***Alec Baldwin Will Go To Prison*

[postman]

That is why you ALWAYS ensure that a gun is safe when you receive it, moron. It is clear you are totally ignorant of the basic rules of gun safety. Please don't buy a gun.

An actor wouldn't know enough about firearms to determine if they're safe or not. That's why they have trained licensed professionals do that for them.

No different than an actor doing a scene with a dangerous animal, like a tiger or a bear. It's the animal handler who is responsible for the actors safety, not left up to the actor inspect the tiger for safety.

 

[Jarlaxle]

It was the prop masters job. Which is why they're currently only charging the prop-master, and not the actor. Do keep up. All that is already history.

Prosecutors on Friday formally dismissed an involuntary manslaughter charge against Alec Baldwin in the fatal 2021 shooting of a cinematographer on the set of the Western film “Rust, ” citing new evidence

Authorities have not determined how live ammunition found its way into the .45-caliber revolver made by an Italian company that specializes in 19th century reproductions.

In March, “Rust” safety coordinator and assistant director David Halls pleaded no contest to a conviction for unsafe handling of a firearm and received a suspended sentence of six months of probation. He agreed to cooperate in the investigation of the fatal shooting.

The fix is in. Baldwin, being a well-connected celebrity, was, with the cooperation of the prosecutors, able to get away with murder-I would not be surprised if one or more people involved now have substantial balances in numbered offshore bank accounts and/or Bitcoin. David Halls, not being a Beautiful Person, was the peon thrown under the bus.

 

[surada]

WRONG! The most basic rule of gun safety is to PERSONALLY ensure the gun is clear and safe. I do it even when I watch someone clear a gun before handing it to me.

You'd have done a better job than the prop master.

 

[postman]

Basic rule of gun safety--PERSONALLY ensure that the gun is clear.

That's in the real world. This is a movie set, where other people are responsible for the safety of the actors.

If you were a novice parachutist, would you pack your own parachute, or have a professional do it?

 

[Rigby5]

That is why you ALWAYS ensure that a gun is safe when you receive it, moron. It is clear you are totally ignorant of the basic rules of gun safety. Please don't buy a gun.

Except that actors don't know how to do that.
They are not allowed to "open the action" because that would allow them to replace dummy bullets with real ones.
They could not tell real from dummy bullets because there is no standard for dummy bullets.
Some armorers put paint spots on the shell, some drill a hole, some insert BBs to rattle.

About the only thing I can think of that Baldwin could have done is aim at the ground and pull the trigger.
But that would only prove the one was a dummy, not the next.

 

[postman]

They add the sound of gunfire in post production.

Not always. People are too used to CGI and all sorts of other post production effects.

Now that such tricks are getting cheaper, but still not cheap, everything from the smoke to the noise can be artificially edited in. But that takes the resources of a major studio.

 

[miketx]

Just like if somebody slipped poison into the drink the waiter later served to a guest.

The waiter didn't know the drink was loaded.

Lol, deflection. Liar, you always check a gun to see if it's loaded. Unless you're a murdering leftist.

 

[Concerned American]

An actor wouldn't know enough about firearms to determine if they're safe or not.

Then they shouldn't handle a gun.

That's why they have trained licensed professionals do that for them.

That's why they should NOT have functioning firearms on movie sets. Have you ever heard of special effects? Baldwin is guilty as a producer and as the person who handled the weapon.

 

[Concerned American]

Not always. People are too used to CGI and all sorts of other post production effects.

Now that such tricks are getting cheaper, but still not cheap, everything from the smoke to the noise can be artificially edited in. But that takes the resources of a major studio.

So cost is more important than a person's life in your and Baldwin's minds?

 

[Rigby5]

This is a miscarriage of justice. Baldwin was a producer. There was no need to have a functioning firearm on the set at all. As you have made very clear, they have the technology to take out planets with a death star on film. Why didn't they use a non functioning gun and use technology to simulate firing. Baldwin is guilty of involuntary manslaughter.

Non functioning firearms are available, but at a much greater expense, and have no other use than movie props.
It is a lot cheaper and easier to just borrow a real gun.
That also allows much greater accuracy in terms of the appearance of the gun used.
Borrowing a real gun is perfectly safe as long as the rules are followed.
Which include the fact no real bullets should have been allowed on the set.

 

[miketx]

Actually, they made sure it would "fire". To look and sound like a real gun with real bullets.
But to only look and sound the part, without firing a real bullet.

So the loud bang killed her, not a real bullet. Thank you.

 

[miketx]

So cost is more important than a person's life in your and Baldwin's minds?

Leftists are pure scum.

 

[postman]

This is a miscarriage of justice. Baldwin was a producer. There was no need to have a functioning firearm on the set at all. As you have made very clear, they have the technology to take out planets with a death star on film. Why didn't they use a non functioning gun and use technology to simulate firing. Baldwin is guilty of involuntary manslaughter.

With a big enough budget they could have gone full AVATAR, and gotten rid of the actors completely.

 

[postman]

Anyone handling a gun is responsible for the safety of others and themselves. I've been an extra in a few movies and used a gun. Idiot.

And did the prop master let you "fiddle" with the gun when he wasn't looking?

 

[Concerned American]

With a big enough budget they could have gone full AVATAR, and gotten rid of the actors completely.

AGAIN--what is more important? A few dollars or a person's life.

 

[postman]

Special effects.

None of those were special effects, especially when Charlie Chaplain dropped the side of a house on himself.

 

[surada]

This is a miscarriage of justice. Baldwin was a producer. There was no need to have a functioning firearm on the set at all. As you have made very clear, they have the technology to take out planets with a death star on film. Why didn't they use a non functioning gun and use technology to simulate firing. Baldwin is guilty of involuntary manslaughter.

They do add gunfire in post production. No question this was a major fuck up, but I don't think Baldwin was at fault. From all accounts there was friction and discontent among the crew..

 

[surada]

AGAIN--what is more important? A few dollars or a person's life.

A person's life. What are you hinting at?

 

[postman]

Lol, deflection. Liar, you always check a gun to see if it's loaded. Unless you're a murdering leftist.

Tell me, when an actor hits another actor over the head with a bottle. Is it the actor, or the prop master who makes sure the bottle is made from a fragile glass look-alike?

 

[Concerned American]

I don't think Baldwin was at fault.

No one else. It was Baldwin's primary responsibility to ensure the gun was safe. NO IFS ANDS OR BUTS. NO ONE ELSE IS RESPONSIBLE.