Arctic Wetlands: The Doomsday Bomb?

[koshergrl]

Global Warming: BFD

When Earth was much warmer, snakes grew to 60 feet long and turtles were 600 lbs. What's the problem with a warmer planet?

Humans can't survive in that environment.

Lolol.....

 

[TheTechnologist]

Global Warming: BFD

When Earth was much warmer, snakes grew to 60 feet long and turtles were 600 lbs. What's the problem with a warmer planet?

Humans can't survive in that environment.

Lolol.....

It's literal. If the Earth heated as much as the "Hothouse Earth" then most of the planet including south of Minnesota would often get to hotter than 37C at 100% humidity.

Which means you can't shed heat and will die without air conditioning.

 

[koshergrl]

Global Warming: BFD

When Earth was much warmer, snakes grew to 60 feet long and turtles were 600 lbs. What's the problem with a warmer planet?

Humans can't survive in that environment.

Lolol.....

It's literal. If the Earth heated as much as the "Hothouse Earth" then most of the planet including south of Minnesota would often get to hotter than 37C at 100% humidity.

Which means you can't shed heat and will die without air conditioning.

When that happens Christ will be on his throne.

I don't need to worry about it. And neither do you, because there's only one way you are going to avoid being burned forever. And it isn't by spending envirocultism propaganda.

 

[TheTechnologist]

Global Warming: BFD

When Earth was much warmer, snakes grew to 60 feet long and turtles were 600 lbs. What's the problem with a warmer planet?

Humans can't survive in that environment.

Lolol.....

It's literal. If the Earth heated as much as the "Hothouse Earth" then most of the planet including south of Minnesota would often get to hotter than 37C at 100% humidity.

Which means you can't shed heat and will die without air conditioning.

When that happens Christ will be on his throne.

I don't need to worry about it. And neither do you, because there's only one way you are going to avoid being burned forever. And it isn't by spending envirocultism propaganda.

That's when you should be VERY worried about it.

I'm certain you're in the category "many will say Lord Lord, but I do not know them."

 

[koshergrl]

Global Warming: BFD

When Earth was much warmer, snakes grew to 60 feet long and turtles were 600 lbs. What's the problem with a warmer planet?

Humans can't survive in that environment.

Lolol.....

It's literal. If the Earth heated as much as the "Hothouse Earth" then most of the planet including south of Minnesota would often get to hotter than 37C at 100% humidity.

Which means you can't shed heat and will die without air conditioning.

When that happens Christ will be on his throne.

I don't need to worry about it. And neither do you, because there's only one way you are going to avoid being burned forever. And it isn't by spending envirocultism propaganda.

That's when you should be VERY worried about it.

I'm certain you're in the category "many will say Lord Lord, but I do not know them."

I'm certain you're certain.
It won't keep you comfy as you fry.

 

[Old Rocks]

The reason this matters is Methane production by wetlands behaves like the Arctic about 5C and below, but behaves like the Tropics about 10C and above.

Butbut, methane is GOOD! It makes me think of cows farts and that always makes me think of Snowflake Liberals who are one big loud cow fart.

I don't think the Earth can currently survive its +4w/m^2 GHG concentration, let alone a full doubling of the Methane component (which accounts for about 1.5 of those watts.). One Solar Maximum will add another full 1 watt to that input, and the Earth will be pushed over a limit then. That will probably be the straw to break the camel's back, a Solar maximum to push the Arctic fully into a 10C isotherm during summers.

Let's note that. Thanks for letting us know the end is near. I guess you also think the oceans are running dry from evaporation? Just as you fail to recognize the mechanisms of rainfall returning water to the Sea, the Earth is self-balancing taking the excess methane and returning it back in the form of storage in rock and organic matter. The Earth knows what she's doing even if you do not. But Liberals cannot understand that as they think they PERSONALLY must micromanage the Climate just as they think it is their mission to micromanage other people's lives.

OK, Toob, present some scientific evidence for your stance on this subject.

It isn't a matter of STANCE, I don't take stances, I make observations. How do you think all of that methane got locked up and stored in all these locations in the first place? Everything runs in cycles and all one needs is to study the history of the planet to see that EVERYTHING runs in cycles. Just as the ocean bobs up and down and your weather oscillates above and below its mean temp., methane and other agents are all cyclically stored and released as required around a mean level the Earth chooses as its median level of balance, and nothing man has done or CAN DO will ever be remotely near its greatest or least antigen in controlling or changing the Earth's cycles. Enjoy the ride. We are not derailing the car, we are merely part of the trip.

Glad you don't work in my trade. You would be dead in a short time. You make assumptions based on nothing at all. This world reacts to the physical and chemical laws of nature. If something changes, then there is a reason. And, through the studies of scientists, we can find out those reasons.

Yeah . . . . what would I know of being a scientist or the physical and chemical laws of nature?!

From your posts, nothing at all. You never back up your assertations with peer reviewed articles. You do know that those are, correct?

 

[westwall]

Global Warming: BFD

When Earth was much warmer, snakes grew to 60 feet long and turtles were 600 lbs. What's the problem with a warmer planet?

Humans can't survive in that environment.

Who says? Humans do fine in any environment save cold.

 

[TheTechnologist]

Humans can't survive in that environment.

Lolol.....

It's literal. If the Earth heated as much as the "Hothouse Earth" then most of the planet including south of Minnesota would often get to hotter than 37C at 100% humidity.

Which means you can't shed heat and will die without air conditioning.

When that happens Christ will be on his throne.

I don't need to worry about it. And neither do you, because there's only one way you are going to avoid being burned forever. And it isn't by spending envirocultism propaganda.

That's when you should be VERY worried about it.

I'm certain you're in the category "many will say Lord Lord, but I do not know them."

I'm certain you're certain.
It won't keep you comfy as you fry.

You're the most hypocritical anti-Christian person there is.

You hate the poor. Want to take away their welfare, their health care, you tell them to get a job. While you give pittance at your church for "charity" and think you're doing good.

And you deny God's plan for the end times. Global warming.

You can't get more anti-Christ than you are.

 

[TheTechnologist]

Global Warming: BFD

When Earth was much warmer, snakes grew to 60 feet long and turtles were 600 lbs. What's the problem with a warmer planet?

Humans can't survive in that environment.

Who says? Humans do fine in any environment save cold.

Heat related deaths far surpass cold related deaths.

 

[westwall]

Global Warming: BFD

When Earth was much warmer, snakes grew to 60 feet long and turtles were 600 lbs. What's the problem with a warmer planet?

Humans can't survive in that environment.

Who says? Humans do fine in any environment save cold.

Heat related deaths far surpass cold related deaths.

No, they don't.

 

[Old Rocks]

Global Warming: BFD

When Earth was much warmer, snakes grew to 60 feet long and turtles were 600 lbs. What's the problem with a warmer planet?

Humans can't survive in that environment.

Who says? Humans do fine in any environment save cold.

Innuit.

 

[westwall]

Global Warming: BFD

When Earth was much warmer, snakes grew to 60 feet long and turtles were 600 lbs. What's the problem with a warmer planet?

Humans can't survive in that environment.

Who says? Humans do fine in any environment save cold.

Innuit.

Hold on by the skin of their teeth. Entire Innuit villages used to die out in harsh winters.

 

[IanC]

Global Warming: BFD

When Earth was much warmer, snakes grew to 60 feet long and turtles were 600 lbs. What's the problem with a warmer planet?

Humans can't survive in that environment.

Who says? Humans do fine in any environment save cold.

Heat related deaths far surpass cold related deaths.

Was it Regan that said something like-
It's not what our liberal friends don't know that is the problem, it's the things that they KNOW but aren't true that is the problem.

I think this case is a perfect analogy for what the warming alarmists know but isn't true. Cold kills many more people than heat does.

 

[TheTechnologist]

Global Warming: BFD

When Earth was much warmer, snakes grew to 60 feet long and turtles were 600 lbs. What's the problem with a warmer planet?

Humans can't survive in that environment.

Who says? Humans do fine in any environment save cold.

Heat related deaths far surpass cold related deaths.

Was it Regan that said something like-
It's not what our liberal friends don't know that is the problem, it's the things that they KNOW but aren't true that is the problem.

I think this case is a perfect analogy for what the warming alarmists know but isn't true. Cold kills many more people than heat does.

No, lol not even close.

Far more people die each year to Heat Related deaths, sometimes in the 10s of thousands during heat waves.

Why are you such a fucking liar?

 

[TheTechnologist]

NWS Weather Fatality, Injury and Damage Statistics

Heat kills 8x more than Cold, statistically.

 

[Billy_Bob]

I asked the Danish Meteorological Institute Ocean and Ice Services | Danmarks Meteorologiske Institut if they were keeping track of the 10C isotherm boundary for the Arctic circle.

They were not. And they are the foremost temperature data on the Arctic in that regards.

The reason this matters is Methane production by wetlands behaves like the Arctic about 5C and below, but behaves like the Tropics about 10C and above.

The evidence for that behavior is in research papers I can try and find but don't have at the time of this writing.

Basically, very little Methane produced by wetlands under 5C, and a lot of Methane produced by wetlands above 10C, with the optimum being somewhere around 32C.

That being said, the Arctic Wetlands, which are currently in a "phase" change from permafrost to arctic wetland, will be crossing the 10C isotherm boundary soon.

It's currently happening, and I think it is the greatest over looked source of Methane today.

And the total area of possible wetlands in the Arctic is GREATER than the current naturally occurring wetlands on Earth today. So the balance of Methane will permanently shift even higher as the Arctic becomes "activated".

I don't think the Earth can currently survive its +4w/m^2 GHG concentration, let alone a full doubling of the Methane component (which accounts for about 1.5 of those watts.).

One Solar Maximum will add another full 1 watt to that input, and the Earth will be pushed over a limit then. That will probably be the straw to break the camel's back, a Solar maximum to push the Arctic fully into a 10C isotherm during summers.

BWhaaaaaaaa

From the same people that brought you "the methane bomb" which was shown a lie and massively overstated comes the same story rewritten...

You are aware that the arctic has been ice free 5 times in this warm period called the Holocene already, don't you? oddly enough, we never had a runaway earth either... So your hypothesis is bull shit by simple empirically observed evidence.

 

[fncceo]

I guess you're a fucking retard who needs his hemorrhoids kicked out of his anus:

Spoken like a true scientist.

 

[TheTechnologist]

I asked the Danish Meteorological Institute Ocean and Ice Services | Danmarks Meteorologiske Institut if they were keeping track of the 10C isotherm boundary for the Arctic circle.

They were not. And they are the foremost temperature data on the Arctic in that regards.

The reason this matters is Methane production by wetlands behaves like the Arctic about 5C and below, but behaves like the Tropics about 10C and above.

The evidence for that behavior is in research papers I can try and find but don't have at the time of this writing.

Basically, very little Methane produced by wetlands under 5C, and a lot of Methane produced by wetlands above 10C, with the optimum being somewhere around 32C.

That being said, the Arctic Wetlands, which are currently in a "phase" change from permafrost to arctic wetland, will be crossing the 10C isotherm boundary soon.

It's currently happening, and I think it is the greatest over looked source of Methane today.

And the total area of possible wetlands in the Arctic is GREATER than the current naturally occurring wetlands on Earth today. So the balance of Methane will permanently shift even higher as the Arctic becomes "activated".

I don't think the Earth can currently survive its +4w/m^2 GHG concentration, let alone a full doubling of the Methane component (which accounts for about 1.5 of those watts.).

One Solar Maximum will add another full 1 watt to that input, and the Earth will be pushed over a limit then. That will probably be the straw to break the camel's back, a Solar maximum to push the Arctic fully into a 10C isotherm during summers.

BWhaaaaaaaa

From the same people that brought you "the methane bomb" which was shown a lie and massively overstated comes the same story rewritten...

You are aware that the arctic has been ice free 5 times in this warm period called the Holocene already, don't you? oddly enough, we never had a runaway earth either... So your hypothesis is bull shit by simple empirically observed evidence.

We never had 410+ppm of CO2 and 1850+ppm of Methane and growing during the Holocene either.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Global Warming: BFD

When Earth was much warmer, snakes grew to 60 feet long and turtles were 600 lbs. What's the problem with a warmer planet?

Humans can't survive in that environment.

How do you know?

 

[Billy_Bob]

The Arctic is going to 10C? Really?

Is this latest prediction from the same people who told us that, "snow is a thing of the past"?

I guess you're a fucking retard who needs his hemorrhoids kicked out of his anus:

Arctic Isotherm

https://www.researchgate.net/figure...ine-and-permafrost-data-are-fr_263369200_fig7

So, you're calling summer in the Arctic a tipping point? 10C? What?

Looks like the nuts are out in force... and not one of them has any empirical evidence to prove their assumptions..