Appeals Court rules Illegals are ENTITLED to drivers license

[OriginalShroom]

Arizona needs to take it to the full court then up to the SCotUS.

A clear violation of the Right of the State to determine who they issue Drivers Licenses to.

A D/L is a State issue not a Federal one.

 

[dilloduck]

"Appeals Court rules Illegals are ENTITLED to drivers license"

Good. We want to make sure they know the rules of the road and can get insurance.

Wrong! When they come here LEGALLY then they can get a DL. Deport them is the only way to deal with the criminaals.

Go for it. The costs to do so are above.

Since when has America been living on any kind of budget ? Money is of no consequence.

 

[M.D. Rawlings]

Both are within their rights to make said calls. That's our system, but you are free to leave if you hate it here so much...

Reversing "Love it or Leave it" doesn't strengthen the "argument"; this is the Court with jurisdiction, thus Arizona will have to abide, yet, I see the obvious objections to such a ruling.

It's a liberal nation founded by liberals. If you don't like it, leave...

Sociopath. Pathological liar. Degenerate.

This nation was founded on classical liberalism, not your pseudo-liberalism, and you bloody well know that.

 

[Camp]

Immigrants in this country that are covered by the DECA or "Dream initiative" are not illegal. They are here with authority of the federal government. The state of Arizona and the Governor acknowledge that the federal government can authorize immigrants to legal status for various reasons, including the awaiting of court hearings and cases. Arizona grants drivers licences to these immigrants with no problem or complaints. The Governor decided arbitrarily not to recognize immigrants with legal authority granted under DECA and the court ruled unanimously that a governor does not have authority to determine which immigrants are legal and which are illegal.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Money is of no consequence.

Good to know because it will take some time to figure out where these new kids came from and what their stories are. They might be here awhile.

 

[mudwhistle]

The "wrong" with us part that you don't understand is we are dealing in reality, not your magical thinking that we can just snap our fingers and deport 12 million people, about 4% of the population. And the bill for that is roughly 300 billion. Pay up...

No one says it will be done at the snap of the fingers. It may take 10 years to round them all up. I'm willing to wait it out.

Great, papers please?

And the cost for said action, forgetting the resulting the economic damage, $1,000 per American. Where do I send the bill?

The White House.

 

[LadyGunSlinger]

Immigrants in this country that are covered by the DECA or "Dream initiative" are not illegal. They are here with authority of the federal government. The state of Arizona and the Governor acknowledge that the federal government can authorize immigrants to legal status for various reasons, including the awaiting of court hearings and cases. Arizona grants drivers licences to these immigrants with no problem or complaints. The Governor decided arbitrarily not to recognize immigrants with legal authority granted under DECA and the court ruled unanimously that a governor does not have authority to determine which immigrants are legal and which are illegal.

The States have rights and as noted, this specific issue is a STATES Right, not the Federal Government which is actually King Obama now.

 

[dilloduck]

Money is of no consequence.

Good to know because it will take some time to figure out where these new kids came from and what their stories are. They might be here awhile.

Not if we just give them bus tickets to Mexico City.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Arizona needs to take it to the full court then up to the SCotUS.

A clear violation of the Right of the State to determine who they issue Drivers Licenses to.

A D/L is a State issue not a Federal one.

By all means. Who wants Blacks and Asians behind the wheel anyway, or anyone else the state decides not to issue to. It's arbitrary right?

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Money is of no consequence.

Good to know because it will take some time to figure out where these new kids came from and what their stories are. They might be here awhile.

Not if we just give them bus tickets to Mexico City.

Reality intrudes again, since it doesn't work that way. Carry on with your magical thinking...

 

[Camp]

Immigrants in this country that are covered by the DECA or "Dream initiative" are not illegal. They are here with authority of the federal government. The state of Arizona and the Governor acknowledge that the federal government can authorize immigrants to legal status for various reasons, including the awaiting of court hearings and cases. Arizona grants drivers licences to these immigrants with no problem or complaints. The Governor decided arbitrarily not to recognize immigrants with legal authority granted under DECA and the court ruled unanimously that a governor does not have authority to determine which immigrants are legal and which are illegal.

The States have rights and as noted, this specific issue is a STATES Right, not the Federal Government which is actually King Obama now.

The court is simply ruling that individual governors can not pick and choose which immigrants that have federal legal status they can waive or deny privileges to. The federal government determines the legal status of immigrants, not individual states.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

All of this ignorance, hate, and contempt for the constitution from the right - let's hope this isn't representative of all conservatives.

 

[Redfish]

Immigrants in this country that are covered by the DECA or "Dream initiative" are not illegal. They are here with authority of the federal government. The state of Arizona and the Governor acknowledge that the federal government can authorize immigrants to legal status for various reasons, including the awaiting of court hearings and cases. Arizona grants drivers licences to these immigrants with no problem or complaints. The Governor decided arbitrarily not to recognize immigrants with legal authority granted under DECA and the court ruled unanimously that a governor does not have authority to determine which immigrants are legal and which are illegal.

The States have rights and as noted, this specific issue is a STATES Right, not the Federal Government which is actually King Obama now.

The court is simply ruling that individual governors can not pick and choose which immigrants that have federal legal status they can waive or deny privileges to. The federal government determines the legal status of immigrants, not individual states.

No person who entered this country illegally has "federal legal status". King Obama does not have the power to confer that to anyone.

 

[LadyGunSlinger]

Immigrants in this country that are covered by the DECA or "Dream initiative" are not illegal. They are here with authority of the federal government. The state of Arizona and the Governor acknowledge that the federal government can authorize immigrants to legal status for various reasons, including the awaiting of court hearings and cases. Arizona grants drivers licences to these immigrants with no problem or complaints. The Governor decided arbitrarily not to recognize immigrants with legal authority granted under DECA and the court ruled unanimously that a governor does not have authority to determine which immigrants are legal and which are illegal.

The States have rights and as noted, this specific issue is a STATES Right, not the Federal Government which is actually King Obama now.

The court is simply ruling that individual governors can not pick and choose which immigrants that have federal legal status they can waive or deny privileges to. The federal government determines the legal status of immigrants, not individual states.

It's called the LAW and your boy King has trampled all over it.. Now the most left leaning CIRCUS Court in the country demands we reward law breakers.. Fuck it, let's give Rapists a free ticket out of jail and benefits..

 

[PaintMyHouse]

No one says it will be done at the snap of the fingers. It may take 10 years to round them all up. I'm willing to wait it out.

Great, papers please?

And the cost for said action, forgetting the resulting the economic damage, $1,000 per American. Where do I send the bill?

The White House.

Since they didn't order that it's unlikely it will be paid. I'll just put it on your bill, which was about 56K the last time I checked.

 

[OriginalShroom]

Wrong! When they come here LEGALLY then they can get a DL. Deport them is the only way to deal with the criminaals.

Go for it. The costs to do so are above.

Since when has America been living on any kind of budget ? Money is of no consequence.

IT wouldn't cost much to make illegals self-deport. In fact it may even save money.

Simple make the following changes to the laws.

1 - Require all employers to use E-Verify. They don't, they lose their business license for 2 years.

2 - Any employer hiring illegals loses all Government Contracts for 5 years.

3 - No welfare of any kind to illegals. No housing, no Food Stamps, no medical. Nothing.

4 - Illegals will not be educated in the U.S. End the idea that we must educate anyone who is here.

5 - End Birthright Citizenship. At least one parent must be a citizen before a child is born with Citizenship.

6 - Confiscate all funds being sent to Mexico by illegals. Since they are here illegally, they are working illegally, earning that money illegally. Under current laws, the Government can confiscate it. Use that money to prosecute those who give aid to illegals.

7 - Any City that harbors illegals and refuses to aid in their deportation loses all Government money. End of Conversation. You want illegals in your City? Do it without Federal Money supporting you.


See.. Hardly any cost at all to the Government. Illegals will self-deport.

 

[Redfish]

All of this ignorance, hate, and contempt for the constitution from the right - let's hope this isn't representative of all conservatives.

can you please quote the language from the constitution that mandates citizenship rights for illegal aliens?

didn't think so, now, go away so the adults can discuss this

 

[OriginalShroom]

All of this ignorance, hate, and contempt for the constitution from the right - let's hope this isn't representative of all conservatives.

Where does the Constitution say that Obama, or any President, can ignore the laws that are on the books?

 

[mudwhistle]

Guess we could get a Republican in the Whitehouse and he could suspend every law liberals hold dear, beginning with abortion.

How bout that pumpkin?

Two can play this game....

Obama set the precedence after all. Laws are arbitrary and subject to the will of the people in power. Right?

 

[Camp]

The States have rights and as noted, this specific issue is a STATES Right, not the Federal Government which is actually King Obama now.

The court is simply ruling that individual governors can not pick and choose which immigrants that have federal legal status they can waive or deny privileges to. The federal government determines the legal status of immigrants, not individual states.

No person who entered this country illegal has "federal legal status". King Obama does not have the power to confer that to anyone.

Yes they do. They are illegal only until they get in front of a judge who documents them and orders a court hearing. During the time they are waiting for the hearing and any appeals that may apply they are documented and legal. That does not mean they have a work permit or "Green card", but it means they are here legally under a federal court order. They are given "authority" to reside in the USA and all states are obligated to recognize the federal courts order.