Assholes making trouble in Oregon

[Tilly]

They should just claim they're Illegals. Those folks can do anything they want these days. Hussein has given em an unlimited free pass. Just claim you're a poor abused Illegal, then get your freebies and a White House invite.

Oh shut up, you fucking idiot. This is about an illegal armed occupation of Federal lands, not President Obama.

If they were Illegals, African Americans, or Muslims, Hussein would have already intervened and given em all a big ole hug. But they white, so he ain't giva a shit.

They'd just be 'misunderstood' and forced into this position because of other people's 'phobias' and vaguely unkind words.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

Less than a mile away from me in Indianapolis, we had our own pack of similar kooks. An independent Baptist church called the Indiana Baptist Temple had been openly refusing to pay their payroll taxes for 16 years. By 2000, it had gone on long enough that the government ordered the property seized to pay the tax bill.

The IBT said they'd resist. They holed up in the building. And then a pack of outside agitators also showed up, and started their propaganda offensive about how awful the gubmint was.

And in the neighborhood? Ever single person, no matter what their political beliefs, hated the IBT assclowns for being moochers and freeloaders, and hated their carpetbagger pals for occupying part of a neighborhood that wasn't their own. Everyone wanted them gone. It's similar to how the locals must feel about the Bundy parasitical assmunches.

Two months later, after most of 'em had gotten bored and left, the sheriff rolled in by surprise at 6AM, rousted 'em out, and took control of the building. Everyone applauded. The property is a school now, Christel House Academy.

Very similar in that they were already getting tax subsidies but wanted it free - just like the Oregon welfare ranchers.

The nutters in Oregon are willing to kill.

 

[peach174]

The Shot Heard Round the Word:
The Battles of Lexington and Concord

The clash began on April 19, 1775 when more about 700 British soldiers were given what they thought were secret orders to destroy colonial military supplies in Concord, Massachusetts. Fortunately, thanks to a rather elaborate colonial intelligence network, led by the Sons of Liberty, the Patriots were aware that their supplies were at risk, and were able to move them to different locations long before the British began to move. Also, thanks to the daring rides of a few brave men, the colonial militia knew that an engagement with the British Army was imminent.

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Again, it's not about grazing rights. You guys don't have a whole brain between you.

And yet, you can't say what they want.

Megan Kelly on Fox is interviewing Aman Bundy on air.....and she is calling him a lawless criminal and taking him to task.

So....yeah....we are calling them criminals. Because they are exactly that.

She just called him out on the groups indication of being willing to be violent.

So...yeah...CC has no point once again.

Megan Kelly? Was she bleeding again?

He dropped the part where Bundy said he does not want violence, but would fight back if they fired first.
These are American Citizens who want the Feds to control themselves under the Constitution and stop abusing the people.

Yeah, right.

You like to pretend you know everything about everything but when you're called on your know-it-all posts, you disappear or don't answer.

They want the Fed's to surrender the property they stole to state control.

Peach, that's a very old trick. He's going to keep pushing until someone in authority DOES fire, then claim 'they' shot first. IOW create a situation, then cry foul when the inevitable happens. The locals are wise to stay away and let this bunch of thugs make fools of themselves. As for the land...the Paiutes want it back too. And I missed the part in the Constitution where the Fed holding and leasing land is abuse. Can you tell me where to find it? I have a copy so I can refer to it if only I know where to look.

Feds holding and leasing BLM land is not abuse, but taking land that belongs to ranchers that holds deeds is.

 

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no one wants them there except for the media

 

[peach174]

Using arson to cover up their poaching ... How is this not domestic terrorism?

...Steven Hammond handed out “Strike Anywhere” matches with instructions that they be lit and dropped on the ground because they were going to “light up the whole country on fire.” ...

Told by a 13 year old kid who is mentally disturbed, who should have never testified in the 1st place.

 

[bodecea]

Using arson to cover up their poaching ... How is this not domestic terrorism?

...Steven Hammond handed out “Strike Anywhere” matches with instructions that they be lit and dropped on the ground because they were going to “light up the whole country on fire.” ...

Around here...it's even worse if someone uses Arson to cover up a crime.....and the arsonist pays for all the damage and the firefighting cost.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

To be fair that kid is tall for his age and since height is a direct correlation to criminality I can see why thats brought up often

Aww CC, they are just playing Rambo! wink wink

Should have known you'd twist this into a whiney rant about race.
Pull up your britches and be a big boi

 

[ClosedCaption]

To be fair that kid is tall for his age and since height is a direct correlation to criminality I can see why thats brought up often

Aww CC, they are just playing Rambo! wink wink

Should have known you'd twist this into a whiney rant about race.
Pull up your britches and be a big boi

Yet, here you are

 

[Dot Com]

Megan Kelly on Fox is interviewing Aman Bundy on air.....and she is calling him a lawless criminal and taking him to task.

So....yeah....we are calling them criminals. Because they are exactly that.

She just called him out on the groups indication of being willing to be violent.

So...yeah...CC has no point once again.

Megan Kelly? Was she bleeding again?

no doubt

 

[Tilly]

y

Now you want them hanged?

If someone get killed out of this insanity, yes.

Same thing was said when they were in Nevada, but no one got hurt and the Feds backed down.

The feds wisely decided bloodshed was not needed to secure a patch of vacant desert grassland. They put ego and emotion aside and decided to show patience. That, as can be seen now, was a mistake. The culprits have graduated from grazing land that they had some level of claim to, to taking over a multi-million dollar property that is currently used by citizens and generates the local economy for the local residents of that county. They have absolutely no viable valid claim to that property. Not only are visitors to this taxpayer owned attraction being denied access to their property, the local schools have closed due the threat of armed militia in the area and the plea from the trespasser thugs for more to come to the area.
This is what they are attempting to steal or have temporarily stolen from the taxpayers:

www.fws.gov/refuge/Malheur/about.html

You guys make me laugh. Everyone in the area has guns, but some folk hole themselves up in the middle of nowhere, presumably nowhere near schools, and kids can't go to school no more. If these were Islamic terrorists, you'd be screeching 'COWARDS' at the top of your voices at anyone who suggested such a thing. Lol.

It's a local call to close school. Isn't that what these yahoos are wanting? Local decision making?

They are holed up in the middle of nowhere with guns, there are no schools nearby.

 

[paulitician]

They should just claim they're Illegals. Those folks can do anything they want these days. Hussein has given em an unlimited free pass. Just claim you're a poor abused Illegal, then get your freebies and a White House invite.

Oh shut up, you fucking idiot. This is about an illegal armed occupation of Federal lands, not President Obama.

If they were Illegals, African Americans, or Muslims, Hussein would have already intervened and given em all a big ole hug. But they white, so he ain't giva a shit.

They'd just be 'misunderstood' and forced into this position because of other people's 'phobias' and vaguely unkind words.

Yeah, if they could only claim to be poor abused Illegals. Man, those folks really can do whatever they want these days. Hussein's given them complete free reign immunity. They get the special perks while American Citizens get the shaft. It's a bizarre unjust system Hussein has set up.

But hey, he gets his revenge on Whitey and locks up a whole lotta future votes for his Party. It's a real Win-Win for him. You can bet if these folks were Illegals or African Americans, he would have already been down there promising them the world. But they Whitey, so they on they own. It is what it is.

 

[Carla_Danger]

y

If someone get killed out of this insanity, yes.

Same thing was said when they were in Nevada, but no one got hurt and the Feds backed down.

The feds wisely decided bloodshed was not needed to secure a patch of vacant desert grassland. They put ego and emotion aside and decided to show patience. That, as can be seen now, was a mistake. The culprits have graduated from grazing land that they had some level of claim to, to taking over a multi-million dollar property that is currently used by citizens and generates the local economy for the local residents of that county. They have absolutely no viable valid claim to that property. Not only are visitors to this taxpayer owned attraction being denied access to their property, the local schools have closed due the threat of armed militia in the area and the plea from the trespasser thugs for more to come to the area.
This is what they are attempting to steal or have temporarily stolen from the taxpayers:

www.fws.gov/refuge/Malheur/about.html

You guys make me laugh. Everyone in the area has guns, but some folk hole themselves up in the middle of nowhere, presumably nowhere near schools, and kids can't go to school no more. If these were Islamic terrorists, you'd be screeching 'COWARDS' at the top of your voices at anyone who suggested such a thing. Lol.

It's a local call to close school. Isn't that what these yahoos are wanting? Local decision making?

They are holed up in the middle of nowhere with guns, there are no schools nearby.

"You know you’re a badass Tea Party patriot motherfucker when your militia takes over an unprotected bird sanctuary" -- Jim Wright, Stonekettle Station.

 

[TyroneSlothrop]

 

[bodecea]

Using arson to cover up their poaching ... How is this not domestic terrorism?

...Steven Hammond handed out “Strike Anywhere” matches with instructions that they be lit and dropped on the ground because they were going to “light up the whole country on fire.” ...

Told by a 13 year old kid who is mentally disturbed, who should have never testified in the 1st place.

Attack the witness now. What a surprise.

 

[TyroneSlothrop]

Cliven Bundy's son is teaching "the Negro" how to act properly so they too can benefit from white parenting and culture.........

 

[Luddly Neddite]

Brian Levin, an attorney and criminologist, said the overall risk posed by anti-government groups is growing. Levin, who directs the nonpartisan Center for the Study of Hate & Extremism at California State University, said it was a "material change" that the militants in Oregon have moved from "mere rhetoric to action, and from action to forceful action."

"This is a significant milestone because we’re seeing now a coalescence of a grassroots organization, which is responding to events and trying to influence them through show of force," Levin said. "We’re seeing aggressive and criminal conduct to make this point."

The groups tend to lack central direction, sophisticated organization and recruiting networks. Some aren't groups at all, but loners or partnerships. That can make them less of an overall threat than Salafi jihadist groups like ISIS and al-Shabaab, Levin said.

Patriot groups "don’t have the organization or hierarchical power that say, ISIS does," Levin said. "Are they terrorists? As a technical matter, yes. But on the same hand, they’re not ISIS, and nor should our response to them" be the same.

Much like in the 2014 standoff at the Bundy ranch, federal officials in Oregon have thus far declined to take the bait by challenging the militants' "kill and be killed" stance.

Levin, who described himself as third-generation law enforcement, said the "less is more" approach to handling the militants will avoid opportunity for martyrdom or further notoriety.

"When things go south, the first question is always, 'Why didn’t you wait?'" Levin said. "A court order is still valid, and can be executed at a time and place of the government’s convenience. And no one gets killed. And we haven’t given these extremists fodder for their own recruitment efforts."

While a threat exists as long as the militants remain armed, Levin noted federal officials can afford to give the occupants room, since they effectively "put themselves in their own jail" by holing up in a remote and empty building with few snacks.

"Do you want to eat frozen Spam over a half-lit fire in a desolate tundra? Knockyourself out," Levin said. "It’s not like they occupied a resort in Maui.”

 

[Camp]

y

If someone get killed out of this insanity, yes.

Same thing was said when they were in Nevada, but no one got hurt and the Feds backed down.

The feds wisely decided bloodshed was not needed to secure a patch of vacant desert grassland. They put ego and emotion aside and decided to show patience. That, as can be seen now, was a mistake. The culprits have graduated from grazing land that they had some level of claim to, to taking over a multi-million dollar property that is currently used by citizens and generates the local economy for the local residents of that county. They have absolutely no viable valid claim to that property. Not only are visitors to this taxpayer owned attraction being denied access to their property, the local schools have closed due the threat of armed militia in the area and the plea from the trespasser thugs for more to come to the area.
This is what they are attempting to steal or have temporarily stolen from the taxpayers:

www.fws.gov/refuge/Malheur/about.html

You guys make me laugh. Everyone in the area has guns, but some folk hole themselves up in the middle of nowhere, presumably nowhere near schools, and kids can't go to school no more. If these were Islamic terrorists, you'd be screeching 'COWARDS' at the top of your voices at anyone who suggested such a thing. Lol.

It's a local call to close school. Isn't that what these yahoos are wanting? Local decision making?

They are holed up in the middle of nowhere with guns, there are no schools nearby.

The terrorist thugs have put out a call for armed supporters to come to their assistance and location. That means they have invited unknown persons, unknown to themselves or anyone else, to come into the community. The community has every right to take steps that will protect their children from being near an accidental or purposeful exchange of gunfire. It is their decision to make. One can only wonder what your reaction would be if a group of criminals invited random heavily armed men to flood into your area and be ready to fight with law enforcement officers and agencies. Would you want to send your kids to school while those random armed men were driving through your town and past your child's school?

 

[Luddly Neddite]

The Shot Heard Round the Word:
The Battles of Lexington and Concord

The clash began on April 19, 1775 when more about 700 British soldiers were given what they thought were secret orders to destroy colonial military supplies in Concord, Massachusetts. Fortunately, thanks to a rather elaborate colonial intelligence network, led by the Sons of Liberty, the Patriots were aware that their supplies were at risk, and were able to move them to different locations long before the British began to move. Also, thanks to the daring rides of a few brave men, the colonial militia knew that an engagement with the British Army was imminent.

The Shot Heard Round the World[/QUOT

Again, it's not about grazing rights. You guys don't have a whole brain between you.

And yet, you can't say what they want.

Megan Kelly? Was she bleeding again?

He dropped the part where Bundy said he does not want violence, but would fight back if they fired first.
These are American Citizens who want the Feds to control themselves under the Constitution and stop abusing the people.

Yeah, right.

You like to pretend you know everything about everything but when you're called on your know-it-all posts, you disappear or don't answer.

They want the Fed's to surrender the property they stole to state control.

Peach, that's a very old trick. He's going to keep pushing until someone in authority DOES fire, then claim 'they' shot first. IOW create a situation, then cry foul when the inevitable happens. The locals are wise to stay away and let this bunch of thugs make fools of themselves. As for the land...the Paiutes want it back too. And I missed the part in the Constitution where the Fed holding and leasing land is abuse. Can you tell me where to find it? I have a copy so I can refer to it if only I know where to look.

Feds holding and leasing BLM land is not abuse, but taking land that belongs to ranchers that holds deeds is.

peach174

EXACTLY what land do they own that the gubt has taken from them?

Please be precise.

I can't stay but I will check back for your answer because that one thing would change this completely.

 

[TyroneSlothrop]

Oregon Considers Wall to Keep Out Angry White Men - The New Yorker

Credit Photograph by Les Zaitz/The Oregonian via AP
The Borowitz Report)—A majority of Oregonians favor building a twenty-foot wall along the border of their state to prevent angry white men from getting in, a poll released on Monday shows.

 

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Fight them there so we don't have to fight them here. I hope a whole bunch of like-minded deadbeats show up to support their "free stuff" cause