'America Was Never That Great’

[ThunderKiss1965]

"We have not reached greatness," he said. "We will reach greatness when every American is fully engaged. We will reach greatness when discrimination and stereotyping against women, 51 percent of our population, is gone, and every woman's full potential is realized and unleashed, and every woman is making her full contribution."

A more perfect union.

Please point out any discrimination against women that doesn't have consequences ?

 

[Nosmo King]

"We have not reached greatness," he said. "We will reach greatness when every American is fully engaged. We will reach greatness when discrimination and stereotyping against women, 51 percent of our population, is gone, and every woman's full potential is realized and unleashed, and every woman is making her full contribution."

A more perfect union.

Please point out any discrimination against women that doesn't have consequences ?

Each and every example of discrimination against any American has consequences. Freedom only works when freedom works for everyone.

 

[ThunderKiss1965]

So many on the left are simply despicable

So when was it great LOL? When we had slavery or Jim Crow? Or now, when we have the worst inequality and upward Mobility in our history and none of the benefits all all other modern countries have? We have the potential. And no I am not leaving, brainwashed functional assholes...

Slavery and Jim Crow was overwhelmingly a Democratic party thing. Your upward mobility claim is complete bullshit more people have modern conveniences now than at anytime in history and those other so called modern countries are going to go bankrupt because of those benefits. The only reason we don't is because we have more shit.

 

[bripat9643]

Thank Bill DeBlasio for the new Democrat motto. Democrats claim they are patriots who love America, but every now and then they tell the truth. Republicans will enjoy rubbing Dim noses in DeBlasio's faux pas.

Audience Awkwardly Reacts When Cuomo Slams Trump’s MAGA Slogan, Says America ‘Was Never That Great’

New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo (D.) slammed President Donald Trump's "Make America Great Again" slogan on Wednesday, saying the country was "never that great" in the first place.

Speaking at an event for women and girls, Cuomo appeared to stun the crowd when he made the remark.

"We're not going to make America great again," Cuomo said. "It was never that great."

Some in the audience gasped and laughed in surprise.​

We were all brainwashed as kids "How Great America Is" in grade school, fed the propaganda taught in school and like gullible children believed it. When we became we realized we were lied to and America actually really was never that great to begin with and very overrated. We were brainwashed into how great Capitalism is and taught how bad Socialism is, but no one gave us a chance as kids to hear the other side of the story... to hear about Capitalism from a Socialist who is against Capitalism. We were only provided one opinion and view to everything about America. We were lied to in grade school about how our really "Great America" got the land from the Indians... not being told about the reality of mass Genocide of American Indian's in this country. No no teachers couldn't tell that side of the story that would contradict with the "How Great America Is" story they were brainwashing their school children into thinking.

As an adult besides just hearing about Capitalism and Socialism and Communism from America's perspective I decided to be fair and lend my ear to other countries that did not agree with America to hear their side of their story and see if their arguments had any merit. I heard their anger toward America and their arguments why they didn't agree with America on some things and to be fair I think there were things they were right about and somethings they were still wrong about. Hearing from brilliant speakers all over the globe on youtube for example really opened my eyes and by listening to their side of the story I began to realize that America actually really was never that great to begin with

in which countries has socialism worked? in which countries has communism worked? Give us a list.

Pure socialism as an economic system doesn’t work since it provides nothing for individual incentive. On the other hand, many countries with a mix of capitalism and socialism work very well. They have a strong middle class, universal healthcare, good standard of living by a number of indicators. Is that bad?

They don't work as well as pure capitalism. Their growth rates are lower. They suffer from chronic unemployment, and their healthcare sucks.

 

[bripat9643]

"We have not reached greatness," he said. "We will reach greatness when every American is fully engaged. We will reach greatness when discrimination and stereotyping against women, 51 percent of our population, is gone, and every woman's full potential is realized and unleashed, and every woman is making her full contribution."

A more perfect union.

Please point out any discrimination against women that doesn't have consequences ?

Each and every example of discrimination against any American has consequences. Freedom only works when freedom works for everyone.

Bullshit. Furthermore, discrimination is an essential feature of freedom. If you aren't allowed to discriminate, then your freedom of choice and your freedom of association is eliminated.

 

[bripat9643]

Pure socialism as an economic system doesn’t work since it provides nothing for individual incentive. On the other hand, many countries with a mix of capitalism and socialism work very well. They have a strong middle class, universal healthcare, good standard of living by a number of indicators. Is that bad?

Do you agree with Cuomo and the DNC in general that America was never great and must be overthrown to provide "justice" through a brutal Marxist dictatorship?

Of course you do.

Did anyone actually say that? Of course they didnt. But if you are upset about drooling for authoritarianism look no further than the White House today.

I love my country but I am fully aware that it wasn’t always so great for certain groups of people. Recognizing that is recognizing our history and our present circumstances but loving her none the less. It means we as a country were built under some wonderful principals and ideals we are still struggling to realize, we are not frozen in some mythical past that never really existed for all Americans.

When you can name a country that's perfect, perhaps someone may give a shit about your endless whining and complaining about America.

 

[bripat9643]

Cuomo's a rich spoiled rotten little douchebag. He was born with a silver spoon. America has been pretty great to him. He's just another Limousine Liberal douche. Nuff said.

Like Trump.

Nah, Trump loves his country. Cuomo is a typical Limousine Liberal douche. America has afforded him all his good fortune. It's been great to him and his family. He should be ashamed of what he said.

Trump loves whatever enriches himself and his family.

Typical worthless leftwing personal attack. Here's the president who is supposedly concerned about the little guy:

 

[Nosmo King]

"We have not reached greatness," he said. "We will reach greatness when every American is fully engaged. We will reach greatness when discrimination and stereotyping against women, 51 percent of our population, is gone, and every woman's full potential is realized and unleashed, and every woman is making her full contribution."

A more perfect union.

Please point out any discrimination against women that doesn't have consequences ?

Each and every example of discrimination against any American has consequences. Freedom only works when freedom works for everyone.

Bullshit. Furthermore, discrimination is an essential feature of freedom. If you aren't allowed to discriminate, then your freedom of choice and your freedom of association is eliminated.

So you believe there must be a second tier of citizen who deserves to be treated as such. And you call that essential to freedom.

 

[bripat9643]

You better look at the results of Socialism. The rich are not taxed; the high income earners are taxed and the Middle Class becomes none existent.

I don't know what socialism you are talking about, but outside doop world it is Scandinavia the EU Canada New Zealand Australia Japan where they have huge middle classes and not many poor. They still have plenty of rich people. Only brainwashed idiots allow a flat tax system like we have.

The countries you listed are some of the least socialist in the entire world.

Heritage Index of Economic Freedom.

Country Rank

New Zealand 3
Australia 5
Canada 9
Japan 30

Interestingly those countries also have socialist healthcare.

Healthcare in Japan is not socialist.

It is government regulated but privately provided. Like Fascist Care, it is mandatory.

https://yosida.com/forms/nationalins.pdf

The government oays 70% of the cost.
Health care system in Japan - Wikipedia

Our government pays 50% of the cost of healthcare. Not a significant difference.

 

[bripat9643]

The Right completely continues to ignore the difference between actual socialism (Venezuela) and social democracy (Scandanavia, Canada, Europe, Australia).

The only question is, are they being intellectually dishonest, or do they really not know?
.

It's the left that ignores the difference. The latter countries are examples of capitalism. I showed how their economies are closer to the free market than ours.

 

[ThunderKiss1965]

"We have not reached greatness," he said. "We will reach greatness when every American is fully engaged. We will reach greatness when discrimination and stereotyping against women, 51 percent of our population, is gone, and every woman's full potential is realized and unleashed, and every woman is making her full contribution."

A more perfect union.

Please point out any discrimination against women that doesn't have consequences ?

Each and every example of discrimination against any American has consequences. Freedom only works when freedom works for everyone.

So. Women do have equal rights and any discrimination has consequences which either means Cuomo is completely full of shit or he's bitching about fuck all. Given that big ole D that usually accompanies his name I'm thinking a big bunch of the former with more than a little dash of the last.

 

[bripat9643]

"We have not reached greatness," he said. "We will reach greatness when every American is fully engaged. We will reach greatness when discrimination and stereotyping against women, 51 percent of our population, is gone, and every woman's full potential is realized and unleashed, and every woman is making her full contribution."

A more perfect union.

Please point out any discrimination against women that doesn't have consequences ?

Each and every example of discrimination against any American has consequences. Freedom only works when freedom works for everyone.

Bullshit. Furthermore, discrimination is an essential feature of freedom. If you aren't allowed to discriminate, then your freedom of choice and your freedom of association is eliminated.

So you believe there must be a second tier of citizen who deserves to be treated as such. And you call that essential to freedom.

No one said anything about "tiers." If I want to throw leftwing scumbags out of my restaurant, that is my right. If a black person wants to have a night club for black people only, that should be his right. That's called "freedom of association." It's an act of discrimination.

 

[bripat9643]

So many Democrats have gotten filthy rich by way of America and Capitalism. Yet they keep pushing Communism on the little people. They don't care how awful their agenda is, because they'll always be filthy rich. They'll never have to stand in a bread line for 10 hours. Does anyone really believe Pelosi, Schumer, Cuomo would ever stand in a bread line with the little people?

Can you provide a quote (complete and with context) of any of those people pushing communism?

 

[Reasonable]

I don't know what socialism you are talking about, but outside doop world it is Scandinavia the EU Canada New Zealand Australia Japan where they have huge middle classes and not many poor. They still have plenty of rich people. Only brainwashed idiots allow a flat tax system like we have.

The countries you listed are some of the least socialist in the entire world.

Heritage Index of Economic Freedom.

Country Rank

New Zealand 3
Australia 5
Canada 9
Japan 30

Interestingly those countries also have socialist healthcare.

Healthcare in Japan is not socialist.

It is government regulated but privately provided. Like Fascist Care, it is mandatory.

https://yosida.com/forms/nationalins.pdf

The government oays 70% of the cost.
Health care system in Japan - Wikipedia

Our government pays 50% of the cost of healthcare. Not a significant difference.

So how's Trumpcare working out?

" Vote for me and we'll have affordable healthcare and everyone will be covered."

Just another of his 4,229 lies.

 

[Reasonable]

So many Democrats have gotten filthy rich by way of America and Capitalism. Yet they keep pushing Communism on the little people. They don't care how awful their agenda is, because they'll always be filthy rich. They'll never have to stand in a bread line for 10 hours. Does anyone really believe Pelosi, Schumer, Cuomo would ever stand in a bread line with the little people?

Can you provide a quote (complete and with context) of any of those people pushing communism?

When the Dems take over the House as predicted( 3 out of 4 chance)
Guess who heads the committee that can make 45 turn over his bank records.
Maxine Waters.

Just like Omarosa is having the last laugh on the pussygrabber, so will Maxine.
Sux to be you.

 

[bripat9643]

What would Europe look like today had the United States totally withdrawn from Europe following victory in WW2? Even today, if the United States withdrew all military support from Europe, could they maintain their socialist programs? Would Europe even be able to hold together at all? Would Europe face war again?

The United States was and is great. Not perfect, but definitely great. The existence of these critics is proof of America's greatness. It has been so long since the United States has faced a true enemy, that people have forgotten what that is actually like. Take a typical High School grad. They know the basics about Hitler. But, most have no idea who Stalin and Mao were or what they did, nor do they care. That is history from the last hundred years, not ancient Greece.

Think about it this way. I would speculate that most people believe the United States will exist forever and will never be confronted and defeated by a foreign power. Unfortunately, many take America's greatness for granted and would only realize how fortunate we are if that greatness is threatened.

I don't believe the US will last another 50 years.

 

[bripat9643]

The countries you listed are some of the least socialist in the entire world.

Heritage Index of Economic Freedom.

Country Rank

New Zealand 3
Australia 5
Canada 9
Japan 30

Interestingly those countries also have socialist healthcare.

Healthcare in Japan is not socialist.

It is government regulated but privately provided. Like Fascist Care, it is mandatory.

https://yosida.com/forms/nationalins.pdf

The government oays 70% of the cost.
Health care system in Japan - Wikipedia

Our government pays 50% of the cost of healthcare. Not a significant difference.

So how's Trumpcare working out?

" Vote for me and we'll have affordable healthcare and everyone will be covered."

Just another of his 4,229 lies.

When did that pass?

 

[ThunderKiss1965]

The countries you listed are some of the least socialist in the entire world.

Heritage Index of Economic Freedom.

Country Rank

New Zealand 3
Australia 5
Canada 9
Japan 30

Interestingly those countries also have socialist healthcare.

Healthcare in Japan is not socialist.

It is government regulated but privately provided. Like Fascist Care, it is mandatory.

https://yosida.com/forms/nationalins.pdf

The government oays 70% of the cost.
Health care system in Japan - Wikipedia

Our government pays 50% of the cost of healthcare. Not a significant difference.

So how's Trumpcare working out?

" Vote for me and we'll have affordable healthcare and everyone will be covered."

Just another of his 4,229 lies.

It was 2 years into the Obama administration before he got his health care signed into law so.. .

 

[Reasonable]

What would Europe look like today had the United States totally withdrawn from Europe following victory in WW2? Even today, if the United States withdrew all military support from Europe, could they maintain their socialist programs? Would Europe even be able to hold together at all? Would Europe face war again?

The United States was and is great. Not perfect, but definitely great. The existence of these critics is proof of America's greatness. It has been so long since the United States has faced a true enemy, that people have forgotten what that is actually like. Take a typical High School grad. They know the basics about Hitler. But, most have no idea who Stalin and Mao were or what they did, nor do they care. That is history from the last hundred years, not ancient Greece.

Think about it this way. I would speculate that most people believe the United States will exist forever and will never be confronted and defeated by a foreign power. Unfortunately, many take America's greatness for granted and would only realize how fortunate we are if that greatness is threatened.

I don't believe the US will last another 50 years.

45 will destroy it was before then.

 

[bripat9643]

So many Democrats have gotten filthy rich by way of America and Capitalism. Yet they keep pushing Communism on the little people. They don't care how awful their agenda is, because they'll always be filthy rich. They'll never have to stand in a bread line for 10 hours. Does anyone really believe Pelosi, Schumer, Cuomo would ever stand in a bread line with the little people?

Can you provide a quote (complete and with context) of any of those people pushing communism?

When the Dems take over the House as predicted( 3 out of 4 chance)
Guess who heads the committee that can make 45 turn over his bank records.
Maxine Waters.

Just like Omarosa is having the last laugh on the pussygrabber, so will Maxine.
Sux to be you.

Hmmm, no, she can't make Trump turn over his bank records. That requires a warrant and probable cause.

You Trump hating assholes just don't give a flying fuck about the Constitution.