Amazombies living in the woods

[Bleipriester]

Unbelievable what that companies does! Read that stuff and you won´t buy anything from them anymore!

Workers´s homes - The new world order of employment

"Where the Amazombies sleep: Tented woods near Amazon's massive distribution centre is 'lived in by Christmas worker elves' who are barely paid the minimum wage to work blistering 12-hour shifts with timed toilet breaks"

Amazon workers spotted 'living in tents' near Dunfermline site | Daily Mail Online

 

[Andylusion]

Unbelievable what that companies does! Read that stuff and you won´t buy anything from them anymore!

Workers´s homes - The new world order of employment

"Where the Amazombies sleep: Tented woods near Amazon's massive distribution centre is 'lived in by Christmas worker elves' who are barely paid the minimum wage to work blistering 12-hour shifts with timed toilet breaks"

Amazon workers spotted 'living in tents' near Dunfermline site | Daily Mail Online

Amazon will fix this, but not the way you think.

They'll simply reduce the number of seasonal workers. Amazon can't pay people tons of money to work short term seasonal work. No company can. The idea you are going to get a temporary job, that pays $20 an hour is crazy.

The UK has minimum wage laws, and Amazon is following the laws. They have done nothing wrong.

What you people fail to realize is that the whole reason for this is entirely different.

The UK has a massive housing crisis. It's been on-going for years now. The rent control laws in the UK, has prevented any investment into building new homes. No one is going to invest millions into making new apartments, when they can't charge enough money to make a profit.

So they simply don't make new apartments and homes.

Additionally, the UK has tons of 'green-space' laws, which prevent people from building new homes.

Lastly, the UK has had in the last few years, had a massive influx of immigrants. These migrants have no money to buy a home, and little money to rent a home, assuming they could even find a place to rent, which many can't.

The real reason that a massive 3 people.... just 3 people..... have been staying in tents, is because they simply can't find a place to live.

The government laws and regulations, have turned a shortage of housing, into a full blown country wide crisis.

This is the problem. Not Amazon. Of course the left-wing media, and pundits, are in full on 'attack amazon' mode. Because digging into the problem and learning the real reason, takes time and intelligence. Both of which the left-wing has a deficiency of.

 

[Bleipriester]

Unbelievable what that companies does! Read that stuff and you won´t buy anything from them anymore!

Workers´s homes - The new world order of employment

"Where the Amazombies sleep: Tented woods near Amazon's massive distribution centre is 'lived in by Christmas worker elves' who are barely paid the minimum wage to work blistering 12-hour shifts with timed toilet breaks"

Amazon workers spotted 'living in tents' near Dunfermline site | Daily Mail Online

Amazon will fix this, but not the way you think.

They'll simply reduce the number of seasonal workers. Amazon can't pay people tons of money to work short term seasonal work. No company can. The idea you are going to get a temporary job, that pays $20 an hour is crazy.

The UK has minimum wage laws, and Amazon is following the laws. They have done nothing wrong.

What you people fail to realize is that the whole reason for this is entirely different.

The UK has a massive housing crisis. It's been on-going for years now. The rent control laws in the UK, has prevented any investment into building new homes. No one is going to invest millions into making new apartments, when they can't charge enough money to make a profit.

So they simply don't make new apartments and homes.

Additionally, the UK has tons of 'green-space' laws, which prevent people from building new homes.

Lastly, the UK has had in the last few years, had a massive influx of immigrants. These migrants have no money to buy a home, and little money to rent a home, assuming they could even find a place to rent, which many can't.

The real reason that a massive 3 people.... just 3 people..... have been staying in tents, is because they simply can't find a place to live.

The government laws and regulations, have turned a shortage of housing, into a full blown country wide crisis.

This is the problem. Not Amazon. Of course the left-wing media, and pundits, are in full on 'attack amazon' mode. Because digging into the problem and learning the real reason, takes time and intelligence. Both of which the left-wing has a deficiency of.

No, the reason is in the article: Insufficient wage makes the traveling to expensive.

 

[Andylusion]

Unbelievable what that companies does! Read that stuff and you won´t buy anything from them anymore!

Workers´s homes - The new world order of employment

"Where the Amazombies sleep: Tented woods near Amazon's massive distribution centre is 'lived in by Christmas worker elves' who are barely paid the minimum wage to work blistering 12-hour shifts with timed toilet breaks"

Amazon workers spotted 'living in tents' near Dunfermline site | Daily Mail Online

Amazon will fix this, but not the way you think.

They'll simply reduce the number of seasonal workers. Amazon can't pay people tons of money to work short term seasonal work. No company can. The idea you are going to get a temporary job, that pays $20 an hour is crazy.

The UK has minimum wage laws, and Amazon is following the laws. They have done nothing wrong.

What you people fail to realize is that the whole reason for this is entirely different.

The UK has a massive housing crisis. It's been on-going for years now. The rent control laws in the UK, has prevented any investment into building new homes. No one is going to invest millions into making new apartments, when they can't charge enough money to make a profit.

So they simply don't make new apartments and homes.

Additionally, the UK has tons of 'green-space' laws, which prevent people from building new homes.

Lastly, the UK has had in the last few years, had a massive influx of immigrants. These migrants have no money to buy a home, and little money to rent a home, assuming they could even find a place to rent, which many can't.

The real reason that a massive 3 people.... just 3 people..... have been staying in tents, is because they simply can't find a place to live.

The government laws and regulations, have turned a shortage of housing, into a full blown country wide crisis.

This is the problem. Not Amazon. Of course the left-wing media, and pundits, are in full on 'attack amazon' mode. Because digging into the problem and learning the real reason, takes time and intelligence. Both of which the left-wing has a deficiency of.

No, the reason is in the article: Insufficient wage makes the traveling to expensive.

This is one of the differences between the right-wing, and the left-wing. You take the article at face value, assume it's divine truth, and question nothing.

Does the article prove that to be the case? Did they study the reasons behind it?

For example, one of the things I learned by reading various reports on the housing crisis, is that housing is often built far away from where people work. Making massive commutes a huge problem.

Second, they have massive government taxes on gasoline. Right now I pay $2 a gallon. In the UK, they pay $5.50 a gallon for gas, making is hideously expensive to commute.

The UK minimum wage, is about the same as here, but since they can't afford gas, it's harder to commute. But they have free health care.... while living in tents.

Additionally, they have massive mass transit system. Which is one of the reason the petrol tax is so high. But instead of making life better, it apparently it just makes people poor, and live in tents.

So again... if you want to just have a 5-year-old level understanding, and just blindly accept what people wrote in the article. Fine.

But the rest of us are looking at the policies and taxes that have caused the problems.

 

[yiostheoy]

Unbelievable what that companies does! Read that stuff and you won´t buy anything from them anymore!

Workers´s homes - The new world order of employment

"Where the Amazombies sleep: Tented woods near Amazon's massive distribution centre is 'lived in by Christmas worker elves' who are barely paid the minimum wage to work blistering 12-hour shifts with timed toilet breaks"

Amazon workers spotted 'living in tents' near Dunfermline site | Daily Mail Online

This also reminds me of Walmart.

 

[Moonglow]

Unbelievable what that companies does! Read that stuff and you won´t buy anything from them anymore!

Workers´s homes - The new world order of employment

"Where the Amazombies sleep: Tented woods near Amazon's massive distribution centre is 'lived in by Christmas worker elves' who are barely paid the minimum wage to work blistering 12-hour shifts with timed toilet breaks"

Amazon workers spotted 'living in tents' near Dunfermline site | Daily Mail Online

This also reminds me of Walmart.

Don't worry, we did it in the Army also..

 

[yiostheoy]

Unbelievable what that companies does! Read that stuff and you won´t buy anything from them anymore!

Workers´s homes - The new world order of employment

"Where the Amazombies sleep: Tented woods near Amazon's massive distribution centre is 'lived in by Christmas worker elves' who are barely paid the minimum wage to work blistering 12-hour shifts with timed toilet breaks"

Amazon workers spotted 'living in tents' near Dunfermline site | Daily Mail Online

This also reminds me of Walmart.

Don't worry, we did it in the Army also..

I remember boot camp too.

And also serving in the infantry.

I could do it again if I had to.

And I still save water by taking sponge baths in the sink.

 

[Moonglow]

Unbelievable what that companies does! Read that stuff and you won´t buy anything from them anymore!

Workers´s homes - The new world order of employment

"Where the Amazombies sleep: Tented woods near Amazon's massive distribution centre is 'lived in by Christmas worker elves' who are barely paid the minimum wage to work blistering 12-hour shifts with timed toilet breaks"

Amazon workers spotted 'living in tents' near Dunfermline site | Daily Mail Online

This also reminds me of Walmart.

Don't worry, we did it in the Army also..

I remember boot camp too.

And also serving in the infantry.

I could do it again if I had to.

And I still save water by taking sponge baths in the sink.

 

[Bleipriester]

Unbelievable what that companies does! Read that stuff and you won´t buy anything from them anymore!

Workers´s homes - The new world order of employment

"Where the Amazombies sleep: Tented woods near Amazon's massive distribution centre is 'lived in by Christmas worker elves' who are barely paid the minimum wage to work blistering 12-hour shifts with timed toilet breaks"

Amazon workers spotted 'living in tents' near Dunfermline site | Daily Mail Online

Amazon will fix this, but not the way you think.

They'll simply reduce the number of seasonal workers. Amazon can't pay people tons of money to work short term seasonal work. No company can. The idea you are going to get a temporary job, that pays $20 an hour is crazy.

The UK has minimum wage laws, and Amazon is following the laws. They have done nothing wrong.

What you people fail to realize is that the whole reason for this is entirely different.

The UK has a massive housing crisis. It's been on-going for years now. The rent control laws in the UK, has prevented any investment into building new homes. No one is going to invest millions into making new apartments, when they can't charge enough money to make a profit.

So they simply don't make new apartments and homes.

Additionally, the UK has tons of 'green-space' laws, which prevent people from building new homes.

Lastly, the UK has had in the last few years, had a massive influx of immigrants. These migrants have no money to buy a home, and little money to rent a home, assuming they could even find a place to rent, which many can't.

The real reason that a massive 3 people.... just 3 people..... have been staying in tents, is because they simply can't find a place to live.

The government laws and regulations, have turned a shortage of housing, into a full blown country wide crisis.

This is the problem. Not Amazon. Of course the left-wing media, and pundits, are in full on 'attack amazon' mode. Because digging into the problem and learning the real reason, takes time and intelligence. Both of which the left-wing has a deficiency of.

No, the reason is in the article: Insufficient wage makes the traveling to expensive.

This is one of the differences between the right-wing, and the left-wing. You take the article at face value, assume it's divine truth, and question nothing.

Does the article prove that to be the case? Did they study the reasons behind it?

For example, one of the things I learned by reading various reports on the housing crisis, is that housing is often built far away from where people work. Making massive commutes a huge problem.

Second, they have massive government taxes on gasoline. Right now I pay $2 a gallon. In the UK, they pay $5.50 a gallon for gas, making is hideously expensive to commute.

The UK minimum wage, is about the same as here, but since they can't afford gas, it's harder to commute. But they have free health care.... while living in tents.

Additionally, they have massive mass transit system. Which is one of the reason the petrol tax is so high. But instead of making life better, it apparently it just makes people poor, and live in tents.

So again... if you want to just have a 5-year-old level understanding, and just blindly accept what people wrote in the article. Fine.

But the rest of us are looking at the policies and taxes that have caused the problems.

Amazon is also in my country criticized and regularly strike-bound. It is an exploiting company. And I don´t know what that has to do with right- or left-wing.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

Unbelievable what that companies does! Read that stuff and you won´t buy anything from them anymore!

Workers´s homes - The new world order of employment

"Where the Amazombies sleep: Tented woods near Amazon's massive distribution centre is 'lived in by Christmas worker elves' who are barely paid the minimum wage to work blistering 12-hour shifts with timed toilet breaks"

Amazon workers spotted 'living in tents' near Dunfermline site | Daily Mail Online

Amazon will fix this, but not the way you think.

They'll simply reduce the number of seasonal workers. Amazon can't pay people tons of money to work short term seasonal work. No company can. The idea you are going to get a temporary job, that pays $20 an hour is crazy.

The UK has minimum wage laws, and Amazon is following the laws. They have done nothing wrong.

What you people fail to realize is that the whole reason for this is entirely different.

The UK has a massive housing crisis. It's been on-going for years now. The rent control laws in the UK, has prevented any investment into building new homes. No one is going to invest millions into making new apartments, when they can't charge enough money to make a profit.

So they simply don't make new apartments and homes.

Additionally, the UK has tons of 'green-space' laws, which prevent people from building new homes.

Lastly, the UK has had in the last few years, had a massive influx of immigrants. These migrants have no money to buy a home, and little money to rent a home, assuming they could even find a place to rent, which many can't.

The real reason that a massive 3 people.... just 3 people..... have been staying in tents, is because they simply can't find a place to live.

The government laws and regulations, have turned a shortage of housing, into a full blown country wide crisis.

This is the problem. Not Amazon. Of course the left-wing media, and pundits, are in full on 'attack amazon' mode. Because digging into the problem and learning the real reason, takes time and intelligence. Both of which the left-wing has a deficiency of.

No, the reason is in the article: Insufficient wage makes the traveling to expensive.

This is one of the differences between the right-wing, and the left-wing. You take the article at face value, assume it's divine truth, and question nothing.

Does the article prove that to be the case? Did they study the reasons behind it?

For example, one of the things I learned by reading various reports on the housing crisis, is that housing is often built far away from where people work. Making massive commutes a huge problem.

Second, they have massive government taxes on gasoline. Right now I pay $2 a gallon. In the UK, they pay $5.50 a gallon for gas, making is hideously expensive to commute.

The UK minimum wage, is about the same as here, but since they can't afford gas, it's harder to commute. But they have free health care.... while living in tents.

Additionally, they have massive mass transit system. Which is one of the reason the petrol tax is so high. But instead of making life better, it apparently it just makes people poor, and live in tents.

So again... if you want to just have a 5-year-old level understanding, and just blindly accept what people wrote in the article. Fine.

But the rest of us are looking at the policies and taxes that have caused the problems.

A key factor you have missed out is that benefits sanctions penalise people who do not take a job. This is intended to shift the lazy but a side effect is that people are often forced to take work that is totally unsuitable.
Obviously these people do not live locally and their accommodation issues will be compounded because they will be on a short term and zero hours contract on the minimum wage. They are literally between a rock and a hard place.
There has been a lot of attention on Amazon in the uk recently. Their tax affairs and employment practices have come under scrutiny and they are a deep cancer in our society.
I will not give them a penny of my money and a lot of people feel the same. Not enough though.

 

[Andylusion]

Unbelievable what that companies does! Read that stuff and you won´t buy anything from them anymore!

Workers´s homes - The new world order of employment

"Where the Amazombies sleep: Tented woods near Amazon's massive distribution centre is 'lived in by Christmas worker elves' who are barely paid the minimum wage to work blistering 12-hour shifts with timed toilet breaks"

Amazon workers spotted 'living in tents' near Dunfermline site | Daily Mail Online

Amazon will fix this, but not the way you think.

They'll simply reduce the number of seasonal workers. Amazon can't pay people tons of money to work short term seasonal work. No company can. The idea you are going to get a temporary job, that pays $20 an hour is crazy.

The UK has minimum wage laws, and Amazon is following the laws. They have done nothing wrong.

What you people fail to realize is that the whole reason for this is entirely different.

The UK has a massive housing crisis. It's been on-going for years now. The rent control laws in the UK, has prevented any investment into building new homes. No one is going to invest millions into making new apartments, when they can't charge enough money to make a profit.

So they simply don't make new apartments and homes.

Additionally, the UK has tons of 'green-space' laws, which prevent people from building new homes.

Lastly, the UK has had in the last few years, had a massive influx of immigrants. These migrants have no money to buy a home, and little money to rent a home, assuming they could even find a place to rent, which many can't.

The real reason that a massive 3 people.... just 3 people..... have been staying in tents, is because they simply can't find a place to live.

The government laws and regulations, have turned a shortage of housing, into a full blown country wide crisis.

This is the problem. Not Amazon. Of course the left-wing media, and pundits, are in full on 'attack amazon' mode. Because digging into the problem and learning the real reason, takes time and intelligence. Both of which the left-wing has a deficiency of.

No, the reason is in the article: Insufficient wage makes the traveling to expensive.

This is one of the differences between the right-wing, and the left-wing. You take the article at face value, assume it's divine truth, and question nothing.

Does the article prove that to be the case? Did they study the reasons behind it?

For example, one of the things I learned by reading various reports on the housing crisis, is that housing is often built far away from where people work. Making massive commutes a huge problem.

Second, they have massive government taxes on gasoline. Right now I pay $2 a gallon. In the UK, they pay $5.50 a gallon for gas, making is hideously expensive to commute.

The UK minimum wage, is about the same as here, but since they can't afford gas, it's harder to commute. But they have free health care.... while living in tents.

Additionally, they have massive mass transit system. Which is one of the reason the petrol tax is so high. But instead of making life better, it apparently it just makes people poor, and live in tents.

So again... if you want to just have a 5-year-old level understanding, and just blindly accept what people wrote in the article. Fine.

But the rest of us are looking at the policies and taxes that have caused the problems.

A key factor you have missed out is that benefits sanctions penalise people who do not take a job. This is intended to shift the lazy but a side effect is that people are often forced to take work that is totally unsuitable.
Obviously these people do not live locally and their accommodation issues will be compounded because they will be on a short term and zero hours contract on the minimum wage. They are literally between a rock and a hard place.
There has been a lot of attention on Amazon in the uk recently. Their tax affairs and employment practices have come under scrutiny and they are a deep cancer in our society.
I will not give them a penny of my money and a lot of people feel the same. Not enough though.

That factor really doesn't bother me as much, because you have to look at the counter factual....

If Amazon didn't exist, and there were no jobs at all.... are you telling me they and the country would be better off?

They are unemployed, and now have no jobs at all..... Would they be starving to death? Or would they be sitting on their butts watching TV, and having the tax paying working people pay for their food and housing?

How is this a win?

Some people want to look at issues like this from a Utopian perspective. If we make this new law that requires companies pay more, then everything will be wonderful and fantastic.

I look at it from a reality perspective.

Companies do not operate in places, unless they can operate profitably. It's a fact.

The primary reason why all the manufacturing jobs moved out of the US in decades past, is because due to regulations, Unions, laws, taxes, and so on, drove up the cost of doing business and forced jobs out of the country.

The whole reason manufacturing is coming back to the US, is because automation has allowed the replacement of jobs for machines, and reduced the cost of doing business.

This idea that somehow you can force companies to pay more, and still create jobs, is simply not true. ANd if you force up the cost of doing business in the UK, then you will not create high paying jobs for low-skill workers... you'll just not have any jobs.

So the question is, would your country really be better off if there were no jobs at all for low-skilled workers?

I think not.

The other problem is, I am always skeptical of these claims that such and such, large company pays nothing, and is exploitative.

The article mentioned Amazon, and someone else mentioned Walmart.

Here in Columbus Ohio, the wage for a Warehouse Worker, is $13/hour.

Now the company I work for right now, you earn $10. If you get hired on full time, you get $11.

I worked at another company where the warehouse staff was paid $9.50.

So why do you people, and all the media, not complain about the warehouses paying $9 to $10, but you scream and yell about Amazon paying $13? Why? Because Amazon is big. The other companies are relatively small in comparison.

Similarly, when you compare wages at Welmart to the other grocery stores, Walmart is far better. Starting wage for a Cashier is $9 to $10 an hour. You go to Meijer, or Giant Eagle, it's $8. You go to some of the smaller changes, they start you of at $7.25 until 7 months, and then you get $7.35, and a whooping 10¢ raise every 7 months.

Do you hear anyone screaming about those companies? Of course not. Because they are not massive like Walmart.

This is the irony of the left-wing. They attack the best options the poor have to gain employment, and promote the worst options.

All these smaller companies the left-wing praises. How many times have they attacked the mega-corps and promoted the small business?

But the mega-corps have the best wages and benefits to low-skill employees. Small companies often have the worst. I was interviewed for a job, where they had zero benefits. Not even 1 week paid vacation. And the wage was $9 to start. But no one screams about a small company with a dozen employees.

No, you want to scream about Amazon and Walmart where they offer 2 weeks paid vacation, and health care, and 401K, and company stock, and start you off at $13 an hour.

Now obviously, I know more about the US market, than the UK market, but I wager it's the same there.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

Unbelievable what that companies does! Read that stuff and you won´t buy anything from them anymore!

Workers´s homes - The new world order of employment

"Where the Amazombies sleep: Tented woods near Amazon's massive distribution centre is 'lived in by Christmas worker elves' who are barely paid the minimum wage to work blistering 12-hour shifts with timed toilet breaks"

Amazon workers spotted 'living in tents' near Dunfermline site | Daily Mail Online

Amazon will fix this, but not the way you think.

They'll simply reduce the number of seasonal workers. Amazon can't pay people tons of money to work short term seasonal work. No company can. The idea you are going to get a temporary job, that pays $20 an hour is crazy.

The UK has minimum wage laws, and Amazon is following the laws. They have done nothing wrong.

What you people fail to realize is that the whole reason for this is entirely different.

The UK has a massive housing crisis. It's been on-going for years now. The rent control laws in the UK, has prevented any investment into building new homes. No one is going to invest millions into making new apartments, when they can't charge enough money to make a profit.

So they simply don't make new apartments and homes.

Additionally, the UK has tons of 'green-space' laws, which prevent people from building new homes.

Lastly, the UK has had in the last few years, had a massive influx of immigrants. These migrants have no money to buy a home, and little money to rent a home, assuming they could even find a place to rent, which many can't.

The real reason that a massive 3 people.... just 3 people..... have been staying in tents, is because they simply can't find a place to live.

The government laws and regulations, have turned a shortage of housing, into a full blown country wide crisis.

This is the problem. Not Amazon. Of course the left-wing media, and pundits, are in full on 'attack amazon' mode. Because digging into the problem and learning the real reason, takes time and intelligence. Both of which the left-wing has a deficiency of.

No, the reason is in the article: Insufficient wage makes the traveling to expensive.

This is one of the differences between the right-wing, and the left-wing. You take the article at face value, assume it's divine truth, and question nothing.

Does the article prove that to be the case? Did they study the reasons behind it?

For example, one of the things I learned by reading various reports on the housing crisis, is that housing is often built far away from where people work. Making massive commutes a huge problem.

Second, they have massive government taxes on gasoline. Right now I pay $2 a gallon. In the UK, they pay $5.50 a gallon for gas, making is hideously expensive to commute.

The UK minimum wage, is about the same as here, but since they can't afford gas, it's harder to commute. But they have free health care.... while living in tents.

Additionally, they have massive mass transit system. Which is one of the reason the petrol tax is so high. But instead of making life better, it apparently it just makes people poor, and live in tents.

So again... if you want to just have a 5-year-old level understanding, and just blindly accept what people wrote in the article. Fine.

But the rest of us are looking at the policies and taxes that have caused the problems.

A key factor you have missed out is that benefits sanctions penalise people who do not take a job. This is intended to shift the lazy but a side effect is that people are often forced to take work that is totally unsuitable.
Obviously these people do not live locally and their accommodation issues will be compounded because they will be on a short term and zero hours contract on the minimum wage. They are literally between a rock and a hard place.
There has been a lot of attention on Amazon in the uk recently. Their tax affairs and employment practices have come under scrutiny and they are a deep cancer in our society.
I will not give them a penny of my money and a lot of people feel the same. Not enough though.

That factor really doesn't bother me as much, because you have to look at the counter factual....

If Amazon didn't exist, and there were no jobs at all.... are you telling me they and the country would be better off?

They are unemployed, and now have no jobs at all..... Would they be starving to death? Or would they be sitting on their butts watching TV, and having the tax paying working people pay for their food and housing?

How is this a win?

Some people want to look at issues like this from a Utopian perspective. If we make this new law that requires companies pay more, then everything will be wonderful and fantastic.

I look at it from a reality perspective.

Companies do not operate in places, unless they can operate profitably. It's a fact.

The primary reason why all the manufacturing jobs moved out of the US in decades past, is because due to regulations, Unions, laws, taxes, and so on, drove up the cost of doing business and forced jobs out of the country.

The whole reason manufacturing is coming back to the US, is because automation has allowed the replacement of jobs for machines, and reduced the cost of doing business.

This idea that somehow you can force companies to pay more, and still create jobs, is simply not true. ANd if you force up the cost of doing business in the UK, then you will not create high paying jobs for low-skill workers... you'll just not have any jobs.

So the question is, would your country really be better off if there were no jobs at all for low-skilled workers?

I think not.

The other problem is, I am always skeptical of these claims that such and such, large company pays nothing, and is exploitative.

The article mentioned Amazon, and someone else mentioned Walmart.

Here in Columbus Ohio, the wage for a Warehouse Worker, is $13/hour.

Now the company I work for right now, you earn $10. If you get hired on full time, you get $11.

I worked at another company where the warehouse staff was paid $9.50.

So why do you people, and all the media, not complain about the warehouses paying $9 to $10, but you scream and yell about Amazon paying $13? Why? Because Amazon is big. The other companies are relatively small in comparison.

Similarly, when you compare wages at Welmart to the other grocery stores, Walmart is far better. Starting wage for a Cashier is $9 to $10 an hour. You go to Meijer, or Giant Eagle, it's $8. You go to some of the smaller changes, they start you of at $7.25 until 7 months, and then you get $7.35, and a whooping 10¢ raise every 7 months.

Do you hear anyone screaming about those companies? Of course not. Because they are not massive like Walmart.

This is the irony of the left-wing. They attack the best options the poor have to gain employment, and promote the worst options.

All these smaller companies the left-wing praises. How many times have they attacked the mega-corps and promoted the small business?

But the mega-corps have the best wages and benefits to low-skill employees. Small companies often have the worst. I was interviewed for a job, where they had zero benefits. Not even 1 week paid vacation. And the wage was $9 to start. But no one screams about a small company with a dozen employees.

No, you want to scream about Amazon and Walmart where they offer 2 weeks paid vacation, and health care, and 401K, and company stock, and start you off at $13 an hour.

Now obviously, I know more about the US market, than the UK market, but I wager it's the same there.

I cant see where walmart are mentioned in the article. They trade as Asda over here and are no better or worse than any other retailer, and of course they dont sell guns.
To respond to your other point I would argue that amazons business practises have destroyed thousands of small businesses in the UK.
To do that they have used their financial muscle and competitive edge gained from tax dodging.
They are a cancer on the high street.

 

[Phoenall]

Unbelievable what that companies does! Read that stuff and you won´t buy anything from them anymore!

Workers´s homes - The new world order of employment

"Where the Amazombies sleep: Tented woods near Amazon's massive distribution centre is 'lived in by Christmas worker elves' who are barely paid the minimum wage to work blistering 12-hour shifts with timed toilet breaks"

Amazon workers spotted 'living in tents' near Dunfermline site | Daily Mail Online

Amazon will fix this, but not the way you think.

They'll simply reduce the number of seasonal workers. Amazon can't pay people tons of money to work short term seasonal work. No company can. The idea you are going to get a temporary job, that pays $20 an hour is crazy.

The UK has minimum wage laws, and Amazon is following the laws. They have done nothing wrong.

What you people fail to realize is that the whole reason for this is entirely different.

The UK has a massive housing crisis. It's been on-going for years now. The rent control laws in the UK, has prevented any investment into building new homes. No one is going to invest millions into making new apartments, when they can't charge enough money to make a profit.

So they simply don't make new apartments and homes.

Additionally, the UK has tons of 'green-space' laws, which prevent people from building new homes.

Lastly, the UK has had in the last few years, had a massive influx of immigrants. These migrants have no money to buy a home, and little money to rent a home, assuming they could even find a place to rent, which many can't.

The real reason that a massive 3 people.... just 3 people..... have been staying in tents, is because they simply can't find a place to live.

The government laws and regulations, have turned a shortage of housing, into a full blown country wide crisis.

This is the problem. Not Amazon. Of course the left-wing media, and pundits, are in full on 'attack amazon' mode. Because digging into the problem and learning the real reason, takes time and intelligence. Both of which the left-wing has a deficiency of.

No, the reason is in the article: Insufficient wage makes the traveling to expensive.

Due to immigrants taking all the available housing pushing up prices for everyone else. Then the immigrants working outside the law driving down wages so that everyone suffers low wages

 

[Phoenall]

Unbelievable what that companies does! Read that stuff and you won´t buy anything from them anymore!

Workers´s homes - The new world order of employment

"Where the Amazombies sleep: Tented woods near Amazon's massive distribution centre is 'lived in by Christmas worker elves' who are barely paid the minimum wage to work blistering 12-hour shifts with timed toilet breaks"

Amazon workers spotted 'living in tents' near Dunfermline site | Daily Mail Online

Amazon will fix this, but not the way you think.

They'll simply reduce the number of seasonal workers. Amazon can't pay people tons of money to work short term seasonal work. No company can. The idea you are going to get a temporary job, that pays $20 an hour is crazy.

The UK has minimum wage laws, and Amazon is following the laws. They have done nothing wrong.

What you people fail to realize is that the whole reason for this is entirely different.

The UK has a massive housing crisis. It's been on-going for years now. The rent control laws in the UK, has prevented any investment into building new homes. No one is going to invest millions into making new apartments, when they can't charge enough money to make a profit.

So they simply don't make new apartments and homes.

Additionally, the UK has tons of 'green-space' laws, which prevent people from building new homes.

Lastly, the UK has had in the last few years, had a massive influx of immigrants. These migrants have no money to buy a home, and little money to rent a home, assuming they could even find a place to rent, which many can't.

The real reason that a massive 3 people.... just 3 people..... have been staying in tents, is because they simply can't find a place to live.

The government laws and regulations, have turned a shortage of housing, into a full blown country wide crisis.

This is the problem. Not Amazon. Of course the left-wing media, and pundits, are in full on 'attack amazon' mode. Because digging into the problem and learning the real reason, takes time and intelligence. Both of which the left-wing has a deficiency of.

No, the reason is in the article: Insufficient wage makes the traveling to expensive.

This is one of the differences between the right-wing, and the left-wing. You take the article at face value, assume it's divine truth, and question nothing.

Does the article prove that to be the case? Did they study the reasons behind it?

For example, one of the things I learned by reading various reports on the housing crisis, is that housing is often built far away from where people work. Making massive commutes a huge problem.

Second, they have massive government taxes on gasoline. Right now I pay $2 a gallon. In the UK, they pay $5.50 a gallon for gas, making is hideously expensive to commute.

The UK minimum wage, is about the same as here, but since they can't afford gas, it's harder to commute. But they have free health care.... while living in tents.

Additionally, they have massive mass transit system. Which is one of the reason the petrol tax is so high. But instead of making life better, it apparently it just makes people poor, and live in tents.

So again... if you want to just have a 5-year-old level understanding, and just blindly accept what people wrote in the article. Fine.

But the rest of us are looking at the policies and taxes that have caused the problems.

Many companies set up shop in London where the cost's are prohibitive and so the charge more. The savvy companies have a mail drop in London and an office in the other major cities where it is cheaper than London. Means no commute as housing is available in the suburbs at a lesser cost, the wages wont be as high but then neither are the overheads. The UK minimum wage is enough to live on as long as you dont get extravagant and expect 3 overseas holidays a year, a new BMW in the drive and the latest 48inch Plasma screen.
Take the American taxes as a whole and you are paying much more than we are out of your disposable income

 

[Bleipriester]

Unbelievable what that companies does! Read that stuff and you won´t buy anything from them anymore!

Workers´s homes - The new world order of employment

"Where the Amazombies sleep: Tented woods near Amazon's massive distribution centre is 'lived in by Christmas worker elves' who are barely paid the minimum wage to work blistering 12-hour shifts with timed toilet breaks"

Amazon workers spotted 'living in tents' near Dunfermline site | Daily Mail Online

Amazon will fix this, but not the way you think.

They'll simply reduce the number of seasonal workers. Amazon can't pay people tons of money to work short term seasonal work. No company can. The idea you are going to get a temporary job, that pays $20 an hour is crazy.

The UK has minimum wage laws, and Amazon is following the laws. They have done nothing wrong.

What you people fail to realize is that the whole reason for this is entirely different.

The UK has a massive housing crisis. It's been on-going for years now. The rent control laws in the UK, has prevented any investment into building new homes. No one is going to invest millions into making new apartments, when they can't charge enough money to make a profit.

So they simply don't make new apartments and homes.

Additionally, the UK has tons of 'green-space' laws, which prevent people from building new homes.

Lastly, the UK has had in the last few years, had a massive influx of immigrants. These migrants have no money to buy a home, and little money to rent a home, assuming they could even find a place to rent, which many can't.

The real reason that a massive 3 people.... just 3 people..... have been staying in tents, is because they simply can't find a place to live.

The government laws and regulations, have turned a shortage of housing, into a full blown country wide crisis.

This is the problem. Not Amazon. Of course the left-wing media, and pundits, are in full on 'attack amazon' mode. Because digging into the problem and learning the real reason, takes time and intelligence. Both of which the left-wing has a deficiency of.

No, the reason is in the article: Insufficient wage makes the traveling to expensive.

Due to immigrants taking all the available housing pushing up prices for everyone else. Then the immigrants working outside the law driving down wages so that everyone suffers low wages

And who allowed them to come?

 

[Phoenall]

Unbelievable what that companies does! Read that stuff and you won´t buy anything from them anymore!

Workers´s homes - The new world order of employment

"Where the Amazombies sleep: Tented woods near Amazon's massive distribution centre is 'lived in by Christmas worker elves' who are barely paid the minimum wage to work blistering 12-hour shifts with timed toilet breaks"

Amazon workers spotted 'living in tents' near Dunfermline site | Daily Mail Online

Amazon will fix this, but not the way you think.

They'll simply reduce the number of seasonal workers. Amazon can't pay people tons of money to work short term seasonal work. No company can. The idea you are going to get a temporary job, that pays $20 an hour is crazy.

The UK has minimum wage laws, and Amazon is following the laws. They have done nothing wrong.

What you people fail to realize is that the whole reason for this is entirely different.

The UK has a massive housing crisis. It's been on-going for years now. The rent control laws in the UK, has prevented any investment into building new homes. No one is going to invest millions into making new apartments, when they can't charge enough money to make a profit.

So they simply don't make new apartments and homes.

Additionally, the UK has tons of 'green-space' laws, which prevent people from building new homes.

Lastly, the UK has had in the last few years, had a massive influx of immigrants. These migrants have no money to buy a home, and little money to rent a home, assuming they could even find a place to rent, which many can't.

The real reason that a massive 3 people.... just 3 people..... have been staying in tents, is because they simply can't find a place to live.

The government laws and regulations, have turned a shortage of housing, into a full blown country wide crisis.

This is the problem. Not Amazon. Of course the left-wing media, and pundits, are in full on 'attack amazon' mode. Because digging into the problem and learning the real reason, takes time and intelligence. Both of which the left-wing has a deficiency of.

No, the reason is in the article: Insufficient wage makes the traveling to expensive.

Due to immigrants taking all the available housing pushing up prices for everyone else. Then the immigrants working outside the law driving down wages so that everyone suffers low wages

And who allowed them to come?

the EU who forced the UK to have open borders and take in all comers to relieve the pressure of France and Germany

 

[Bleipriester]

Unbelievable what that companies does! Read that stuff and you won´t buy anything from them anymore!

Workers´s homes - The new world order of employment

"Where the Amazombies sleep: Tented woods near Amazon's massive distribution centre is 'lived in by Christmas worker elves' who are barely paid the minimum wage to work blistering 12-hour shifts with timed toilet breaks"

Amazon workers spotted 'living in tents' near Dunfermline site | Daily Mail Online

Amazon will fix this, but not the way you think.

They'll simply reduce the number of seasonal workers. Amazon can't pay people tons of money to work short term seasonal work. No company can. The idea you are going to get a temporary job, that pays $20 an hour is crazy.

The UK has minimum wage laws, and Amazon is following the laws. They have done nothing wrong.

What you people fail to realize is that the whole reason for this is entirely different.

The UK has a massive housing crisis. It's been on-going for years now. The rent control laws in the UK, has prevented any investment into building new homes. No one is going to invest millions into making new apartments, when they can't charge enough money to make a profit.

So they simply don't make new apartments and homes.

Additionally, the UK has tons of 'green-space' laws, which prevent people from building new homes.

Lastly, the UK has had in the last few years, had a massive influx of immigrants. These migrants have no money to buy a home, and little money to rent a home, assuming they could even find a place to rent, which many can't.

The real reason that a massive 3 people.... just 3 people..... have been staying in tents, is because they simply can't find a place to live.

The government laws and regulations, have turned a shortage of housing, into a full blown country wide crisis.

This is the problem. Not Amazon. Of course the left-wing media, and pundits, are in full on 'attack amazon' mode. Because digging into the problem and learning the real reason, takes time and intelligence. Both of which the left-wing has a deficiency of.

No, the reason is in the article: Insufficient wage makes the traveling to expensive.

Due to immigrants taking all the available housing pushing up prices for everyone else. Then the immigrants working outside the law driving down wages so that everyone suffers low wages

And who allowed them to come?

the EU who forced the UK to have open borders and take in all comers to relieve the pressure of France and Germany

You are joking. Your government alone is responsible. They are not friends of their own people.

 

[Phoenall]

Amazon will fix this, but not the way you think.

They'll simply reduce the number of seasonal workers. Amazon can't pay people tons of money to work short term seasonal work. No company can. The idea you are going to get a temporary job, that pays $20 an hour is crazy.

The UK has minimum wage laws, and Amazon is following the laws. They have done nothing wrong.

What you people fail to realize is that the whole reason for this is entirely different.

The UK has a massive housing crisis. It's been on-going for years now. The rent control laws in the UK, has prevented any investment into building new homes. No one is going to invest millions into making new apartments, when they can't charge enough money to make a profit.

So they simply don't make new apartments and homes.

Additionally, the UK has tons of 'green-space' laws, which prevent people from building new homes.

Lastly, the UK has had in the last few years, had a massive influx of immigrants. These migrants have no money to buy a home, and little money to rent a home, assuming they could even find a place to rent, which many can't.

The real reason that a massive 3 people.... just 3 people..... have been staying in tents, is because they simply can't find a place to live.

The government laws and regulations, have turned a shortage of housing, into a full blown country wide crisis.

This is the problem. Not Amazon. Of course the left-wing media, and pundits, are in full on 'attack amazon' mode. Because digging into the problem and learning the real reason, takes time and intelligence. Both of which the left-wing has a deficiency of.

No, the reason is in the article: Insufficient wage makes the traveling to expensive.

Due to immigrants taking all the available housing pushing up prices for everyone else. Then the immigrants working outside the law driving down wages so that everyone suffers low wages

And who allowed them to come?

the EU who forced the UK to have open borders and take in all comers to relieve the pressure of France and Germany

You are joking. Your government alone is responsible. They are not friends of their own people.

The left wing neo marxist government maybe who were cowards and refused to stand up to the EU and tell them NO

 

[Bleipriester]

No, the reason is in the article: Insufficient wage makes the traveling to expensive.

Due to immigrants taking all the available housing pushing up prices for everyone else. Then the immigrants working outside the law driving down wages so that everyone suffers low wages

And who allowed them to come?

the EU who forced the UK to have open borders and take in all comers to relieve the pressure of France and Germany

You are joking. Your government alone is responsible. They are not friends of their own people.

The left wing neo marxist government maybe who were cowards and refused to stand up to the EU and tell them NO

Delusional. Which party stands against the exodus of the western world? I mean, which has actively opposed uncontrolled mass immigration of other countries´ lowest?

 

[HenryBHough]

Encountered something very much like this at a recently opened Amaon "fullfillment center".

Yup. A few tents in a heavy woods nearby.

Interesting logic, though. Not wages - the "residents" weren't complaining. There IS public transit from the core city, much ballyooed as part of the facility opening. But the two trips per day seem to have been carefully scheduled to avoid the hours when people need to start their shifts. Also so neatly scheduled that the return trips end minutes after the scheduled shift-end. Precluding any of the available overtime. So they improvise. Tent for the work week and pool resources for taxi rides Monday morning and Friday evening. For now it's cool enough that the food they bring with them doesn't spoil and the tents/sleeping bags keep them warm. Sanitation IS a bit of an issue but the woods are very, very big.

The folks in the tents are picking up all the overtime though not saving on rent.