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So do the rules and laws pertaining to US Treasury notes. Again, don't use them if you are a thug or a terrorist with the belief that you will be able to access that system while you are doing those acts that are forbidden by LAW.the constitution doesn’t apply to just citizens. It applies to everyone here
The Russian Oligarch's who are having their assets seized are not "here".the constitution doesn’t apply to just citizens. It applies to everyone here
agreed, amd before the US Govt can convict you of violating the law you get due processSo do the rules and laws pertaining to US Treasury notes. Again, don't use them if you are a thug or a terrorist with the belief that you will be able to access that system while you are doing those acts that are forbidden by LAW.
there property is, and thus subject to due process before it can be takenThe Russian Oligarch's who are having their assets seized are not "here".
Under federal law your money can be "arrested" even if you aren't convicted of any crime.agreed, amd before the US Govt can convict you of violating the law you get due process
i am not sure why you are so opposed to due process
I'm good with it too. These thugs that believe that they can do their acts openly or covertly without immediate consequences for their actions need to be taken to task and stripped bare.Right now we're seizing their assets, I'm good with that.
Under federal law it can be seized without any due process.there property is, and thus subject to due process before it can be taken
seized yes, and then there is a forfeiture hearing…ue due processUnder federal law your money can be "arrested" even if you aren't convicted of any crime.
seized yes, but before it becomes property of the govt there is a hearingUnder federal law it can be seized without any due process.
The burden of proof is on the person who's assets are seized to show they were not gained through criminal activity.seized yes, but before it becomes property of the govt there is a hearing
No one stated that there would not be due process.seized yes, and then there is a forfeiture hearing…ue due process
ok, so why are you arguing with me and suggesting it’s not needed? all i said is so long as there is due process i’m all for thisNo one stated that there would not be due process.
that’s incorrect. The burden is o the govt to make that showing.The burden of proof is on the person who's assets are seized to show they were not gained through criminal activity.
There is no real "due process".
Not in the case of these seizures, it's really screwed up for citizens when it happens.that’s incorrect. The burden is o the govt to make that showing.
leb.fbi.gov
www.justice.gov
your article talks about how a warrant is required through a seizure.Not in the case of these seizures, it's really screwed up for citizens when it happens.
Asset Seizure and Forfeiture: A Basic Guide | FBI: Law Enforcement Bulletin
This article provides a basic understanding of asset seizure and forfeiture, including investigative techniques and best practices for law enforcement.
About the Asset Forfeiture Program (AFP)
It can be virtually impossible to recover your money and property under these types of seizures.
Cash seizures are done every day on highways all across the US.your article talks about how a warrant is required through a seizure.
Cash seizures are done every day on highways all across the US.
This is but one of thousands of such stops every year.
He wasn't arrested or cited for anything, they just seized his cash with no warrant like they do thousands of times every year during traffic stops.yeah and they can seize property as evidence or when they arrest someone. That’s called due process.
A forfeiture, where the property can actually change ownership the given to ukraine is not the same as merely seizing the property to be used as evidence.
but due process is required in both
It isn't seized for evidence in these cases, there's no arrest, no charge, no probable cause or even reasonable suspicion of the individuals committing a crime.yeah and they can seize property as evidence or when they arrest someone. That’s called due process.
A forfeiture, where the property can actually change ownership the given to ukraine is not the same as merely seizing the property to be used as evidence.
but due process is required in both
