Atheism: The fool's philosophy

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Why do many atheists and skeptics fight so hard to deny God if they don't believe He exists?

Christian author Ray Comfort (pictured below) may have a point when he says atheists know there is a God.

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In his book You Can Lead an Atheist to Evidence but You Can't Make Him Think (WND Books, 2009), Comfort said, “We don't have to prove that God exists to the professing atheist. This is because he intuitively knows that He exists. Every person has a God-given conscience. The Bible tells us that this is the 'work of the law written on their hearts'.”

Just as every sane human knows it's wrong to lie, steal, kill, and commit adultery, Comfort says, they also know that God should be first in their life.

Comfort's reasoning is this: People don't fight against something that doesn't exist, or something they don't believe exists.

That's why you don't see groups rising up to fight against the tooth fairy. You don't see professors in universities ridiculing the existence of Santa Claus. You don't see organizations mobilizing troops to denounce werewolves, bunyips, or leprechauns.

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Above: Atheist bus campaign creator Ariane Sherine with atheist Richard Dawkins.

What's different with atheists?
So what's different in the atheist's brain? If God doesn't exist, why do atheists such as Richard Dawkins care so passionately that some people believe in Him? Why do they bother writing books against the existence of God? Or waste time preparing videos for YouTube that ridicule God? Or fund ads on the side of London buses?

In fact, why do atheists bother acknowledging that people believe in God at all? People believe all sorts of ridiculous things that atheists don't care about, so why does it matter to them if one of those things is God?

Interestingly, the Bible gives some answers to this.

Psalm 14:1 says, “The fool has said in his heart, There is no God.” Atheists may be brilliant scholars or academics. They may be wonderful inventors, surgeons, or scientists. But if they say there is no God they are declaring themselves fools in spiritual matters. This is why atheism is sometimes called the fool's philosophy.

The Apostle Paul pointed out in Romans 2:15 that God has written intuitive knowledge of His law in our human conscience. In a wonderful passage in Romans 1:20 he says, “For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse.”

There is abundant evidence of God's handiwork written on our conscience and in nature all around us, and there is no excuse for not recognizing God's work in this.

Justifying our actions
So, what is at the core of the atheist's concern?

As sinful humans, we have an amazing tendency to try to justify our actions. This is something that sets us apart from the rest of the animal kingdom. We do something stupid and try to invent plausible reasons why we did it. Sometimes this is to fool others; sometimes it is to convince ourselves that we are not as stupid as our actions indicate.

Sometimes people who have taken a strong point of view on something wrong think it is their duty to get others on side, because there is safety in numbers. This is how cults form, and how dictators get away with murder.

If atheists know in their hearts that there really is a God, but they don't want to be accountable to God for their actions, then it starts to make sense why they try so hard to convince others that God doesn't exist.

This also explains why no-one bothers speaking out against belief in mermaids, pixies, and werewolves. People do not have the truth of these mythical creatures written in their hearts or on their conscience. Nor does nature declare anything about the majesty and power of leprechauns or hobgoblins.

So atheists must know intuitively that God exists. They just want to convince themselves and others that He doesn't exist because if He does it means they have made the worst decision of their lives to reject Him. And that has eternal consequences that are too horrible for them to contemplate.

God wants us to come to Him. He offers salvation to all, and has given two magnificent evidences of Himself. One is the overwhelming evidence of His physical creation all around us, and the other is the imprint of His existence in our conscience.

There should be no atheists. The fact that there are shows human rebellion and arrogance — not an intellectual discovery.
 
Because you God freaks have had control of society for way too long...Many lives were lost in the struggle for freedom from religion being forced upon society...
 
Many atheists do seem to be fighting to keep the door closed in God's face. Let us pray for them, that they open the door and let God in.
 
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"So atheists must know intuitively that God exists."

Typical ignorance and arrogance common to far too many Christians.
Not arrogance. Are you claiming that people do not intuitively know that things like stealing and murder are wrong? If not, why do all people possess this knowledge?
 
Anyone with a working brain should be able to see the obvious truth.

The universe was created by a flying old man with magical powers who sent his only son, himself, to Earth to 'save' all of mankind for the crimes of one man and woman and who are forced under penalty of torture in fire forever to beg him to forgive them for the crimes of said couple and love him and if they don't they get said eternal torture.

Because he loves them unconditionally.

Why is that so hard to believe? (extra dry sarcasm)
 
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Anyone with a working brain should be able to see the obvious truth.

The universe was created by a flying old man with magical powers who sent his only son, himself, to Earth to 'save' all of mankind for the crimes of one man and woman and who are forced under penalty of torture in fire forever to beg him to forgive them for the crimes of said couple and love him and if they don't they get said eternal torture.

Because he loves them unconditionally.

Why is that so hard to believe?
But that is called free will, a natural law...
 
"So atheists must know intuitively that God exists."

Typical ignorance and arrogance common to far too many Christians.
Not arrogance. Are you claiming that people do not intuitively know that things like stealing and murder are wrong? If not, why do all people possess this knowledge?
Why must children be indoctrinated with a religion, before they can intellectually compare the logic?
 
"So atheists must know intuitively that God exists."

Typical ignorance and arrogance common to far too many Christians.
Not arrogance. Are you claiming that people do not intuitively know that things like stealing and murder are wrong? If not, why do all people possess this knowledge?
Why must children be indoctrinated with a religion, before they can intellectually compare the logic?

Because if they are allowed to form their own opinion on it based on facts they gather as they grow up they generally reject it as farce. The movie 'The Village' demonstrates the principle with 'those of whom we don't speak'.
 
Why do many atheists and skeptics fight so hard to deny God if they don't believe He exists?

Christian author Ray Comfort (pictured below) may have a point when he says atheists know there is a God.

ray_comfort.jpg
In his book You Can Lead an Atheist to Evidence but You Can't Make Him Think (WND Books, 2009), Comfort said, “We don't have to prove that God exists to the professing atheist. This is because he intuitively knows that He exists. Every person has a God-given conscience. The Bible tells us that this is the 'work of the law written on their hearts'.”

Just as every sane human knows it's wrong to lie, steal, kill, and commit adultery, Comfort says, they also know that God should be first in their life.

Comfort's reasoning is this: People don't fight against something that doesn't exist, or something they don't believe exists.

That's why you don't see groups rising up to fight against the tooth fairy. You don't see professors in universities ridiculing the existence of Santa Claus. You don't see organizations mobilizing troops to denounce werewolves, bunyips, or leprechauns.

atheist_bus.jpg


Above: Atheist bus campaign creator Ariane Sherine with atheist Richard Dawkins.

What's different with atheists?
So what's different in the atheist's brain? If God doesn't exist, why do atheists such as Richard Dawkins care so passionately that some people believe in Him? Why do they bother writing books against the existence of God? Or waste time preparing videos for YouTube that ridicule God? Or fund ads on the side of London buses?

In fact, why do atheists bother acknowledging that people believe in God at all? People believe all sorts of ridiculous things that atheists don't care about, so why does it matter to them if one of those things is God?

Interestingly, the Bible gives some answers to this.

Psalm 14:1 says, “The fool has said in his heart, There is no God.” Atheists may be brilliant scholars or academics. They may be wonderful inventors, surgeons, or scientists. But if they say there is no God they are declaring themselves fools in spiritual matters. This is why atheism is sometimes called the fool's philosophy.

The Apostle Paul pointed out in Romans 2:15 that God has written intuitive knowledge of His law in our human conscience. In a wonderful passage in Romans 1:20 he says, “For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse.”

There is abundant evidence of God's handiwork written on our conscience and in nature all around us, and there is no excuse for not recognizing God's work in this.

Justifying our actions
So, what is at the core of the atheist's concern?

As sinful humans, we have an amazing tendency to try to justify our actions. This is something that sets us apart from the rest of the animal kingdom. We do something stupid and try to invent plausible reasons why we did it. Sometimes this is to fool others; sometimes it is to convince ourselves that we are not as stupid as our actions indicate.

Sometimes people who have taken a strong point of view on something wrong think it is their duty to get others on side, because there is safety in numbers. This is how cults form, and how dictators get away with murder.

If atheists know in their hearts that there really is a God, but they don't want to be accountable to God for their actions, then it starts to make sense why they try so hard to convince others that God doesn't exist.

This also explains why no-one bothers speaking out against belief in mermaids, pixies, and werewolves. People do not have the truth of these mythical creatures written in their hearts or on their conscience. Nor does nature declare anything about the majesty and power of leprechauns or hobgoblins.

So atheists must know intuitively that God exists. They just want to convince themselves and others that He doesn't exist because if He does it means they have made the worst decision of their lives to reject Him. And that has eternal consequences that are too horrible for them to contemplate.

God wants us to come to Him. He offers salvation to all, and has given two magnificent evidences of Himself. One is the overwhelming evidence of His physical creation all around us, and the other is the imprint of His existence in our conscience.

There should be no atheists. The fact that there are shows human rebellion and arrogance — not an intellectual discovery.

He's another jew making big bucks off of gentiles, laughing all the way to the bank. Boy if Christianity died out so many would be having to look for another job and the jews would have no more worshippers.
 
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"So atheists must know intuitively that God exists."

Typical ignorance and arrogance common to far too many Christians.
Not arrogance. Are you claiming that people do not intuitively know that things like stealing and murder are wrong? If not, why do all people possess this knowledge?
Why must children be indoctrinated with a religion, before they can intellectually compare the logic?

Because if they are allowed to form their own opinion on it based on facts they gather as they grow up they generally reject it as farce. The movie 'The Village' demonstrates the principle with 'those of whom we don't speak'.
i never forced religion at an early age on my kids, I did tell them to study religions to make their own determination if it was what they wanted..I had 15 years of indoctrination, till I was old enough to figure out the game..
 
Stupid christer Argument #23: Atheism is an empty philosophy. “There is no basis in atheism for morality. A consistent atheist would admit that the holocaust was not evil based on atheism. All that he can say is that stuff happens”

No basis in atheism for morality? There’s also none in chemistry, but so what? Atheism doesn’t propose to define or explain morality; it is simply the lack of god belief (or some close variant). That’s it. If you’re looking for a formalized approach to secular morality, consider the Humanist Manifesto or the Universal Declaration of Human Rights.

Seriously, Christians, avoid this one. It invites a critique of your own worldview which, unlike atheism, does claim to provide moral guidelines. And they suck. With a God that commands genocide and condones slavery, you live in a glass house.

25 Stupid Arguments Christians Should Avoid (Part 7)
 
Just as every sane human knows it's wrong to lie, steal, kill, and commit adultery, Comfort says, they also know that God should be first in their life.

I'm certainly not going to argue that all healthy people have a innate sense of right and wrong. In fact, so do other highly developed animals.
 
"So atheists must know intuitively that God exists."

Typical ignorance and arrogance common to far too many Christians.
Not arrogance. Are you claiming that people do not intuitively know that things like stealing and murder are wrong? If not, why do all people possess this knowledge?
Why must children be indoctrinated with a religion, before they can intellectually compare the logic?

Because if they are allowed to form their own opinion on it based on facts they gather as they grow up they generally reject it as farce. The movie 'The Village' demonstrates the principle with 'those of whom we don't speak'.
i never forced religion at an early age on my kids, I did tell them to study religions to make their own determination if it was what they wanted..I had 15 years of indoctrination, till I was old enough to figure out the game..

As it is with most people in every culture. Religion permeates the culture. Knowledge allows people escape velocity to break free from culture and self actualize and think freely.
 
This is the low IQ cult




Regarding Ray Comfort, the World's Stupidest Christian
the stupid christer doesn't realize banana's have been bred to be like that, the original bananas were nothing like that shape

The Atheist Experience™: Regarding Ray Comfort, the World's Stupidest Christian™


Banana argument - RationalWiki


The important fallacy of the argument is that it ignores the fact that the banana has been intelligently designed — by humans, through artificial selection. This is incredibly common for most, if not all, fruits, vegetables, and even animals that we use for food or to improve their utility to us in terms of ease of cultivation or taste. The banana was first domesticated around 8,000-9,000 years ago, somewhere in South and/or Southeast Asia, probably in today's Papua New Guinea[6] (which, following Comfort's logic, means that it was intelligently designed by some god worshiped there rather than by the Judeo-Christian God)
 
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Anyone with a working brain should be able to see the obvious truth.

The universe was created by a flying old man with magical powers who sent his only son, himself, to Earth to 'save' all of mankind for the crimes of one man and woman and who are forced under penalty of torture in fire forever to beg him to forgive them for the crimes of said couple and love him and if they don't they get said eternal torture.

Because he loves them unconditionally.

Why is that so hard to believe?
Stupid christer Argument #23: Atheism is an empty philosophy. “There is no basis in atheism for morality. A consistent atheist would admit that the holocaust was not evil based on atheism. All that he can say is that stuff happens”

No basis in atheism for morality? There’s also none in chemistry, but so what? Atheism doesn’t propose to define or explain morality; it is simply the lack of god belief (or some close variant). That’s it. If you’re looking for a formalized approach to secular morality, consider the Humanist Manifesto or the Universal Declaration of Human Rights.

Seriously, Christians, avoid this one. It invites a critique of your own worldview which, unlike atheism, does claim to provide moral guidelines. And they suck. With a God that commands genocide and condones slavery, you live in a glass house.

25 Stupid Arguments Christians Should Avoid (Part 7)
Your ignorance is...profound. The Bible does not condone slavery, and any genocide was against those who deserved it. Or do you think Child sacrifice is OK? At least one of the genocide victims you mentioned practiced it.
 

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