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We have a P courses and honors courses in the US as well. A lot of the image of the super busy students in the countries you mention comes from parents who enroll their students and after school programs that can be quite rigorous. Because it had gotten a little out of control, countries in Asia are now passing laws to limit the times and amount that students can spend after school at such places. China recently passed a law outlawing private profitable education centers outside of the school system
The man can't take his business elsewhere in his own home, because of the broken-down POS monopoly model of "education" that you're here defending, and the best you can tell him is to leave the state?I am sorry that you live in the People's Republic of Massachusetts. Perhaps you should consider moving to the United States of Flyover Country.
The University Must Be Replaced With Highly Paid Professional TrainingOur education system has been largely unchanged since the 1950s.
It is amazingly tragic that this is the case.
Perhaps getting private industry involved would be the best solution to both get the unions and the government out of education.
We need to treat students as individuals. With an effort especially on identifying gifted students. As well as identifying students who simply cannot learn well in a "normal" class sitting... but blow other students out of the water in testing.
Our education system treats kids like little robots. As if every "model" is the same. Same lessons, taught the same way, at the same speed with ZERO regard for how well/poorly individual students do.
I 'preach' that but believe university is not for everyone for a different reason.Mind-Candy Is What Turns High IQs Into Neurotic Desperate Nerds
The university is work without pay. Therefore, it is only for teenagers who are afraid to grow up. Avoiding adult responsibilities has nothing to do with mental talent, despite the fact that everybody who preaches "The university is not for everyone" is brainwashed to believe the untalented, rather than the naturally maturing are the ones who don't belong there. Don't be misled by pushing the assumption that working without pay is only for smart kids, because "they like studying so much they'll do it for free."
Not part of our HS curriculum per parents in the town.Most of that stuff starts in high school. There’s been a lot of talk lately about starting such things earlier but right now it mostly happens in high school.
I'm pretty sure you're solidly right wing. You also seem to understand the situation quite well because you're a retired teacher. What do you think about this notion that we should end public schooling?$45k a year? Many teacher's wish they made that much. I retired after 21 years. I made $50K 4 out of those 21 years and 3 were in an inner city middle school. The other gave me day for day credit for 11 years military service.
I starting get the feeling that you can't 'splain why you're here stealing from the taxpayers, when you should be doing your fucking job.I'm starting to get the feeling that you walk around assuming your life is a universal standard.
Ask the retired hooker what she thinks about closing the cat house.I'm pretty sure you're solidly right wing. You also seem to understand the situation quite well because you're a retired teacher. What do you think about this notion that we should end public schooling?
Nearly everyone who wants one...In fact, many of the "poor" see to it that they get the most expensive and flashy one that they can afford.
Now, tell us why the hell are you fucking around here during school hours?
I starting get the feeling that you can't 'splain why you're here stealing from the taxpayers, when you should be doing your fucking job.
The a P courses here do compare. Like the advanced courses in many of the Asian nations to which you are referring, more material is presented at a faster rate and students are rigorously tested on it in preparation for a very high stakes test at the end of the year. As for the language schools in China, the CCP certainly is trying to make sure free market capitalism doesn’t get too far if there is money to be made, the central government wants to be sure they get the bulk of it themselves. A lot of the teachers who were working at these after school academies are now kind of living in a black market underworld where the parents who used to take their kids to these very well appointed expensive academies are hiring the foreign teachers and other tutors directly.Yes that is partially true, but AP, or P courses simply do not compare.
Higher programs in Asia are immersive.
As for China they primarily passed that law as a power move for CCP members, and as a backlash against unnecessary western influence.
What do you think has happened to all of the English academies in China?
Same thing.
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Anyone Who Lives Like a Child When He Is Not One Will Wind Up With the Mind of a ChildI 'preach' that
Therefore, university is genuinely not for everyone.
As for working without pay...that's for rich kids.
Sadly, poor ones have been enticed to follow the hype to their detriment.
"Does anyone really want to discuss education?"Does anyone really want to discuss education?
Some of the shit my kid actually spent time learning from his friends and the other kids in school. . . because the stuff the STATE was propagandizing them with was useless and boring?No money in it for the career monopolist educrat......So the OP will dismiss this out-of-hand.
Hey, welcome."Does anyone really want to discuss education?"
I'd like to discuss how illegal wetbacks have taken public schools in California from among the best in the nation to the very worse.
I'd like to discuss how/why you and many others seem to be accepting of the aforementioned?
My bet is you'll avoid such discussion as it's scary as fuck, doesn't fit your retarded narrative and makes you want to pee yourself...right?
Maybe people that are actual teachers can help me explain to your ignorant ass that kids aren't just wasting their time at school. They're learning things.Ask the retired hooker what she thinks about closing the cat house.
The public school system here in Mexifornia must be destroyed and rebuilt.Hey, welcome.
I assume you're probably all about public school as long it's done to the best benefit of citizens only?
What's the value of building a public school in your opinion? Generally speaking. I'm asking for others.and rebuilt.
They are definitely "learning things"...they are learning to hate their country, to hate white people and the laws of their country...they are learning social construct and how to advocate for societal realignment. FUCK THAT!Maybe people that are actual teachers can help me explain to your ignorant ass that kids aren't just wasting their time at school. They're learning things.
