'America Was Never That Great’

[Mac1958]

Do you agree with Cuomo and the DNC in general that America was never great and must be overthrown to provide "justice" through a brutal Marxist dictatorship?

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[Mac1958]

The Right completely continues to ignore the difference between actual socialism (Venezuela) and social democracy (Scandanavia, Canada, Europe, Australia).

The only question is, are they being intellectually dishonest, or do they really not know?
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[Reasonable]

Thank Bill DeBlasio for the new Democrat motto. Democrats claim they are patriots who love America, but every now and then they tell the truth. Republicans will enjoy rubbing Dim noses in DeBlasio's faux pas.

Audience Awkwardly Reacts When Cuomo Slams Trump’s MAGA Slogan, Says America ‘Was Never That Great’

New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo (D.) slammed President Donald Trump's "Make America Great Again" slogan on Wednesday, saying the country was "never that great" in the first place.

Speaking at an event for women and girls, Cuomo appeared to stun the crowd when he made the remark.

"We're not going to make America great again," Cuomo said. "It was never that great."

Some in the audience gasped and laughed in surprise.​

Every time this official mental patient posts his sources they get more right wing and bizarre.
This is the worm that was so embarrassed to admit what he reads when I cornered him with that question.

 

[Reasonable]

The Right completely continues to ignore the difference between actual socialism (Venezuela) and social democracy (Scandanavia, Canada, Europe, Australia).

The only question is, are they being intellectually dishonest, or do they really not know?
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the latter.

 

[Reasonable]

"We have not reached greatness," he said. "We will reach greatness when every American is fully engaged. We will reach greatness when discrimination and stereotyping against women, 51 percent of our population, is gone, and every woman's full potential is realized and unleashed, and every woman is making her full contribution."

A more perfect union.

Never, in other words. Trump's motto is "Make America Great Again," not make American perfect.

MAGA lol
Try being honest for once in your life.

 

[Reasonable]

So many on the left are simply despicable

Grampa thinks America was great when women couldn’t vote.

/——/ Dems think America was great when they held slaves.

Deplorables think America was great in the 1950’s when blacks knew their place and women were frowned on from leaving the kitchen.

 

[EGR one]

Thank Bill DeBlasio for the new Democrat motto. Democrats claim they are patriots who love America, but every now and then they tell the truth. Republicans will enjoy rubbing Dim noses in DeBlasio's faux pas.

Audience Awkwardly Reacts When Cuomo Slams Trump’s MAGA Slogan, Says America ‘Was Never That Great’

New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo (D.) slammed President Donald Trump's "Make America Great Again" slogan on Wednesday, saying the country was "never that great" in the first place.

Speaking at an event for women and girls, Cuomo appeared to stun the crowd when he made the remark.

"We're not going to make America great again," Cuomo said. "It was never that great."

Some in the audience gasped and laughed in surprise.​

We were all brainwashed as kids "How Great America Is" in grade school, fed the propaganda taught in school and like gullible children believed it. When we became we realized we were lied to and America actually really was never that great to begin with and very overrated. We were brainwashed into how great Capitalism is and taught how bad Socialism is, but no one gave us a chance as kids to hear the other side of the story... to hear about Capitalism from a Socialist who is against Capitalism. We were only provided one opinion and view to everything about America. We were lied to in grade school about how our really "Great America" got the land from the Indians... not being told about the reality of mass Genocide of American Indian's in this country. No no teachers couldn't tell that side of the story that would contradict with the "How Great America Is" story they were brainwashing their school children into thinking.

As an adult besides just hearing about Capitalism and Socialism and Communism from America's perspective I decided to be fair and lend my ear to other countries that did not agree with America to hear their side of their story and see if their arguments had any merit. I heard their anger toward America and their arguments why they didn't agree with America on some things and to be fair I think there were things they were right about and somethings they were still wrong about. Hearing from brilliant speakers all over the globe on youtube for example really opened my eyes and by listening to their side of the story I began to realize that America actually really was never that great to begin with

in which countries has socialism worked? in which countries has communism worked? Give us a list.

Pure socialism as an economic system doesn’t work since it provides nothing for individual incentive. On the other hand, many countries with a mix of capitalism and socialism work very well. They have a strong middle class, universal healthcare, good standard of living by a number of indicators. Is that bad?

Is that bad? It pretty much depends on where you are looking from, and what you call good and/or bad. Do we exist as individuals, making our own successes and failures, or do we exist as a group of people, all responsible for each other, and no one individually responsible for him or herself?

America was great when the individual's right to success trumped societies right to success. It will be great again when the individual once again becomes supreme.

There is little joy in success, unless there is also a real risk of failure. Are we better off existing as drones in a society, or actually living on our own merits?

 

[Coyote]

So many Democrats have gotten filthy rich by way of America and Capitalism. Yet they keep pushing Communism on the little people. They don't care how awful their agenda is, because they'll always be filthy rich. They'll never have to stand in a bread line for 10 hours. Does anyone really believe Pelosi, Schumer, Cuomo would ever stand in a bread line with the little people?

Can you provide a quote (complete and with context) of any of those people pushing communism?

 

[Dschrute3]

Cuomo's spoiled rich ass owes everything to America. I swear, i can't stand pompous Limousine Liberal wankers.

 

[Coyote]

The Right completely continues to ignore the difference between actual socialism (Venezuela) and social democracy (Scandanavia, Canada, Europe, Australia).

The only question is, are they being intellectually dishonest, or do they really not know?
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It serves the purpose of some to conflate the two.

 

[EGR one]

The Right completely continues to ignore the difference between actual socialism (Venezuela) and social democracy (Scandanavia, Canada, Europe, Australia).

The only question is, are they being intellectually dishonest, or do they really not know?
.

A little bit of cancer vs a whole lot of cancer. That is the difference, and results in the same bad outcome. Once a socialist program is instituted, it is virtually impossible to pull back without hurting a whole lot of people. And, there is a very broad menu of socialist programs available for the next step into the mire. The slippery slope into societal failure, or dictatorship.

 

[Mike473]

What would Europe look like today had the United States totally withdrawn from Europe following victory in WW2? Even today, if the United States withdrew all military support from Europe, could they maintain their socialist programs? Would Europe even be able to hold together at all? Would Europe face war again?

The United States was and is great. Not perfect, but definitely great. The existence of these critics is proof of America's greatness. It has been so long since the United States has faced a true enemy, that people have forgotten what that is actually like. Take a typical High School grad. They know the basics about Hitler. But, most have no idea who Stalin and Mao were or what they did, nor do they care. That is history from the last hundred years, not ancient Greece.

Think about it this way. I would speculate that most people believe the United States will exist forever and will never be confronted and defeated by a foreign power. Unfortunately, many take America's greatness for granted and would only realize how fortunate we are if that greatness is threatened.

 

[Mac1958]

The Right completely continues to ignore the difference between actual socialism (Venezuela) and social democracy (Scandanavia, Canada, Europe, Australia). The only question is, are they being intellectually dishonest, or do they really not know?

It serves the purpose of some to conflate the two.

That's my guess. But talk radio makes no distinction, so I wonder if they're just not exposed to the difference. It's a terribly binary universe.
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[Cellblock2429]

So many on the left are simply despicable

Grampa thinks America was great when women couldn’t vote.

/——/ Dems think America was great when they held slaves.

Deplorables think America was great in the 1950’s when blacks knew their place and women were frowned on from leaving the kitchen.

/——-/ democRATs fought to block women’s right to vote and filibustered the CRA and VRA. Republicans got them passed. Do your homework before you post your tripe.

 

[Mac1958]

The Right completely continues to ignore the difference between actual socialism (Venezuela) and social democracy (Scandanavia, Canada, Europe, Australia).

The only question is, are they being intellectually dishonest, or do they really not know?
.

A little bit of cancer vs a whole lot of cancer. That is the difference, and results in the same bad outcome. Once a socialist program is instituted, it is virtually impossible to pull back without hurting a whole lot of people. And, there is a very broad menu of socialist programs available for the next step into the mire. The slippery slope into societal failure, or dictatorship.

We haven't seen Canada, Finland, Sweden, Germany, Britain, France or Australia descend into a dictatorship.

I understand the concept of a slippery slope, of course, but there just isn't a significant track record of this.
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[Cellblock2429]

The Right completely continues to ignore the difference between actual socialism (Venezuela) and social democracy (Scandanavia, Canada, Europe, Australia). The only question is, are they being intellectually dishonest, or do they really not know?

It serves the purpose of some to conflate the two.

That's my guess. But talk radio makes no distinction, so I wonder if they're just not exposed to the difference. It's a terribly binary universe.
.

/——/ democRAT socialists don’t have to fund their national security. We do. They can afford the socialism.

 

[Mac1958]

The Right completely continues to ignore the difference between actual socialism (Venezuela) and social democracy (Scandanavia, Canada, Europe, Australia). The only question is, are they being intellectually dishonest, or do they really not know?

It serves the purpose of some to conflate the two.

That's my guess. But talk radio makes no distinction, so I wonder if they're just not exposed to the difference. It's a terribly binary universe.
.

/——/ democRAT socialists don’t have to fund their national security. We do. They can afford the socialism.

Since I have no idea what your particular definition of "socialism" is, or to what you compare it, I have no idea what that means.
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[Cellblock2429]

The Right completely continues to ignore the difference between actual socialism (Venezuela) and social democracy (Scandanavia, Canada, Europe, Australia). The only question is, are they being intellectually dishonest, or do they really not know?

It serves the purpose of some to conflate the two.

That's my guess. But talk radio makes no distinction, so I wonder if they're just not exposed to the difference. It's a terribly binary universe.
.

/——/ democRAT socialists don’t have to fund their national security. We do. They can afford the socialism.

Since I have no idea what your particular definition of "socialism" is, or to what you compare it, I have no idea what that means.
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/——/ as outlined by the other poster Venezuela vs Europe

 

[Coyote]

So many on the left are simply despicable

Grampa thinks America was great when women couldn’t vote.

/——/ Dems think America was great when they held slaves.

Deplorables think America was great in the 1950’s when blacks knew their place and women were frowned on from leaving the kitchen.

/——-/ democRATs fought to block women’s right to vote and filibustered the CRA and VRA. Republicans got them passed. Do your homework before you post your tripe.

If you are intent on homework you would realize parties and ideological affiliations are not the same.

 

[Mac1958]

The Right completely continues to ignore the difference between actual socialism (Venezuela) and social democracy (Scandanavia, Canada, Europe, Australia). The only question is, are they being intellectually dishonest, or do they really not know?

It serves the purpose of some to conflate the two.

That's my guess. But talk radio makes no distinction, so I wonder if they're just not exposed to the difference. It's a terribly binary universe.
.

/——/ democRAT socialists don’t have to fund their national security. We do. They can afford the socialism.

Since I have no idea what your particular definition of "socialism" is, or to what you compare it, I have no idea what that means.
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/——/ as outlined by the other poster Venezuela vs Europe

Great. What the Left wants is a Euro-social democracy.

So you don't have to worry about real socialism now.
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