Atheism: The fool's philosophy

[Compost]

Many atheists do seem to be fighting to keep the door closed in God's face. Let us pray for them, that they open the door and let God in.

Did you just read that from a Hallmark card?

Aw. You think you are so clever. How empty you sound. I'm praying for you too.

 

[Compost]

Many atheists do seem to be fighting to keep the door closed in God's face. Let us pray for them, that they open the door and let God in.

Many theists seem to think they know what it is to be free from faith, when in fact they succeed in only exhibiting their ignorance, stupidity, and arrogance.

If you wish to call the sincere hope that atheists find God, ignorance, stupidity, and arrogance, you are as free to do so as I am to pray for you.

 

[Carla_Danger]

Many atheists do seem to be fighting to keep the door closed in God's face. Let us pray for them, that they open the door and let God in.

Did you just read that from a Hallmark card?

Aw. You think you are so clever. How empty you sound. I'm praying for you too.

Don't hurt yourself.

 

[Syriusly]

Why do many atheists and skeptics fight so hard to deny God if they don't believe He exists?.

I don't believe in your fairy tales, Thor, leprechauns or unicorns.

I view my non-belief in the same way I view my non-collecting of stamps- I just don't.

Why does it bother you so very much that I don't believe in your fairy tales?

 

[Lutroo]

Why do many atheists and skeptics fight so hard to deny God if they don't believe He exists?.

I don't believe in your fairy tales, Thor, leprechauns or unicorns.

I view my non-belief in the same way I view my non-collecting of stamps- I just don't.

Why does it bother you so very much that I don't believe in your fairy tales?

I didn't say that it bothered me. Did I?

 

[sealybobo]

Why do many atheists and skeptics fight so hard to deny God if they don't believe He exists?

Christian author Ray Comfort (pictured below) may have a point when he says atheists know there is a God.

In his book You Can Lead an Atheist to Evidence but You Can't Make Him Think (WND Books, 2009), Comfort said, “We don't have to prove that God exists to the professing atheist. This is because he intuitively knows that He exists. Every person has a God-given conscience. The Bible tells us that this is the 'work of the law written on their hearts'.”

Just as every sane human knows it's wrong to lie, steal, kill, and commit adultery, Comfort says, they also know that God should be first in their life.

Comfort's reasoning is this: People don't fight against something that doesn't exist, or something they don't believe exists.

That's why you don't see groups rising up to fight against the tooth fairy. You don't see professors in universities ridiculing the existence of Santa Claus. You don't see organizations mobilizing troops to denounce werewolves, bunyips, or leprechauns.

Above: Atheist bus campaign creator Ariane Sherine with atheist Richard Dawkins.

What's different with atheists?
So what's different in the atheist's brain? If God doesn't exist, why do atheists such as Richard Dawkins care so passionately that some people believe in Him? Why do they bother writing books against the existence of God? Or waste time preparing videos for YouTube that ridicule God? Or fund ads on the side of London buses?

In fact, why do atheists bother acknowledging that people believe in God at all? People believe all sorts of ridiculous things that atheists don't care about, so why does it matter to them if one of those things is God?

Interestingly, the Bible gives some answers to this.

Psalm 14:1 says, “The fool has said in his heart, There is no God.” Atheists may be brilliant scholars or academics. They may be wonderful inventors, surgeons, or scientists. But if they say there is no God they are declaring themselves fools in spiritual matters. This is why atheism is sometimes called the fool's philosophy.

The Apostle Paul pointed out in Romans 2:15 that God has written intuitive knowledge of His law in our human conscience. In a wonderful passage in Romans 1:20 he says, “For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse.”

There is abundant evidence of God's handiwork written on our conscience and in nature all around us, and there is no excuse for not recognizing God's work in this.

Justifying our actions
So, what is at the core of the atheist's concern?

As sinful humans, we have an amazing tendency to try to justify our actions. This is something that sets us apart from the rest of the animal kingdom. We do something stupid and try to invent plausible reasons why we did it. Sometimes this is to fool others; sometimes it is to convince ourselves that we are not as stupid as our actions indicate.

Sometimes people who have taken a strong point of view on something wrong think it is their duty to get others on side, because there is safety in numbers. This is how cults form, and how dictators get away with murder.

If atheists know in their hearts that there really is a God, but they don't want to be accountable to God for their actions, then it starts to make sense why they try so hard to convince others that God doesn't exist.

This also explains why no-one bothers speaking out against belief in mermaids, pixies, and werewolves. People do not have the truth of these mythical creatures written in their hearts or on their conscience. Nor does nature declare anything about the majesty and power of leprechauns or hobgoblins.

So atheists must know intuitively that God exists. They just want to convince themselves and others that He doesn't exist because if He does it means they have made the worst decision of their lives to reject Him. And that has eternal consequences that are too horrible for them to contemplate.

God wants us to come to Him. He offers salvation to all, and has given two magnificent evidences of Himself. One is the overwhelming evidence of His physical creation all around us, and the other is the imprint of His existence in our conscience.

There should be no atheists. The fact that there are shows human rebellion and arrogance — not an intellectual discovery.

Ya lost me as soon as you said the bible says.. I think it's funny he/you don't believe we really don't believe. You can't imagine you are as full of crap as you are. I think you are boss born again

 

[sealybobo]

Why do many atheists and skeptics fight so hard to deny God if they don't believe He exists?.

I don't believe in your fairy tales, Thor, leprechauns or unicorns.

I view my non-belief in the same way I view my non-collecting of stamps- I just don't.

Why does it bother you so very much that I don't believe in your fairy tales?

I didn't say that it bothered me. Did I?

You seem to have a hard on with atheists. Are you a doubting Thomas? Trying to convince us or yourself?

I really don't believe. If there is a creator it's not the God you invented 2000 years ago. Calling bullshit and your anti science gives you zero credibility

 

[Mudda]

Atheists are just as deluded as theists, as there's no proof either way for or against the existence of a god.

 

[forkup]

Atheists are just as deluded as theists, as there's no proof either way for or against the existence of a god.

Nope you can't disprove the existence of God. You can however deem it unlikely. In the case of the God as portrayed in the organised religions the chances in my opinion are so small as to constitute nill. It just offers so many specific on this supposed supreme being in terms of morals and actions it becomes impossible. The more religious ppl claim. God did this, God wants that, God said that. It becomes more and more impossible.

 

[Mudda]

Atheists are just as deluded as theists, as there's no proof either way for or against the existence of a god.

Nope you can't disprove the existence of God. You can however deem it unlikely. In the case of the God as portrayed in the organised religions the chances in my opinion are so small as to constitute nill. It just offers so many specific on this supposed supreme being in terms of morals and actions it becomes impossible. The more religious ppl claim. God did this, God wants that, God said that. It becomes more and more impossible.

"you can't disprove the existence of God". God has never been proven to exist, nor has it been disproven to exist.

 

[Syriusly]

Atheists are just as deluded as theists, as there's no proof either way for or against the existence of a god.

I don't need proof to not be doing something.

I don't collect stamps- not because I need proof about stamp collecting but because I do not collect stamps.

Likewise- I do not believe in fairy tales.

Simple as that.

 

[Syriusly]

Why do many atheists and skeptics fight so hard to deny God if they don't believe He exists?.

I don't believe in your fairy tales, Thor, leprechauns or unicorns.

I view my non-belief in the same way I view my non-collecting of stamps- I just don't.

Why does it bother you so very much that I don't believe in your fairy tales?

I didn't say that it bothered me. Did I?

You were the one who started your whine fest against Atheists- clearly it does bother you.

 

[Lutroo]

Why do many atheists and skeptics fight so hard to deny God if they don't believe He exists?.

I don't believe in your fairy tales, Thor, leprechauns or unicorns.

I view my non-belief in the same way I view my non-collecting of stamps- I just don't.

Why does it bother you so very much that I don't believe in your fairy tales?

I didn't say that it bothered me. Did I?

You were the one who started your whine fest against Atheists- clearly it does bother you.

It doesn't bother me. Why should it? If someone wants to reject God, they will suffer the consequences. What does bother me is that these same atheists are attacking Christianity. They are murdering Christians. That bothers me. If atheists were content to allow others to believe what they want, it wouldn't bother me in the least what they believe.

 

[Mudda]

Atheists are just as deluded as theists, as there's no proof either way for or against the existence of a god.

I don't need proof to not be doing something.

I don't collect stamps- not because I need proof about stamp collecting but because I do not collect stamps.

Likewise- I do not believe in fairy tales.

Simple as that.

But you have zero proof that a god can't exist.

 

[Syriusly]

Atheists are just as deluded as theists, as there's no proof either way for or against the existence of a god.

I don't need proof to not be doing something.

I don't collect stamps- not because I need proof about stamp collecting but because I do not collect stamps.

Likewise- I do not believe in fairy tales.

Simple as that.

But you have zero proof that a god can't exist.

I don't care- whether it is possible that a god can exist is immaterial to me. Any more than I care whether you collect stamps or not.

Like I said- just don't believe in fairy tales like leprechauns and unicorns or any gods

 

[IsaacNewton]

Atheists are just as deluded as theists, as there's no proof either way for or against the existence of a god.

Ad absurdum.

You could easily say "atheists are as deluded as people that believe in The Spaghetti Monster as there is no proof either way". Or Zeus, Thor, the god of the corn, the volcano god, or any of the other 40,000 'gods' humans have or do believe in.

"Elephants may have flown in the past, you can't say for sure as you weren't there". Yes I think it's safe to say, for sure. Even though no one has observed every single elephant that ever existed. Inferred knowledge based on a mountain of observed fact can in fact reduce doubt to .0000000000001 % (or pick a number). Close enough. We haven't seen quarks, or atoms for that matter. A mountain of evidence has reduced the doubt to almost no relevance.

Alot of the knowledge we have about extinct species is from the burrows they made, or footprints, or scat. Indirect observance. Intellectually you can hold that 'we don't know 100% for sure, which is what an agnostic says, which I am'. But even then it is an intellectual exercise. There are many things we know even though we have no direct evidence. Blood spatter patterns at a crime scene can tell in detail what happened, rather than having to see the crime take place. Put that together with all the other evidence and you do know what happened without having been there.

 

[Syriusly]

Why do many atheists and skeptics fight so hard to deny God if they don't believe He exists?.

I don't believe in your fairy tales, Thor, leprechauns or unicorns.

I view my non-belief in the same way I view my non-collecting of stamps- I just don't.

Why does it bother you so very much that I don't believe in your fairy tales?

I didn't say that it bothered me. Did I?

You were the one who started your whine fest against Atheists- clearly it does bother you.

It doesn't bother me. Why should it? If someone wants to reject God, they will suffer the consequences. What does bother me is that these same atheists are attacking Christianity. They are murdering Christians. That bothers me. If atheists were content to allow others to believe what they want, it wouldn't bother me in the least what they believe.

Which 'same atheists' are attacking Christianity? Specifically?

Have you noticed me killing any Christians? Because I don't recall killing any.

Christians are too busy murdering other Christians to get around focusing on atheists- harder to murder us since we typically don't go around broadcasting our belief in fairy tales like Christians do.

 

[Syriusly]

Why do many atheists and skeptics fight so hard to deny God if they don't believe He exists?.

I don't believe in your fairy tales, Thor, leprechauns or unicorns.

I view my non-belief in the same way I view my non-collecting of stamps- I just don't.

Why does it bother you so very much that I don't believe in your fairy tales?

I didn't say that it bothered me. Did I?

You were the one who started your whine fest against Atheists- clearly it does bother you.

It doesn't bother me. Why should it?.

Yet here you are- starting a whole thread that is nothing more than a whine fest about how much it bothers you that I am an atheist.

 

[Tuatara]

Atheists are just as deluded as theists, as there's no proof either way for or against the existence of a god.

I don't need proof to not be doing something.

I don't collect stamps- not because I need proof about stamp collecting but because I do not collect stamps.

Likewise- I do not believe in fairy tales.

Simple as that.

But you have zero proof that a god can't exist.

And you have zero proof that all the gods ever described in history have never existed. The same can be said about leprechauns, unicorns and fairies.

 

[Tuatara]

Why do many atheists and skeptics fight so hard to deny God if they don't believe He exists?.

I don't believe in your fairy tales, Thor, leprechauns or unicorns.

I view my non-belief in the same way I view my non-collecting of stamps- I just don't.

Why does it bother you so very much that I don't believe in your fairy tales?

I didn't say that it bothered me. Did I?

You were the one who started your whine fest against Atheists- clearly it does bother you.

It doesn't bother me. Why should it? If someone wants to reject God, they will suffer the consequences.

You reject every other god. What if you worshiped the wrong god? Will you suffer the consequences. As for a god that would chose fear induced tactics to be worshipped, I can safely say that I'm glad I don't believe in such a scornful and spoiled malcontent.

What does bother me is that these same atheists are attacking Christianity.

Said the person who started a thread calling atheists fools.

They are murdering Christians. That bothers me.

A lie.

If atheists were content to allow others to believe what they want, it wouldn't bother me in the least what they believe.

We do. We haven't asked for the destruction of churches or other places of worship.