Another Progressive Fable Bites The Dust

[PoliticalChic]

1. A number of times I have responded to liars claiming that Israel stole the land from the poor terrorists....er, Arabs,.....with documented proof that it was purchased, often from Palestinians who were then killed for the sale by their brethren.
Pipes just wrote it in the WSJ.

"Israel Is the Least-Stolen Land​

Jews lacked the power to fight the Ottoman or British empires, so they purchased land, acre by acre, in voluntary transactions. Opinion | Israel Is the Least-Stolen Land​

....“conquest and migration have shaped the entire world.” So far as I know, only one country was purchased rather than conquered. Ironically, that country is also the one most accused of having “stolen” the land it now controls. That country is Israel.

The making of the Jewish state represents perhaps history’s most peaceable in-migration and state creation. Zionist efforts long had a near-exclusively mercantile, not military, quality. Jews lacked the power to fight the Ottoman or British empires, so they purchased land, acre by acre, in voluntary transactions.
Only when the British withdrew from Palestine in 1948, followed immediately by an all-out attempt by Arab states to crush the nascent Israel, did Israelis take up the sword in self-defense and go on to win land through military conquest. By then, however, this exceptional polity had already existed through purchase."

Daniel Pipes
Middle East Forum




I'd say that this fits the narrative that Democrats lie about everything.

 

[Sixties Fan]

1. A number of times I have responded to liars claiming that Israel stole the land from the poor terrorists....er, Arabs,.....with documented proof that it was purchased, often from Palestinians who were then killed for the sale by their brethren.
Pipes just wrote it in the WSJ.

"Israel Is the Least-Stolen Land​

Jews lacked the power to fight the Ottoman or British empires, so they purchased land, acre by acre, in voluntary transactions. Opinion | Israel Is the Least-Stolen Land​

....“conquest and migration have shaped the entire world.” So far as I know, only one country was purchased rather than conquered. Ironically, that country is also the one most accused of having “stolen” the land it now controls. That country is Israel.

The making of the Jewish state represents perhaps history’s most peaceable in-migration and state creation. Zionist efforts long had a near-exclusively mercantile, not military, quality. Jews lacked the power to fight the Ottoman or British empires, so they purchased land, acre by acre, in voluntary transactions.
Only when the British withdrew from Palestine in 1948, followed immediately by an all-out attempt by Arab states to crush the nascent Israel, did Israelis take up the sword in self-defense and go on to win land through military conquest. By then, however, this exceptional polity had already existed through purchase."

Daniel Pipes
Middle East Forum




I'd say that this fits the narrative that Democrats lie about everything.

I would say that many Democrats are misinformed because of the sources they choose to read or watch, but many do know the History of the land and are Pro Israel.

It would be nice if one would not generalize the Democrats, as one cannot also generalize the Republicans.

Also, Jews got to purchase some of the land via the Jewish agency, post 1850s. Not all.

Unfortunately Al Husseini and his clan muddled the mind of the Muslims in the area and started a war against the rebuilt of the Jewish nation. Some Jews were already armed, for protection, and more weapons were purchased to protect all others who needed it against attacks by Arabs.

Not all had weapons, which may be what happened in 1929 in Hebron.

But there were definitely more weapons for the 1936-1939 attack on Jews and later when the 7 Arab countries, or five, attacked after Independence Day.

 

[PoliticalChic]

I would say that many Democrats are misinformed because of the sources they choose to read or watch, but many do know the History of the land and are Pro Israel.

It would be nice if one would not generalize the Democrats, as one cannot also generalize the Republicans.

Let's check:

"Tensions Among Democrats Grow Over Israel as the Left Defends Palestinians​

Divisions within the party have burst into public view, with the party’s ascendant left viewing the Mideast conflict as a searing racial justice issue that carries echoes of U.S. politics."

Tensions Among Democrats Grow Over Israel as the Left Defends Palestinians (Published 2021)

Divisions within the party have burst into public view, with the party’s ascendant left viewing the Mideast conflict as a searing racial justice issue that carries echoes of U.S. politics.

www.nytimes.com

Don't be oblivious: the number one foreign policy aim of the Democrat Party is to guarantee nuclear weapons to the world's worst state sponsor of terrorism so that they can slaughter every Jew and Israeli there.

 

[Sixties Fan]

Let's check:

"Tensions Among Democrats Grow Over Israel as the Left Defends Palestinians​

Divisions within the party have burst into public view, with the party’s ascendant left viewing the Mideast conflict as a searing racial justice issue that carries echoes of U.S. politics."

Tensions Among Democrats Grow Over Israel as the Left Defends Palestinians (Published 2021)

Divisions within the party have burst into public view, with the party’s ascendant left viewing the Mideast conflict as a searing racial justice issue that carries echoes of U.S. politics.

www.nytimes.com

Don't be oblivious: the number one foreign policy aim of the Democrat Party is to guarantee nuclear weapons to the world's worst state sponsor of terrorism so that they can slaughter every Jew and Israeli there.

As I said, some are informed, but not all.

My question is:

What is being done to properly inform those Democrats and have them stop getting their news from where they are clearly getting them?

 

[PoliticalChic]

As I said, some are informed, but not all.

My question is:

What is being done to properly inform those Democrats and have them stop getting their news from where they are clearly getting them?

I guess you insist on being oblivious.


When one votes, are there two levers, one "Democrat" and the other "Democrat but informed"????


Vote Democrat and you vote to support the lie about Israel, and a nuclear Iran, and these doctrines:


The Democrat Party is now running on full-blown anti-white racism,

socialism,

infanticide,

opposition to free speech,

standing with criminals and felons rather than law-abiding citizens

substituting illegal alien voters for the American citizenry,

support for rioters, arsonists, murderers, and anarchists,

accepting payment from Communist China for future considerations,

and anti-Semitism… the knuckle-dragging, atavistic pagan party.

 

[Sixties Fan]

I guess you insist on being oblivious.


When one votes, are there two levers, one "Democrat" and the other "Democrat but informed"????


Vote Democrat and you vote to support the lie about Israel, and a nuclear Iran, and these doctrines:


The Democrat Party is now running on full-blown anti-white racism,

socialism,

infanticide,

opposition to free speech,

standing with criminals and felons rather than law-abiding citizens

substituting illegal alien voters for the American citizenry,

support for rioters, arsonists, murderers, and anarchists,

accepting payment from Communist China for future considerations,

and anti-Semitism… the knuckle-dragging, atavistic pagan party.

Thank you.

I know where you got all of this disinformation on the Democratic Party.


But, no thanks.

This thread belongs in two places:

First part on the article with Daniel Pipes belongs in the thread :

The NEWER Official Discussion Thread for the creation of Israel, the UN and the British Mandate

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Second part :

"I'd say that this fits the narrative that Democrats lie about everything."

Belongs on any other thread discussing the Democratic Party in the Politics Forum.

 

[Delldude]

Let's check:

"Tensions Among Democrats Grow Over Israel as the Left Defends Palestinians​

Divisions within the party have burst into public view, with the party’s ascendant left viewing the Mideast conflict as a searing racial justice issue that carries echoes of U.S. politics."

Tensions Among Democrats Grow Over Israel as the Left Defends Palestinians (Published 2021)

Divisions within the party have burst into public view, with the party’s ascendant left viewing the Mideast conflict as a searing racial justice issue that carries echoes of U.S. politics.

www.nytimes.com

Don't be oblivious: the number one foreign policy aim of the Democrat Party is to guarantee nuclear weapons to the world's worst state sponsor of terrorism so that they can slaughter every Jew and Israeli there.

Love it when they say " Oh, I support Israel' then later say they 'support BDS'.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Thank you.

I know where you got all of this disinformation on the Democratic Party.


But, no thanks.

This thread belongs in two places:

First part on the article with Daniel Pipes belongs in the thread :

The NEWER Official Discussion Thread for the creation of Israel, the UN and the British Mandate

This thread was created in order to attempt to fix the significant derailment of another thread without having to delete posts. The topic of this thread is one that comes up with regularity in IP, and is also a frequent derailer of active threads so it will now have a thread of it's own which...

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Second part :

"I'd say that this fits the narrative that Democrats lie about everything."

Belongs on any other thread discussing the Democratic Party in the Politics Forum.

Nothing I posted is "disinformation."


I challenge you to either prove your lie, or admit you are a liar, and apologize.

 

[Sixties Fan]

Nothing I posted is "disinformation."



I challenge you to either prove your lie, or admit you are a liar.

Get a life.

I am not telling lies, and I am not the one who has the disprove your allegations based of some extreme Democrats, where you want to generalize all Democrats in congress and voters as being anti Israel, or antisemitic.

You are reaping what you sawed listening to all the Evangelical nuts and other nuts on the Republican side, the past 5 to 6 years.

 

[Sixties Fan]

Democrats lie about everything.


Check for yourself:


Let's let normal folks determine if these Democrat pronoucements were lies and hoaxes.


“… I would like to call attention to the principle of jurisprudence “Falsus in uno, falsus in omnibus” (False in one thing, false in all). Although written in Latin, it’s English common law from the early 17th century, stating that “a witness who testifies falsely about one matter is not credible to testify about any matter.”

Durham Reveals Democrats Behaving Like KGB; Is More Coming?​

Commentary John Durham, the man chosen by former Attorney General William Barr as special counsel to unearth possible ...

www.theepochtimes.com

There are sooooo very many lies on which the Left's politics and promises are built.
One can take his pick....that there is systemic racism, the election was fair, illegals don't vote, gun control is aimed at criminals, CRT isn't taught in government school, welfare stops starvation, the Democrat's flipped and the Republicans became the party of racism, Nazis were rightwing, Liberals founded this nation, Hillary is the smartest woman in the country and Bill Clinton ever had a budget surplus, women have a right to kill their unborn, women get paid less for the same job.....and "1 in 5 women being sexually assaulted while in college."



Democrats lie about everything….on what basis would any of their fabricated data be considered valid???
Here the prism through which every Democrat pronouncement should be viewed: First collusion, collusion, collusion, Russia, Russia, Russia, Obstruction, Obstruction, Obstruction. Racist, Racist, Racist, Impeach, Impeach, Impeach, Recession, Recession, Recession, Emoluments, 25th amendment, “HandsUpDon’tShoot,”Stormy Daniels, lies about Charlottesville fine Nazis, Kurds, Ukraine, Quid Pro Quo, ‘lynching,’ the Kavanaugh hoax, the GAO charges, Lev Parnas, impeachment, coronavirus ‘hoax,’ General Flynn perjury trap, no evidence of voter fraud in the stolen election.....and “More than 50 former intelligence officials signed a letter casting doubt on the provenance of a New York Post story on the former vice president's son."



Don’t forget the Democrats told you that Trump was colluding with Russia…and that wasn’t true. They also told you that so was Naval Academy grad Carter Page and so was George Papadopoulos and so was General Michael Flynn, a three star general and former director of the Defense Intelligence Agency….and all of that was a lie. How stupid must one be to keep believing what they say?
...and, and that ‘armed insurrection’ that never occurred, and AOC lying about her near-death experience in the Capitol Riots.....when she wasn't even in the Capitol. And, of course the 275 Democrat inspired riots were ‘mostly peaceful.’

And that Biden voters as agents provocateur weren't behind the Capitol Riot.....and that Pelosi knew and refused to allow extra security. They lie about everything.......yet Democrat voters are, ready to swallow the next lie.

And that the Wuhan Red Death did not come from a Chinese Communist lab that got its funding via Dr. Fauci, and its purpose was to remove Trump….

FakeStories: Three years of Russian Collusion stories; altering documents at the DoJ and FBI to railroad political opponents; the state media burying the Hunter Biden Scandal what with Joe getting 10% of the bribes; stories about Kavanaugh rape parties, and Covington Catholic School; Carter Page working for Russia when he was actually working for the CIA….where were those ‘fact checkers’? The great lie that there was an ‘insurrection’ January 6th. The lie that it was Republicans who wanted to defund the police. The lie that Critical Race Theory wasn’t being taught. The lie that 600,000 died from the Wuhan Red Death.
What should you do when they lied to you at least these 30 times already???????????

Democrats claimed it was Republicans who demanded defunding the police, AOC claimed ten people were killed Jan6th, Ilhan Omar blames the police for crime, they claimed that CRT wasn’t being taught in government school, men can become pregnant, and MAGA fans attacked Jussie Smollett, inflation due to Putin and the invasion…

• Brett Kavanaugh — Serial Rapist
• President Michael Avenatti
• The Covington KKKids Hoax
• Hands Up, Don’t Shoot
• George Zimmerman
• Mostly Peaceful Black Lives Matter Riots
• The Russia Collusion Hoax
• Antifa Stormed the Beaches on D-Day
• Cuomo (D-NY): King of Coronavirus Competence
• The Clearing of Lafayette Square Hoax
• The Lab Leak Theory Has Been Debunked Hoax
• The Russians Are Behind Hunter’s Laptop Hoax
• The Russian Bounty Hoax
• The Capitol Police Officer Killed with a Fire Extinguisher Hoax
• The Very Fine People Hoax
• Men Can Magically Transform into Women
• And on and on and on…

…what is the point of watching any corporate media outlet? All they do is lie. Even if you are an NPR wine mom, you do not want to be serially lied to.
The era of corporate media influence is ending thanks to the over the top bias, and that should be good for the future. Americans are rebelling against these exposed frauds, and 2022 should be a turning point."
Mark Simone 710




Add the lie about Israel stealing the land.

You have posted this thread in the wrong forum.

 

[surada]

1. A number of times I have responded to liars claiming that Israel stole the land from the poor terrorists....er, Arabs,.....with documented proof that it was purchased, often from Palestinians who were then killed for the sale by their brethren.
Pipes just wrote it in the WSJ.

"Israel Is the Least-Stolen Land​

Jews lacked the power to fight the Ottoman or British empires, so they purchased land, acre by acre, in voluntary transactions. Opinion | Israel Is the Least-Stolen Land​

....“conquest and migration have shaped the entire world.” So far as I know, only one country was purchased rather than conquered. Ironically, that country is also the one most accused of having “stolen” the land it now controls. That country is Israel.

The making of the Jewish state represents perhaps history’s most peaceable in-migration and state creation. Zionist efforts long had a near-exclusively mercantile, not military, quality. Jews lacked the power to fight the Ottoman or British empires, so they purchased land, acre by acre, in voluntary transactions.
Only when the British withdrew from Palestine in 1948, followed immediately by an all-out attempt by Arab states to crush the nascent Israel, did Israelis take up the sword in self-defense and go on to win land through military conquest. By then, however, this exceptional polity had already existed through purchase."

Daniel Pipes
Middle East Forum




I'd say that this fits the narrative that Democrats lie about everything.

Daniel Pipes is a propagandist. The Arabs fought the Ottomans. The Jews were given land.

 

[Delldude]

You have posted this thread in the wrong forum.

Does it matter...it is the truth no matter where it's posted.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Get a life.

I am not telling lies, and I am not the one who has the disprove your allegations based of some extreme Democrats, where you want to generalize all Democrats in congress and voters as being anti Israel, or antisemitic.

You are reaping what you sawed listening to all the Evangelical nuts and other nuts on the Republican side, the past 5 to 6 years.

Stop dancing and answer the question: can you dispute anything I posted?


Otherwise.....you're a liar.


The Democrat Party is now running on full-blown anti-white racism,

socialism,

infanticide,

opposition to free speech,

standing with criminals and felons rather than law-abiding citizens

substituting illegal alien voters for the American citizenry,

support for rioters, arsonists, murderers, and anarchists,

accepting payment from Communist China for future considerations,

and anti-Semitism… the knuckle-dragging, atavistic pagan party.

Now......which is your favorite?

 

[Delldude]

Daniel Pipes is a propagandist. The Arabs fought the Ottomans. The Jews were given land.

Pipes is only a propagandist if you don't want to hear what he is saying.
Democrats, by your metric, are propagandists also.

 

[PoliticalChic]

You have posted this thread in the wrong forum.

We've proven that you are both a liar and a coward who won't confront the lies of the party.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Daniel Pipes is a propagandist. The Arabs fought the Ottomans. The Jews were given land.

"The Jews were given land."


Both the King of Jordan, and I, call you a lying scum.




One would expect to see commonplace examples of Jews stealing, strong-arming, swindling, blackmailing; basically resorting to any trick up their sleeve to pry land out of Arab hands. In reality, the Jewish technique of accumulating land was simple ... they bought it. Both the concern and the complaints of Jews dispossessing Arabs centered on how much land the Jews were purchasing, not stealing, from land owners:

• The British investigation into the Arab riots during 1936-39 identifies "Arab alarm at the continued Jewish purchase of land"1, not Jewish theft of land, as one of the motivating factors.

• "Conversely, the main Ottoman and Arab complaint against the Zionists was about land sales..."2

• "Meanwhile, Jewish land purchase continued apace, exacerbating Palestinian disquiet."3

• "Arab discontent on account of Jewish immigration and the sale of lands to Jews which has been a permanent feature of political opinion in Palestine for the past ten years, began to show signs of renewed activity from the beginning of 1933, developing in intensity until it reached a climax in the riots of October and November."4

• "In the beginning of the 1930s, the national value of the land and its transfer from one people to the other became one of the main issues in the political conflict between the two communities. The Arabs insisted that His Majesty's Government put an end to land purchase by the Jews, claiming that it threatened their national existence."5

• "Though they had profited from the enhanced trade and employment opportunities generated by the new Jewish settlements, Palestinian Arabs had grown increasingly concerned about the rise of Jewish immigration and land purchases."

6

• "An article published in July 1911 by Mustafa Effendi Tamr, a teacher of mathematics at a Jerusalem school" reads, "You are selling the property of your fathers and grandfathers for a pittance to people who will have no pity on you, to those who will act to expel you and expunge your memory from your habitations and disperse you among the nations. This is a crime that will be recorded in your names in history, a black stain and disgrace that your descendants will bear, which will not be expunged even after years and eras have gone by. ... Opposition to land sales was one of the principal focal points around which the Arab national idea in Palestine coalesced."

7

• "Of course, the Zionists bought the land from Arab landholders, who moved to cities or even left the country. They were all too willing to sell, for the price paid by the purchasers was often many times more than anyone else would or could pay."

32

• King Abdallah of Jordan complains several times in his memoirs about Jews acquiring land in Palestine. Not once does he accuse the Jews of stealing it from the Arabs. Each time he mentions it, the complaint is how much land they are buying:
  • "... the fears of the Arab political leaders are supported by the fact that the sale of land continues unrestricted and every day one piece of land after another is torn from the hands of the Arabs.

8

• "According to my information the Jews have requested the continuance of the mandate so that they can buy up more land and bring in additional immigrants. No other country has gone through such a trial as Palestine."

9

• "Or are you among those who believe that there is no harm in continuing the present deleterious mandate despite the Jewish usurpers it has brought and despite the demonstrated inability of those Palestinians now at the political helm to prevent their compatriots from selling their land? Furthermore, it is made quite clear to all, both by the map drawn up by the Simpson Commission and by another compiled by the Peel Commission, that the Arabs are as prodigal in selling their land as they are in useless wailing and weeping."

10

• "‘Know each of you that in the end every Arab who sells land of the Arab patrimony or who pimps for the Jews will soon receive his due, which is certain death.’ The placards were signed by an organization calling itself ‘Revenge.’ ‘Our problem is the outcome of the sale of our land. The amazing thing is that we sell to the Jews and then scream and wail and ask for the government’s help,’"11

• "The land policy of the Zionist movement in the pre-state era was based on purchase of land on the open market by Jewish institutions (mainly the JNF) and subsequent freezing of the ownership so as to ensure that the purchased land would be in Jewish hands in perpetuity."33

Not only was the land being legally purchased, it was being purchased at drastically inflated prices. Arab land owners were making a killing selling their land during the waves of Jewish immigration in the late 19th and early 20th centuries. Despite the animosity against selling land to Jews coming from elitist Arabs, it simply made good economic sense for landlords to sell while they could exploit the thriving market Jewish demand was creating. Sometimes the land being purchased was nothing more than sand dune, malarial swamps and marshes, or other unattractive plots of waste. Even so, it was payday for many landlords; a day many hadn't seen in a long time and one that wouldn't come again:

• "Until 1936 ... the Jews acquired about 25,000 dunam in the Beit-Shean Valley ... The soil was of the poorest quality, in scattered parcels of land, and it was impossible to establish even one settlement on it. The Jewish purchasers paid the full price for these lands; in addition the Government compelled them to cover all the outstanding debts that the sellers had accumulated. (In most cases not one penny of these bad debts had been paid for years.)"12

• "The Jewish authorities have nothing with which to reproach themselves in the matter of the Sursock lands. They paid high prices for the land, and in addition they paid to certain of the occupants of those lands a considerable amount of money which they were not legally bound to pay."13

• "He [the Arab] may sell his land for a fantastic price and add to the congestion in the other zones by moving there. An Arab living a short distance away, just across the zone boundary, cannot obtain anything approximating the same sum for land of equal quality.”14

• "The Jews were paying exorbitant prices to wealthy landowners for small tracts of arid land. “In 1944, Jews paid between $1,000 and $1,100 per acre in Palestine, mostly for arid or semiarid land; in the same year, rich black soil in Iowa was selling for about $110 per acre."15

• "The settlers were ready to pay much more than the economic value of the land. The same or better land is available a few kilometers to the east or north of the Palestine frontiers at one tenth or less of the Palestinian price."16

• “Between 1880 and 1914 over sixty thousand Jews entered Palestine … Many settled on wasteland, sand-dunes and malarial marsh, which they then drained, irrigated and farmed. In 1909 a group of Jews founded the first entirely Jewish town, Tel Aviv, on the sandhills north of Jaffa. The Jews purchased their land piecemeal, from European, Turkish and (principally) Arab landlords, mostly at extremely high prices.”17

• “By 1925 over 2,600 Jews had settled in the [Jezreel] valley, and 3,000 acres of barren hillside had been afforested. This previously uncultivated land, bought at highly inflated prices, became the pattern of all subsequent Jewish National Fund settlements in Palestine.”18

• "In his 'note of reservations' to the Report of the Woodhead Commission, Sir Alison Russel says: 'It does not appear to me that to permit an Arab to sell his land for three or four times its value, and to go with the money to a different part of the Arab world where land is cheap, can be said to "prejudice" his rights and position.'"19

• "The average price paid by Jews for the rural land they bought in Palestine during 1944 amounted to over $1000 per acre or about $250 per dunam (including the value of buildings, orchards and other improvements). These prices are, of course, highly inflated …"20

• "... land brokers sometimes purchased their shares or parcels at a very low price and sold them at ten and twenty multiples to Jewish buyers. Peasants who were in musha' villages were particularly incensed at landlords, land brokers, or agents after learning that they had been swindled."21

• "Aharon Danin of KKL told of an interesting conversation he had at the beginning of the 1940s with Khaled Zu’bi (brother of Sayf al-Din), who helped him buy land in the Zu’biyya villages east of Nazareth: He [Zu’bi] said, ‘Look, who knows better than me that your work is pure. You pay money for everything, top dollar, many times more than what the land is worth. But that doesn’t change the fact that you are dispossessing us. You are dispossessing us with money, not by force, but the fact is that we are leaving the land.’ I say to him: ‘You are from this Zu’biyya tribe which is located here, in Transjordan, and in Syria, what difference does it make to you where you are, if you are here or if you and your family are there? …’ He said: ‘It’s hard for me to tell you, but in any case the graves of my forefathers are here. I feel that we are leaving this place. It’s our fault and not yours.’"30

Footnotes:
1 Great Britain, and William Robert Wellesley Peel Peel. Palestine Royal Commission Report. London: H.M. Stationery Office, 1937.
2 Western Imperialism in the Middle East 1914 - 1958 by D. K. Fieldhouse, Pg. 125
3 Palestine and Israel: The Uprising and Beyond by David McDowall, Pg. 23
4 Report by His Majesty's Government in the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland to the Council of the League of Nations of the Administration of Palestine and Trans-Jordan, 31 December 1933
5 "The Tenants of Wadi Hawarith: Another View of the Land Question in Palestine" by Raya Adler,International Journal of Middle East Studies, Vol. 20, No. 2. (May, 1988), pg. 199.
6 Oren, Michael. Power, Faith, and Fantasy: America in the Middle East, 1776 to the PresentPg. 368
7 Cohen, Hillel. Army of Shadows: Palestinian Collaboration with Zionism, 1917-1948. Berkeley: University of California Press, 2008. 45
8 King Abdallah of Jordan, My Memoirs Completed (Al-Takmilah), Pg. 81. In a letter written to the High Commissioner for Transjordan, Sir Arthur Wauchope on July 25, 1934.
9 King Abdallah of Jordan, My Memoirs Completed (Al-Takmilah), Pg. 88. In a letter written to 'Abd al-Hamid Sa'id on June 5, 1938.
10 King Abdallah of Jordan, My Memoirs Completed (Al-Takmilah), Pp. 88-89. In a letter written to 'Abd al-Hamid Sa'id on June 5, 1938.
11 Cohen, Hillel. Army of Shadows: Palestinian Collaboration with Zionism, 1917-1948. Berkeley: University of California Press, 2008. 219-220.
12 Avneri, Aryeh L. The Claim of Dispossession: Jewish Land-Settlement and the Arabs 1878-1948. Efal, Israel: Yad Tabenkin, 1982. 168.
13 Hope Simpson Report, Pg. 51
14 Anglo-American Committee of Inquiry, Chapter I
15 Bard, Mitchell G. Myths and Facts: A Guide to the Arab-Israeli Conflict. 2006. 19.
16 Jewish Colonisataion and Arab Development in Palestine by David Horowitz, Central Zionist Archives, Record Group S90/File 76, 7 October 1945
17 Gilbert, Martin, and Martin Gilbert. The Routledge Atlas of the Arab-Israeli Conflict. London: Routledge, 2002. 3.
18 Gilbert, Martin, and Martin Gilbert. The Routledge Atlas of the Arab-Israeli Conflict. London: Routledge, 2002. 12.
19 Schechtman, Joseph B. Population Transfers in Asia. New York: Hallsby Press, 1949. 101
20 Schechtman, Joseph B. Population Transfers in Asia. New York: Hallsby Press, 1949. 112
21 Stein, Kenneth W. One Hundred Years of Social Change: The Creation of the Palestinian Refugee Problem. 1991.
22 Stein, Kenneth W. One Hundred Years of Social Change: The Creation of the Palestinian Refugee Problem. 1991.
23 Report by His Majesty's Government in the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland to the Council of the League of Nations of the Administration of Palestine and Trans-Jordan, 31 December 1933
24 The Tenants of Wadi Hawarith: Another View of the Land Question in Palestine by Raya Adler,International Journal of Middle East Studies, Vol. 20, No. 2. (May, 1988), pg. 197.
25 The Tenants of Wadi Hawarith: Another View of the Land Question in Palestine by Raya Adler,International Journal of Middle East Studies, Vol. 20, No. 2. (May, 1988), pg. 215.
26 Morris, Benny. 1948: A History of the First Arab-Israeli War. New Haven [Conn.]: Yale University Press, 2008 14
27 Morris, Benny. 1948: A History of the First Arab-Israeli War. New Haven [Conn.]: Yale University Press, 2008 83
28 Cohen, Hillel. Army of Shadows: Palestinian Collaboration with Zionism, 1917-1948. Berkeley: University of California Press, 2008. 225.
29 Cohen, Hillel. Army of Shadows: Palestinian Collaboration with Zionism, 1917-1948. Berkeley: University of California Press, 2008. 173.
30 Cohen, Hillel. Army of Shadows: Palestinian Collaboration with Zionism, 1917-1948. Berkeley: University of California Press, 2008. 200.

Middle East Piece - Jewish Land Purchase and Dispossession

Jewish Land Acquisition and Dispossession in Palestine

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[PoliticalChic]

Palestinian killed in Israel after accusations of selling land ...timesofisrael.com› palestinian-killed-in-israel-after-accusations-of-selling-land-to-jews-report
December 8, 2018 - A Palestinian man killed in an Arab Israeli town over the weekend was involved in the sale of West Bank land to Jews, Palestinian media reported Saturday.




Arab's Death (and the Selling of Land to Jews) - The New York Timesnytimes.com› 1997 › 05 › 12 › world › arab-s-death-and-the-selling-of-land-to-jews.html

May 12, 1997 - Israeli and Palestinian police are investigating murder of Farid Bashiti, 70-year-old Palestinian real estate broker whose body was found bound and bludgeoned on road in Ramallah; are trying to determine whether he was slain in business dispute or because he sold land to Jews--act recently ...



Selling Land to Jewsslate.com› news-and-politics › 1997 › 05 › selling-land-to-jews.html
May 18, 1997 - Last week, a 70-year-old Palestinian real-estate dealer was murdered after he violated a new edict by the Palestinian Authority making the sale of...

 

[Sixties Fan]

There is no better supporter of Isreal than I, but it doesn't mean I won't put you in your place when I decide you deserve it.

The beatings will continue until I see the light of learning on your part….and then they will continue for the sheer joy of it.

I must agree with you that ALL Democrats are anti Israel or else?

Because that is the premise of your thread.

There is no truth to it and I had, and have, every right to give my opinion and show proof of it wherever it exists.

You are about bullying and beating what down anyone's throat?


Are ALL Democrats anti Israel?

YES or NO ???

 

[PoliticalChic]

I must agree with you that ALL Democrats are anti Israel or else?

Because that is the premise of your thread.

There is no truth to it and I had, and have, every right to give my opinion and show proof of it wherever it exists.

You are about bullying and beating what down anyone's throat?


Are ALL Democrats anti Israel?

YES or NO ???

This may be beyond your ken, you dunce......but there are no 'line item vetoes' for Democrat voters: every single voter who votes Democrat is supporting the number one single most important foreign policy aim of the party: guaranteeing nuclear weapons to the world's worst state sponsor of terrorism.....the nation that has promised to wipe Israel off the map.


Israel has a major enemy in Democrats....but also in morons like you who make excuses for anyone....ANYONE....who casts a vote for a Democrat.


Wake the heck up!!!!!!!!!

 

[Sixties Fan]

This is what your thread is about. Now stick to it:

• Jun 21, 2022

• #1

1. A number of times I have responded to liars claiming that Israel stole the land from the poor terrorists....er, Arabs,.....with documented proof that it was purchased, often from Palestinians who were then killed for the sale by their brethren.
Pipes just wrote it in the WSJ.

"Israel Is the Least-Stolen Land​

Jews lacked the power to fight the Ottoman or British empires, so they purchased land, acre by acre, in voluntary transactions. Opinion | Israel Is the Least-Stolen Land​

....“conquest and migration have shaped the entire world.” So far as I know, only one country was purchased rather than conquered. Ironically, that country is also the one most accused of having “stolen” the land it now controls. That country is Israel.

The making of the Jewish state represents perhaps history’s most peaceable in-migration and state creation. Zionist efforts long had a near-exclusively mercantile, not military, quality. Jews lacked the power to fight the Ottoman or British empires, so they purchased land, acre by acre, in voluntary transactions.
Only when the British withdrew from Palestine in 1948, followed immediately by an all-out attempt by Arab states to crush the nascent Israel, did Israelis take up the sword in self-defense and go on to win land through military conquest. By then, however, this exceptional polity had already existed through purchase."

Daniel Pipes
Middle East Forum




I'd say that this fits the narrative that Democrats lie about everything.

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