America then, and now.

and you indicated you would vote for or support Roosevelt.
Don't start lying.
I never said that I'd vote for him.
Just that even though he had a speech impediment.
Roosevelt was an effective communicator.
Like I said, start a thread, and get a life. ... :cuckoo:
 
Either did Trump.

Seems he did

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That was a TRUMP mob attacking our Capitol
Trump did not call them off
Trump wanted the National Guard there to keep the peace and NANCY said NO.
That riot was Nancy's fault, not Trump's.
The J6 rioters should be prosecuted, and they are, unlike the BLM rioters.
 

If everyone in this country did read all of the time and were educated in real history, economics, math, grammar, english, we wouldn't have the tyranny that we have now.
 
Trump wanted the National Guard there to keep the peace and NANCY said NO.
That riot was Nancy's fault, not Trump's.
The J6 rioters should be prosecuted, and they are, unlike the BLM rioters.
Go back and see what Trump really wanted
He wanted the National Guard to protect the TRUMPmob

NOT to protect the Capitol
 
Go back and see what Trump really wanted
He wanted the National Guard to protect the TRUMP mob
NOT to protect the Capitol
Point being that Trump wanted 10,000 NG troops there, and Nancy said no.

Once the troops were there they could have been put where they were needed.
 
Point being that Trump wanted 10,000 NG troops there, and Nancy said no.

Once the troops were there they could have been put where they were needed.

You are making up shit
No way was Pelosi involved in the deployment of NG troops

Fact is
Trump refused to call in troops on Jan 6
Pence called them in
 
You are making up shit
No way was Pelosi involved in the deployment of NG troops
Fact is
Trump refused to call in troops on Jan 6
Pence called them in
Fact is you never put up links to prove your lies.

According to Miller's testimony, Trump asked during that meeting whether the District of Columbia's mayor had requested National Guard troops for Jan. 6, the day Congress was to ratify Joe Biden's presidential election victory.
Trump told Miller to "fill" the request, the former defense secretary testified. Miller said Trump told him: "Do whatever is necessary to protect demonstrators that were executing their constitutionally protected rights."

Pence called them in? Link that.
 
I was thinking about our current nation. And imagining how we would react to people of previous generations.

First. I don’t think any previous President could get elected today. By the standards of our current discourse. They are too smart. Too educated. Too liberal.

Teddy Roosevelt read books. A lot of books. We would snort with derision at such a man today. The idea that he would read a book a day is ludicrous. Now.

We respected intelligence and we respected education. Now. Imagine if Igor Sikorsky came forward with an idea for a revolutionary new machine. We would snort and denounce him, and his investors. We would insult and belittle him.

Some would even demand he get deported. Or locked up. He was an immigrant.

Most of the scientists who worked on the Atomic Bomb were Jewish. Well we couldn’t allow that today. They would be a part of some nefarious secret plan to keep Jews in power over all of us. Or something.

JFK read a lot of books. Reagan read books.

Carter was a Nuclear Engineer in the Navy. That means he had a lot of brain power.

Bush 41 was a pilot. That means he was smart enough to do math.

What happened that we changed so dramatically? Why do we denounce those with intelligence? We used to celebrate them. We used to heed their words. And we used to respect those who were educated and continued to read, consider, and learn.

We’re they always right? No. But we knew men were mortal. And we knew that we were human and made mistakes.

What does the future hold if we refuse to listen to those with the knowledge we need to make good decisions?
Idiocracy.
 
I was thinking about our current nation. And imagining how we would react to people of previous generations.

First. I don’t think any previous President could get elected today. By the standards of our current discourse. They are too smart. Too educated. Too liberal.

Teddy Roosevelt read books. A lot of books. We would snort with derision at such a man today. The idea that he would read a book a day is ludicrous. Now.

We respected intelligence and we respected education. Now. Imagine if Igor Sikorsky came forward with an idea for a revolutionary new machine. We would snort and denounce him, and his investors. We would insult and belittle him.

Some would even demand he get deported. Or locked up. He was an immigrant.

Most of the scientists who worked on the Atomic Bomb were Jewish. Well we couldn’t allow that today. They would be a part of some nefarious secret plan to keep Jews in power over all of us. Or something.

JFK read a lot of books. Reagan read books.

Carter was a Nuclear Engineer in the Navy. That means he had a lot of brain power.

Bush 41 was a pilot. That means he was smart enough to do math.

What happened that we changed so dramatically? Why do we denounce those with intelligence? We used to celebrate them. We used to heed their words. And we used to respect those who were educated and continued to read, consider, and learn.

We’re they always right? No. But we knew men were mortal. And we knew that we were human and made mistakes.

What does the future hold if we refuse to listen to those with the knowledge we need to make good decisions?
Good post. There have always been people who belittled intelligence and education. But now a rich man has become the poster boy for ignorance, vulgarity and conspiracy theories. He's adored by the uneducated that he loves.
 
According to Miller's testimony, Trump asked during that meeting whether the District of Columbia's mayor had requested National Guard troops for Jan. 6, the day Congress was to ratify Joe Biden's presidential election victory.
Trump told Miller to "fill" the request, the former defense secretary testified. Miller said Trump told him: "Do whatever is necessary to protect demonstrators that were executing their constitutionally protected rights."

Pence called them in? Link that.
How exactly did Pelosi stop Trump from calling uptroops to protect his insurrectionists?
 
I was thinking about our current nation. And imagining how we would react to people of previous generations.

First. I don’t think any previous President could get elected today. By the standards of our current discourse. They are too smart. Too educated. Too liberal.

Teddy Roosevelt read books. A lot of books. We would snort with derision at such a man today. The idea that he would read a book a day is ludicrous. Now.

We respected intelligence and we respected education. Now. Imagine if Igor Sikorsky came forward with an idea for a revolutionary new machine. We would snort and denounce him, and his investors. We would insult and belittle him.

Some would even demand he get deported. Or locked up. He was an immigrant.

Most of the scientists who worked on the Atomic Bomb were Jewish. Well we couldn’t allow that today. They would be a part of some nefarious secret plan to keep Jews in power over all of us. Or something.

JFK read a lot of books. Reagan read books.

Carter was a Nuclear Engineer in the Navy. That means he had a lot of brain power.

Bush 41 was a pilot. That means he was smart enough to do math.

What happened that we changed so dramatically? Why do we denounce those with intelligence? We used to celebrate them. We used to heed their words. And we used to respect those who were educated and continued to read, consider, and learn.

We’re they always right? No. But we knew men were mortal. And we knew that we were human and made mistakes.

What does the future hold if we refuse to listen to those with the knowledge we need to make good decisions?
Who’s denouncing people with intelligence?
 
It is true that the last and current potus lacked intelligence. That part is certainly true.
 
We need an average person to run rather than wealthy people who cannot relate to what work means.
 

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