Allen West slammed smug liberal for claiming Tea Party is racist

[NYcarbineer]

Yet racism is your go to and so far only line of defense. Step up asshole, show me something wrong with the Tea Party platform you actually have a better solution to. Anything will work, step to the plate.

Refusing to raise the debt ceiling and sending the country into default. My better idea, not sending the country into default.

Nobody refused to raise the debt ceiling. We all know full well we have to pay off you peoples ridiculous spending spree. All that was being asked for was to get this shit under control. Make some cuts, pay off the debt and stop adding to it.

The adults in the room know that keeping up the spending at the levels you want will eventually run into an automatic default. We reasonable people are trying to avoid that.

Next question.

Nobody in the tea party voted against raising the debt ceiling? Want to bet?

 

[NYcarbineer]

Allen West is black....yet most of the trash talking about the Tea Party being "racist" are white trailer trash.

That about sums up their stupidity.

You tea partiers are assholes whether you're racist or not. Don't think that pretending you have black friends gets you off that hook.

 

[Pogo]

That's exactly what his post say's, you may want to re-read it.

I DID re-read it and you quoted it, so there's no excuse. You're a liar.

Allen West does not appreciate anything that does not include a healthy dose of self-righteous anger, it seems to be the only emotion he is capable of, he's good at being angry but it gets old.

No "black". Not even a "man". You made that part up. Idiot.

And btw there is no such word as say's. What the fuck is that apostrophe doing? "Say is"?

It's exactly what he meant and you know it.

So you're Lord God Awmighty on what people "really mean" despite the words that sit right on the page.

Fascist Asshole. You're a fucking liar who makes it up as he goes along. Dismissed.

 

[Pogo]

Not at all.

In fact it was already years old and CNBC's Rick Santelli -not FOX or the boggy men Koch brothers- is widely credited with launching the grassroots movement. While standing on the floor of the Chicago Mercantile Exchange on February 19, 2009, he unleashed what can only be called a rant against the Obama Administration's proposal to help homeowners facing foreclosure refinance their mortgages.

"Do we really want to subsidize the losers' mortgages?" he asked. "This is America! How many of you people want to pay for your neighbor's mortgage that has an extra bathroom and can't pay their bills?" He went on to suggest that he would organize a Chicago Tea Party in July, where capitalists would dump "some derivative securities into Lake Michigan." The video of his tirade became a YouTube hit, and thus the movement was born. Within weeks, Tea Party protests were sprouting up all over the country. The Tea Party name, a clear reference to the American colonists' dumping of tea into Boston Harbor to protest taxes imposed by King George, stands as an acronym as well: Taxed Enough Already. link

Thank you. I knew it was sometime in February. O'bama by the way was inaugurated 11 days before February '09. I did the math.

Thank you again. Another example of another action invoking the same theme, obviously an unrelated action but again, since the original (Boston) Tea Party was an action of defiance against tyrannical authority, it gets invoked frequently as a rallying cry.

Which makes it all the more ironic that the Koch-Armey version would co-opt the populist theme, since they are the PTB and anything but populist.

There was no difference, govt abuse and overreach. It evolved...thats a good thing, right . In 2006 there were different issues than over two years later when you pretend you were so clever to catch on to their game. When the racist bent doesn't work strawman to the rescue! Those blinders must be quite the comfort

Oh there was a HUUUGE difference. And it's spelled K-o-c-h and A-r-m-e-y. Neither of which are about to stir up the shit about corporate welfare or the MIC or "neo cons". Nor is their media arm Fox Noise. Quite the contrary. We're still waiting for Sean Hannity to get waterboarded for charity...

In the 1960s Dodge made a car they called the "Lancer". Today Mitsubishi makes a car they call "Lancer". That doesn't in any way make them the same car because they have the same name. "Tea Party" is a well known event in American history that, as you've already demonstrated here, has been used to ride many a movement into the proverbial sunset. They're in no way all the same thing just because they all chose the name historical horse icon to ride.

 

[Missouri_Mike]

I DID re-read it and you quoted it, so there's no excuse. You're a liar.



No "black". Not even a "man". You made that part up. Idiot.

And btw there is no such word as say's. What the fuck is that apostrophe doing? "Say is"?

It's exactly what he meant and you know it.

So you're Lord God Awmighty on what people "really mean" despite the words that sit right on the page.

Fascist Asshole. You're a liar. Admit it.

Hmm, cut down my entire quote to one line. You either aren't smart enough or have a position strong enough to make a logical refutation.

I'm guessing you're just a dumbass and will leave it at that.

 

[Pogo]

It's exactly what he meant and you know it.

So you're Lord God Awmighty on what people "really mean" despite the words that sit right on the page.

Fascist Asshole. You're a liar. Admit it.

Hmm, cut down my entire quote to one line. You either aren't smart enough or have a position strong enough to make a logical refutation.

I'm guessing you're just a dumbass and will leave it at that.

You're a fucking liar, moron. You claim the poster said something he didn't, you can't prove it, and now you want to declare only you know what he really meant?

Fuck you, lying hack.

The rest of your post was a torrent of diarrhea and more fabrication. It doesn't deserve a bump, let alone a response. Asshole.

 

[Missouri_Mike]

So you're Lord God Awmighty on what people "really mean" despite the words that sit right on the page.

Fascist Asshole. You're a liar. Admit it.

Hmm, cut down my entire quote to one line. You either aren't smart enough or have a position strong enough to make a logical refutation.

I'm guessing you're just a dumbass and will leave it at that.

You're a fucking liar, moron. You claim the poster said something he didn't, you can't prove it, and now you want to declare only you know what he really meant?

Fuck you, lying hack.

The rest of your post was a torrent of diarrhea and more fabrication. It doesn't deserve a bump, let alone a response. Asshole.

I know exactly what he meant.

I also know what you mean by dodging the answer to my post.

Torrents and diarrhea should be easily refuted why do you refuse to do so? I slap yours down at a moments notice. I own you and you have no response.

Are you this weak in your arguments and this easily flustered you have nowhere to go? Are you seriously this lame in your thought process you can't even come back with a rational well thought out counter?

Bend over bitch, you're mine.

 

[Pogo]

Danth gets caught in a lie, proceeds to go full Danth.

Pathetic.

 

[Missouri_Mike]

Danth gets caught in a lie, proceeds to go full Danth.

Pathetic.

You threw me a neg and that seems to be the best you can come up with. No refutations to what I had to say, no reply in any meaningful way. All you have in the well is insults and neg rep that nobody really gives a fuck about.

You are a loser. You have given me full victory and all that comes with it. You have nothing left. I'm not surprised.

 

[Pogo]

Danth gets caught in a lie, proceeds to go full Danth.

Pathetic.

You threw me a neg and that seems to be the best you can come up with. No refutations to what I had to say, no reply in any meaningful way. All you have in the well is insults and neg rep that nobody really gives a fuck about.

You are a loser. You have given me full victory and all that comes with it. You have nothing left. I'm not surprised.

You refuted yourself. Assholes like you think you know so much better that you'll hold forth and tell us what post X "really" means even though it never said that. You even declared he actually said it, put it in quotes and everything. And it's not there. And it never will be there, because you made it up.

Which makes you a worthless liar, period. Ain't no way around that.

When you have no argument, I guess you have to just make shit up.

Right, loser?

Btw Danth, if you "own" me then how come you keep PM-bombing me? That one that just came in? Going in the shitcan, unread. You lose -- because you're a loser.

 

[Faun]

Allen West does not appreciate anything that does not include a healthy dose of self-righteous anger, it seems to be the only emotion he is capable of, he's good at being angry but it gets old.

Liberals have the franchise on self-righteous anger. Whenever libs see someone using their own tactics against them, the bile starts rising in their throats.

Occupied's response is Allen West "Is an angry black man". Let that sink in for a moment while they scream racism.

That's funny -- you just did what Megyn Kelly did on her show. She falsely ascribed a charge of a veiled racist comment upon the Democrat and then tossed that strawman to West like a softball for him to swing at. And now here you are doing the same thing. Occupied said absolutely nothing about race -- you made it about race. You built up the same strawman that Kelly did just so you could have something to beat up.

 

[Pogo]

Liberals have the franchise on self-righteous anger. Whenever libs see someone using their own tactics against them, the bile starts rising in their throats.

Occupied's response is Allen West "Is an angry black man". Let that sink in for a moment while they scream racism.

That's funny -- you just did what Megyn Kelly did on her show. She falsely ascribed a charge of a veiled racist comment upon the Democrat and then tossed that strawman to West like a softball for him to swing at. And now here you are doing the same thing. Occupied said absolutely nothing about race -- you made it about race. You built up the same strawman that Kelly did just so you could have something to beat up.

It seems to be a pattern. When the realities don't fit the talking points, dammit the realities are what have to change because reality is negotiable, while talking points are not.

 

[peach174]

it really didnt start in 07. It was way before that. It took off around then though

It started in 1988 when Bush Sr. broke his campaign promise and raised taxes.
Then they were for Ross Perot. They did not really name themselves until 2007 as the Tea Party movement.

no they did name themselves the tea party back then as well. they where just small groups scattered around. But the real origin is hard to pin down. the reality is you dont know what are you talking about, because now you are giving two different stories.

I am giving the general background of the beginnings of the movement and the stages it took, not different stories.

 

[BlindBoo]

Here is something to ponder the left has stated over and over that if your critical of President Obama especially those on the right it's because of racism not because of his policies or political ideology so here is the question if your on the left and your critical of someone like Allen West, Tim Scott, or Dr Ben Carson is that racism as well?

But there is nothing racist about criticizing President Obama on policy issues. It's when folks criticize the Interloping Kenyan, Muslim Socialist\Marxist\Communist hell bent on destroying America that I begin to wonder if racism might be involved.

BTW it was the host who inappropriately brought race into the discussion so West could give his little "how can you call us racist" spiel.