Atheism: The fool's philosophy

[forkup]

And what was the problem with the Sarecens? Before the crusades the Muslims allowed Christians access to the holy land. When the Christian armies took over Jerusalem they slaughtered everyone. When the Sarecents took Jerusalem back they spared most ppl. Who's the closest to Christianity there, you feel?

Where was that mentioned in the Old Testament?

You just condoned Genocide to those who deserved it. This is one of those Genocides. They did it all in God's name

Answer the question. Where was this mentioned in the OT? Did God command them to do it? I must have missed that. BTW, you do realize that anyone can claim that they act in the name of God. I would be highly suspicious of such claims, since God speaks to us only through the Bible. Now, answer the question.

It was the pope who ordered it. For the Catholic church, God's representative on earth. That is an undeniable fact. And btw unless you stone your son for not listening, disrespecting your parents and many others. You don't follow the OT either. So saying it wasn't God who commanded it so it wasn't religious is clearly a deflection on your part.

You do realize that the catholic church was the invention of a Pagan Emperor, right? What the CC does has nothing to do with God. It is a false religion with many pagan trappings and "traditions" that are not Biblical.

Ah now I understand. You are a follower of the 1 true fate so the litterally hundreds if not thousands of beliefs before you where wrong. This naturelly gives you the right, nay the duty to sit in moral judgement of all none believers. And this includes all of the spin offs of Christianity which aren't your particular belief. I see ,how reasonable.

 

[forkup]

Where was that mentioned in the Old Testament?

You just condoned Genocide to those who deserved it. This is one of those Genocides. They did it all in God's name

Answer the question. Where was this mentioned in the OT? Did God command them to do it? I must have missed that. BTW, you do realize that anyone can claim that they act in the name of God. I would be highly suspicious of such claims, since God speaks to us only through the Bible. Now, answer the question.

It was the pope who ordered it. For the Catholic church, God's representative on earth. That is an undeniable fact. And btw unless you stone your son for not listening, disrespecting your parents and many others. You don't follow the OT either. So saying it wasn't God who commanded it so it wasn't religious is clearly a deflection on your part.

You do realize that the catholic church was the invention of a Pagan Emperor, right? What the CC does has nothing to do with God. It is a false religion with many pagan trappings and "traditions" that are not Biblical.

Ah now I understand. You are a follower of the 1 true fate so the litterally hundreds if not thousands of beliefs before you where wrong. This naturelly gives you the right, nay the duty to sit in moral judgement of all none believers. And this includes all of the spin offs of Christianity which aren't your particular belief. I see how reasonable.

Cursing Parents
For every one that curseth his father or his mother shall be surely put to death: he hath cursed his father or his mother; his blood shall be upon him. Leviticus 20:9
Working on the Sabbath Whosoever doeth any work in the Sabbath day, he shall surely be put to death. Exodus 31:15

Premarital Sex (girls only)
. . .If, however, this charge is true, that evidence of the young woman’s virginity was not found, then they shall bring the young woman out to the entrance of her father’s house and the men of her town shall stone her to death, Deuteronomy 22:20

Disobedience (boys only)
If someone has a stubborn and rebellious son who will not obey his father and mother, who does not heed them when they discipline him, then his father and his mother shall take hold of him and bring him out to the elders of his town at the gate of that place. They shall say to the elders of his town, “This son of ours is stubborn and rebellious. He will not obey us. He is a glutton and a drunkard.” Then all the men of the town shall stone him to death. Deuteronomy 21:18

Worshipping any god but Yahweh
If there be found among you, within any of thy gates which the LORD thy God giveth thee, man or woman, that . . . hath gone and served other gods, and worshipped them, either the sun, or moon, or any of the host of heaven, which I have not commanded; . . .Then shalt thou bring forth that man or that woman, which have committed that wicked thing, unto thy gates, even that man or that woman, and shalt stone them with stones, till they die. Deuteronomy 17:2-5

Witches
Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live. Exodus 22: 18

Wizards (epileptics? migraine sufferers? schizophrenics?)
A man also or woman that hath a familiar spirit, or that is a wizard, shall surely be put to death: they shall stone them with stones: their blood shall be upon them. Leviticus 20:27

Loose Daughters of Clergy
And the daughter of any priest, if she profane herself by playing the whore, she profaneth her father: she shall be burnt with fire. Leviticus 21:9

Girls who are Raped within the City Limits
If there is a girl who is a virgin engaged to a man, and another man finds her in the city and lies with her, then you shall bring them both out to the gate of that city and you shall stone them to death; the girl, because she did not cry out in the city . . . But if in the field the man finds the girl who is engaged, and the man forces her and lies with her, then only the man who lies with her shall die. Deuteronomy 22:23-25

Blasphemers
And he that blasphemeth the name of the LORD, he shall surely be put to death, and all the congregation shall certainly stone him: as well the stranger, as he that is born in the land, when he blasphemeth the name of the Lord, shall be put to death. Leviticus 24:16

Anyone Who Tries to Deconvert Yahweh Worshipers
If anyone secretly entices you–even if it is your brother, your father’s son or your mother’s son, or your own son or daughter, or the wife you embrace, or your most intimate friend–saying, “Let us go worship other gods,” . . . you shall surely kill them; your own hand shall be first against them to execute them. Deuteronomy 12:6

Men who Lie With Men
If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them. Leviticus 20:13

Adulterers
And the man that committeth adultery with another man’s wife, even he that committeth adultery with his neighbour’s wife, the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death. And the man that lieth with his father’s wife hath uncovered his father’s nakedness: both of them shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them. And if a man lie with his daughter in law, both of them shall surely be put to death: they have wrought confusion; their blood shall be upon them. Leviticus 20: 10-12

Men who Lie with Beasts and Beasts who Lie with Men
And if a man lie with a beast, he shall surely be put to death: and ye shall slay the beast. Leviticus 20:15
This is all biblical and pretty non ambiguous, you agree with them all then since this is definitly bibliclal?

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Stupid christer Argument #23: Atheism is an empty philosophy. “There is no basis in atheism for morality. A consistent atheist would admit that the holocaust was not evil based on atheism. All that he can say is that stuff happens”

No basis in atheism for morality? There’s also none in chemistry, but so what? Atheism doesn’t propose to define or explain morality; it is simply the lack of god belief (or some close variant). That’s it. If you’re looking for a formalized approach to secular morality, consider the Humanist Manifesto or the Universal Declaration of Human Rights.

Seriously, Christians, avoid this one. It invites a critique of your own worldview which, unlike atheism, does claim to provide moral guidelines. And they suck. With a God that commands genocide and condones slavery, you live in a glass house.

25 Stupid Arguments Christians Should Avoid (Part 7)

Being free from faith is neither ‘philosophy’ nor ‘religion.’

It’s an acknowledgement of the fact that religion and ‘god’ as perceived by theists are creations of man; that religion evolved with man, a necessary psychological manifestation as man became aware of his own mortality and developed a need to find purpose and meaning in life.

With the advent of civilization came the notion of deities, a contrivance of both religion and politics.

Religion, faith, belief in a ‘god’ are all learned behaviors, in no way ‘innate'; doctrine which is taught and dogma which must be believed.

Those free from faith realize this fact, that proselytizers, prophets, and various and sundry holy men are simply repeating that which they were taught and learned either as children or adults from other men, words in a religious text and incantations of dogma absent facts or evidence that they were the consequence of ‘divine inspiration.’

Religion is man-centered, focusing on that which was created by man, imbued with man’s fear, ignorance, hate, and stupidity – in no way worthy of ‘worship,’ completely devoid of secular authority or merit.

Those free from faith seek only to live their lives as they see fit,
undisturbed by proselytizers, prophets, and various and sundry other holy men attempting to propagate their dogma of fear and retribution.

 

[Penelope]

Anyone with a working brain should be able to see the obvious truth.

The universe was created by a flying old man with magical powers who sent his only son, himself, to Earth to 'save' all of mankind for the crimes of one man and woman and who are forced under penalty of torture in fire forever to beg him to forgive them for the crimes of said couple and love him and if they don't they get said eternal torture.

Because he loves them unconditionally.

Why is that so hard to believe?

Stupid christer Argument #23: Atheism is an empty philosophy. “There is no basis in atheism for morality. A consistent atheist would admit that the holocaust was not evil based on atheism. All that he can say is that stuff happens”

No basis in atheism for morality? There’s also none in chemistry, but so what? Atheism doesn’t propose to define or explain morality; it is simply the lack of god belief (or some close variant). That’s it. If you’re looking for a formalized approach to secular morality, consider the Humanist Manifesto or the Universal Declaration of Human Rights.

Seriously, Christians, avoid this one. It invites a critique of your own worldview which, unlike atheism, does claim to provide moral guidelines. And they suck. With a God that commands genocide and condones slavery, you live in a glass house.

25 Stupid Arguments Christians Should Avoid (Part 7)

Your ignorance is...profound. The Bible does not condone slavery, and any genocide was against those who deserved it. Or do you think Child sacrifice is OK? At least one of the genocide victims you mentioned practiced it.

The jews sacrificed their kids according to the bible. So lets see Jews wrote the books and the people they committed genocide on were living on land the Jews wanted , so genocide was ok. They also blamed it on their war God so it was ok.
Slavery was ok in the bible, and Paul even told slaves to obey their masters.

 

[Penelope]

You just condoned Genocide to those who deserved it. This is one of those Genocides. They did it all in God's name

Answer the question. Where was this mentioned in the OT? Did God command them to do it? I must have missed that. BTW, you do realize that anyone can claim that they act in the name of God. I would be highly suspicious of such claims, since God speaks to us only through the Bible. Now, answer the question.

It was the pope who ordered it. For the Catholic church, God's representative on earth. That is an undeniable fact. And btw unless you stone your son for not listening, disrespecting your parents and many others. You don't follow the OT either. So saying it wasn't God who commanded it so it wasn't religious is clearly a deflection on your part.

You do realize that the catholic church was the invention of a Pagan Emperor, right? What the CC does has nothing to do with God. It is a false religion with many pagan trappings and "traditions" that are not Biblical.

Ah now I understand. You are a follower of the 1 true fate so the litterally hundreds if not thousands of beliefs before you where wrong. This naturelly gives you the right, nay the duty to sit in moral judgement of all none believers. And this includes all of the spin offs of Christianity which aren't your particular belief. I see how reasonable.

Cursing Parents
For every one that curseth his father or his mother shall be surely put to death: he hath cursed his father or his mother; his blood shall be upon him. Leviticus 20:9
Working on the Sabbath Whosoever doeth any work in the Sabbath day, he shall surely be put to death. Exodus 31:15

Premarital Sex (girls only)
. . .If, however, this charge is true, that evidence of the young woman’s virginity was not found, then they shall bring the young woman out to the entrance of her father’s house and the men of her town shall stone her to death, Deuteronomy 22:20

Disobedience (boys only)
If someone has a stubborn and rebellious son who will not obey his father and mother, who does not heed them when they discipline him, then his father and his mother shall take hold of him and bring him out to the elders of his town at the gate of that place. They shall say to the elders of his town, “This son of ours is stubborn and rebellious. He will not obey us. He is a glutton and a drunkard.” Then all the men of the town shall stone him to death. Deuteronomy 21:18

Worshipping any god but Yahweh
If there be found among you, within any of thy gates which the LORD thy God giveth thee, man or woman, that . . . hath gone and served other gods, and worshipped them, either the sun, or moon, or any of the host of heaven, which I have not commanded; . . .Then shalt thou bring forth that man or that woman, which have committed that wicked thing, unto thy gates, even that man or that woman, and shalt stone them with stones, till they die. Deuteronomy 17:2-5

Witches
Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live. Exodus 22: 18

Wizards (epileptics? migraine sufferers? schizophrenics?)
A man also or woman that hath a familiar spirit, or that is a wizard, shall surely be put to death: they shall stone them with stones: their blood shall be upon them. Leviticus 20:27

Loose Daughters of Clergy
And the daughter of any priest, if she profane herself by playing the whore, she profaneth her father: she shall be burnt with fire. Leviticus 21:9

Girls who are Raped within the City Limits
If there is a girl who is a virgin engaged to a man, and another man finds her in the city and lies with her, then you shall bring them both out to the gate of that city and you shall stone them to death; the girl, because she did not cry out in the city . . . But if in the field the man finds the girl who is engaged, and the man forces her and lies with her, then only the man who lies with her shall die. Deuteronomy 22:23-25

Blasphemers
And he that blasphemeth the name of the LORD, he shall surely be put to death, and all the congregation shall certainly stone him: as well the stranger, as he that is born in the land, when he blasphemeth the name of the Lord, shall be put to death. Leviticus 24:16

Anyone Who Tries to Deconvert Yahweh Worshipers
If anyone secretly entices you–even if it is your brother, your father’s son or your mother’s son, or your own son or daughter, or the wife you embrace, or your most intimate friend–saying, “Let us go worship other gods,” . . . you shall surely kill them; your own hand shall be first against them to execute them. Deuteronomy 12:6

Men who Lie With Men
If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them. Leviticus 20:13

Adulterers
And the man that committeth adultery with another man’s wife, even he that committeth adultery with his neighbour’s wife, the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death. And the man that lieth with his father’s wife hath uncovered his father’s nakedness: both of them shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them. And if a man lie with his daughter in law, both of them shall surely be put to death: they have wrought confusion; their blood shall be upon them. Leviticus 20: 10-12

Men who Lie with Beasts and Beasts who Lie with Men
And if a man lie with a beast, he shall surely be put to death: and ye shall slay the beast. Leviticus 20:15
This is all biblical and pretty non ambiguous, you agree with them all then since this is definitly bibliclal?

And to think we condemn Muslims , many follow the Jewish/ Christian bible better than Jews or Christians.

 

[forkup]

Answer the question. Where was this mentioned in the OT? Did God command them to do it? I must have missed that. BTW, you do realize that anyone can claim that they act in the name of God. I would be highly suspicious of such claims, since God speaks to us only through the Bible. Now, answer the question.

It was the pope who ordered it. For the Catholic church, God's representative on earth. That is an undeniable fact. And btw unless you stone your son for not listening, disrespecting your parents and many others. You don't follow the OT either. So saying it wasn't God who commanded it so it wasn't religious is clearly a deflection on your part.

You do realize that the catholic church was the invention of a Pagan Emperor, right? What the CC does has nothing to do with God. It is a false religion with many pagan trappings and "traditions" that are not Biblical.

Ah now I understand. You are a follower of the 1 true fate so the litterally hundreds if not thousands of beliefs before you where wrong. This naturelly gives you the right, nay the duty to sit in moral judgement of all none believers. And this includes all of the spin offs of Christianity which aren't your particular belief. I see how reasonable.

Cursing Parents
For every one that curseth his father or his mother shall be surely put to death: he hath cursed his father or his mother; his blood shall be upon him. Leviticus 20:9
Working on the Sabbath Whosoever doeth any work in the Sabbath day, he shall surely be put to death. Exodus 31:15

Premarital Sex (girls only)
. . .If, however, this charge is true, that evidence of the young woman’s virginity was not found, then they shall bring the young woman out to the entrance of her father’s house and the men of her town shall stone her to death, Deuteronomy 22:20

Disobedience (boys only)
If someone has a stubborn and rebellious son who will not obey his father and mother, who does not heed them when they discipline him, then his father and his mother shall take hold of him and bring him out to the elders of his town at the gate of that place. They shall say to the elders of his town, “This son of ours is stubborn and rebellious. He will not obey us. He is a glutton and a drunkard.” Then all the men of the town shall stone him to death. Deuteronomy 21:18

Worshipping any god but Yahweh
If there be found among you, within any of thy gates which the LORD thy God giveth thee, man or woman, that . . . hath gone and served other gods, and worshipped them, either the sun, or moon, or any of the host of heaven, which I have not commanded; . . .Then shalt thou bring forth that man or that woman, which have committed that wicked thing, unto thy gates, even that man or that woman, and shalt stone them with stones, till they die. Deuteronomy 17:2-5

Witches
Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live. Exodus 22: 18

Wizards (epileptics? migraine sufferers? schizophrenics?)
A man also or woman that hath a familiar spirit, or that is a wizard, shall surely be put to death: they shall stone them with stones: their blood shall be upon them. Leviticus 20:27

Loose Daughters of Clergy
And the daughter of any priest, if she profane herself by playing the whore, she profaneth her father: she shall be burnt with fire. Leviticus 21:9

Girls who are Raped within the City Limits
If there is a girl who is a virgin engaged to a man, and another man finds her in the city and lies with her, then you shall bring them both out to the gate of that city and you shall stone them to death; the girl, because she did not cry out in the city . . . But if in the field the man finds the girl who is engaged, and the man forces her and lies with her, then only the man who lies with her shall die. Deuteronomy 22:23-25

Blasphemers
And he that blasphemeth the name of the LORD, he shall surely be put to death, and all the congregation shall certainly stone him: as well the stranger, as he that is born in the land, when he blasphemeth the name of the Lord, shall be put to death. Leviticus 24:16

Anyone Who Tries to Deconvert Yahweh Worshipers
If anyone secretly entices you–even if it is your brother, your father’s son or your mother’s son, or your own son or daughter, or the wife you embrace, or your most intimate friend–saying, “Let us go worship other gods,” . . . you shall surely kill them; your own hand shall be first against them to execute them. Deuteronomy 12:6

Men who Lie With Men
If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them. Leviticus 20:13

Adulterers
And the man that committeth adultery with another man’s wife, even he that committeth adultery with his neighbour’s wife, the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death. And the man that lieth with his father’s wife hath uncovered his father’s nakedness: both of them shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them. And if a man lie with his daughter in law, both of them shall surely be put to death: they have wrought confusion; their blood shall be upon them. Leviticus 20: 10-12

Men who Lie with Beasts and Beasts who Lie with Men
And if a man lie with a beast, he shall surely be put to death: and ye shall slay the beast. Leviticus 20:15
This is all biblical and pretty non ambiguous, you agree with them all then since this is definitly bibliclal?

And to think we condemn Muslims , many follow the Jewish/ Christian bible better than Jews or Christians.

Lutroo is conspicuously quiet now. Lol that's what you get if you bring my mother into it.

 

[Lutroo]

It was the pope who ordered it. For the Catholic church, God's representative on earth. That is an undeniable fact. And btw unless you stone your son for not listening, disrespecting your parents and many others. You don't follow the OT either. So saying it wasn't God who commanded it so it wasn't religious is clearly a deflection on your part.

You do realize that the catholic church was the invention of a Pagan Emperor, right? What the CC does has nothing to do with God. It is a false religion with many pagan trappings and "traditions" that are not Biblical.

Ah now I understand. You are a follower of the 1 true fate so the litterally hundreds if not thousands of beliefs before you where wrong. This naturelly gives you the right, nay the duty to sit in moral judgement of all none believers. And this includes all of the spin offs of Christianity which aren't your particular belief. I see how reasonable.

Cursing Parents
For every one that curseth his father or his mother shall be surely put to death: he hath cursed his father or his mother; his blood shall be upon him. Leviticus 20:9
Working on the Sabbath Whosoever doeth any work in the Sabbath day, he shall surely be put to death. Exodus 31:15

Premarital Sex (girls only)
. . .If, however, this charge is true, that evidence of the young woman’s virginity was not found, then they shall bring the young woman out to the entrance of her father’s house and the men of her town shall stone her to death, Deuteronomy 22:20

Disobedience (boys only)
If someone has a stubborn and rebellious son who will not obey his father and mother, who does not heed them when they discipline him, then his father and his mother shall take hold of him and bring him out to the elders of his town at the gate of that place. They shall say to the elders of his town, “This son of ours is stubborn and rebellious. He will not obey us. He is a glutton and a drunkard.” Then all the men of the town shall stone him to death. Deuteronomy 21:18

Worshipping any god but Yahweh
If there be found among you, within any of thy gates which the LORD thy God giveth thee, man or woman, that . . . hath gone and served other gods, and worshipped them, either the sun, or moon, or any of the host of heaven, which I have not commanded; . . .Then shalt thou bring forth that man or that woman, which have committed that wicked thing, unto thy gates, even that man or that woman, and shalt stone them with stones, till they die. Deuteronomy 17:2-5

Witches
Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live. Exodus 22: 18

Wizards (epileptics? migraine sufferers? schizophrenics?)
A man also or woman that hath a familiar spirit, or that is a wizard, shall surely be put to death: they shall stone them with stones: their blood shall be upon them. Leviticus 20:27

Loose Daughters of Clergy
And the daughter of any priest, if she profane herself by playing the whore, she profaneth her father: she shall be burnt with fire. Leviticus 21:9

Girls who are Raped within the City Limits
If there is a girl who is a virgin engaged to a man, and another man finds her in the city and lies with her, then you shall bring them both out to the gate of that city and you shall stone them to death; the girl, because she did not cry out in the city . . . But if in the field the man finds the girl who is engaged, and the man forces her and lies with her, then only the man who lies with her shall die. Deuteronomy 22:23-25

Blasphemers
And he that blasphemeth the name of the LORD, he shall surely be put to death, and all the congregation shall certainly stone him: as well the stranger, as he that is born in the land, when he blasphemeth the name of the Lord, shall be put to death. Leviticus 24:16

Anyone Who Tries to Deconvert Yahweh Worshipers
If anyone secretly entices you–even if it is your brother, your father’s son or your mother’s son, or your own son or daughter, or the wife you embrace, or your most intimate friend–saying, “Let us go worship other gods,” . . . you shall surely kill them; your own hand shall be first against them to execute them. Deuteronomy 12:6

Men who Lie With Men
If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them. Leviticus 20:13

Adulterers
And the man that committeth adultery with another man’s wife, even he that committeth adultery with his neighbour’s wife, the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death. And the man that lieth with his father’s wife hath uncovered his father’s nakedness: both of them shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them. And if a man lie with his daughter in law, both of them shall surely be put to death: they have wrought confusion; their blood shall be upon them. Leviticus 20: 10-12

Men who Lie with Beasts and Beasts who Lie with Men
And if a man lie with a beast, he shall surely be put to death: and ye shall slay the beast. Leviticus 20:15
This is all biblical and pretty non ambiguous, you agree with them all then since this is definitly bibliclal?

And to think we condemn Muslims , many follow the Jewish/ Christian bible better than Jews or Christians.

Lutroo is conspicuously quiet now. Lol that's what you get if you bring my mother into it.

Nope. I simply know when it's pointless to argue with someone. Believe whatever you like. I really don't care.

 

[forkup]

You do realize that the catholic church was the invention of a Pagan Emperor, right? What the CC does has nothing to do with God. It is a false religion with many pagan trappings and "traditions" that are not Biblical.

Ah now I understand. You are a follower of the 1 true fate so the litterally hundreds if not thousands of beliefs before you where wrong. This naturelly gives you the right, nay the duty to sit in moral judgement of all none believers. And this includes all of the spin offs of Christianity which aren't your particular belief. I see how reasonable.

Cursing Parents
For every one that curseth his father or his mother shall be surely put to death: he hath cursed his father or his mother; his blood shall be upon him. Leviticus 20:9
Working on the Sabbath Whosoever doeth any work in the Sabbath day, he shall surely be put to death. Exodus 31:15

Premarital Sex (girls only)
. . .If, however, this charge is true, that evidence of the young woman’s virginity was not found, then they shall bring the young woman out to the entrance of her father’s house and the men of her town shall stone her to death, Deuteronomy 22:20

Disobedience (boys only)
If someone has a stubborn and rebellious son who will not obey his father and mother, who does not heed them when they discipline him, then his father and his mother shall take hold of him and bring him out to the elders of his town at the gate of that place. They shall say to the elders of his town, “This son of ours is stubborn and rebellious. He will not obey us. He is a glutton and a drunkard.” Then all the men of the town shall stone him to death. Deuteronomy 21:18

Worshipping any god but Yahweh
If there be found among you, within any of thy gates which the LORD thy God giveth thee, man or woman, that . . . hath gone and served other gods, and worshipped them, either the sun, or moon, or any of the host of heaven, which I have not commanded; . . .Then shalt thou bring forth that man or that woman, which have committed that wicked thing, unto thy gates, even that man or that woman, and shalt stone them with stones, till they die. Deuteronomy 17:2-5

Witches
Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live. Exodus 22: 18

Wizards (epileptics? migraine sufferers? schizophrenics?)
A man also or woman that hath a familiar spirit, or that is a wizard, shall surely be put to death: they shall stone them with stones: their blood shall be upon them. Leviticus 20:27

Loose Daughters of Clergy
And the daughter of any priest, if she profane herself by playing the whore, she profaneth her father: she shall be burnt with fire. Leviticus 21:9

Girls who are Raped within the City Limits
If there is a girl who is a virgin engaged to a man, and another man finds her in the city and lies with her, then you shall bring them both out to the gate of that city and you shall stone them to death; the girl, because she did not cry out in the city . . . But if in the field the man finds the girl who is engaged, and the man forces her and lies with her, then only the man who lies with her shall die. Deuteronomy 22:23-25

Blasphemers
And he that blasphemeth the name of the LORD, he shall surely be put to death, and all the congregation shall certainly stone him: as well the stranger, as he that is born in the land, when he blasphemeth the name of the Lord, shall be put to death. Leviticus 24:16

Anyone Who Tries to Deconvert Yahweh Worshipers
If anyone secretly entices you–even if it is your brother, your father’s son or your mother’s son, or your own son or daughter, or the wife you embrace, or your most intimate friend–saying, “Let us go worship other gods,” . . . you shall surely kill them; your own hand shall be first against them to execute them. Deuteronomy 12:6

Men who Lie With Men
If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them. Leviticus 20:13

Adulterers
And the man that committeth adultery with another man’s wife, even he that committeth adultery with his neighbour’s wife, the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death. And the man that lieth with his father’s wife hath uncovered his father’s nakedness: both of them shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them. And if a man lie with his daughter in law, both of them shall surely be put to death: they have wrought confusion; their blood shall be upon them. Leviticus 20: 10-12

Men who Lie with Beasts and Beasts who Lie with Men
And if a man lie with a beast, he shall surely be put to death: and ye shall slay the beast. Leviticus 20:15
This is all biblical and pretty non ambiguous, you agree with them all then since this is definitly bibliclal?

And to think we condemn Muslims , many follow the Jewish/ Christian bible better than Jews or Christians.

Lutroo is conspicuously quiet now. Lol that's what you get if you bring my mother into it.

Nope. I simply know when it's pointless to argue with someone. Believe whatever you like. I really don't care.

Ah the I don't care. It's pointless anyway argument. Heard it before. If you're on a forum like this especially if you put out OP's like you do ,it sounds a bit hollow, but ok.

 

[guno]

This is the low IQ cult




Regarding Ray Comfort, the World's Stupidest Christian
the stupid christer doesn't realize banana's have been bred to be like that, the original bananas were nothing like that shape

The Atheist Experience™: Regarding Ray Comfort, the World's Stupidest Christian™

I guess yo failed to realize that it was satire, as Ray himself claimed it was.

fail

only after that kook was called on it

 

[Lutroo]

Ah now I understand. You are a follower of the 1 true fate so the litterally hundreds if not thousands of beliefs before you where wrong. This naturelly gives you the right, nay the duty to sit in moral judgement of all none believers. And this includes all of the spin offs of Christianity which aren't your particular belief. I see how reasonable.

Cursing Parents
For every one that curseth his father or his mother shall be surely put to death: he hath cursed his father or his mother; his blood shall be upon him. Leviticus 20:9
Working on the Sabbath Whosoever doeth any work in the Sabbath day, he shall surely be put to death. Exodus 31:15

Premarital Sex (girls only)
. . .If, however, this charge is true, that evidence of the young woman’s virginity was not found, then they shall bring the young woman out to the entrance of her father’s house and the men of her town shall stone her to death, Deuteronomy 22:20

Disobedience (boys only)
If someone has a stubborn and rebellious son who will not obey his father and mother, who does not heed them when they discipline him, then his father and his mother shall take hold of him and bring him out to the elders of his town at the gate of that place. They shall say to the elders of his town, “This son of ours is stubborn and rebellious. He will not obey us. He is a glutton and a drunkard.” Then all the men of the town shall stone him to death. Deuteronomy 21:18

Worshipping any god but Yahweh
If there be found among you, within any of thy gates which the LORD thy God giveth thee, man or woman, that . . . hath gone and served other gods, and worshipped them, either the sun, or moon, or any of the host of heaven, which I have not commanded; . . .Then shalt thou bring forth that man or that woman, which have committed that wicked thing, unto thy gates, even that man or that woman, and shalt stone them with stones, till they die. Deuteronomy 17:2-5

Witches
Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live. Exodus 22: 18

Wizards (epileptics? migraine sufferers? schizophrenics?)
A man also or woman that hath a familiar spirit, or that is a wizard, shall surely be put to death: they shall stone them with stones: their blood shall be upon them. Leviticus 20:27

Loose Daughters of Clergy
And the daughter of any priest, if she profane herself by playing the whore, she profaneth her father: she shall be burnt with fire. Leviticus 21:9

Girls who are Raped within the City Limits
If there is a girl who is a virgin engaged to a man, and another man finds her in the city and lies with her, then you shall bring them both out to the gate of that city and you shall stone them to death; the girl, because she did not cry out in the city . . . But if in the field the man finds the girl who is engaged, and the man forces her and lies with her, then only the man who lies with her shall die. Deuteronomy 22:23-25

Blasphemers
And he that blasphemeth the name of the LORD, he shall surely be put to death, and all the congregation shall certainly stone him: as well the stranger, as he that is born in the land, when he blasphemeth the name of the Lord, shall be put to death. Leviticus 24:16

Anyone Who Tries to Deconvert Yahweh Worshipers
If anyone secretly entices you–even if it is your brother, your father’s son or your mother’s son, or your own son or daughter, or the wife you embrace, or your most intimate friend–saying, “Let us go worship other gods,” . . . you shall surely kill them; your own hand shall be first against them to execute them. Deuteronomy 12:6

Men who Lie With Men
If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them. Leviticus 20:13

Adulterers
And the man that committeth adultery with another man’s wife, even he that committeth adultery with his neighbour’s wife, the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death. And the man that lieth with his father’s wife hath uncovered his father’s nakedness: both of them shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them. And if a man lie with his daughter in law, both of them shall surely be put to death: they have wrought confusion; their blood shall be upon them. Leviticus 20: 10-12

Men who Lie with Beasts and Beasts who Lie with Men
And if a man lie with a beast, he shall surely be put to death: and ye shall slay the beast. Leviticus 20:15
This is all biblical and pretty non ambiguous, you agree with them all then since this is definitly bibliclal?

And to think we condemn Muslims , many follow the Jewish/ Christian bible better than Jews or Christians.

Lutroo is conspicuously quiet now. Lol that's what you get if you bring my mother into it.

Nope. I simply know when it's pointless to argue with someone. Believe whatever you like. I really don't care.

Ah the I don't care. It's pointless anyway argument. Heard it before. If you're on a forum like this especially if you put out OP's like you do ,it sounds a bit hollow, but ok.

I speak the truth. Nothing I say will convince some people, no matter what evidence is provided. So it's pointless to continue. It's easy to spot people like this. They are not interested in honest debate. They only care about winning an argument. So I ignore them.

 

[Lutroo]

So, you're saying he was lying, without any evidence? Got it.

 

[jillian]

Why do many atheists and skeptics fight so hard to deny God if they don't believe He exists?

Christian author Ray Comfort (pictured below) may have a point when he says atheists know there is a God.

In his book You Can Lead an Atheist to Evidence but You Can't Make Him Think (WND Books, 2009), Comfort said, “We don't have to prove that God exists to the professing atheist. This is because he intuitively knows that He exists. Every person has a God-given conscience. The Bible tells us that this is the 'work of the law written on their hearts'.”

Just as every sane human knows it's wrong to lie, steal, kill, and commit adultery, Comfort says, they also know that God should be first in their life.

Comfort's reasoning is this: People don't fight against something that doesn't exist, or something they don't believe exists.

That's why you don't see groups rising up to fight against the tooth fairy. You don't see professors in universities ridiculing the existence of Santa Claus. You don't see organizations mobilizing troops to denounce werewolves, bunyips, or leprechauns.

Above: Atheist bus campaign creator Ariane Sherine with atheist Richard Dawkins.

What's different with atheists?
So what's different in the atheist's brain? If God doesn't exist, why do atheists such as Richard Dawkins care so passionately that some people believe in Him? Why do they bother writing books against the existence of God? Or waste time preparing videos for YouTube that ridicule God? Or fund ads on the side of London buses?

In fact, why do atheists bother acknowledging that people believe in God at all? People believe all sorts of ridiculous things that atheists don't care about, so why does it matter to them if one of those things is God?

Interestingly, the Bible gives some answers to this.

Psalm 14:1 says, “The fool has said in his heart, There is no God.” Atheists may be brilliant scholars or academics. They may be wonderful inventors, surgeons, or scientists. But if they say there is no God they are declaring themselves fools in spiritual matters. This is why atheism is sometimes called the fool's philosophy.

The Apostle Paul pointed out in Romans 2:15 that God has written intuitive knowledge of His law in our human conscience. In a wonderful passage in Romans 1:20 he says, “For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse.”

There is abundant evidence of God's handiwork written on our conscience and in nature all around us, and there is no excuse for not recognizing God's work in this.

Justifying our actions
So, what is at the core of the atheist's concern?

As sinful humans, we have an amazing tendency to try to justify our actions. This is something that sets us apart from the rest of the animal kingdom. We do something stupid and try to invent plausible reasons why we did it. Sometimes this is to fool others; sometimes it is to convince ourselves that we are not as stupid as our actions indicate.

Sometimes people who have taken a strong point of view on something wrong think it is their duty to get others on side, because there is safety in numbers. This is how cults form, and how dictators get away with murder.

If atheists know in their hearts that there really is a God, but they don't want to be accountable to God for their actions, then it starts to make sense why they try so hard to convince others that God doesn't exist.

This also explains why no-one bothers speaking out against belief in mermaids, pixies, and werewolves. People do not have the truth of these mythical creatures written in their hearts or on their conscience. Nor does nature declare anything about the majesty and power of leprechauns or hobgoblins.

So atheists must know intuitively that God exists. They just want to convince themselves and others that He doesn't exist because if He does it means they have made the worst decision of their lives to reject Him. And that has eternal consequences that are too horrible for them to contemplate.

God wants us to come to Him. He offers salvation to all, and has given two magnificent evidences of Himself. One is the overwhelming evidence of His physical creation all around us, and the other is the imprint of His existence in our conscience.

There should be no atheists. The fact that there are shows human rebellion and arrogance — not an intellectual discovery.

Why would anyone care about the arrogant opinion if a "Christian" author? Perhaps you should worry about your own beliefs and leave everyone else alone?

I could say the same about atheists. They now control most everything, including public schools and universities. Why don't YOU worry about your own beliefs and leave the rest of us alone?

No you can't religious zealots think they need to shove their beliefs down everyone else's throats. Most atheists feel no need to proselytize except in response to arrigant self-serving garbage like your post

And mind you, I'm not an atheist. I simply know your beliefs are nonsense

 

[Lutroo]

Why do many atheists and skeptics fight so hard to deny God if they don't believe He exists?

Christian author Ray Comfort (pictured below) may have a point when he says atheists know there is a God.

In his book You Can Lead an Atheist to Evidence but You Can't Make Him Think (WND Books, 2009), Comfort said, “We don't have to prove that God exists to the professing atheist. This is because he intuitively knows that He exists. Every person has a God-given conscience. The Bible tells us that this is the 'work of the law written on their hearts'.”

Just as every sane human knows it's wrong to lie, steal, kill, and commit adultery, Comfort says, they also know that God should be first in their life.

Comfort's reasoning is this: People don't fight against something that doesn't exist, or something they don't believe exists.

That's why you don't see groups rising up to fight against the tooth fairy. You don't see professors in universities ridiculing the existence of Santa Claus. You don't see organizations mobilizing troops to denounce werewolves, bunyips, or leprechauns.

Above: Atheist bus campaign creator Ariane Sherine with atheist Richard Dawkins.

What's different with atheists?
So what's different in the atheist's brain? If God doesn't exist, why do atheists such as Richard Dawkins care so passionately that some people believe in Him? Why do they bother writing books against the existence of God? Or waste time preparing videos for YouTube that ridicule God? Or fund ads on the side of London buses?

In fact, why do atheists bother acknowledging that people believe in God at all? People believe all sorts of ridiculous things that atheists don't care about, so why does it matter to them if one of those things is God?

Interestingly, the Bible gives some answers to this.

Psalm 14:1 says, “The fool has said in his heart, There is no God.” Atheists may be brilliant scholars or academics. They may be wonderful inventors, surgeons, or scientists. But if they say there is no God they are declaring themselves fools in spiritual matters. This is why atheism is sometimes called the fool's philosophy.

The Apostle Paul pointed out in Romans 2:15 that God has written intuitive knowledge of His law in our human conscience. In a wonderful passage in Romans 1:20 he says, “For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse.”

There is abundant evidence of God's handiwork written on our conscience and in nature all around us, and there is no excuse for not recognizing God's work in this.

Justifying our actions
So, what is at the core of the atheist's concern?

As sinful humans, we have an amazing tendency to try to justify our actions. This is something that sets us apart from the rest of the animal kingdom. We do something stupid and try to invent plausible reasons why we did it. Sometimes this is to fool others; sometimes it is to convince ourselves that we are not as stupid as our actions indicate.

Sometimes people who have taken a strong point of view on something wrong think it is their duty to get others on side, because there is safety in numbers. This is how cults form, and how dictators get away with murder.

If atheists know in their hearts that there really is a God, but they don't want to be accountable to God for their actions, then it starts to make sense why they try so hard to convince others that God doesn't exist.

This also explains why no-one bothers speaking out against belief in mermaids, pixies, and werewolves. People do not have the truth of these mythical creatures written in their hearts or on their conscience. Nor does nature declare anything about the majesty and power of leprechauns or hobgoblins.

So atheists must know intuitively that God exists. They just want to convince themselves and others that He doesn't exist because if He does it means they have made the worst decision of their lives to reject Him. And that has eternal consequences that are too horrible for them to contemplate.

God wants us to come to Him. He offers salvation to all, and has given two magnificent evidences of Himself. One is the overwhelming evidence of His physical creation all around us, and the other is the imprint of His existence in our conscience.

There should be no atheists. The fact that there are shows human rebellion and arrogance — not an intellectual discovery.

Why would anyone care about the arrogant opinion if a "Christian" author? Perhaps you should worry about your own beliefs and leave everyone else alone?

I could say the same about atheists. They now control most everything, including public schools and universities. Why don't YOU worry about your own beliefs and leave the rest of us alone?

No you can't religious zealots think they need to shove their beliefs down everyone else's throats. Most atheists feel no need to proselytize except in response to arrigant self-serving garbage like your post

And mind you, I'm not an atheist. I simply know your beliefs are nonsense

What, exactly, is a religious zealot? And do you have a problem with someone sharing their Christian faith with someone? And would you have a problem with a muslim doing the same thing?

 

[Moonglow]

Why do many atheists and skeptics fight so hard to deny God if they don't believe He exists?

Christian author Ray Comfort (pictured below) may have a point when he says atheists know there is a God.

In his book You Can Lead an Atheist to Evidence but You Can't Make Him Think (WND Books, 2009), Comfort said, “We don't have to prove that God exists to the professing atheist. This is because he intuitively knows that He exists. Every person has a God-given conscience. The Bible tells us that this is the 'work of the law written on their hearts'.”

Just as every sane human knows it's wrong to lie, steal, kill, and commit adultery, Comfort says, they also know that God should be first in their life.

Comfort's reasoning is this: People don't fight against something that doesn't exist, or something they don't believe exists.

That's why you don't see groups rising up to fight against the tooth fairy. You don't see professors in universities ridiculing the existence of Santa Claus. You don't see organizations mobilizing troops to denounce werewolves, bunyips, or leprechauns.

Above: Atheist bus campaign creator Ariane Sherine with atheist Richard Dawkins.

What's different with atheists?
So what's different in the atheist's brain? If God doesn't exist, why do atheists such as Richard Dawkins care so passionately that some people believe in Him? Why do they bother writing books against the existence of God? Or waste time preparing videos for YouTube that ridicule God? Or fund ads on the side of London buses?

In fact, why do atheists bother acknowledging that people believe in God at all? People believe all sorts of ridiculous things that atheists don't care about, so why does it matter to them if one of those things is God?

Interestingly, the Bible gives some answers to this.

Psalm 14:1 says, “The fool has said in his heart, There is no God.” Atheists may be brilliant scholars or academics. They may be wonderful inventors, surgeons, or scientists. But if they say there is no God they are declaring themselves fools in spiritual matters. This is why atheism is sometimes called the fool's philosophy.

The Apostle Paul pointed out in Romans 2:15 that God has written intuitive knowledge of His law in our human conscience. In a wonderful passage in Romans 1:20 he says, “For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse.”

There is abundant evidence of God's handiwork written on our conscience and in nature all around us, and there is no excuse for not recognizing God's work in this.

Justifying our actions
So, what is at the core of the atheist's concern?

As sinful humans, we have an amazing tendency to try to justify our actions. This is something that sets us apart from the rest of the animal kingdom. We do something stupid and try to invent plausible reasons why we did it. Sometimes this is to fool others; sometimes it is to convince ourselves that we are not as stupid as our actions indicate.

Sometimes people who have taken a strong point of view on something wrong think it is their duty to get others on side, because there is safety in numbers. This is how cults form, and how dictators get away with murder.

If atheists know in their hearts that there really is a God, but they don't want to be accountable to God for their actions, then it starts to make sense why they try so hard to convince others that God doesn't exist.

This also explains why no-one bothers speaking out against belief in mermaids, pixies, and werewolves. People do not have the truth of these mythical creatures written in their hearts or on their conscience. Nor does nature declare anything about the majesty and power of leprechauns or hobgoblins.

So atheists must know intuitively that God exists. They just want to convince themselves and others that He doesn't exist because if He does it means they have made the worst decision of their lives to reject Him. And that has eternal consequences that are too horrible for them to contemplate.

God wants us to come to Him. He offers salvation to all, and has given two magnificent evidences of Himself. One is the overwhelming evidence of His physical creation all around us, and the other is the imprint of His existence in our conscience.

There should be no atheists. The fact that there are shows human rebellion and arrogance — not an intellectual discovery.

Why would anyone care about the arrogant opinion if a "Christian" author? Perhaps you should worry about your own beliefs and leave everyone else alone?

I could say the same about atheists. They now control most everything, including public schools and universities. Why don't YOU worry about your own beliefs and leave the rest of us alone?

No you can't religious zealots think they need to shove their beliefs down everyone else's throats. Most atheists feel no need to proselytize except in response to arrigant self-serving garbage like your post

And mind you, I'm not an atheist. I simply know your beliefs are nonsense

What, exactly, is a religious zealot? And do you have a problem with someone sharing their Christian faith with someone? And would you have a problem with a muslim doing the same thing?

Which Christian faith?

 

[forkup]

Cursing Parents
For every one that curseth his father or his mother shall be surely put to death: he hath cursed his father or his mother; his blood shall be upon him. Leviticus 20:9
Working on the Sabbath Whosoever doeth any work in the Sabbath day, he shall surely be put to death. Exodus 31:15

Premarital Sex (girls only)
. . .If, however, this charge is true, that evidence of the young woman’s virginity was not found, then they shall bring the young woman out to the entrance of her father’s house and the men of her town shall stone her to death, Deuteronomy 22:20

Disobedience (boys only)
If someone has a stubborn and rebellious son who will not obey his father and mother, who does not heed them when they discipline him, then his father and his mother shall take hold of him and bring him out to the elders of his town at the gate of that place. They shall say to the elders of his town, “This son of ours is stubborn and rebellious. He will not obey us. He is a glutton and a drunkard.” Then all the men of the town shall stone him to death. Deuteronomy 21:18

Worshipping any god but Yahweh
If there be found among you, within any of thy gates which the LORD thy God giveth thee, man or woman, that . . . hath gone and served other gods, and worshipped them, either the sun, or moon, or any of the host of heaven, which I have not commanded; . . .Then shalt thou bring forth that man or that woman, which have committed that wicked thing, unto thy gates, even that man or that woman, and shalt stone them with stones, till they die. Deuteronomy 17:2-5

Witches
Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live. Exodus 22: 18

Wizards (epileptics? migraine sufferers? schizophrenics?)
A man also or woman that hath a familiar spirit, or that is a wizard, shall surely be put to death: they shall stone them with stones: their blood shall be upon them. Leviticus 20:27

Loose Daughters of Clergy
And the daughter of any priest, if she profane herself by playing the whore, she profaneth her father: she shall be burnt with fire. Leviticus 21:9

Girls who are Raped within the City Limits
If there is a girl who is a virgin engaged to a man, and another man finds her in the city and lies with her, then you shall bring them both out to the gate of that city and you shall stone them to death; the girl, because she did not cry out in the city . . . But if in the field the man finds the girl who is engaged, and the man forces her and lies with her, then only the man who lies with her shall die. Deuteronomy 22:23-25

Blasphemers
And he that blasphemeth the name of the LORD, he shall surely be put to death, and all the congregation shall certainly stone him: as well the stranger, as he that is born in the land, when he blasphemeth the name of the Lord, shall be put to death. Leviticus 24:16

Anyone Who Tries to Deconvert Yahweh Worshipers
If anyone secretly entices you–even if it is your brother, your father’s son or your mother’s son, or your own son or daughter, or the wife you embrace, or your most intimate friend–saying, “Let us go worship other gods,” . . . you shall surely kill them; your own hand shall be first against them to execute them. Deuteronomy 12:6

Men who Lie With Men
If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them. Leviticus 20:13

Adulterers
And the man that committeth adultery with another man’s wife, even he that committeth adultery with his neighbour’s wife, the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death. And the man that lieth with his father’s wife hath uncovered his father’s nakedness: both of them shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them. And if a man lie with his daughter in law, both of them shall surely be put to death: they have wrought confusion; their blood shall be upon them. Leviticus 20: 10-12

Men who Lie with Beasts and Beasts who Lie with Men
And if a man lie with a beast, he shall surely be put to death: and ye shall slay the beast. Leviticus 20:15
This is all biblical and pretty non ambiguous, you agree with them all then since this is definitly bibliclal?

And to think we condemn Muslims , many follow the Jewish/ Christian bible better than Jews or Christians.

Lutroo is conspicuously quiet now. Lol that's what you get if you bring my mother into it.

Nope. I simply know when it's pointless to argue with someone. Believe whatever you like. I really don't care.

Ah the I don't care. It's pointless anyway argument. Heard it before. If you're on a forum like this especially if you put out OP's like you do ,it sounds a bit hollow, but ok.

I speak the truth. Nothing I say will convince some people, no matter what evidence is provided. So it's pointless to continue. It's easy to spot people like this. They are not interested in honest debate. They only care about winning an argument. So I ignore them.

Well if you would actually would provide some evidence. As it is now, the only thing I got from you is I believe the bible litteraly. I showed you some actual bible quotes wich aren't compatible with our modern humanist morality. So either you truly believe, in wich case, you believe some truly disturbing things, or you interpret the bible just like all religious ppl do and just take the things wich you feel are appropriate.Wich is it?

 

[Lutroo]

And to think we condemn Muslims , many follow the Jewish/ Christian bible better than Jews or Christians.

Lutroo is conspicuously quiet now. Lol that's what you get if you bring my mother into it.

Nope. I simply know when it's pointless to argue with someone. Believe whatever you like. I really don't care.

Ah the I don't care. It's pointless anyway argument. Heard it before. If you're on a forum like this especially if you put out OP's like you do ,it sounds a bit hollow, but ok.

I speak the truth. Nothing I say will convince some people, no matter what evidence is provided. So it's pointless to continue. It's easy to spot people like this. They are not interested in honest debate. They only care about winning an argument. So I ignore them.

Well if you would actually would provide some evidence. As it is now, the only thing I got from you is I believe the bible litteraly. I showed you some actual bible quotes wich aren't compatible with our modern humanist morality. So either you truly believe, in wich case, you believe some truly disturbing things, or you interpret the bible just like all religious ppl do and just take the things wich you feel are appropriate.Wich is it?

If I thought that you were actually interested in understanding it, I'd try. You might want to Google Christianity and Jewish law. You might learn something. It's not my job to educate you. Especially if you're not interested.

 

[forkup]

Lutroo is conspicuously quiet now. Lol that's what you get if you bring my mother into it.

Nope. I simply know when it's pointless to argue with someone. Believe whatever you like. I really don't care.

Ah the I don't care. It's pointless anyway argument. Heard it before. If you're on a forum like this especially if you put out OP's like you do ,it sounds a bit hollow, but ok.

I speak the truth. Nothing I say will convince some people, no matter what evidence is provided. So it's pointless to continue. It's easy to spot people like this. They are not interested in honest debate. They only care about winning an argument. So I ignore them.

Well if you would actually would provide some evidence. As it is now, the only thing I got from you is I believe the bible litteraly. I showed you some actual bible quotes wich aren't compatible with our modern humanist morality. So either you truly believe, in wich case, you believe some truly disturbing things, or you interpret the bible just like all religious ppl do and just take the things wich you feel are appropriate.Wich is it?

If I thought that you were actually interested in understanding it, I'd try. You might want to Google Christianity and Jewish law. You might learn something. It's not my job to educate you. Especially if you're not interested.

I'll give you that much Lutroo, you know how to dodge a direct question. Anyways I'm sorry you are not willing to really debate, no matter you've proven to me exactly what you are.

 

[guno]

Lutroo is conspicuously quiet now. Lol that's what you get if you bring my mother into it.

Nope. I simply know when it's pointless to argue with someone. Believe whatever you like. I really don't care.

Ah the I don't care. It's pointless anyway argument. Heard it before. If you're on a forum like this especially if you put out OP's like you do ,it sounds a bit hollow, but ok.

I speak the truth. Nothing I say will convince some people, no matter what evidence is provided. So it's pointless to continue. It's easy to spot people like this. They are not interested in honest debate. They only care about winning an argument. So I ignore them.

Well if you would actually would provide some evidence. As it is now, the only thing I got from you is I believe the bible litteraly. I showed you some actual bible quotes wich aren't compatible with our modern humanist morality. So either you truly believe, in wich case, you believe some truly disturbing things, or you interpret the bible just like all religious ppl do and just take the things wich you feel are appropriate.Wich is it?

If I thought that you were actually interested in understanding it, I'd try. You might want to Google Christianity and Jewish law. You might learn something. It's not my job to educate you. Especially if you're not interested.

now education for the goy

Christians like to think that Christianity is just another form of Judaism. This is incorrect.

The first thing you have to understand is that to Judaism, Jesus is a foreign god.

Yes, it is true, as a few people have written to me, that Christians themselves assert that they worship the same G-d we do. This is really misdirection, even when it is unintentional. Judaism has strict Laws and Guidelines to define these things, and Christian beliefs in Jesus contravene those Laws and Guidelines.

Is Christianity a form of Judaism?

 

[Lutroo]

Nope. I simply know when it's pointless to argue with someone. Believe whatever you like. I really don't care.

Ah the I don't care. It's pointless anyway argument. Heard it before. If you're on a forum like this especially if you put out OP's like you do ,it sounds a bit hollow, but ok.

I speak the truth. Nothing I say will convince some people, no matter what evidence is provided. So it's pointless to continue. It's easy to spot people like this. They are not interested in honest debate. They only care about winning an argument. So I ignore them.

Well if you would actually would provide some evidence. As it is now, the only thing I got from you is I believe the bible litteraly. I showed you some actual bible quotes wich aren't compatible with our modern humanist morality. So either you truly believe, in wich case, you believe some truly disturbing things, or you interpret the bible just like all religious ppl do and just take the things wich you feel are appropriate.Wich is it?

If I thought that you were actually interested in understanding it, I'd try. You might want to Google Christianity and Jewish law. You might learn something. It's not my job to educate you. Especially if you're not interested.

no education or the goy

Christians like to think that Christianity is just another form of Judaism. This is incorrect.

The first thing you have to understand is that to Judaism, Jesus is a foreign god.

Yes, it is true, as a few people have written to me, that Christians themselves assert that they worship the same G-d we do. This is really misdirection, even when it is unintentional. Judaism has strict Laws and Guidelines to define these things, and Christian beliefs in Jesus contravene those Laws and Guidelines.

Is Christianity a form of Judaism?

Well, the Jews DID reject their Messiah. Just saying. And what about Messianic Jews?

 

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Nope. I simply know when it's pointless to argue with someone. Believe whatever you like. I really don't care.

Ah the I don't care. It's pointless anyway argument. Heard it before. If you're on a forum like this especially if you put out OP's like you do ,it sounds a bit hollow, but ok.

I speak the truth. Nothing I say will convince some people, no matter what evidence is provided. So it's pointless to continue. It's easy to spot people like this. They are not interested in honest debate. They only care about winning an argument. So I ignore them.

Well if you would actually would provide some evidence. As it is now, the only thing I got from you is I believe the bible litteraly. I showed you some actual bible quotes wich aren't compatible with our modern humanist morality. So either you truly believe, in wich case, you believe some truly disturbing things, or you interpret the bible just like all religious ppl do and just take the things wich you feel are appropriate.Wich is it?

If I thought that you were actually interested in understanding it, I'd try. You might want to Google Christianity and Jewish law. You might learn something. It's not my job to educate you. Especially if you're not interested.

now education for the goy

Christians like to think that Christianity is just another form of Judaism. This is incorrect.

The first thing you have to understand is that to Judaism, Jesus is a foreign god.

Yes, it is true, as a few people have written to me, that Christians themselves assert that they worship the same G-d we do. This is really misdirection, even when it is unintentional. Judaism has strict Laws and Guidelines to define these things, and Christian beliefs in Jesus contravene those Laws and Guidelines.

Is Christianity a form of Judaism?

judaism did not exist until the romans conquered the jews, and out of that came these two religions, each attempting to lay claim to something more ancient and therefore more authoritative than the other. but if you understand time for what it is, like dimensions, and not some flat-earth line, you might gain some insights from genesis 5:19-24.