Almost 140 serious injuries to Capitol Cops

The person enforcing their beliefs here, are teh liberals who want to force people to celebrate gay marriage.
Really? They forcing the baker to come to their wedding and toast champagne?


That would be the next step in the witch hunt. But you people need an offense to give you power over people.


So, if it is not baking a cake, it might very well be not attending.


Sounds crazy?

Go back in time 10 years and tell people about trans men competing in woman's sports. They would accuse you of the slippery slope fallacy and laugh at you.


Now, it's the law.
Well, then you don’t understand the issue.

No, he does, you intentionally ignore a person's constitutional right to free exercise because it doesn't fit your bigoted viewpoints.
Because that’s not what I consider the exercise or religion and i think it’s a little silly to say your religion means that someone else can’t do something.

Who is stopping them from going to another baker for their cake?

Sorry, but attending church isn't the limit of free exercise.
Someone else getting married isn’t an exercise of your religion.

That doesn't answer my question. Stop dodging.
Your question isn’t the point. Say there’s a dozen bakers. Say there’s one. Doesn’t matter. The practice of our religion isn’t baking a cake. If it is, time to get a new job.

Why is it time to get a new job? Why does not wanting to do one thing require them to give up their chosen profession?

And it does matter that the service can be obtained elsewhere, and that it's not really a Public Accommodation.

And we are not talking about practice, we are talking about free exercise.
Ah, so it’s a “you may drink from the the black people fountain” kind of stance you have.

That's your stance on social media. And a fountain is a public accommodation, it's not the same as a contracted service.

What is the damage done to the same sex couple having to go to another baker?
 
The person enforcing their beliefs here, are teh liberals who want to force people to celebrate gay marriage.
Really? They forcing the baker to come to their wedding and toast champagne?


That would be the next step in the witch hunt. But you people need an offense to give you power over people.


So, if it is not baking a cake, it might very well be not attending.


Sounds crazy?

Go back in time 10 years and tell people about trans men competing in woman's sports. They would accuse you of the slippery slope fallacy and laugh at you.


Now, it's the law.
Well, then you don’t understand the issue.

No, he does, you intentionally ignore a person's constitutional right to free exercise because it doesn't fit your bigoted viewpoints.
Because that’s not what I consider the exercise or religion and i think it’s a little silly to say your religion means that someone else can’t do something.

Who is stopping them from going to another baker for their cake?

Sorry, but attending church isn't the limit of free exercise.
Someone else getting married isn’t an exercise of your religion.

That doesn't answer my question. Stop dodging.
Your question isn’t the point. Say there’s a dozen bakers. Say there’s one. Doesn’t matter. The practice of our religion isn’t baking a cake. If it is, time to get a new job.

Why is it time to get a new job? Why does not wanting to do one thing require them to give up their chosen profession?

And it does matter that the service can be obtained elsewhere, and that it's not really a Public Accommodation.

And we are not talking about practice, we are talking about free exercise.
Ah, so it’s a “you may drink from the the black people fountain” kind of stance you have.

That's your stance on social media. And a fountain is a public accommodation, it's not the same as a contracted service.

What is the damage done to the same sex couple having to go to another baker?
What if there isn’t another baker? It’s not relevant. Externalities don’t affect the issue.

Is a meal at a restaurant a public accommodation?
 
Sorry, but people like you think all right wing views are hatred and harrassment, don't deny it.
I do deny it. There’s many rational right wingers out there. Those people aren’t being kicked off social media.

But lots of irrational ones too just like yourself.

Bullshit.

What did Trump tweet that got him banned? Did Twitter even ever say?
You think Trump never acted like an asshole on Twitter? You going with that?

You aren't answering the question. Plenty of people act like assholes on twitter, they don't get banned.

What, besides "they felt like it" was the reason Trump was banned?
I didn’t ban Trump. Ask the people that did. Are you saying there wasn’t adequate reason to ban him based on his behavior?
 
The person enforcing their beliefs here, are teh liberals who want to force people to celebrate gay marriage.
Really? They forcing the baker to come to their wedding and toast champagne?


That would be the next step in the witch hunt. But you people need an offense to give you power over people.


So, if it is not baking a cake, it might very well be not attending.


Sounds crazy?

Go back in time 10 years and tell people about trans men competing in woman's sports. They would accuse you of the slippery slope fallacy and laugh at you.


Now, it's the law.
Well, then you don’t understand the issue.

No, he does, you intentionally ignore a person's constitutional right to free exercise because it doesn't fit your bigoted viewpoints.
Because that’s not what I consider the exercise or religion and i think it’s a little silly to say your religion means that someone else can’t do something.

Who is stopping them from going to another baker for their cake?

Sorry, but attending church isn't the limit of free exercise.
Someone else getting married isn’t an exercise of your religion.

That doesn't answer my question. Stop dodging.
Your question isn’t the point. Say there’s a dozen bakers. Say there’s one. Doesn’t matter. The practice of our religion isn’t baking a cake. If it is, time to get a new job.

Why is it time to get a new job? Why does not wanting to do one thing require them to give up their chosen profession?

And it does matter that the service can be obtained elsewhere, and that it's not really a Public Accommodation.

And we are not talking about practice, we are talking about free exercise.
Ah, so it’s a “you may drink from the the black people fountain” kind of stance you have.

That's your stance on social media. And a fountain is a public accommodation, it's not the same as a contracted service.

What is the damage done to the same sex couple having to go to another baker?
What if there isn’t another baker? It’s not relevant. Externalities don’t affect the issue.

Is a meal at a restaurant a public accommodation?

It is relevant, and as you stated as part of your twitter argument "make it yourself"

A restaurant is a PA because they invite the public onto their property as a part of the point of sale commerce transaction.
 
Sorry, but people like you think all right wing views are hatred and harrassment, don't deny it.
I do deny it. There’s many rational right wingers out there. Those people aren’t being kicked off social media.

But lots of irrational ones too just like yourself.

Bullshit.

What did Trump tweet that got him banned? Did Twitter even ever say?
You think Trump never acted like an asshole on Twitter? You going with that?

You aren't answering the question. Plenty of people act like assholes on twitter, they don't get banned.

What, besides "they felt like it" was the reason Trump was banned?
I didn’t ban Trump. Ask the people that did. Are you saying there wasn’t adequate reason to ban him based on his behavior?

And of course you wallow in others doing your dirty work for you.

I'm saying there are plenty of lefties still on twitter with blue checkmarks that did things far worse than Trump.

Again, what did Trump do to get banned?
 
The person enforcing their beliefs here, are teh liberals who want to force people to celebrate gay marriage.
Really? They forcing the baker to come to their wedding and toast champagne?


That would be the next step in the witch hunt. But you people need an offense to give you power over people.


So, if it is not baking a cake, it might very well be not attending.


Sounds crazy?

Go back in time 10 years and tell people about trans men competing in woman's sports. They would accuse you of the slippery slope fallacy and laugh at you.


Now, it's the law.
Well, then you don’t understand the issue.

No, he does, you intentionally ignore a person's constitutional right to free exercise because it doesn't fit your bigoted viewpoints.
Because that’s not what I consider the exercise or religion and i think it’s a little silly to say your religion means that someone else can’t do something.

Who is stopping them from going to another baker for their cake?

Sorry, but attending church isn't the limit of free exercise.
Someone else getting married isn’t an exercise of your religion.

That doesn't answer my question. Stop dodging.
Your question isn’t the point. Say there’s a dozen bakers. Say there’s one. Doesn’t matter. The practice of our religion isn’t baking a cake. If it is, time to get a new job.

Why is it time to get a new job? Why does not wanting to do one thing require them to give up their chosen profession?

And it does matter that the service can be obtained elsewhere, and that it's not really a Public Accommodation.

And we are not talking about practice, we are talking about free exercise.
Ah, so it’s a “you may drink from the the black people fountain” kind of stance you have.

That's your stance on social media. And a fountain is a public accommodation, it's not the same as a contracted service.

What is the damage done to the same sex couple having to go to another baker?
What if there isn’t another baker? It’s not relevant. Externalities don’t affect the issue.

Is a meal at a restaurant a public accommodation?

It is relevant, and as you stated as part of your twitter argument "make it yourself"

A restaurant is a PA because they invite the public onto their property as a part of the point of sale commerce transaction.
Because you’re claiming that people are silenced which is not true.

So a bakery doesn’t invite people into their property? A reservation isn’t a point of sale.
 
Sorry, but people like you think all right wing views are hatred and harrassment, don't deny it.
I do deny it. There’s many rational right wingers out there. Those people aren’t being kicked off social media.

But lots of irrational ones too just like yourself.

Bullshit.

What did Trump tweet that got him banned? Did Twitter even ever say?
You think Trump never acted like an asshole on Twitter? You going with that?

You aren't answering the question. Plenty of people act like assholes on twitter, they don't get banned.

What, besides "they felt like it" was the reason Trump was banned?
I didn’t ban Trump. Ask the people that did. Are you saying there wasn’t adequate reason to ban him based on his behavior?

And of course you wallow in others doing your dirty work for you.

I'm saying there are plenty of lefties still on twitter with blue checkmarks that did things far worse than Trump.

Again, what did Trump do to get banned?
Okay, so what? You want to force Twitter to allow all assholes to exist on their platform regardless of their behavior. Did I demand that a bakery serve people who act like assholes?
 
The person enforcing their beliefs here, are teh liberals who want to force people to celebrate gay marriage.
Really? They forcing the baker to come to their wedding and toast champagne?


That would be the next step in the witch hunt. But you people need an offense to give you power over people.


So, if it is not baking a cake, it might very well be not attending.


Sounds crazy?

Go back in time 10 years and tell people about trans men competing in woman's sports. They would accuse you of the slippery slope fallacy and laugh at you.


Now, it's the law.
Well, then you don’t understand the issue.

No, he does, you intentionally ignore a person's constitutional right to free exercise because it doesn't fit your bigoted viewpoints.
Because that’s not what I consider the exercise or religion and i think it’s a little silly to say your religion means that someone else can’t do something.

Who is stopping them from going to another baker for their cake?

Sorry, but attending church isn't the limit of free exercise.
Someone else getting married isn’t an exercise of your religion.

That doesn't answer my question. Stop dodging.
Your question isn’t the point. Say there’s a dozen bakers. Say there’s one. Doesn’t matter. The practice of our religion isn’t baking a cake. If it is, time to get a new job.

Why is it time to get a new job? Why does not wanting to do one thing require them to give up their chosen profession?

And it does matter that the service can be obtained elsewhere, and that it's not really a Public Accommodation.

And we are not talking about practice, we are talking about free exercise.
Ah, so it’s a “you may drink from the the black people fountain” kind of stance you have.

That's your stance on social media. And a fountain is a public accommodation, it's not the same as a contracted service.

What is the damage done to the same sex couple having to go to another baker?
What if there isn’t another baker? It’s not relevant. Externalities don’t affect the issue.

Is a meal at a restaurant a public accommodation?

It is relevant, and as you stated as part of your twitter argument "make it yourself"

A restaurant is a PA because they invite the public onto their property as a part of the point of sale commerce transaction.
Because you’re claiming that people are silenced which is not true.

So a bakery doesn’t invite people into their property? A reservation isn’t a point of sale.

They are silenced by twitter.

These bakeries are not denying point of sale service to anyone, they just don't want to be contracted to provide a cake for a same sex marriage ceremony/reception because it goes against their religious beliefs.
 
Sorry, but people like you think all right wing views are hatred and harrassment, don't deny it.
I do deny it. There’s many rational right wingers out there. Those people aren’t being kicked off social media.

But lots of irrational ones too just like yourself.

Bullshit.

What did Trump tweet that got him banned? Did Twitter even ever say?
You think Trump never acted like an asshole on Twitter? You going with that?

You aren't answering the question. Plenty of people act like assholes on twitter, they don't get banned.

What, besides "they felt like it" was the reason Trump was banned?
I didn’t ban Trump. Ask the people that did. Are you saying there wasn’t adequate reason to ban him based on his behavior?

And of course you wallow in others doing your dirty work for you.

I'm saying there are plenty of lefties still on twitter with blue checkmarks that did things far worse than Trump.

Again, what did Trump do to get banned?
Okay, so what? You want to force Twitter to allow all assholes to exist on their platform regardless of their behavior. Did I demand that a bakery serve people who act like assholes?

What does the bakery situation have to do with people acting like assholes? It has to do with free exercise overriding commerce in that one specific situation.

I want twitter to follow it's own TOS in a non partisan way.
 
The person enforcing their beliefs here, are teh liberals who want to force people to celebrate gay marriage.
Really? They forcing the baker to come to their wedding and toast champagne?


That would be the next step in the witch hunt. But you people need an offense to give you power over people.


So, if it is not baking a cake, it might very well be not attending.


Sounds crazy?

Go back in time 10 years and tell people about trans men competing in woman's sports. They would accuse you of the slippery slope fallacy and laugh at you.


Now, it's the law.
Well, then you don’t understand the issue.

No, he does, you intentionally ignore a person's constitutional right to free exercise because it doesn't fit your bigoted viewpoints.
Because that’s not what I consider the exercise or religion and i think it’s a little silly to say your religion means that someone else can’t do something.

Who is stopping them from going to another baker for their cake?

Sorry, but attending church isn't the limit of free exercise.
Someone else getting married isn’t an exercise of your religion.

That doesn't answer my question. Stop dodging.
Your question isn’t the point. Say there’s a dozen bakers. Say there’s one. Doesn’t matter. The practice of our religion isn’t baking a cake. If it is, time to get a new job.

Why is it time to get a new job? Why does not wanting to do one thing require them to give up their chosen profession?

And it does matter that the service can be obtained elsewhere, and that it's not really a Public Accommodation.

And we are not talking about practice, we are talking about free exercise.
Ah, so it’s a “you may drink from the the black people fountain” kind of stance you have.

That's your stance on social media. And a fountain is a public accommodation, it's not the same as a contracted service.

What is the damage done to the same sex couple having to go to another baker?
What if there isn’t another baker? It’s not relevant. Externalities don’t affect the issue.

Is a meal at a restaurant a public accommodation?

It is relevant, and as you stated as part of your twitter argument "make it yourself"

A restaurant is a PA because they invite the public onto their property as a part of the point of sale commerce transaction.
Because you’re claiming that people are silenced which is not true.

So a bakery doesn’t invite people into their property? A reservation isn’t a point of sale.

They are silenced by twitter.

These bakeries are not denying point of sale service to anyone, they just don't want to be contracted to provide a cake for a same sex marriage ceremony/reception because it goes against their religious beliefs.
If they have a place to speak, they are not silenced.

The bakery wouldn’t have sold them any cake intended for celebrating their same sex wedding. You’re attempting to make a distinction that is already irrelevant and not true.
 
Sorry, but people like you think all right wing views are hatred and harrassment, don't deny it.
I do deny it. There’s many rational right wingers out there. Those people aren’t being kicked off social media.

But lots of irrational ones too just like yourself.

Bullshit.

What did Trump tweet that got him banned? Did Twitter even ever say?
You think Trump never acted like an asshole on Twitter? You going with that?

You aren't answering the question. Plenty of people act like assholes on twitter, they don't get banned.

What, besides "they felt like it" was the reason Trump was banned?
I didn’t ban Trump. Ask the people that did. Are you saying there wasn’t adequate reason to ban him based on his behavior?

And of course you wallow in others doing your dirty work for you.

I'm saying there are plenty of lefties still on twitter with blue checkmarks that did things far worse than Trump.

Again, what did Trump do to get banned?
Okay, so what? You want to force Twitter to allow all assholes to exist on their platform regardless of their behavior. Did I demand that a bakery serve people who act like assholes?

What does the bakery situation have to do with people acting like assholes? It has to do with free exercise overriding commerce in that one specific situation.

I want twitter to follow it's own TOS in a non partisan way.
The reason they’re not comparable is that you defend discrimination based on identity in one circumstance but demand equal treatment regardless of behavior in another.

It just so happens that gay people are harmed in once place and assholes you love are harmed in the other. You are on the wrong side.
 
The person enforcing their beliefs here, are teh liberals who want to force people to celebrate gay marriage.
Really? They forcing the baker to come to their wedding and toast champagne?


That would be the next step in the witch hunt. But you people need an offense to give you power over people.


So, if it is not baking a cake, it might very well be not attending.


Sounds crazy?

Go back in time 10 years and tell people about trans men competing in woman's sports. They would accuse you of the slippery slope fallacy and laugh at you.


Now, it's the law.
Well, then you don’t understand the issue.

No, he does, you intentionally ignore a person's constitutional right to free exercise because it doesn't fit your bigoted viewpoints.
Because that’s not what I consider the exercise or religion and i think it’s a little silly to say your religion means that someone else can’t do something.

Who is stopping them from going to another baker for their cake?

Sorry, but attending church isn't the limit of free exercise.
Someone else getting married isn’t an exercise of your religion.

That doesn't answer my question. Stop dodging.
Your question isn’t the point. Say there’s a dozen bakers. Say there’s one. Doesn’t matter. The practice of our religion isn’t baking a cake. If it is, time to get a new job.

Why is it time to get a new job? Why does not wanting to do one thing require them to give up their chosen profession?

And it does matter that the service can be obtained elsewhere, and that it's not really a Public Accommodation.

And we are not talking about practice, we are talking about free exercise.
Ah, so it’s a “you may drink from the the black people fountain” kind of stance you have.

That's your stance on social media. And a fountain is a public accommodation, it's not the same as a contracted service.

What is the damage done to the same sex couple having to go to another baker?
What if there isn’t another baker? It’s not relevant. Externalities don’t affect the issue.

Is a meal at a restaurant a public accommodation?

It is relevant, and as you stated as part of your twitter argument "make it yourself"

A restaurant is a PA because they invite the public onto their property as a part of the point of sale commerce transaction.
Because you’re claiming that people are silenced which is not true.

So a bakery doesn’t invite people into their property? A reservation isn’t a point of sale.

They are silenced by twitter.

These bakeries are not denying point of sale service to anyone, they just don't want to be contracted to provide a cake for a same sex marriage ceremony/reception because it goes against their religious beliefs.
If they have a place to speak, they are not silenced.

The bakery wouldn’t have sold them any cake intended for celebrating their same sex wedding. You’re attempting to make a distinction that is already irrelevant and not true.

Nah, they are just shunted into the dark so progs like you can claim your viewpoint is the popular one.

If they just walked in and bought a cake and then used it for whatever how would the bakery know? That's a point of sale transaction, not a contracted one for a ceremony they find morally wrong.
 
Sorry, but people like you think all right wing views are hatred and harrassment, don't deny it.
I do deny it. There’s many rational right wingers out there. Those people aren’t being kicked off social media.

But lots of irrational ones too just like yourself.

Bullshit.

What did Trump tweet that got him banned? Did Twitter even ever say?
You think Trump never acted like an asshole on Twitter? You going with that?

You aren't answering the question. Plenty of people act like assholes on twitter, they don't get banned.

What, besides "they felt like it" was the reason Trump was banned?
I didn’t ban Trump. Ask the people that did. Are you saying there wasn’t adequate reason to ban him based on his behavior?

And of course you wallow in others doing your dirty work for you.

I'm saying there are plenty of lefties still on twitter with blue checkmarks that did things far worse than Trump.

Again, what did Trump do to get banned?
Okay, so what? You want to force Twitter to allow all assholes to exist on their platform regardless of their behavior. Did I demand that a bakery serve people who act like assholes?

What does the bakery situation have to do with people acting like assholes? It has to do with free exercise overriding commerce in that one specific situation.

I want twitter to follow it's own TOS in a non partisan way.
The reason they’re not comparable is that you defend discrimination based on identity in one circumstance but demand equal treatment regardless of behavior in another.

It just so happens that gay people are harmed in once place and assholes you love are harmed in the other. You are on the wrong side.

And where in the Constitution does it clarify that free exercise is overwritten by either identity or behavior?

Having to get another baker is not being harmed. The whole water fountain thing wasn't about the water fountain, it was about the laws in place that MANDATED the fountains being separate, and the simple fact that in such a power unequal situation, the fountains would never be equal.

Allowing a few bakers to not contract for SSM wedding cakes does not create a system that discriminates as part of an overall process of disenfranchising a group of people, which is what Jim Crow was about.
 
The person enforcing their beliefs here, are teh liberals who want to force people to celebrate gay marriage.
Really? They forcing the baker to come to their wedding and toast champagne?


That would be the next step in the witch hunt. But you people need an offense to give you power over people.


So, if it is not baking a cake, it might very well be not attending.


Sounds crazy?

Go back in time 10 years and tell people about trans men competing in woman's sports. They would accuse you of the slippery slope fallacy and laugh at you.


Now, it's the law.
Well, then you don’t understand the issue.

No, he does, you intentionally ignore a person's constitutional right to free exercise because it doesn't fit your bigoted viewpoints.
Because that’s not what I consider the exercise or religion and i think it’s a little silly to say your religion means that someone else can’t do something.

Who is stopping them from going to another baker for their cake?

Sorry, but attending church isn't the limit of free exercise.
Someone else getting married isn’t an exercise of your religion.

That doesn't answer my question. Stop dodging.
Your question isn’t the point. Say there’s a dozen bakers. Say there’s one. Doesn’t matter. The practice of our religion isn’t baking a cake. If it is, time to get a new job.

Why is it time to get a new job? Why does not wanting to do one thing require them to give up their chosen profession?

And it does matter that the service can be obtained elsewhere, and that it's not really a Public Accommodation.

And we are not talking about practice, we are talking about free exercise.
Ah, so it’s a “you may drink from the the black people fountain” kind of stance you have.

That's your stance on social media. And a fountain is a public accommodation, it's not the same as a contracted service.

What is the damage done to the same sex couple having to go to another baker?
What if there isn’t another baker? It’s not relevant. Externalities don’t affect the issue.

Is a meal at a restaurant a public accommodation?

It is relevant, and as you stated as part of your twitter argument "make it yourself"

A restaurant is a PA because they invite the public onto their property as a part of the point of sale commerce transaction.
Because you’re claiming that people are silenced which is not true.

So a bakery doesn’t invite people into their property? A reservation isn’t a point of sale.

They are silenced by twitter.

These bakeries are not denying point of sale service to anyone, they just don't want to be contracted to provide a cake for a same sex marriage ceremony/reception because it goes against their religious beliefs.
If they have a place to speak, they are not silenced.

The bakery wouldn’t have sold them any cake intended for celebrating their same sex wedding. You’re attempting to make a distinction that is already irrelevant and not true.

Nah, they are just shunted into the dark so progs like you can claim your viewpoint is the popular one.

If they just walked in and bought a cake and then used it for whatever how would the bakery know? That's a point of sale transaction, not a contracted one for a ceremony they find morally wrong.
So not silenced. Great. You’re on your way to being less overly dramatic, snowflake.

If the baker would have known that they were purchasing a cake for their wedding, he would have denied them service. He said so to the customer’s mother (if I recall correctly). A policy of “don’t ask don’t tell” isn’t any better.

You’re splitting imaginary hairs, trying to squirm you way into making this okay.
 
Sorry, but people like you think all right wing views are hatred and harrassment, don't deny it.
I do deny it. There’s many rational right wingers out there. Those people aren’t being kicked off social media.

But lots of irrational ones too just like yourself.

Bullshit.

What did Trump tweet that got him banned? Did Twitter even ever say?
You think Trump never acted like an asshole on Twitter? You going with that?

You aren't answering the question. Plenty of people act like assholes on twitter, they don't get banned.

What, besides "they felt like it" was the reason Trump was banned?
I didn’t ban Trump. Ask the people that did. Are you saying there wasn’t adequate reason to ban him based on his behavior?

And of course you wallow in others doing your dirty work for you.

I'm saying there are plenty of lefties still on twitter with blue checkmarks that did things far worse than Trump.

Again, what did Trump do to get banned?
Okay, so what? You want to force Twitter to allow all assholes to exist on their platform regardless of their behavior. Did I demand that a bakery serve people who act like assholes?

What does the bakery situation have to do with people acting like assholes? It has to do with free exercise overriding commerce in that one specific situation.

I want twitter to follow it's own TOS in a non partisan way.
The reason they’re not comparable is that you defend discrimination based on identity in one circumstance but demand equal treatment regardless of behavior in another.

It just so happens that gay people are harmed in once place and assholes you love are harmed in the other. You are on the wrong side.

And where in the Constitution does it clarify that free exercise is overwritten by either identity or behavior?

Having to get another baker is not being harmed. The whole water fountain thing wasn't about the water fountain, it was about the laws in place that MANDATED the fountains being separate, and the simple fact that in such a power unequal situation, the fountains would never be equal.

Allowing a few bakers to not contract for SSM wedding cakes does not create a system that discriminates as part of an overall process of disenfranchising a group of people, which is what Jim Crow was about.
Of course it is. Being denied service is a harm. It may be justified or not, but it’s a harm.

The hell it was that the law mandated separation. Woolworth’s counter wasn’t segregated because of any law. If it was merely about laws, there’d have been no need for title 2 of the CRA.
 
The person enforcing their beliefs here, are teh liberals who want to force people to celebrate gay marriage.
Really? They forcing the baker to come to their wedding and toast champagne?


That would be the next step in the witch hunt. But you people need an offense to give you power over people.


So, if it is not baking a cake, it might very well be not attending.


Sounds crazy?

Go back in time 10 years and tell people about trans men competing in woman's sports. They would accuse you of the slippery slope fallacy and laugh at you.


Now, it's the law.
Well, then you don’t understand the issue.

No, he does, you intentionally ignore a person's constitutional right to free exercise because it doesn't fit your bigoted viewpoints.
Because that’s not what I consider the exercise or religion and i think it’s a little silly to say your religion means that someone else can’t do something.

Who is stopping them from going to another baker for their cake?

Sorry, but attending church isn't the limit of free exercise.
Someone else getting married isn’t an exercise of your religion.

That doesn't answer my question. Stop dodging.
Your question isn’t the point. Say there’s a dozen bakers. Say there’s one. Doesn’t matter. The practice of our religion isn’t baking a cake. If it is, time to get a new job.

Why is it time to get a new job? Why does not wanting to do one thing require them to give up their chosen profession?

And it does matter that the service can be obtained elsewhere, and that it's not really a Public Accommodation.

And we are not talking about practice, we are talking about free exercise.
Ah, so it’s a “you may drink from the the black people fountain” kind of stance you have.

That's your stance on social media. And a fountain is a public accommodation, it's not the same as a contracted service.

What is the damage done to the same sex couple having to go to another baker?
What if there isn’t another baker? It’s not relevant. Externalities don’t affect the issue.

Is a meal at a restaurant a public accommodation?

It is relevant, and as you stated as part of your twitter argument "make it yourself"

A restaurant is a PA because they invite the public onto their property as a part of the point of sale commerce transaction.
Because you’re claiming that people are silenced which is not true.

So a bakery doesn’t invite people into their property? A reservation isn’t a point of sale.

They are silenced by twitter.

These bakeries are not denying point of sale service to anyone, they just don't want to be contracted to provide a cake for a same sex marriage ceremony/reception because it goes against their religious beliefs.
If they have a place to speak, they are not silenced.

The bakery wouldn’t have sold them any cake intended for celebrating their same sex wedding. You’re attempting to make a distinction that is already irrelevant and not true.

Nah, they are just shunted into the dark so progs like you can claim your viewpoint is the popular one.

If they just walked in and bought a cake and then used it for whatever how would the bakery know? That's a point of sale transaction, not a contracted one for a ceremony they find morally wrong.
So not silenced. Great. You’re on your way to being less overly dramatic, snowflake.

If the baker would have known that they were purchasing a cake for their wedding, he would have denied them service. He said so to the customer’s mother (if I recall correctly). A policy of “don’t ask don’t tell” isn’t any better.

You’re splitting imaginary hairs, trying to squirm you way into making this okay.

They are silenced, on the major medium of public discussion.

And you are trying to make BAKE OR DIE Ok because you hate religious people.
 
They are silenced, on the major medium of public discussion.

And you are trying to make BAKE OR DIE Ok because you hate religious people.
Bake or die? Jesus, you know you can leave the hysterics for other snowflake, you don’t have to be so insane.

If a person has the ability to speak, they’re not silenced. By definition.

You still can’t talk about how you want some people protected despite their behavior but want others to be able to be discriminated against for there identity. You can’t talk about it because it’s not convenient to your fantasy.
 
In addition to the cop who died after having his skull crushed with a fire extinguisher, the injuries include brain, cracked ribs, smashed spinal discs, eye issues (one about to lose an eye) and one officer stabbed with a metal fence stake. To make matters worse, another one committed suicide yesterday. And yet, Republicans yet defend Donald and his murderous insurrectionist mob. Sad :confused:


Every post you make, full of lies.
 
Sorry, but people like you think all right wing views are hatred and harrassment, don't deny it.
I do deny it. There’s many rational right wingers out there. Those people aren’t being kicked off social media.

But lots of irrational ones too just like yourself.

Bullshit.

What did Trump tweet that got him banned? Did Twitter even ever say?
You think Trump never acted like an asshole on Twitter? You going with that?

You aren't answering the question. Plenty of people act like assholes on twitter, they don't get banned.

What, besides "they felt like it" was the reason Trump was banned?
I didn’t ban Trump. Ask the people that did. Are you saying there wasn’t adequate reason to ban him based on his behavior?

And of course you wallow in others doing your dirty work for you.

I'm saying there are plenty of lefties still on twitter with blue checkmarks that did things far worse than Trump.

Again, what did Trump do to get banned?
Okay, so what? You want to force Twitter to allow all assholes to exist on their platform regardless of their behavior. Did I demand that a bakery serve people who act like assholes?

What does the bakery situation have to do with people acting like assholes? It has to do with free exercise overriding commerce in that one specific situation.

I want twitter to follow it's own TOS in a non partisan way.
The reason they’re not comparable is that you defend discrimination based on identity in one circumstance but demand equal treatment regardless of behavior in another.

It just so happens that gay people are harmed in once place and assholes you love are harmed in the other. You are on the wrong side.

And where in the Constitution does it clarify that free exercise is overwritten by either identity or behavior?

Having to get another baker is not being harmed. The whole water fountain thing wasn't about the water fountain, it was about the laws in place that MANDATED the fountains being separate, and the simple fact that in such a power unequal situation, the fountains would never be equal.

Allowing a few bakers to not contract for SSM wedding cakes does not create a system that discriminates as part of an overall process of disenfranchising a group of people, which is what Jim Crow was about.
Of course it is. Being denied service is a harm. It may be justified or not, but it’s a harm.

The hell it was that the law mandated separation. Woolworth’s counter wasn’t segregated because of any law. If it was merely about laws, there’d have been no need for title 2 of the CRA.

It's not a harm, it's at most an inconvenience and hurt feelings. But making the baker choose between their religion and their livihood is OK because you hate religious people and can't understand them. Got it.

And you know the term is "Jim Crow Laws" right?
 
They are silenced, on the major medium of public discussion.

And you are trying to make BAKE OR DIE Ok because you hate religious people.
Bake or die? Jesus, you know you can leave the hysterics for other snowflake, you don’t have to be so insane.

If a person has the ability to speak, they’re not silenced. By definition.

You still can’t talk about how you want some people protected despite their behavior but want others to be able to be discriminated against for there identity. You can’t talk about it because it’s not convenient to your fantasy.

They got fined over $200k. You even said they should find another job. Bake or Die is apt.
 

Forum List

Back
Top