Islam isn't a religion of violence and Muslims are not people of violence. But if they get told different to what they know then AQ just might get a few more supporters.

Well... Maybe I can clear this up for you.

As an American, we DARE AQ to recruit American Muslims... and we further DARE American Muslims to take up the fight with AQ against us.

BRING IT ON! As a great American once said...

We aren't concerned in the SLIGHTEST witht he feelings of Muslims; we aren't in the SLIGHTEST concerned with the sensitivity of Islam where some perception of a harsh word might send a Muslim to slink on the HE vest and trot it on down to the mall...

Odds are that AQ will find it's means to another 9-11, NOT thru Muslims residing in the US... but through Leftists residing in the US; and this more likely in the wake of the November elections.

Another one of Pubes' pearls ...

Fuck off ya ol' idiot. You're off the shitter yet again.

 

[slackjawed]

You could say that, but it wouldn't be true. What would make more sense is that he is going after the people that actually attacked us, only 9 years later.

While there are areas where I disagree with President Obama, his handling of the wars is not one of them. He has shown himself to be a very effective 'warrior'. He has ordered the use of drones on a regular basis, and that saves American lives while inflicting pain on the enemy.

Credit him for being an effective order signer, but don't offend the real warriors by comparing him to those who actually risk their lives.

fair enough. As you and ollie point out, warrior is a poor choice of words. The point I was trying to make is that he is prosecuting the war, not just giving up. based on his campain rehtoric, I half-way expected him to call it "peace with honor" and bring the troops home, like Nixon did in Vietnam. That is really all I meant.
While the drones certainly can't do it all, it does seem to be a way to cause the enemy pain while minimizing the risk to our troops. I am pleased that he orders the use of them, and don't care who the advisors are that tell him to do it. In the end, Obama signs the order.