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Most likely, Rome, after the seizure of power by the plebeians, was also close to being Germanic. The plebeians were not real aristocrats, their power was commercial, as in Germany. Women were of great importance. Most likely they were the Etruscans, a kind of Germans. Etruscan lang is not Indo-European. The symbolism is similar to the German - she-wolf.
Since 800 exists the Holy Empire. The adding "von deutscher Nation" means "from united nations". This "united" refers to all nations who speak a German dialect or language. The Holy Empire ended 1806.since 1512 - Holy Roman Empire of the German nation
I have a different opinion. This state was created by the Huns after Attila. At a certain point, a plague epidemic broke out there, then Europe was devastated, and the Franks gradually spread from France. In the 16th century, it finally fell under the rule of the Germans (real)The adding "von deutscher Nation" means "from united nations".
I think that they were analogous to the Serbs. Serbs also have traces of Germanic culture and genetics. Now they speak Slavic, but their pronunciation betrays their Germanic roots. They were Slavicized after the Bulgars came to the Danube. These were apparently tribes close to the Illyrians, Norics and Venets.(Remark: You bring sometimes in direct context what is hundreds or thousands of years far away as if such things had caused each other forwards and backwards through the time just some Plank-seconds before. ("Plank-seconds" is by the way a mistake I made intentionally and the Etruskians are also "by the way" normal Europeans like all others. Typical Italian DNA. But their culture was indeed very different. Still a mystery. It is perhaps an older culture which survived). )
I have a different opinion.
This state was created by the Huns after Attila.
At a certain point, a plague epidemic broke out there, then Europe was devastated, and the Franks gradually spread from France. In the 16th century, it finally fell under the rule of the Germans (real)
I think
that they were analogous to the Serbs. ...
No.... The policy of the Serbs is also similar to the German one. ...
I stand by my opinion. The Romanesque and Pre-Romanesque periods of the Holy Roman Empire were chivalrous, there are many oriental traces and they were radically different from the Germanic period of the Gothic. That is why Romance arose against the backdrop of liberation from the Germans in Europe, and this appealed to the Romanesque period.What a surprise. Do you also have an opinion how electrons and protons decide what they do?
The Holy Empire was founded from the Frankonians and it never had been a state. And you are as wrong with your "opinion" as if you had the opinion the solar system has two suns.
Your are really a full-time idiot. The Bavarians are Germanics who lived "since ever" in the same place where they live still today - except we count also the Bohemians (=Boio) to the Bavarians - what makes a big sense - which had been eliminated from the Czech Slaws with the help of the Russians and the other allies of world war 2. A war crime.
The Slavic language spread from the Danube valley, in both directions. This exactly coincides with the arrival of the Bulgars and the growth of the Avar Khaganate. Before that, the Balkans spoke the Old Balkan languagesSigh
Weird. Totally weird. The Slawic language was made in the 5th century in a place where Russia is doing war now. It's absolutelly impossible that Slaws have anything to do with the Italian Etruskians.
I think that they were analogous to the Serbs. Serbs also have traces of Germanic culture and genetics. Now they speak Slavic, but their pronunciation betrays their Germanic roots. They were Slavicized after the Bulgars came to the Danube.
These were apparently tribes close to the Illyrians, Norics and Venets.
What is the contradiction? Have the Germans always lived only in the northern lands of Europe?Unimportant for me.
OR NOT!!!
A moment ago you had the very unplausible hypothese - without any fact which produces this hypothese - that the Serbs have Germanic ancestors. Now you have the idea they are Illyrian-Noric-Venets. Venets from Venice? What do you think about ithe opinion Serbs are the product of flying saucers with Zeppelins? Or are they perhaps Slaws because they use a Slawic language?
No.The language of the Serbs sounds exactly like a German
What is the contradiction? Have the Germans always lived only in the northern lands of Europe?
And the genetics are pretty much the same.