Atheists don't believe in God or gods but they have no alternative theories that make sense...

[toobfreak]

...as to how the universe came to exist or how humans became aware of our own existence.

And I've tried to get answers from atheists, but none are forthcoming.

They do like to mock those of us who do believe in God or gods, as if somehow mockery can make up for lack of answers.

And I do anticipate that they will simply do that in this thread, mock and ridicule.

They don't know how the universe happened, they just know fer shur that God didn't do it.
They don't know what God is or if he even exists, have never met him either, just can't prove he's not real too, but they just know we don't need him.
Liberal Leftists are such control freaks, they can't stop at running men's lives, it terrifies them that some higher authority might actually have power over them! Worse, then they might have to consider and be ACCOUNTABLE to him!

 

[Slyhunter]

I'm Agnostic. There might be a God, I don't know. I do know religion is man made. Not going to believe in Jesus because a book told me to. Microwaves are magical. They just work. There are a lot of things I don't know. But I don't have to know everything. I tried to know everything. Wasn't worth the bother.

You have no proof that God exists. Who knows it could be a Pantheon. The Universe is huge and those that think they know all the answers, don't.

 

[Slyhunter]

One theory is there is only one single consciousness in existence. We are simply tiny portions of that consciousness. When you concentrate on a movie the rest of the world ceases to exist for you. During the commercial you pull your attention back. I am simply the focus of my limited attention.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Zero net energy does not mean there is "nothing."

Yes, I believe I've said that four times now. I have also said "nothing" is a made-up concept.

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

...as to how the universe came to exist or how humans became aware of our own existence.

And I've tried to get answers from atheists, but none are forthcoming.

They do like to mock those of us who do believe in God or gods, as if somehow mockery can make up for lack of answers.

And I do anticipate that they will simply do that in this thread, mock and ridicule.

They don't know how the universe happened, they just know fer shur that God didn't do it.
They don't know what God is or if he even exists, have never met him either, just can't prove he's not real too, but they just know we don't need him.
Liberal Leftists are such control freaks, they can't stop at running men's lives, it terrifies them that some higher authority might actually have power over them! Worse, then they might have to consider and be ACCOUNTABLE to him!

And you people are terrified of the possibility that a higher power does not exist and that you are responsible for your own lives and actions as an individual and that you are ACCOUNTABLE as an individual- that morality comes from within. You sell the human species short by insisting that all that is good about us comes from a higher power-that we have no free will or innate moral compass. And you do that while pretending that all that is wrong with us- and much is wrong - comes from where? The Devil. ? No! The human being embodies both good and bad aspects . Start taking personal responsibility for it.

And you people should not presume to know what leftist believe. I happen to be an Agnostic who accepts the possibility of God but who sees no proof of her existence. Therefore, I chose to live by what I do know... the observable and verifiable reality.

 

[ding]

Wrong, as long as negative energy is also created.

Energy cannot be created, whether positive or negative.

There’s No Such Thing as Nothing, According to Quantum Physics

Do you think he confused this for a universe filled with energy and matter?

Or is that just you?

I think he used "nothing" for shock effect only as the very quantum physics he says his speculation is based on says there is no such thing as nothing.
Obviously he confused you!

No, he confused you.

 

[edthecynic]

Zero net energy does not mean there is "nothing."

Yes, I believe I've said that four times now. I have also said "nothing" is a made-up concept.

You also said energy was created, it isn't.

 

[edthecynic]

Energy cannot be created, whether positive or negative.

There’s No Such Thing as Nothing, According to Quantum Physics

Do you think he confused this for a universe filled with energy and matter?

Or is that just you?

I think he used "nothing" for shock effect only as the very quantum physics he says his speculation is based on says there is no such thing as nothing.
Obviously he confused you!

No, he confused you.

You are too confused to know who confused who!

 

[ding]

There’s No Such Thing as Nothing, According to Quantum Physics

Do you think he confused this for a universe filled with energy and matter?

Or is that just you?

I think he used "nothing" for shock effect only as the very quantum physics he says his speculation is based on says there is no such thing as nothing.
Obviously he confused you!

No, he confused you.

You are too confused to know who confused who!

 

[Karl Rand]

 

[toobfreak]

And you people are terrified of the possibility that a higher power does not exist and that you are responsible for your own lives.

Guess what, Moron? Having a creator and God doesn't absolve you of responsibility, it INCREASES it! If you ever actually READ the Bible or any other religious doctrine, jackass, you'd know that they all place responsibility for your lives and actions squarely in the hands of the individual. "God" doesn't "run" your life, he is who sets the standards of behavior and morality which you must live up to and answer for. But the responsibility is YOURS. If you didn't have your head so far up your puckered ass, you'd understand that one of the reasons why autocratic atheistic states always fight to destroy churches and religion in their societies was because by denying God, it frees them to do as they please as the highest authority over people and to force their people to worship and be led by THEM over anything else. If there is anywhere a person has the LEAST personal responsibility, it is in the exact kind of socialistic, godless, state-controlled world you live for.

 

[Slyhunter]

And you people are terrified of the possibility that a higher power does not exist and that you are responsible for your own lives.

Guess what, Moron? Having a creator and God doesn't absolve you of responsibility, it INCREASES it! If you ever actually READ the Bible or any other religious doctrine, jackass, you'd know that they all place responsibility for your lives and actions squarely in the hands of the individual. "God" doesn't "run" your life, he is who sets the standards of behavior and morality which you must live up to and answer for. But the responsibility is YOURS. If you didn't have your head so far up your puckered ass, you'd understand that one of the reasons why autocratic atheistic states always fight to destroy churches and religion in their societies was because by denying God, it frees them to do as they please as the highest authority over people and to force their people to worship and be led by THEM over anything else. If there is anywhere a person has the LEAST personal responsibility, it is in the exact kind of socialistic, godless, state-controlled world you live for.

You argue for God yet waste time calling your opponent names like Moron and Jackass. Not very Godly of you. Walk the walk.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

You also said energy was created, it isn't.

That depends on the frame of the observer. To us, iniour universe, energy would seem to be created, as well as negative energy. To an outside observer, the net amount of energy would appear not to change.

 

[toobfreak]

And you people are terrified of the possibility that a higher power does not exist and that you are responsible for your own lives.

Guess what, Moron? Having a creator and God doesn't absolve you of responsibility, it INCREASES it! If you ever actually READ the Bible or any other religious doctrine, jackass, you'd know that they all place responsibility for your lives and actions squarely in the hands of the individual. "God" doesn't "run" your life, he is who sets the standards of behavior and morality which you must live up to and answer for. But the responsibility is YOURS. If you didn't have your head so far up your puckered ass, you'd understand that one of the reasons why autocratic atheistic states always fight to destroy churches and religion in their societies was because by denying God, it frees them to do as they please as the highest authority over people and to force their people to worship and be led by THEM over anything else. If there is anywhere a person has the LEAST personal responsibility, it is in the exact kind of socialistic, godless, state-controlled world you live for.

You argue for God yet waste time calling your opponent names like Moron and Jackass. Not very Godly of you. Walk the walk.

Guess what, Sly? I'm not God. Not even pretending to be God. In a forum of unprecedented rudeness and insults where good behavior is almost unknown and seldom rewarded, why should I be "Godly" with someone with a long history of rudeness and insults to me? Especially making so misinformed a rebuttal. The one certainly I've learned posting here is that you can treat people nice and fair and be rational till the cows come home and it still doesn't affect their attitude and opinions, much less their desire to not post on threads they know nothing about.

 

[edthecynic]

To us, in our universe, energy would seem to be created, as well as negative energy. To an outside observer, the net amount of energy would appear not to change.

No it wouldn't to either observer.

 

[edthecynic]

In a forum of unprecedented rudeness and insults where good behavior is almost unknown and seldom rewarded, why should I be "Godly" with someone with a long history of rudeness and insults to me?

So much for turn the other cheek.

To the wicked, everything serves as pretext.

Voltaire

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

No it wouldn't to either observer.

Wrong. It would appear to us that both energy and negative energy were created, with no net energy change.

Dude, you really should not comment again until you read a cosmology article written after 1995 or so.

 

[Slyhunter]

And you people are terrified of the possibility that a higher power does not exist and that you are responsible for your own lives.

Guess what, Moron? Having a creator and God doesn't absolve you of responsibility, it INCREASES it! If you ever actually READ the Bible or any other religious doctrine, jackass, you'd know that they all place responsibility for your lives and actions squarely in the hands of the individual. "God" doesn't "run" your life, he is who sets the standards of behavior and morality which you must live up to and answer for. But the responsibility is YOURS. If you didn't have your head so far up your puckered ass, you'd understand that one of the reasons why autocratic atheistic states always fight to destroy churches and religion in their societies was because by denying God, it frees them to do as they please as the highest authority over people and to force their people to worship and be led by THEM over anything else. If there is anywhere a person has the LEAST personal responsibility, it is in the exact kind of socialistic, godless, state-controlled world you live for.

You argue for God yet waste time calling your opponent names like Moron and Jackass. Not very Godly of you. Walk the walk.

Guess what, Sly? I'm not God. Not even pretending to be God. In a forum of unprecedented rudeness and insults where good behavior is almost unknown and seldom rewarded, why should I be "Godly" with someone with a long history of rudeness and insults to me? Especially making so misinformed a rebuttal. The one certainly I've learned posting here is that you can treat people nice and fair and be rational till the cows come home and it still doesn't affect their attitude and opinions, much less their desire to not post on threads they know nothing about.

I was misinformed, was taught that all Christians were supposed to be godly at all times with others. I'm not a christian. Even here, I don't waste time with pointless insults muddying up the message regardless what others do. I slip now and then but normally I stick to the topic at hand. You can't win an argument by resorting to name calling.

 

[toobfreak]

And you people are terrified of the possibility that a higher power does not exist and that you are responsible for your own lives.

Guess what, Moron? Having a creator and God doesn't absolve you of responsibility, it INCREASES it! If you ever actually READ the Bible or any other religious doctrine, jackass, you'd know that they all place responsibility for your lives and actions squarely in the hands of the individual. "God" doesn't "run" your life, he is who sets the standards of behavior and morality which you must live up to and answer for. But the responsibility is YOURS. If you didn't have your head so far up your puckered ass, you'd understand that one of the reasons why autocratic atheistic states always fight to destroy churches and religion in their societies was because by denying God, it frees them to do as they please as the highest authority over people and to force their people to worship and be led by THEM over anything else. If there is anywhere a person has the LEAST personal responsibility, it is in the exact kind of socialistic, godless, state-controlled world you live for.

You argue for God yet waste time calling your opponent names like Moron and Jackass. Not very Godly of you. Walk the walk.

Guess what, Sly? I'm not God. Not even pretending to be God. In a forum of unprecedented rudeness and insults where good behavior is almost unknown and seldom rewarded, why should I be "Godly" with someone with a long history of rudeness and insults to me? Especially making so misinformed a rebuttal. The one certainly I've learned posting here is that you can treat people nice and fair and be rational till the cows come home and it still doesn't affect their attitude and opinions, much less their desire to not post on threads they know nothing about.

I was misinformed, was taught that all Christians were supposed to be godly at all times with others. I'm not a christian. Even here, I don't waste time with pointless insults muddying up the message regardless what others do. I slip now and then but normally I stick to the topic at hand. You can't win an argument by resorting to name calling.

Where did I ever say I was a Christian? And who cares what you do? I don't. Quit trying to change the subject to about me and other spurious minutiae and try to stick to the topic.

 

[edthecynic]

No it wouldn't to either observer.

Wrong. It would appear to us that both energy and negative energy were created, with no net energy change.

Dude, you really should not comment again until you read a cosmology article written after 1995 or so.

Neither positive nor negative energy can be created.
If energy and negative energy were actually created, as you falsely claim, then there would be a net energy change even if equal amounts of each were created keeping them in BALANCE! Instead of energy consider weights on a balance scale. If you add equal amounts of weight to both sides of the scale, the scale remains in BALANCE but the total weight balanced INCREASED.
Do you finally see how STUPID your argument is?