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Oh nooooooooooooooze! It's da Christians!
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Oh nooooooooooooooze! It's da Christians!
It's a hoax.Oh nooooooooooooooze! It's da Christians!
You haven't gotten over the Spanish Inquisition either?
I'm glad I'm not the only one.
It's a hoax.Oh nooooooooooooooze! It's da Christians!
You haven't gotten over the Spanish Inquisition either?
I'm glad I'm not the only one.
Oops, I think that might be hate speech somewhere in the EU.
It's a hoax.You haven't gotten over the Spanish Inquisition either?
I'm glad I'm not the only one.
Oops, I think that might be hate speech somewhere in the EU.
Racist!
Spaniards are people too.
It's a hoax.
Oops, I think that might be hate speech somewhere in the EU.
Racist!
Spaniards are people too.
Fuck foreigners.
Well, I did sleep at a Holiday Inn Express once.
You must be related to the BOOOOOOOOooooooOOOOOSH Family!!
How do you explain that the US is by majority Christian, yet you're sitting in your home an openly gay female and married? How did that happen to begin with?
If it was up to Christians in California I would not be happily married. The court in California intervened to overturn Proposition 8, legislation that was largely financed by LDS and RCC. The battle is on-going.
You're openly gay and married in this society, quit bitching about how you have it so bad and how your persecuted, it's bullshit. And it's a Christian society that gave you the freedom that you have to be who you are, you just can't seem to accept that fact because you've obviously been brain washed on the issue for years. Open your eyes.
If it was up to Christians in California I would not be happily married. The court in California intervened to overturn Proposition 8, legislation that was largely financed by LDS and RCC. The battle is on-going.
You're openly gay and married in this society, quit bitching about how you have it so bad and how your persecuted, it's bullshit. And it's a Christian society that gave you the freedom that you have to be who you are, you just can't seem to accept that fact because you've obviously been brain washed on the issue for years. Open your eyes.
It wasn't Christians who gave us anything. We won in court. If it was up to Christians we would have lost.
Prop 8 ban was LDS and RCC won.
You're openly gay and married in this society, quit bitching about how you have it so bad and how your persecuted, it's bullshit. And it's a Christian society that gave you the freedom that you have to be who you are, you just can't seem to accept that fact because you've obviously been brain washed on the issue for years. Open your eyes.
It wasn't Christians who gave us anything. We won in court. If it was up to Christians we would have lost.
Prop 8 ban was LDS and RCC won.
You're missing the point, and at this point I really don't think you're capable of understanding what I'm saying. This is a majority Christian nation founded by Christians and you have the freedom to be who and what you are without fear of persecution. To say that Christians haven't given you anything is denying reality.
It wasn't Christians who gave us anything. We won in court. If it was up to Christians we would have lost.
Prop 8 ban was LDS and RCC won.
You're missing the point, and at this point I really don't think you're capable of understanding what I'm saying. This is a majority Christian nation founded by Christians and you have the freedom to be who and what you are without fear of persecution. To say that Christians haven't given you anything is denying reality.
You're also missing the point. Prop 8 went down because LDS and RCC organized. In California that means your benevolent majority voted against us.
You're missing the point, and at this point I really don't think you're capable of understanding what I'm saying. This is a majority Christian nation founded by Christians and you have the freedom to be who and what you are without fear of persecution. To say that Christians haven't given you anything is denying reality.
You're also missing the point. Prop 8 went down because LDS and RCC organized. In California that means your benevolent majority voted against us.
Marriage it a touchy issue, I will concede that point, but the rest of what you post is pure bullshit with regards to making homosexuality illegal, turning this country into a christian theocrasy, etc... The only issue you have a point on is the marriage issue, and if the gay community would ask for a legal civil union, leaving marriage alone and up to the church, then I think you wouldn't find as much opposition. But, the gay community seems to be determined to have their way over the majority where marriage is concerned, and I'm not really sure why the gay community feels it should be the one to define what marriage is when they're a very small portion of the population? Why should you be able to change the meaning of something that's been consistant in society for thousands of years for 2 or 3 percent of the population?
You're also missing the point. Prop 8 went down because LDS and RCC organized. In California that means your benevolent majority voted against us.
Marriage it a touchy issue, I will concede that point, but the rest of what you post is pure bullshit with regards to making homosexuality illegal, turning this country into a christian theocrasy, etc... The only issue you have a point on is the marriage issue, and if the gay community would ask for a legal civil union, leaving marriage alone and up to the church, then I think you wouldn't find as much opposition. But, the gay community seems to be determined to have their way over the majority where marriage is concerned, and I'm not really sure why the gay community feels it should be the one to define what marriage is when they're a very small portion of the population? Why should you be able to change the meaning of something that's been consistant in society for thousands of years for 2 or 3 percent of the population?
Why should I have the right to marry? Because I've loved my partner as my wife for over 25 years.
If the Churches would stay out of civil law and stay in the domain of their Churches we would have no problem.
Marriage law needs to change. It's based on a model where men and women were not equal.
I would not care if I had a civil union as long as that was the same license issued to straight couple and we could enjoy the same rights and priveleges as anyone else.
There is a movement to make the US a Christian theocracy. Sarah Palin is a dominionist and she is in national politics.
I did not accuse Christians of starting threads to attack atheists. Please show me saying that exactly. I asked, more or less, why Christians are unable to leave atheists views alone, and why they feel challenged by them. If you believe in God, and they don't, that's all there is to it.An atheist started the thread. Your point?
The point is that you accused Christians of starting threads to attack atheists and it sure seemed that you meant this thread. That was not the case here.
Grump is generally a good person to have a discussion with. It seems he can communicate without resorting to some of the tactics of others on here. I generally enjoy reading his comments whereas there are other atheists on this board that quite frankly are not worth spending time reading let alone communicating with.
Immie
I did not accuse Christians of starting threads to attack atheists. Please show me saying that exactly. I asked, more or less, why Christians are unable to leave atheists views alone, and why they feel challenged by them. If you believe in God, and they don't, that's all there is to it.The point is that you accused Christians of starting threads to attack atheists and it sure seemed that you meant this thread. That was not the case here.
Grump is generally a good person to have a discussion with. It seems he can communicate without resorting to some of the tactics of others on here. I generally enjoy reading his comments whereas there are other atheists on this board that quite frankly are not worth spending time reading let alone communicating with.
Immie
probably for the same reason that atheists do the same to christians.
i find it amusing that people argue over a concept that is unprovable either way.
*shrug*
Marriage it a touchy issue, I will concede that point, but the rest of what you post is pure bullshit with regards to making homosexuality illegal, turning this country into a christian theocrasy, etc... The only issue you have a point on is the marriage issue, and if the gay community would ask for a legal civil union, leaving marriage alone and up to the church, then I think you wouldn't find as much opposition. But, the gay community seems to be determined to have their way over the majority where marriage is concerned, and I'm not really sure why the gay community feels it should be the one to define what marriage is when they're a very small portion of the population? Why should you be able to change the meaning of something that's been consistant in society for thousands of years for 2 or 3 percent of the population?
Why should I have the right to marry? Because I've loved my partner as my wife for over 25 years.
If the Churches would stay out of civil law and stay in the domain of their Churches we would have no problem.
Marriage law needs to change. It's based on a model where men and women were not equal.
I would not care if I had a civil union as long as that was the same license issued to straight couple and we could enjoy the same rights and priveleges as anyone else.
There is a movement to make the US a Christian theocracy. Sarah Palin is a dominionist and she is in national politics.
You ruin everything you said prior with the last comment. It's just nuts.
Why should I have the right to marry? Because I've loved my partner as my wife for over 25 years.
If the Churches would stay out of civil law and stay in the domain of their Churches we would have no problem.
Marriage law needs to change. It's based on a model where men and women were not equal.
I would not care if I had a civil union as long as that was the same license issued to straight couple and we could enjoy the same rights and priveleges as anyone else.
There is a movement to make the US a Christian theocracy. Sarah Palin is a dominionist and she is in national politics.
You ruin everything you said prior with the last comment. It's just nuts.
That's interesting. You can't take my first sentences as truth because I recognize Palin as a dominionist? How much do you know about her Church? Joel's Army?
How do you explain that the US is by majority Christian, yet you're sitting in your home an openly gay female and married? How did that happen to begin with?
If it was up to Christians in California I would not be happily married. The court in California intervened to overturn Proposition 8, legislation that was largely financed by LDS and RCC. The battle is on-going.
You're openly gay and married in this society, quit bitching about how you have it so bad and how your persecuted, it's bullshit. And it's a Christian society that gave you the freedom that you have to be who you are, you just can't seem to accept that fact because you've obviously been brain washed on the issue for years. Open your eyes.
You ruin everything you said prior with the last comment. It's just nuts.
That's interesting. You can't take my first sentences as truth because I recognize Palin as a dominionist? How much do you know about her Church? Joel's Army?
I didn't say that. You have a very, very bad habit of taking people's words and changing them to suit your own purposes. Whatever works for you I guess. The U.S. is not now, or ever going to become a Christian theocrasy. End of story.