Bakers fined for not working homosexual "wedding" continue fighting for their freedoms

[Auld Phart]

For crying out loud!

Stop whining and bake the fucking cake

So, stop in here,

and ask them to make a cake celebrating Hitlers birthday

 

[TheOldSchool]

"So the court must determine: Has Oregon, for example, compelled Catholics to sculpt totems for Wiccan rituals? Feminists to photograph fraternity initiations? Pro-life filmmakers to video abortions?" the brief asks. "It has not, and that ends the case."

THAT is spot on.

Lol no that was actually the dumbest part of the article. And to think it was a professional saying all that goofy nonsense. Smh.

Oh please let us hear your BRILLIANT take on this....we know facts hurt stupid people so of course you are whining about it you simply don't comprehend it.

Read the verdict. Have someone read it to you if you have trouble. That's my take on it.

 

[TheOldSchool]

For crying out loud!

Stop whining and bake the fucking cake

So, stop in here,

and ask them to make a cake celebrating Hitlers birthday

They could refuse that. It's a very different request than the one in this case. You people are horribly uninformed.

 

[Auld Phart]

For crying out loud!

Stop whining and bake the fucking cake

So, stop in here,

and ask them to make a cake celebrating Hitlers birthday

They could refuse that. It's a very different request than the one in this case. You people are horribly uninformed.

Is it?

You don't think the Christian couple find the gay wedding as distasteful as the other bakery finds Hitler?

 

[Uncensored2008]

They broke the law and engaged in discriminatory behavior. Render unto Caesar. However, I still maintain that the best way to deal with these issues is to fully allow people to discriminate against gay couples being married, with the only stipulation being large and conspicuous notices all over your storefronts and websites.

They broke the law?

Congress shall make no law

They broke a law that is prohibited by the Constitution?

respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;

It's that second part that throws you.

 

[TheOldSchool]

For crying out loud!

Stop whining and bake the fucking cake

So, stop in here,

and ask them to make a cake celebrating Hitlers birthday

They could refuse that. It's a very different request than the one in this case. You people are horribly uninformed.

Is it?

You don't think the Christian couple find the gay wedding as distasteful as the other bakery finds Hitler?

You can refuse to put language on a cake. That's protected by the first amendment. But you can't refuse to sell them your product just because you hate folks like them.

 

[Uncensored2008]

For crying out loud!

Stop whining and bake the fucking cake

So, stop in here,

and ask them to make a cake celebrating Hitlers birthday

They could refuse that. It's a very different request than the one in this case. You people are horribly uninformed.

Does it hurt to be that stupid?

 

[SwimExpert]

They broke the law?

Congress shall make no law

They broke a law that is prohibited by the Constitution?

respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;

It's that second part that throws you.

First of all, it wasn't Congress it was the state of Oregon who made the law. Second, the law isn't about religion, it's about discrimination. Your argument is no more valid than someone trying to use religious human sacrifice as a defense for murder.

 

[Auld Phart]

For crying out loud!

Stop whining and bake the fucking cake

So, stop in here,

and ask them to make a cake celebrating Hitlers birthday

They could refuse that. It's a very different request than the one in this case. You people are horribly uninformed.

Is it?

You don't think the Christian couple find the gay wedding as distasteful as the other bakery finds Hitler?

You can refuse to put language on a cake. That's protected by the first amendment. But you can't refuse to sell them your product just because you hate folks like them.

You can refuse to put language on a cake.

By law, they would have to put a picture of Hitler on the cake if it was requested, but not his name?

 

[Uncensored2008]

You can refuse to put language on a cake. That's protected by the first amendment. But you can't refuse to sell them your product just because you hate folks like them.

So the Lesbian couple was just buying a generic cake off the shelf, and not ordering a custom one?

Are you sure you're not lying?

 

[TheOldSchool]

For crying out loud!

Stop whining and bake the fucking cake

So, stop in here,

and ask them to make a cake celebrating Hitlers birthday

They could refuse that. It's a very different request than the one in this case. You people are horribly uninformed.

Is it?

You don't think the Christian couple find the gay wedding as distasteful as the other bakery finds Hitler?

You can refuse to put language on a cake. That's protected by the first amendment. But you can't refuse to sell them your product just because you hate folks like them.

You can refuse to put language on a cake.

By law, they would have to put a picture of Hitler on the cake if it was requested, but not his name?

They would not have to put either.

 

[martybegan]

For crying out loud!

Stop whining and bake the fucking cake

For crying out loud, stop whining and pay the fucking tithe!

They were already blackmailed for the money....just because you lose a battle doesn't mean you give up trying to win the war.

They have an uphill battle to be sure.

 

[martybegan]

They broke the law and engaged in discriminatory behavior. Render unto Caesar. However, I still maintain that the best way to deal with these issues is to fully allow people to discriminate against gay couples being married, with the only stipulation being large and conspicuous notices all over your storefronts and websites.

Render unto Caesar is fine when it came to things everyone can agree on, like not murdering people (one end of the spectrum) or picking up your dog's shit when it craps on the sidewalk (the other end of the spectrum).

It's when government decides to get into figuring out who's butt hurt is more equal than the other butt hurt that it becomes an issue.

PA laws were designed to fight systemic economic discrimination, not hurt feelings.

 

[martybegan]

They broke the law and engaged in discriminatory behavior. Render unto Caesar. However, I still maintain that the best way to deal with these issues is to fully allow people to discriminate against gay couples being married, with the only stipulation being large and conspicuous notices all over your storefronts and websites.

They broke the law?

Congress shall make no law

They broke a law that is prohibited by the Constitution?

respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;

It's that second part that throws you.

Government does have the right to intervene, but only in cases where there is actual harm, and only using the least restrictive method of removing that harm.

Hurt feelings are not harm. and fining a business over $100k over a single non-baked cake is not the least restrictive method.

 

[Uncensored2008]

First of all, it wasn't Congress it was the state of Oregon who made the law. Second, the law isn't about religion, it's about discrimination. Your argument is no more valid than someone trying to use religious human sacrifice as a defense for murder.

You need to take a 3rd grade civics class. The 14th amendment extends prohibitions of infringing civil rights to state governments.

The state of Oregon openly and expressly violated the 1st amendment by passing a law that directly abridges the right to follow religion,

James Madison, an old dead white guy who is hated by our Progressive rulers wrote this of the amendment that was shit on by Oregon and the court;

{The civil rights of none shall be abridged on account of religious belief or worship, nor shall any national religion be established, nor shall the full and equal rights of conscience be in any manner, or on any pretext, infringed. The people shall not be deprived or abridged of their right to speak, to write, or to publish their sentiments; and the freedom of the press, as one of the great bulwarks of liberty, shall be inviolable. The people shall not be restrained from peaceably assembling and consulting for their common good; nor from applying to the Legislature by petitions, or remonstrances, for redress of their grievances}

Perhaps you can better understand what the concept of religious freedom means, with his sage words?

 

[Uncensored2008]

You can refuse to put language on a cake. That's protected by the first amendment. But you can't refuse to sell them your product just because you hate folks like them.

You of course are ignorantly talking out your ass, in your zeal to trash the 1st amendment.

 

[SwimExpert]

The state of Oregon openly and expressly violated the 1st amendment by passing a law that directly abridges the right to follow religion,

So murder is acceptable if I have a religious belief in human sacrifice?

 

[SwimExpert]

Render unto Caesar is fine when it came to things everyone can agree on

If everyone had been agreeing, Jesus would have not had any need to teach such a lesson.

 

[Uncensored2008]

The state of Oregon openly and expressly violated the 1st amendment by passing a law that directly abridges the right to follow religion,

So murder is acceptable if I have a religious belief in human sacrifice?

I assume that is the best you can do?

 

[rightwinger]

For crying out loud!

Stop whining and bake the fucking cake

For crying out loud, stop whining and pay the fucking tithe!

They were already blackmailed for the money....just because you lose a battle doesn't mean you give up trying to win the war.

They broke the law and were held accountable