Anyone For Making Voting a Federal Right?

[bodecea]

You made an utterly false and utterly stupid claim. Voter integrity laws endanger your Reich, as you depend on election fraud to maintain power.

There is a federal right to vote, the 14th Amendment. What you Nazis want to do is federalize voting itself so that you can institutionalize election fraud and ensure perpetual power for your Reich.

Where in the 14th Amendment are women allowed to vote? Or are you against that?

 

[Grumblenuts]

Time for a 'Right to Vote' Constitutional Amendment

How many dysfunctional election cycles are we going to endure before we accept the necessity of this reform?

www.thenation.com

 

[M14 Shooter]

Time for a 'Right to Vote' Constitutional Amendment

How many dysfunctional election cycles are we going to endure before we accept the necessity of this reform?

www.thenation.com

"The current US electoral process is not what democracy looks like."
Sure it is.
You vote, and the perosn with the majority of votes wins.
Just like everywhere else

"“Democracies around the world—old democracies, new democracies—have in their constitutions an affirmative right to vote. It’s remarkable to me that the United States does not have that guarantee in our Constitution. I think a lot of our problems come back to this issue.”
The reason for this difference is simple and obvious:
In the US there are no national elections; all elections are state elections.
As such your right to vote is a state-level right.
This right is protected by several amendments to the US constitution, and federal law.

"administration of elections has been left to states with radically different standards. This makes no sense, considering the history of voting rights struggles."
When you realize all elections are state elections it makes perfect sense, as each of the 50 states have the power to decide for itself how its elections are run, within the limits of federal law and the US constitution.

"Even when the system melted down in 2000—when the Supreme Court intervened to halt the ballot recount in Florida, which could have determined a different winner in that year’s presidential race"
This isn't a systemic melt-down, this is the system working as intended.
Indeed. it is an example of how the federal government protects voting in state-level elections.

"That tension was highlighted by Justice Antonin Scalia during the Bush v. Gore arguments in December 2000, when he went out of his way to observe that there is no federal constitutional guarantee of a right to vote for president."
Of course not - your state grants you the privilege. It need not do so.
As intended.

 

[bodecea]

But wait....we're oppressing you because we think you need a picture ID to vote

As long as those are provided easily and for free, it's not against the 24th Amendment.

 

[bodecea]

Can you name any citizen who doesn’t have the right to vote?

Those without permanent street addresses like in some NA reservations.

 

[bodecea]

As it should be. Some rights are lost when in prison.

After prison is what he is referring to.....AFTER they've paid their debt to society.

 

[bodecea]

Just because you've never read it Del, doesn't mean that the equal protection clause doesn't exist..

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Fourteenth Amendment​

Fourteenth Amendment Annotated

Section 1​

All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.}

It very much does protect the right to vote.

What about women?

 

[JoeMoma]

No reason they shouldn't be able to vote again after paying their debt to society.

After paying their debt to society, they are no longer in prison

After prison is what he is referring to.....AFTER they've paid their debt to society.

Then he should of said that to begin with. Bernie Sanders for example wanted felons in prison to be able to vote.

 

[AMart]

I think the DNC has voter registration apps for Afghans as soon as they got off of those planes.

 

[otto105]

Each state has an allocation of federal representatives, all of whom are elected in state elections.

As I said:
That said, your right to vote in your state elections is protected by the US constitution.

So... what's your point?

In offices for federal positions states must follow federal election laws.

 

[Grumblenuts]

The reason for this difference is simple and obvious:
In the US there are no national elections; all elections are state elections.
As such your right to vote is a state-level right.

As is yours. It's a given. Unless you're under 18, or a U.S. citizen who happens to reside in no state, or a prisoner, or you're immobile and prevented by your state from voting by mail, or your vote is rendered meaningless by corruption and gerrymandering, or your supposed choice is just between the two corrupt jerks selected by our corporate duopoly as usual, and no doubt lots of other issues I'm currently unaware of.

It's a pretty simple thread. One must first accept that we have no federal right to vote, then decide whether we should have such a thing. All of your responses clearly indicate "No, I'm opposed." Message received the first time. Thanks. You may move along now..

 

[M14 Shooter]

As is yours. It's a given. Unless you're under 18,

Minors have never had the right to vote. Age of majority.

or a U.S. citizen who happens to reside in no state,

You still have the right to vote in your local elections.

or a prisoner,

Due process, 5th Amendment.

or you're immobile and prevented by your state from voting by mail'

No such state exists,

or your vote is rendered meaningless by corruption and gerrymandering,

You still have the right to vote.,

or your supposed choice is just between the two corrupt jerks selected by our corporate duopoly as usual

You still have the right to vote.

It's a pretty simple thread. One must first accept that we have no federal right to vote, then decide whether we should have such a thing. '

Given your responses, above, you cannot demonstrate the necessity for such a right, and you cannot demonstrate how said federal right to vote will change anything.

 

[M14 Shooter]

In offices for federal positions states must follow federal election laws.

I said that.

 

[Grumblenuts]

Minors have never had the right to vote. Age of majority.

You still have the right to vote in your local elections.

Due process, 5th Amendment.

No such state exists,

You still have the right to vote.,

You still have the right to vote.

Given your responses, above, you cannot demonstrate the necessity for such a right, and you cannot demonstrate how said federal right to vote will change anything.

I see you like to argue.. pointlessly..
You may still piss off anytime..

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Anyone For Making Voting a Federal Right?

Unsurprisingly, it’s an overwhelming ‘no’ from the kids on the right.

 

[justinacolmena]

proof of people being denied voting rights

Oh you're not Democrats or even Socialists then, you're Communists, took over the polls by force, tell lies on the mainstream media, prosecute political dissidents for thoughtcrime and mental illness.

 

[M14 Shooter]

I see you like to argue.. pointlessly..
You may still piss off anytime..

Translation:
You know you have no cogent response.
Given your responses, you cannot demonstrate the necessity for such a right, and you cannot demonstrate how said federal right to vote will change anything.

 

[M14 Shooter]

Unsurprisingly, it’s an overwhelming ‘no’ from the kids on the right.

Because -we- understand there's no demonstrable necessity for what he wants,.
Why don't you?

 

[justinacolmena]

Translation:
You know you have no cogent response.
Given your responses, you cannot demonstrate the necessity for such a right, and you cannot demonstrate how said federal right to vote will change anything.

So the Dems stole not only the whole 2020 general election, but our right to vote in all future elections.

 

[M14 Shooter]

So the Dems stole not only the whole 2020 general election, but our right to vote in all future elections.

Winning is all that matters to them - the means to achive that win is irrelevant.