Another example of lib hypocrisy. Lena Dunham vs. the Duggars

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You don't even have to pay for a ticket. And if you get bored here, there's a couple more threads on this family filled with nothing but raw hate.

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Stephanie, I am immune to libtard obnoxiousness. Once you realize that these are the same ideological scum that embraced Stalin, Mao and Pol Pot as movements and have betrayed all our most needful allies at their most fragile moments and realize how much these leftwing fascists hate America from their own statements, then you too can become immune by simply recognizing the insanity for what it is.

And have attacked all of our soldiers while propping up terrorists. Most of what they spew is fabricated with maybe 2% truth thrown in ( if you are lucky). They cannot be believed or taken seriously. Period. And if they are throwing out the moral high ground spiel... You know they are full of shit.
How nice. Broad brush and bashing liberal veterans all in one. Must be fun to think of the world in such simpleton terms.
this thread is dead. unless you all want to watch the circus of hate

You don't even have to pay for a ticket. And if you get bored here, there's a couple more threads on this family filled with nothing but raw hate.

my advice: stay away unless you want to puke


Stephanie, I am immune to libtard obnoxiousness. Once you realize that these are the same ideological scum that embraced Stalin, Mao and Pol Pot as movements and have betrayed all our most needful allies at their most fragile moments and realize how much these leftwing fascists hate America from their own statements, then you too can become immune by simply recognizing the insanity for what it is.

And have attacked all of our soldiers while propping up terrorists. Most of what they spew is fabricated with maybe 2% truth thrown in ( if you are lucky). They cannot be believed or taken seriously. Period. And if they are throwing out the moral high ground spiel... You know they are full of shit.
How nice. Broad brush and bashing liberal veterans all in one. Must be fun to think of the world in such simpleton terms.

How is telling the truth about liberals history of trashing the troops... Bashing liberal veterans?
if you didn't have children would it bother you less? the molesters I find amazing are the ones who have children themselves yet can somehow molest other children. Adeal Castro had kids yet kidnapped three young women and held them captive for 10 years

I watched a documentary about that case. Totally fucked up. How did no one know for 10 years? Neighbors,friends... No one. Unbelievable.
 
How nice. Broad brush and bashing liberal veterans all in one. Must be fun to think of the world in such simpleton terms.
How nice. Broad brush and bashing liberal veterans all in one. Must be fun to think of the world in such simpleton terms.

How is telling the truth about liberals history of trashing the troops... Bashing liberal veterans?

Because it's okay to use a broad brush when you are attacking conservatives. ;)
Nope. But let me let you in on a little secret....attacking ONE pedophile isn't using a broad brush. Glad to have been of help in that regard.

Your lib buzz word of the day "pedophile" doesn't work here. Although we know you all love labels.

Josh was a child not an adult.

"Pedophile" is what Harvey Milk was. An adult sexually attracted to children.
or Dennis Hastert Mark Foley? why did you go so far back and reference Harvey Milk when you have 2 more current pedophiles you could have referred to

Why do you care? He was a pedophile.
 
How is telling the truth about liberals history of trashing the troops... Bashing liberal veterans?

Because it's okay to use a broad brush when you are attacking conservatives. ;)
Nope. But let me let you in on a little secret....attacking ONE pedophile isn't using a broad brush. Glad to have been of help in that regard.

Your lib buzz word of the day "pedophile" doesn't work here. Although we know you all love labels.

Josh was a child not an adult.

"Pedophile" is what Harvey Milk was. An adult sexually attracted to children.
or Dennis Hastert Mark Foley? why did you go so far back and reference Harvey Milk when you have 2 more current pedophiles you could have referred to

Why do you care? He was a pedophile.
even though I'm not a child I have empathy for children not to mention I have two nephews I would kill for
 
Somewhere in all this, the fact that Josh admitted that he molested a babysitter, too. Has anyone even asked if she had counseling? Has she forgiven Josh? Why is it that I have a very strong feeling that money passed hands to keep that child silent?

All the time he was pointing fingers at gays and accusing them of being pedifiles, was he suffering any guilt, or was he just taking the money from the Family Research Council, and basking in his moral superiority? Come to think of it, one would expect that he should be making a public apology to gays as well, and asking their forgiveness, too.
 
Somewhere in all this, the fact that Josh admitted that he molested a babysitter, too. Has anyone even asked if she had counseling? Has she forgiven Josh? Why is it that I have a very strong feeling that money passed hands to keep that child silent?

All the time he was pointing fingers at gays and accusing them of being pedifiles, was he suffering any guilt, or was he just taking the money from the Family Research Council, and basking in his moral superiority? Come to think of it, one would expect that he should be making a public apology to gays as well, and asking their forgiveness, too.


And why has he been so silent? Why has he let his mommy, daddy and sisters take the brunt of this?

Josh owes a lot of apologies to a lot of people. He also needs to own up to being a liar and a hypocrite.
 
Blah, blah, blah goes the libtard spouting lies, distortions and bulls hit like every other libtard ideologue.

FACT: Josh was a child. Like it or not and children do stupid things from time to time. Thus the courts and society give them more leniency if they respond well to it. Josh did, so buzz off.

FACT: The parents handled it with love and sensitivity toward all their children. It is none of your god damned business how families handle internal issues involving minors as long as the police and courts are copacetic with it too.

FACT: The Duggar girls were past all this, having forgiven their brother and moved on until libtards like you dragged it all in the open for payback to Josh for opposing queer marriage. Ideological nut jobs like YOU are reviving old hurt, and reminding victims of very unpleasant experiences for political reasons that have nothing to do with the victims welfare and everyone can see that.

FACT: This got full court press when Huckabee publicly stated we should forgive Josh for something that happened twelve years ago and has not been repeated. That is called Christian forgiveness toward repentent sinners. It is none of your business but it does clearly demonstrate your bigotry against Christians and your hatred and bile.

So please, keep on going. You libtards are doing more to forge a tight Christian coalition in this country than all our own clergy could do if they tried! lol
Thank you for proving my point.

Lol, as if that lame school yard retort proves a damned thing! roflmao

Why are you libtards so damned stupid?
Because the things you list as "fact" are mostly subjective things. The things I listed are purely objective.

Now, go grab a dictionary and figure out what "objective" means.

I said, "FACT: Josh was a child....FACT: The parents handled it with love and sensitivity toward all their children....FACT: The Duggar girls were past all this, having forgiven their brother and moved on....FACT: This got full court press when Huckabee publicly stated we should forgive Josh for something that happened twelve years ago...."

Those are facts.

You said "FACT: the parents didn't do a goddamned thing about this....FACT: when they did send him away, it was to a cop-friend of the family....FACT: when first asked whether Josh really did receive counseling for his sexual misdeed, his parents blatantly lied and said he did....a judge ordered that the Duggar file be destroyed. This has happened so rarely that no one in the state can remember the last time it happened."

Those are all lies, distortions and supposition.

You don't know the difference between fact, fantasy or you own ass hole, a common libtard dysfunction.
You have no proof at all that his sisters have forgiven him. You seem to lie a lot. Actually, he was still sexually abusing his sisters, one of whom was FIVE at the time, when he was 15.

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Several times now they have publicly stated their forgiving their brother, you liar.

Lol, what would you libtards say if you had to be honest? Nothing; lies are all you got.
 
this thread is dead. unless you all want to watch the circus of hate

You don't even have to pay for a ticket. And if you get bored here, there's a couple more threads on this family filled with nothing but raw hate.

my advice: stay away unless you want to puke


Stephanie, I am immune to libtard obnoxiousness. Once you realize that these are the same ideological scum that embraced Stalin, Mao and Pol Pot as movements and have betrayed all our most needful allies at their most fragile moments and realize how much these leftwing fascists hate America from their own statements, then you too can become immune by simply recognizing the insanity for what it is.

And have attacked all of our soldiers while propping up terrorists. Most of what they spew is fabricated with maybe 2% truth thrown in ( if you are lucky). They cannot be believed or taken seriously. Period. And if they are throwing out the moral high ground spiel... You know they are full of shit.
How nice. Broad brush and bashing liberal veterans all in one. Must be fun to think of the world in such simpleton terms.

Often the Truth is simple enough, In this case it is; "libtards are lying bastards" and it goes all the way back at least to the left supporting Hitler because he signed a pact with Stalin, then 180ed when Hitler attacked Stalin.

You ideological zealots are lying scum, and people are waking up to that fact, especially after the Obama disaster.
 
How nice. Broad brush and bashing liberal veterans all in one. Must be fun to think of the world in such simpleton terms.
How nice. Broad brush and bashing liberal veterans all in one. Must be fun to think of the world in such simpleton terms.

How is telling the truth about liberals history of trashing the troops... Bashing liberal veterans?

Because it's okay to use a broad brush when you are attacking conservatives. ;)
Nope. But let me let you in on a little secret....attacking ONE pedophile isn't using a broad brush. Glad to have been of help in that regard.

Your lib buzz word of the day "pedophile" doesn't work here. Although we know you all love labels.

Josh was a child not an adult.

"Pedophile" is what Harvey Milk was. An adult sexually attracted to children.
Oh, that makes it so much better...and you might want to check for fact accuracy.....Harvey Milk wasn't a pedophile. But it apparently fits your narrative to say so.

Harvey Milk preyed on young teen boys, whatever you want to call that, Most people refer to it as pedophile, but you libtards like to split hairs if it obscures the issue under discussion whenever you can.

"Like many in the sacred (to moonbats) gay caste, Milk was drawn to the young — the illegally young: One of Milk’s victims was a 16-year-old runaway from Maryland named Jack Galen McKinley. As previously mentioned, Milk had a soft spot in his, um, heart for teenage runaways. Motivated by an apparent quid pro quo of prurience, Milk plucked McKinley from the street. Randy Shilts was a San Francisco Chronicle reporter and close friend to Harvey Milk. Though Shilts died of AIDS in 1994, he remains, even today, one of the most beloved journalists in the “LGBT” community. Shilts was also Harvey Milk’s biographer. In his glowing book “The Mayor of Castro Street,” he wrote of Milk’s “relationship” with the McKinley boy: ” … Sixteen-year-old McKinley was looking for some kind of father figure. … At 33, Milk was launching a new life, though he could hardly have imagined the unlikely direction toward which his new lover would pull him.”

McKinley later committed suicide. -

Moonbattery Liberal Demigod Harvey Milk Preyed on Troubled Underage Boys
 
Stephanie, I am immune to libtard obnoxiousness. Once you realize that these are the same ideological scum that embraced Stalin, Mao and Pol Pot as movements and have betrayed all our most needful allies at their most fragile moments and realize how much these leftwing fascists hate America from their own statements, then you too can become immune by simply recognizing the insanity for what it is.

And have attacked all of our soldiers while propping up terrorists. Most of what they spew is fabricated with maybe 2% truth thrown in ( if you are lucky). They cannot be believed or taken seriously. Period. And if they are throwing out the moral high ground spiel... You know they are full of shit.
How nice. Broad brush and bashing liberal veterans all in one. Must be fun to think of the world in such simpleton terms.
Stephanie, I am immune to libtard obnoxiousness. Once you realize that these are the same ideological scum that embraced Stalin, Mao and Pol Pot as movements and have betrayed all our most needful allies at their most fragile moments and realize how much these leftwing fascists hate America from their own statements, then you too can become immune by simply recognizing the insanity for what it is.

And have attacked all of our soldiers while propping up terrorists. Most of what they spew is fabricated with maybe 2% truth thrown in ( if you are lucky). They cannot be believed or taken seriously. Period. And if they are throwing out the moral high ground spiel... You know they are full of shit.
How nice. Broad brush and bashing liberal veterans all in one. Must be fun to think of the world in such simpleton terms.

How is telling the truth about liberals history of trashing the troops... Bashing liberal veterans?

Because it's okay to use a broad brush when you are attacking conservatives. ;)
Nope. But let me let you in on a little secret....attacking ONE pedophile isn't using a broad brush. Glad to have been of help in that regard.


Again you lie. Josh is not currently a pedophile and was a child at the time of his offense. By your logic a teen boy having sex with his teen age gf makes him a pedophile, lol, you are such a flipping idiot.
 
Somewhere in all this, the fact that Josh admitted that he molested a babysitter, too. Has anyone even asked if she had counseling? Has she forgiven Josh? Why is it that I have a very strong feeling that money passed hands to keep that child silent?

All the time he was pointing fingers at gays and accusing them of being pedifiles, was he suffering any guilt, or was he just taking the money from the Family Research Council, and basking in his moral superiority? Come to think of it, one would expect that he should be making a public apology to gays as well, and asking their forgiveness, too.


And why has he been so silent? Why has he let his mommy, daddy and sisters take the brunt of this?

Josh owes a lot of apologies to a lot of people. He also needs to own up to being a liar and a hypocrite.

He owned up to all of this years ago. Just because you learned about it yesterday... Doesn't mean everyone else needs to revisit the past.
 
And have attacked all of our soldiers while propping up terrorists. Most of what they spew is fabricated with maybe 2% truth thrown in ( if you are lucky). They cannot be believed or taken seriously. Period. And if they are throwing out the moral high ground spiel... You know they are full of shit.
How nice. Broad brush and bashing liberal veterans all in one. Must be fun to think of the world in such simpleton terms.
And have attacked all of our soldiers while propping up terrorists. Most of what they spew is fabricated with maybe 2% truth thrown in ( if you are lucky). They cannot be believed or taken seriously. Period. And if they are throwing out the moral high ground spiel... You know they are full of shit.
How nice. Broad brush and bashing liberal veterans all in one. Must be fun to think of the world in such simpleton terms.

How is telling the truth about liberals history of trashing the troops... Bashing liberal veterans?

Because it's okay to use a broad brush when you are attacking conservatives. ;)
Nope. But let me let you in on a little secret....attacking ONE pedophile isn't using a broad brush. Glad to have been of help in that regard.


Again you lie. Josh is not currently a pedophile and was a child at the time of his offense. By your logic a teen boy having sex with his teen age gf makes him a pedophile, lol, you are such a flipping idiot.

I hope Intouch gets shut down for violating Arkansas law to protect victims of sex crimes.

WHEW See what made Megyn Kelly YELL in defense of the Duggars The Right Scoop -
 
Thank you for proving my point.

Lol, as if that lame school yard retort proves a damned thing! roflmao

Why are you libtards so damned stupid?
Because the things you list as "fact" are mostly subjective things. The things I listed are purely objective.

Now, go grab a dictionary and figure out what "objective" means.

I said, "FACT: Josh was a child....FACT: The parents handled it with love and sensitivity toward all their children....FACT: The Duggar girls were past all this, having forgiven their brother and moved on....FACT: This got full court press when Huckabee publicly stated we should forgive Josh for something that happened twelve years ago...."

Those are facts.

You said "FACT: the parents didn't do a goddamned thing about this....FACT: when they did send him away, it was to a cop-friend of the family....FACT: when first asked whether Josh really did receive counseling for his sexual misdeed, his parents blatantly lied and said he did....a judge ordered that the Duggar file be destroyed. This has happened so rarely that no one in the state can remember the last time it happened."

Those are all lies, distortions and supposition.

You don't know the difference between fact, fantasy or you own ass hole, a common libtard dysfunction.
You have no proof at all that his sisters have forgiven him. You seem to lie a lot. Actually, he was still sexually abusing his sisters, one of whom was FIVE at the time, when he was 15.

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Several times now they have publicly stated their forgiving their brother, you liar.

Lol, what would you libtards say if you had to be honest? Nothing; lies are all you got.

That pretty much sums it up.
 
Somewhere in all this, the fact that Josh admitted that he molested a babysitter, too. Has anyone even asked if she had counseling? Has she forgiven Josh? Why is it that I have a very strong feeling that money passed hands to keep that child silent?

All the time he was pointing fingers at gays and accusing them of being pedifiles, was he suffering any guilt, or was he just taking the money from the Family Research Council, and basking in his moral superiority? Come to think of it, one would expect that he should be making a public apology to gays as well, and asking their forgiveness, too.


And why has he been so silent? Why has he let his mommy, daddy and sisters take the brunt of this?

Josh owes a lot of apologies to a lot of people. He also needs to own up to being a liar and a hypocrite.

He owned up to all of this years ago. Just because you learned about it yesterday... Doesn't mean everyone else needs to revisit the past.

Yep, he owned up to everyone except his employer, who fired him, the tv network, which discontinued his family's show, the shows sponsors, who withdrew their sponsorship, Oprah, who decided not to televise them, and the general public, who had been led to believe that they were the very essence of Christian family values, and to the cops, who they informed 2 years after the fact.

Yep, just an upfront kind of guy!
 
Somewhere in all this, the fact that Josh admitted that he molested a babysitter, too. Has anyone even asked if she had counseling? Has she forgiven Josh? Why is it that I have a very strong feeling that money passed hands to keep that child silent?

All the time he was pointing fingers at gays and accusing them of being pedifiles, was he suffering any guilt, or was he just taking the money from the Family Research Council, and basking in his moral superiority? Come to think of it, one would expect that he should be making a public apology to gays as well, and asking their forgiveness, too.


And why has he been so silent? Why has he let his mommy, daddy and sisters take the brunt of this?

Josh owes a lot of apologies to a lot of people. He also needs to own up to being a liar and a hypocrite.

He owned up to all of this years ago. Just because you learned about it yesterday... Doesn't mean everyone else needs to revisit the past.

Yep, he owned up to everyone except his employer, who fired him, the tv network, which discontinued his family's show, the shows sponsors, who withdrew their sponsorship, Oprah, who decided not to televise them, and the general public, who had been led to believe that they were the very essence of Christian family values, and to the cops, who they informed 2 years after the fact.

Yep, just an upfront kind of guy!

This all happened and was resolved 5 years before they were asked to do reality TV.

You have a point?
 
I was amused how the sisters blamed the media for making their lives miserable over what they considered a "closed issue". And how do I know this? Because they agreed to tell the media all about how the media is making their lives miserable. Somewhere in all this, I see reflections of Palin!

Their entire LIVES are in the media!

Somewhere in all this, the fact that Josh admitted that he molested a babysitter, too. Has anyone even asked if she had counseling? Has she forgiven Josh? Why is it that I have a very strong feeling that money passed hands to keep that child silent?

All the time he was pointing fingers at gays and accusing them of being pedifiles, was he suffering any guilt, or was he just taking the money from the Family Research Council, and basking in his moral superiority? Come to think of it, one would expect that he should be making a public apology to gays as well, and asking their forgiveness, too.


And why has he been so silent? Why has he let his mommy, daddy and sisters take the brunt of this?

Josh owes a lot of apologies to a lot of people. He also needs to own up to being a liar and a hypocrite.

He owned up to all of this years ago. Just because you learned about it yesterday... Doesn't mean everyone else needs to revisit the past.

Yep, he owned up to everyone except his employer, who fired him, the tv network, which discontinued his family's show, the shows sponsors, who withdrew their sponsorship, Oprah, who decided not to televise them, and the general public, who had been led to believe that they were the very essence of Christian family values, and to the cops, who they informed 2 years after the fact.

Yep, just an upfront kind of guy!

Yes I do. my point is that their entire image is a fraud which, had they revealed it to the producers, the sponsors, the network, to Oprah, to the Family Research Center, nobody would have ever heard of them, because they would not have had a show to begin with.

This all happened and was resolved 5 years before they were asked to do reality TV.

You have a point?

Yes, I do. Their entire image is a fraud. if they had revealed this to their producers, their sponsors, their network, to the Family Research Council, and to the anyone else who was willing to provide money for their reality show, they never would have even been put on the air.
 
I was amused how the sisters blamed the media for making their lives miserable over what they considered a "closed issue". And how do I know this? Because they agreed to tell the media all about how the media is making their lives miserable. Somewhere in all this, I see reflections of Palin!

Their entire LIVES are in the media!

Somewhere in all this, the fact that Josh admitted that he molested a babysitter, too. Has anyone even asked if she had counseling? Has she forgiven Josh? Why is it that I have a very strong feeling that money passed hands to keep that child silent?

All the time he was pointing fingers at gays and accusing them of being pedifiles, was he suffering any guilt, or was he just taking the money from the Family Research Council, and basking in his moral superiority? Come to think of it, one would expect that he should be making a public apology to gays as well, and asking their forgiveness, too.


And why has he been so silent? Why has he let his mommy, daddy and sisters take the brunt of this?

Josh owes a lot of apologies to a lot of people. He also needs to own up to being a liar and a hypocrite.

He owned up to all of this years ago. Just because you learned about it yesterday... Doesn't mean everyone else needs to revisit the past.

Yep, he owned up to everyone except his employer, who fired him, the tv network, which discontinued his family's show, the shows sponsors, who withdrew their sponsorship, Oprah, who decided not to televise them, and the general public, who had been led to believe that they were the very essence of Christian family values, and to the cops, who they informed 2 years after the fact.

Yep, just an upfront kind of guy!

Yes I do. my point is that their entire image is a fraud which, had they revealed it to the producers, the sponsors, the network, to Oprah, to the Family Research Center, nobody would have ever heard of them, because they would not have had a show to begin with.

This all happened and was resolved 5 years before they were asked to do reality TV.

You have a point?

Did you mean to quote me? I don't see a reply here. Something got messed up with your quote reply.
 
How is telling the truth about liberals history of trashing the troops... Bashing liberal veterans?

Because it's okay to use a broad brush when you are attacking conservatives. ;)
Nope. But let me let you in on a little secret....attacking ONE pedophile isn't using a broad brush. Glad to have been of help in that regard.

Your lib buzz word of the day "pedophile" doesn't work here. Although we know you all love labels.

Josh was a child not an adult.

"Pedophile" is what Harvey Milk was. An adult sexually attracted to children.
Oh, that makes it so much better...and you might want to check for fact accuracy.....Harvey Milk wasn't a pedophile. But it apparently fits your narrative to say so.

Harvey Milk preyed on young teen boys, whatever you want to call that, Most people refer to it as pedophile, but you libtards like to split hairs if it obscures the issue under discussion whenever you can.

"Like many in the sacred (to moonbats) gay caste, Milk was drawn to the young — the illegally young: One of Milk’s victims was a 16-year-old runaway from Maryland named Jack Galen McKinley. As previously mentioned, Milk had a soft spot in his, um, heart for teenage runaways. Motivated by an apparent quid pro quo of prurience, Milk plucked McKinley from the street. Randy Shilts was a San Francisco Chronicle reporter and close friend to Harvey Milk. Though Shilts died of AIDS in 1994, he remains, even today, one of the most beloved journalists in the “LGBT” community. Shilts was also Harvey Milk’s biographer. In his glowing book “The Mayor of Castro Street,” he wrote of Milk’s “relationship” with the McKinley boy: ” … Sixteen-year-old McKinley was looking for some kind of father figure. … At 33, Milk was launching a new life, though he could hardly have imagined the unlikely direction toward which his new lover would pull him.”

McKinley later committed suicide. -

Moonbattery Liberal Demigod Harvey Milk Preyed on Troubled Underage Boys
Tu quoque, tu quoque...

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How is telling the truth about liberals history of trashing the troops... Bashing liberal veterans?

Because it's okay to use a broad brush when you are attacking conservatives. ;)
Nope. But let me let you in on a little secret....attacking ONE pedophile isn't using a broad brush. Glad to have been of help in that regard.

Your lib buzz word of the day "pedophile" doesn't work here. Although we know you all love labels.

Josh was a child not an adult.

"Pedophile" is what Harvey Milk was. An adult sexually attracted to children.
or Dennis Hastert Mark Foley? why did you go so far back and reference Harvey Milk when you have 2 more current pedophiles you could have referred to

Why do you care? He was a pedophile.
He was not. And you're saying it over and over doesn't make it true.
 
Somewhere in all this, the fact that Josh admitted that he molested a babysitter, too. Has anyone even asked if she had counseling? Has she forgiven Josh? Why is it that I have a very strong feeling that money passed hands to keep that child silent?

All the time he was pointing fingers at gays and accusing them of being pedifiles, was he suffering any guilt, or was he just taking the money from the Family Research Council, and basking in his moral superiority? Come to think of it, one would expect that he should be making a public apology to gays as well, and asking their forgiveness, too.


And why has he been so silent? Why has he let his mommy, daddy and sisters take the brunt of this?

Josh owes a lot of apologies to a lot of people. He also needs to own up to being a liar and a hypocrite.

He owned up to all of this years ago. Just because you learned about it yesterday... Doesn't mean everyone else needs to revisit the past.

Yep, he owned up to everyone except his employer, who fired him, the tv network, which discontinued his family's show, the shows sponsors, who withdrew their sponsorship, Oprah, who decided not to televise them, and the general public, who had been led to believe that they were the very essence of Christian family values, and to the cops, who they informed 2 years after the fact.

Yep, just an upfront kind of guy!

This all happened and was resolved 5 years before they were asked to do reality TV.

You have a point?
What a lie.
 

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