'America Was Never That Great’

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What would Europe look like today had the United States totally withdrawn from Europe following victory in WW2? Even today, if the United States withdrew all military support from Europe, could they maintain their socialist programs? Would Europe even be able to hold together at all? Would Europe face war again?

The United States was and is great. Not perfect, but definitely great. The existence of these critics is proof of America's greatness. It has been so long since the United States has faced a true enemy, that people have forgotten what that is actually like. Take a typical High School grad. They know the basics about Hitler. But, most have no idea who Stalin and Mao were or what they did, nor do they care. That is history from the last hundred years, not ancient Greece.

Think about it this way. I would speculate that most people believe the United States will exist forever and will never be confronted and defeated by a foreign power. Unfortunately, many take America's greatness for granted and would only realize how fortunate we are if that greatness is threatened.
I don't believe the US will last another 50 years.
45 will destroy it was before then.
Right just like he destroyed the economy oh wait ....
45 has ridden the Obama Economic wave. Check the graphs.
Facts are not your friend.

But with this ridiculous trade war watch him fuck it up. All economists know trade wars don’t work. 45 doesn’t know shit but thinks he does. That’s a dangerous president.
 
It's so charming the way you lie about everything.
Do you even know what those quotation marks represent?
You’re pulling a Trump/ Goebbels
“ Accuse others of what you’re doing. “
Without context they represent lies.
It’s hilarious you don’t know basic facts. It’s your MO.
You actually believe what the Liar in Chief told you,” Don’t believe anything until you hear it from me.”
EXAMPLE # 354 of what dictators say.
 
It's so charming the way you lie about everything.
Do you even know what those quotation marks represent?
You’re pulling a Trump/ Goebbels
“ Accuse others of what you’re doing. “
Without context they represent lies.
Idiot didn’t hear Fat man call black countries “ shitholes” or a black woman a “ dog” just this week.
If you back a racist that makes you one.
 
Cellblockhead doesn’t have the integrity to admit is was liberals who fought for civil and women’s rights while conservatives were dead set against it.
Who sent the National Guard so that black students could attend Little Rock Central High School?
Red herring.
No manner of spin will change the fact that liberals fought long and hard for the Civil Rights Act and Women's rights and conservatives fought against them.
You simply label anyone who supported civil rights to be a liberal.
Jesse Jackson, Martin Luther King, John Kennedy, Bob Dylan, Joan Baez, Harry Belafonte... I could go on all afternoon proving you to be woefully uniformed and a partisan asshole.
Jesse Jackson is a race hustling piece of shit who made himself rich off the suffering of "his people". JFK's FBI spied on most of the Civil Rights movement leaders. I don't know what the fuck you thing Dylan and Baez did other than sing songs and Harry Bellefonte loathed Democrats and what the Black community had become because of the parties policies.
Thanks for admitting you don’t know shit about civil rights and what those mentioned did for the civil rights movement.
White supremacists like you rarely do.
 
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No.... this prez isn’t racist.
/----/ All baseless accusations. It's all you have.
No wonder you believe in this dictator telling you,” Don’t believe anything you read or hear.”
/——-/ If Trump was a dictator the MSM would have been shut down and the likes of you would have been rounded up in the middle of the night an dealt with just like in Cuba. So give it up you sore loser.
Every news station is constantly talking about the autocratic things your pussygrabber is doing.
Except Fox News of course.
 
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What would Europe look like today had the United States totally withdrawn from Europe following victory in WW2? Even today, if the United States withdrew all military support from Europe, could they maintain their socialist programs? Would Europe even be able to hold together at all? Would Europe face war again?

The United States was and is great. Not perfect, but definitely great. The existence of these critics is proof of America's greatness. It has been so long since the United States has faced a true enemy, that people have forgotten what that is actually like. Take a typical High School grad. They know the basics about Hitler. But, most have no idea who Stalin and Mao were or what they did, nor do they care. That is history from the last hundred years, not ancient Greece.

Think about it this way. I would speculate that most people believe the United States will exist forever and will never be confronted and defeated by a foreign power. Unfortunately, many take America's greatness for granted and would only realize how fortunate we are if that greatness is threatened.
I don't believe the US will last another 50 years.
45 will destroy it was before then.
Right just like he destroyed the economy oh wait ....
45 has rode the Obama Economy wave. Check the graphs.
Facts are not your friend.

But with this ridiculous trade war watch him fuck it up. All economists know trade wars don’t work. 45 doesn’t know shit but thinks he does. That’s a dangerous president.
Obama economic wave ? Funny how all of the minutely positive things that happened during the Obama administration was all him but even 8 years into his tenure any bad was still Bush's. Remember under Obama the economic new normal would never see over 3% GDP growth again. We are no longer under the Obama administrations economy.
 
America is dead last in healthcare among the major industrial nations.
45 failed miserably on healthcare and instead of strengthening the ACA to help Americans the vindictive bastard is still trying to eliminate it.
That alone tells you everything you need to know about this horrid, weak prez.
/———/ That’s why people from socialist nanny states come to the US for care.
I provided proof that the US is dead last in healthcare but you’d rather believe whatever shit you pull from your ass.
The MO of a deplorable.
 
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What would Europe look like today had the United States totally withdrawn from Europe following victory in WW2? Even today, if the United States withdrew all military support from Europe, could they maintain their socialist programs? Would Europe even be able to hold together at all? Would Europe face war again?

The United States was and is great. Not perfect, but definitely great. The existence of these critics is proof of America's greatness. It has been so long since the United States has faced a true enemy, that people have forgotten what that is actually like. Take a typical High School grad. They know the basics about Hitler. But, most have no idea who Stalin and Mao were or what they did, nor do they care. That is history from the last hundred years, not ancient Greece.

Think about it this way. I would speculate that most people believe the United States will exist forever and will never be confronted and defeated by a foreign power. Unfortunately, many take America's greatness for granted and would only realize how fortunate we are if that greatness is threatened.
I don't believe the US will last another 50 years.
45 will destroy it was before then.
Right just like he destroyed the economy oh wait ....
45 has rode the Obama Economy wave. Check the graphs.
Facts are not your friend.

But with this ridiculous trade war watch him fuck it up. All economists know trade wars don’t work. 45 doesn’t know shit but thinks he does. That’s a dangerous president.
Obama economic wave ? Funny how all of the minutely positive things that happened during the Obama administration was all him but even 8 years into his tenure any bad was still Bush's. Remember under Obama the economic new normal would never see over 3% GDP growth again. We are no longer under the Obama administrations economy.
Minutely positive things?
As usual a deplorable is incapable of telling the truth.
 
Who sent the National Guard so that black students could attend Little Rock Central High School?
Red herring.
No manner of spin will change the fact that liberals fought long and hard for the Civil Rights Act and Women's rights and conservatives fought against them.
You simply label anyone who supported civil rights to be a liberal.
Jesse Jackson, Martin Luther King, John Kennedy, Bob Dylan, Joan Baez, Harry Belafonte... I could go on all afternoon proving you to be woefully uniformed and a partisan asshole.
Jesse Jackson is a race hustling piece of shit who made himself rich off the suffering of "his people". JFK's FBI spied on most of the Civil Rights movement leaders. I don't know what the fuck you thing Dylan and Baez did other than sing songs and Harry Bellefonte loathed Democrats and what the Black community had become because of the parties policies.
Thanks for admitting you don’t know shit about civil rights and what those mentioned did for the civil rights movement.
White supremacists like you rarely do.
White supremacist ? I have mixed race kids you ignorant shit and you can look up everything I stated prove me wrong.
 
Healthcare in Japan is not socialist.

It is government regulated but privately provided. Like Fascist Care, it is mandatory.

https://yosida.com/forms/nationalins.pdf
The government oays 70% of the cost.
Health care system in Japan - Wikipedia
Our government pays 50% of the cost of healthcare. Not a significant difference.
So how's Trumpcare working out?

" Vote for me and we'll have affordable healthcare and everyone will be covered."

Just another of his 4,229 lies.
It was 2 years into the Obama administration before he got his health care signed into law so.. .
When's the last time you heard 45 even-mentioned healthcare?
He hates talking about his failures and there's nothing brewing on healthcare in the GOP Congress.


Who cares?

How is healthcare his failure?

The mandate is gone, you have no way to enforce your fascist desires. You already lost.
 
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This is the only administration I’ve ever heard where top people called their president an “ idiot “ and a “ fucking moron.”
 
Please point out any discrimination against women that doesn't have consequences ?
Each and every example of discrimination against any American has consequences. Freedom only works when freedom works for everyone.
Bullshit. Furthermore, discrimination is an essential feature of freedom. If you aren't allowed to discriminate, then your freedom of choice and your freedom of association is eliminated.
So you believe there must be a second tier of citizen who deserves to be treated as such. And you call that essential to freedom.
No one said anything about "tiers." If I want to throw leftwing scumbags out of my restaurant, that is my right. If a black person wants to have a night club for black people only, that should be his right. That's called "freedom of association." It's an act of discrimination.
No one disputes your personal right to be an asshole. You freely exercise that right every day right here at USMB. But the state must never sanction discrimination in any form.


You mean like Facebook banning Alex Jones?

Oh that's different.....

Justice for some.
 
The government oays 70% of the cost.
Health care system in Japan - Wikipedia
Our government pays 50% of the cost of healthcare. Not a significant difference.
So how's Trumpcare working out?

" Vote for me and we'll have affordable healthcare and everyone will be covered."

Just another of his 4,229 lies.
It was 2 years into the Obama administration before he got his health care signed into law so.. .
When's the last time you heard 45 even-mentioned healthcare?
He hates talking about his failures and there's nothing brewing on healthcare in the GOP Congress.


Who cares?

How is healthcare his failure?

The mandate is gone, you have no way to enforce your fascist desires. You already lost.
Thanks for admitting 45 is not responsible for things that happen under his administration.
You have swallowed the Koolaid.
 
Each and every example of discrimination against any American has consequences. Freedom only works when freedom works for everyone.
Bullshit. Furthermore, discrimination is an essential feature of freedom. If you aren't allowed to discriminate, then your freedom of choice and your freedom of association is eliminated.
So you believe there must be a second tier of citizen who deserves to be treated as such. And you call that essential to freedom.
No one said anything about "tiers." If I want to throw leftwing scumbags out of my restaurant, that is my right. If a black person wants to have a night club for black people only, that should be his right. That's called "freedom of association." It's an act of discrimination.
No one disputes your personal right to be an asshole. You freely exercise that right every day right here at USMB. But the state must never sanction discrimination in any form.


You mean like Facebook banning Alex Jones?

Oh that's different.....

Justice for some.
Like you couldn’t sink any lower you stick up for the disgusting Alex Jones.
Figures.
 
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I don't believe the US will last another 50 years.
45 will destroy it was before then.
Right just like he destroyed the economy oh wait ....
45 has rode the Obama Economy wave. Check the graphs.
Facts are not your friend.

But with this ridiculous trade war watch him fuck it up. All economists know trade wars don’t work. 45 doesn’t know shit but thinks he does. That’s a dangerous president.
Obama economic wave ? Funny how all of the minutely positive things that happened during the Obama administration was all him but even 8 years into his tenure any bad was still Bush's. Remember under Obama the economic new normal would never see over 3% GDP growth again. We are no longer under the Obama administrations economy.
Minutely positive things?
As usual a deplorable is incapable of telling the truth.
I'm just going to stop you on the VA bullshit because you obviously slept though every scandal.
 
That's my guess. But talk radio makes no distinction, so I wonder if they're just not exposed to the difference. It's a terribly binary universe.
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/——/ democRAT socialists don’t have to fund their national security. We do. They can afford the socialism.
Since I have no idea what your particular definition of "socialism" is, or to what you compare it, I have no idea what that means.
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/——/ as outlined by the other poster Venezuela vs Europe
Great. What the Left wants is a Euro-social democracy.

So you don't have to worry about real socialism now.
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The next step after "Euro social democracy" is communism, and don't think they won't start pushing for it.


The democrats are not seeking Euroweenie socialism. They are already pushing for flat out Stalinism.

{Warren, a Democrat from Massachusetts, unveiled plans for her new legislation, the Accountable Capitalism Act, in an op-ed in The Wall Street Journal on Tuesday. The proposed bill would requirecorporations with more than $1 billion in annual revenue to obtain a federal charter. The charter aims to mitigate income inequality by obligating company directors to consider the interests of all stakeholders, including employees and those in the community where the company is based, not just those who own the stock.}

Warren's Accountable Capitalism Act is 'seriously misguided,' economics professor says 
 

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