bernie sanders, dem socialist, uses Capatalism as a justification for being a millionaire

[dblack]

And our political process is a dysfunctional mess. As long as we're capable of electing cretins, I don't want to hand government more power over society.

We would certainly have to tackle corruption at the same time. Scandinavia seems to have done that already.

Yeah. We'd want to deal with that before we give government total power over society, dontcha think?

Well ASAP would be good. They already have plenty of power over society.

Indeed. But we seem hell bent on handing them more. I can't really understand liberals who freak out about how bad Trump is (and I agree), but then turn around and want to put government in charge of anything and everything - health care, for example. Why do they want Trump in charge of their health care?

Its mostly cause what we have now is so expensive.

But do you trust Trump to solve that problem for you? Again, I don't get it.

 

[Brain357]

We would certainly have to tackle corruption at the same time. Scandinavia seems to have done that already.

Yeah. We'd want to deal with that before we give government total power over society, dontcha think?

Well ASAP would be good. They already have plenty of power over society.

Indeed. But we seem hell bent on handing them more. I can't really understand liberals who freak out about how bad Trump is (and I agree), but then turn around and want to put government in charge of anything and everything - health care, for example. Why do they want Trump in charge of their health care?

Its mostly cause what we have now is so expensive.

But do you trust Trump to solve that problem for you? Again, I don't get it.

Oh he says he’s got the answer. Lots of desperation.

 

[dblack]

Yeah. We'd want to deal with that before we give government total power over society, dontcha think?

Well ASAP would be good. They already have plenty of power over society.

Indeed. But we seem hell bent on handing them more. I can't really understand liberals who freak out about how bad Trump is (and I agree), but then turn around and want to put government in charge of anything and everything - health care, for example. Why do they want Trump in charge of their health care?

Its mostly cause what we have now is so expensive.

But do you trust Trump to solve that problem for you? Again, I don't get it.

Oh he says he’s got the answer. Lots of desperation.

Yeah, I get it. People get stupid when they're desperate. But jeez, we have to resist the stupidity, don't you think?

 

[imawhosure]

Capitalism is rigged in favor of the elite, remember?
In 1974 he advicated for a tax rate of 100 percent over 1m dollars. "Nobody should earn over a million dollars" lol yea, until its the bern that does it.
I find that hilarious.

I find you hilarious. 1974.....really?

Explain why his quote is wrong.

"I wrote a best-selling book,” he declared. “If you write a best-selling book, you can be a millionaire, too.”

Then you can point to where he is hypocritical in his use of that money.

A million then is around 5 today. Rhetoric aint much different when put into perspective huh
I just find it hilarious a socialist uses capitalism as justification for being rich. You are a hack so you probably dont see it.
If socialists were republucan, you probably would.

Ok. Did he earn more than 5 million? Does he profit from keeping his workforce poor and on assistance? Does he invest with and profit from bad actors around the world? Does he pay to lobby for policies that benefit himself and the wealthy over the rest of society?


You haven't shown us anything questionable with his earnings.

My point was, for the third fucking time, is a socialist uses capitalism as justification for being rich.
Good fucking gawd man.

He wrote a best selling book, dope. That tends to make one rich.

Now tell us how he's used that money in a way that is hypocritical.

So then, authors are exempt, right?

Wait, wait, isn't that fat guy who made Farenheit something or other a Socialist millionaire too? Directors exempt also? Wait, wait, Beto is a socialist millionaire, too. He inherited his. Is he exempt? Wait, Pelosi is worth MILLIONS and wants SOCIALISM, is she exempt?

Why don't you tell us who is NOT exempt on your side, I am sure it is a much shorter list, lolololol!

 

[TNHarley]

And our political process is a dysfunctional mess. As long as we're capable of electing cretins, I don't want to hand government more power over society.

We would certainly have to tackle corruption at the same time. Scandinavia seems to have done that already.

Yeah. We'd want to deal with that before we give government total power over society, dontcha think?

Well ASAP would be good. They already have plenty of power over society.

Indeed. But we seem hell bent on handing them more. I can't really understand liberals who freak out about how bad Trump is (and I agree), but then turn around and want to put government in charge of anything and everything - health care, for example. Why do they want Trump in charge of their health care?

Its mostly cause what we have now is so expensive.

Expensive because of the govt

 

[Brain357]

You must have a quote from him stating that.

Bernie Sanders tells Chris Hayes what Democratic socialism means to him

I didn't hear anything that sounded bad. He certainly doesn't sound full socialist....

 

[Brain357]

Well ASAP would be good. They already have plenty of power over society.

Indeed. But we seem hell bent on handing them more. I can't really understand liberals who freak out about how bad Trump is (and I agree), but then turn around and want to put government in charge of anything and everything - health care, for example. Why do they want Trump in charge of their health care?

Its mostly cause what we have now is so expensive.

But do you trust Trump to solve that problem for you? Again, I don't get it.

Oh he says he’s got the answer. Lots of desperation.

Yeah, I get it. People get stupid when they're desperate. But jeez, we have to resist the stupidity, don't you think?

But there is no other option being provided and people are going bankrupt from our current system. Meanwhile we have many examples where it seems to work quite well. If we do nothing soon on the rich will have healthcare. And only one other option is being offered.

 

[Brain357]

We would certainly have to tackle corruption at the same time. Scandinavia seems to have done that already.

Yeah. We'd want to deal with that before we give government total power over society, dontcha think?

Well ASAP would be good. They already have plenty of power over society.

Indeed. But we seem hell bent on handing them more. I can't really understand liberals who freak out about how bad Trump is (and I agree), but then turn around and want to put government in charge of anything and everything - health care, for example. Why do they want Trump in charge of their health care?

Its mostly cause what we have now is so expensive.

Expensive because of the govt

It's certainly not only because of government. A lot of people are being made really rich from our healthcare system, and I'm not talking about doctors and nurses.

 

[Ambivalent1]

Yeah. We'd want to deal with that before we give government total power over society, dontcha think?

Well ASAP would be good. They already have plenty of power over society.

Indeed. But we seem hell bent on handing them more. I can't really understand liberals who freak out about how bad Trump is (and I agree), but then turn around and want to put government in charge of anything and everything - health care, for example. Why do they want Trump in charge of their health care?

Its mostly cause what we have now is so expensive.

Expensive because of the govt

It's certainly not only because of government. A lot of people are being made really rich from out healthcare system, and I'm not talking about doctors and nurses.

Think this through....how do you fix it?

 

[Brain357]

Well ASAP would be good. They already have plenty of power over society.

Indeed. But we seem hell bent on handing them more. I can't really understand liberals who freak out about how bad Trump is (and I agree), but then turn around and want to put government in charge of anything and everything - health care, for example. Why do they want Trump in charge of their health care?

Its mostly cause what we have now is so expensive.

Expensive because of the govt

It's certainly not only because of government. A lot of people are being made really rich from out healthcare system, and I'm not talking about doctors and nurses.

Think this through....how do you fix it?

Single payer systems are the only examples I know of that have significantly lower costs.

 

[Ambivalent1]

Indeed. But we seem hell bent on handing them more. I can't really understand liberals who freak out about how bad Trump is (and I agree), but then turn around and want to put government in charge of anything and everything - health care, for example. Why do they want Trump in charge of their health care?

Its mostly cause what we have now is so expensive.

Expensive because of the govt

It's certainly not only because of government. A lot of people are being made really rich from out healthcare system, and I'm not talking about doctors and nurses.

Think this through....how do you fix it?

Single payer systems are the only examples I know of that have significantly lower costs.

How do they do this? I'm not trying to be an ass. Very few people here have thought this through.

 

[Brain357]

Its mostly cause what we have now is so expensive.

Expensive because of the govt

It's certainly not only because of government. A lot of people are being made really rich from out healthcare system, and I'm not talking about doctors and nurses.

Think this through....how do you fix it?

Single payer systems are the only examples I know of that have significantly lower costs.

How do they do this? I'm not trying to be an ass. Very few people here have thought this through.

Well cutting out all the insurance profits for a start.

 

[Ambivalent1]

Expensive because of the govt

It's certainly not only because of government. A lot of people are being made really rich from out healthcare system, and I'm not talking about doctors and nurses.

Think this through....how do you fix it?

Single payer systems are the only examples I know of that have significantly lower costs.

How do they do this? I'm not trying to be an ass. Very few people here have thought this through.

Well cutting out all the insurance profits for a start.

80 cents of every dollar goes to claims. 20 cents of every dollar goes to overhead. What overhead?
Buildings.
Employees.
Benefits for the employees.
Insurance (Comp, Liability etc.)
Attorney's Fees.
Re-Insurance.

I can go on.

 

[Brain357]

It's certainly not only because of government. A lot of people are being made really rich from out healthcare system, and I'm not talking about doctors and nurses.

Think this through....how do you fix it?

Single payer systems are the only examples I know of that have significantly lower costs.

How do they do this? I'm not trying to be an ass. Very few people here have thought this through.

Well cutting out all the insurance profits for a start.

80 cents of every dollar goes to claims. 20 cents of every dollar goes to overhead. What overhead?
Buildings.
Employees.
Benefits for the employees.
Insurance (Comp, Liability etc.)
Attorney's Fees.
Re-Insurance.

I can go on.

Hey if you know where all the healthcare money goes please share. It sure isn't going to the doctors and nurses.

 

[Ambivalent1]

Think this through....how do you fix it?

Single payer systems are the only examples I know of that have significantly lower costs.

How do they do this? I'm not trying to be an ass. Very few people here have thought this through.

Well cutting out all the insurance profits for a start.

80 cents of every dollar goes to claims. 20 cents of every dollar goes to overhead. What overhead?
Buildings.
Employees.
Benefits for the employees.
Insurance (Comp, Liability etc.)
Attorney's Fees.
Re-Insurance.

I can go on.

Hey if you know where all the healthcare money goes please share. It sure isn't going to the doctors and nurses.

Stop and think. This will never be solved with if people don't think it all the way through. Trust me, the Pols know exactly what is the reason for the costs. They also know what it will take to control them. It is anathema to our way of life.

 

[Brain357]

Single payer systems are the only examples I know of that have significantly lower costs.

How do they do this? I'm not trying to be an ass. Very few people here have thought this through.

Well cutting out all the insurance profits for a start.

80 cents of every dollar goes to claims. 20 cents of every dollar goes to overhead. What overhead?
Buildings.
Employees.
Benefits for the employees.
Insurance (Comp, Liability etc.)
Attorney's Fees.
Re-Insurance.

I can go on.

Hey if you know where all the healthcare money goes please share. It sure isn't going to the doctors and nurses.

Stop and think. This will never be solved with if people don't think it all the way through. Trust me, the Pols know exactly what is the reason for the costs. They also know what it will take to control them. It is anathema to our way of life.

So you don't know?

 

[Ambivalent1]

How do they do this? I'm not trying to be an ass. Very few people here have thought this through.

Well cutting out all the insurance profits for a start.

80 cents of every dollar goes to claims. 20 cents of every dollar goes to overhead. What overhead?
Buildings.
Employees.
Benefits for the employees.
Insurance (Comp, Liability etc.)
Attorney's Fees.
Re-Insurance.

I can go on.

Hey if you know where all the healthcare money goes please share. It sure isn't going to the doctors and nurses.

Stop and think. This will never be solved with if people don't think it all the way through. Trust me, the Pols know exactly what is the reason for the costs. They also know what it will take to control them. It is anathema to our way of life.

So you don't know?

(sigh) I gave you the opportunity to show you truly cared.

 

[daveman]

Bernie Sanders, Now a Millionaire, Pledges to Release Tax Returns by Monday

Reminded that he is a millionaire, he did not shirk from the description.

“I wrote a best-selling book,” he declared. “If you write a best-selling book, you can be a millionaire, too.”


If you wanna use the NYT as being fake news to disregard it, i understand. They are known for it

Perhaps you need to explain why you believe he is wrong.

Capitalism is rigged in favor of the elite, remember?
In 1974 he advicated for a tax rate of 100 percent over 1m dollars. "Nobody should earn over a million dollars" lol yea, until its the bern that does it.
I find that hilarious.

Is he claiming he should be exempt from the 100% tax?

What's preventing him from donating his income over a million dollars to the government?

Hint: Absolutely nothing.

 

[Brain357]

Bernie Sanders, Now a Millionaire, Pledges to Release Tax Returns by Monday

Reminded that he is a millionaire, he did not shirk from the description.

“I wrote a best-selling book,” he declared. “If you write a best-selling book, you can be a millionaire, too.”


If you wanna use the NYT as being fake news to disregard it, i understand. They are known for it

Perhaps you need to explain why you believe he is wrong.

Capitalism is rigged in favor of the elite, remember?
In 1974 he advicated for a tax rate of 100 percent over 1m dollars. "Nobody should earn over a million dollars" lol yea, until its the bern that does it.
I find that hilarious.

Is he claiming he should be exempt from the 100% tax?

What's preventing him from donating his income over a million dollars to the government?

Hint: Absolutely nothing.

Why would he?

 

[Ambivalent1]

Well cutting out all the insurance profits for a start.

80 cents of every dollar goes to claims. 20 cents of every dollar goes to overhead. What overhead?
Buildings.
Employees.
Benefits for the employees.
Insurance (Comp, Liability etc.)
Attorney's Fees.
Re-Insurance.

I can go on.

Hey if you know where all the healthcare money goes please share. It sure isn't going to the doctors and nurses.

Stop and think. This will never be solved with if people don't think it all the way through. Trust me, the Pols know exactly what is the reason for the costs. They also know what it will take to control them. It is anathema to our way of life.

So you don't know?

(sigh) I gave you the opportunity to show you truly cared.

You've shown it's political for you.
I knew that but I gave you the opportunity anyway.